A great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown

posted at 5:00 pm on September 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Sometimes the greatest blame comes from great praise when viewed in hindsight.  The Los Angeles Times proves that with an article from 1999 heaping praise on the very people most responsible for the credit-market meltdown.  Ronald Brownstein lauded the Clinton administration for boosting minority ownership by forcing lenders to offer better terms to marginally-qualified borrowers — and noted the financial creativity from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as a crucial component of Bill Clinton’s efforts.  It also demonstrates why Congress mandated the failure of the lending system, and why it has to act to fix it (via Hot Air reader abinitoadinfinitum):

It’s one of the hidden success stories of the Clinton era. In the great housing boom of the 1990s, black and Latino homeownership has surged to the highest level ever recorded. The number of African Americans owning their own home is now increasing nearly three times as fast as the number of whites; the number of Latino homeowners is growing nearly five times as fast as that of whites.

These numbers are dramatic enough to deserve more detail. When President Clinton took office in 1993, 42% of African Americans and 39% of Latinos owned their own home. By this spring, those figures had jumped to 46.9% of blacks and 46.2% of Latinos.

Most people would agree that higher home-ownership rates are a positive sign in any community.  They indicate investment in a community and commitment as well.  Property owners have more of a stake in their cities and towns, and also typically support property rights in general.

But how was this accomplished?  Here’s where that praise turns to condemnation (emphases mine):

Under Clinton, bank regulators have breathed the first real life into enforcement of the Community Reinvestment Act, a 20-year-old statute meant to combat “redlining” by requiring banks to serve their low-income communities. The administration also has sent a clear message by stiffening enforcement of the fair housing and fair lending laws. The bottom line: Between 1993 and 1997, home loans grew by 72% to blacks and by 45% to Latinos, far faster than the total growth rate.

Requiring banks to serve their low-income communities.  That’s shorthand for taking on more risk and lowering what had been standard prerequisites for purchasing homes.  Normally, lenders would have demanded at least 10% down, and preferred 20%, and demonstration of stable income, of which the mortgage payments would not exceed 30%.  Under threat of prosecution for bigotry, lenders had to start taking less-qualified borrowers as clients.

But the government had a way for them to spread that risk throughout the investment community:

Lenders also have opened the door wider to minorities because of new initiatives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–the giant federally chartered corporations that play critical, if obscure, roles in the home finance system. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy mortgages from lenders and bundle them into securities; that provides lenders the funds to lend more.

In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and creative in stimulating minority gains. It has aimed extensive advertising campaigns at minorities that explain how to buy a home and opened three dozen local offices to encourage lenders to serve these markets. Most importantly, Fannie Mae has agreed to buy more loans with very low down payments–or with mortgage payments that represent an unusually high percentage of a buyer’s income. That’s made banks willing to lend to lower-income families they once might have rejected.

Got that?  Congress told the two government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, to buy up the paper and transform these marginally-qualified loans into what’s known as mortgage-backed securities (MBS).  The purchase of these loans made them much more attractive to lenders, who rushed to create more of them.  Fannie and Freddie then kept buying the paper and turning them into MBSs and selling them to investors, who assumed that the government would back the GSE securities Congress mandated into existence.

Thanks to this massive intervention in the lending marketplace, what followed was utterly predictable for anyone who had ever completed Econ 101 at a junior college:

  • The massive influx of new home buyers drove up housing prices.
  • The rising prices pushed borrowers and lenders into adjustable-rate mortgages to allow the purchase of homes for no down, on the premise that the rising prices (which reacted to massive new demand) would allow them to refinance before the ARMs adjusted to their maximum, at which point borrowers would refinance with the new-found equity as their down payment to get better rates and lower monthly payments they could afford.
  • Housing prices rose so quickly that builders invested in new houses on a massive scale to produce inventory to meet the demand.
  • As long as prices continued to rise, and as long as the two GSEs kept issuing the MBSs, investors kept buying them — with their government backing.

All of this depended on a steady and significant increase in housing prices — which came to an end late last year.  When prices fell, an entire class of overextended borrowers could no longer refinance their ARMs to get affordable mortgage payments, and they began to default.  As I wrote earlier, it was similar to the margin calls in 1929, only in slower motion.  The bottom fell out of the housing market, and thanks to the massive sale over the previous decade of MBSs based on marginal loans, the collapse didn’t just get limited to the lenders or the borrowers, but investors around the world.

I’ve written this a couple of times, but this LA Times article from 1999 makes the case clearly — and maybe even more credibly, since it praises all of the stupidity and government intervention that created the bubble and the collapse.  Clearly, this was not the fault of a free market out of control.  Congress and the executive created this problem by extorting banks into poorly-considered lending practices under the threat of prosecution as “unfair lenders”.  They compounded that extortion with an artificial mechanism to incentivize lenders by having GSEs buy the paper and resell it, with government imprimatur as its guarantee.

Normally, I’d say let the lenders drown.  Unfortunately, this isn’t completely their fault, and we should have known better.  Not too many of us complained about the rapid escalation of our own equity that came from this housing/lending bubble, and in the end most of us will still benefit from it, if not quite as much as it seemed a year ago.  Three years ago, Alan Greenspan tried to get Congress to act, and only John McCain, Chuck Hagel, John Sununu, and Elizabeth Dole responded — while politicians of both parties made sure to keep the Ponzi scheme in full swing.  And those MBSs were minted at the behest of Congress, the people’s branch of government.  We broke it, and we own it.

Government created this problem, and government will have to provide at least part of the solution.  What we need is a way to make sure that government doesn’t interfere in lending markets again.  We need to eliminate GSEs entirely and let borrowers and lenders find each other in the marketplace.  If government would quit trying to pick winners and losers, we wouldn’t find ourselves in this grave financial crisis.

Update: SeeJaneMom has further comments on this article, although I think the situation is less dire than she does.

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Dammit Ed stop blaming Clinton for this mess.

Bill O’

rockhead on September 25, 2008 at 5:04 PM

As usual the Democrats will slither away completely unscathed. I’m so sick and damned tired of these socialist scumbags getting cover by the willfully ignorant MSM.

McCain HAS to highlight the Dems in this mess.

FiveWays on September 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM

Asshats.

Bishop on September 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM

Maybe MKat can explain this slowly to BO’R.

Spirit of 1776 on September 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Clinton? they same Clinton who can’t say enough nice things about McCain? That Clinton? LOL!

Fletch54 on September 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM

If heads don’t roll because of this, America is absolutely going down the tubes. Barney, Schumer, Dodd; You can run, but you can’t hide.

Star20 on September 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM

So the assclowns that CAUSED the problem are the same ones that are FIXING the problem….

Get the KY out.

HornetSting on September 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Here’s a great IBD link:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=307149667289804

Money quote:

Clinton got the Department of Housing and Urban Development to double-team the issue. That would later prove disastrous.

Clinton’s HUD secretary, Andrew Cuomo, “made a series of decisions between 1997 and 2001 that gave birth to the country’s current crisis,” the liberal Village Voice noted. Among those decisions were changes that let Fannie and Freddie get into subprime loan markets in a big way.

Other rule changes gave Fannie and Freddie extraordinary leverage, allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments, vs. 10% for banks.

Since they could borrow at lower rates than banks due to implicit government guarantees for their debt, the government-sponsored enterprises boomed.

With incentives in place, banks poured billions of dollars of loans into poor communities, often “no doc” and “no income” loans that required no money down and no verification of income.

By 2007, Fannie and Freddie owned or guaranteed nearly half of the $12 trillion U.S. mortgage market — a staggering exposure

No, Clinton and the dems currently working on the bailout had nothing to do with creating the crisis.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Fox keeps running the comments by The Flaming Elmer Fudd (Barney Frankfurtherpants).

I hope to hell McCain runs some ads skewering that fat ass-pirate.

FiveWays on September 25, 2008 at 5:12 PM

Freddie then kept buying the paper and turning them into MBSs and selling them to investors, who assumed that the government would back the GSE securities Congress mandated into existence.

Well, that’s what we are doing right now, aren’t we?

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Uh, Ed, just for our own working knowledge…which party was in power of Congress in 1992?

originalpechanga on September 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM

Ed, that’s the most cogent exegesis of the meltdown that I have read. Well done.

lionheart on September 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Clinton’s HUD secretary, Andrew Cuomo, “made a series of decisions between 1997 and 2001 that gave birth to the country’s current crisis,” the liberal Village Voice noted. Among those decisions were changes that let Fannie and Freddie get into subprime loan markets in a big way.

The same Andrew Cuomo that McCain was praising?

OY-can we PLEASE get him a muzzle and just release Sara’cuda?

HornetSting on September 25, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Requiring banks to serve their low-income communities. That’s shorthand for taking on more risk and lowering what had been standard prerequisites for purchasing homes.

Actually, as Rush pointed out last week, it’s shorthand for saying – give these loans to un-creditworthy oppressed minorities or Attorney General Janet Reno will prosecute you.

Or the poverty pimps will protest in front of your business and accuse you of racism.

And if that’s not enough, just wait for the class action lawsuit from the NAACP.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Uh, Ed, just for our own working knowledge…which party was in power of Congress in 1992?

originalpechanga on September 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM

Who pushed it through and then signed the bill. Research a little more there sparky!

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

which party was in power of Congress in 1992?

Republicans famously took over in 1994

JonPrichard on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

I’m sure there are figures available on the relative number of those original minority loans which have defaulted, although as it picked up steam, all lender classes eventually got into the act. It would be interesting to see if even the original loan attempts were successful over the long haul.

a capella on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Sorry, but this dyed-in-the-wool, conservative Republican, Clinton hater calls bullshit.

This wasn’t caused by a few extra loans a decade ago…. This was caused by idiots lending money to bigger idiots who had no hope of paying it back.

As recently as a year ago.

Trying to blame this on Clinton for helping minorities 10 years ago just makes our side look like idiots.

Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

More details from IBD:

Clinton saw homeownership as a way to open the door for blacks and other minorities to enter the middle class.

Though well-intended, the problem was that Congress was about to change hands, from the Democrats to the Republicans. Rather than submit legislation that the GOP-led Congress was almost sure to reject, Clinton ordered Robert Rubin’s Treasury Department to rewrite the rules in 1995. (emphasis mine)

The rewrite, as City Journal noted back in 2000, “made getting a satisfactory CRA rating harder.” Banks were given strict new numerical quotas and measures for the level of “diversity” in their loan portfolios. Getting a good CRA rating was key for a bank that wanted to expand or merge with another.

Loans started being made on the basis of race, and often little else.

“Bank examiners would use federal home-loan data, broken down by neighborhood, income group and race, to rate banks on performance,” wrote Howard Husock, a scholar at the Manhattan Institute.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:20 PM

If heads don’t roll because of this, America is absolutely going down the tubes. Barney, Schumer, Dodd; You can run, but you can’t hide.

Star20 on September 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM

They’re not trying to hide, they’re getting on TV every chance they get to try and spin/lie their way out of taking any blame.

People like Barney Frank will have to be shown committing murder on live TV before they’ll get voted out of office. If they didn’t boot his sorry ass out after the ‘business’ that was operating in his house..why start now??

Dirty Rotten Bastards…

BigWyo on September 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM

This wasn’t caused by a few extra loans a decade ago…. This was caused by idiots lending money to bigger idiots who had no hope of paying it back.

As recently as a year ago.

Trying to blame this on Clinton for helping minorities 10 years ago just makes our side look like idiots.

Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Failed Econ 101? As long as the market was headed up, there was no problem, it was only when the market began to decline that the music stopped. And, I wouldn’t call $1.5 Trillion in subprime loans ‘a few loans’.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM

The McCain camp needs to hammer home in both advertising and especially during the debates (on the economy) that he tried to do something back in 2005 to stop this mess from happening but the dem controlled congress killed, not the Bush admin or the “rethuglicans.”

BTW-OT here but I have a messge for Ed, Jenn of the Jungle told me to tell you hello!

Liberty or Death on September 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM

It goes back,during the Clinton years,where Janet Rino,told
the banks,that the poor must be allowed to buy homes,with
no jobs or zero income!

Or,Janet Rino would lean,and threaten the banks!

Next Dodd,and Barney had their fingers all over this!

The Republicans wanted oversight,or safeguards,the liberals
said no,and got their way!!!

And now sh#t has hit the fan,and guess what,the Liberal
Democratic Party who made this mess,social engineering,
and they want the American tax payer to pay for their
financial debauchery,while buying votes through the
‘Community Organizing’schemes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Barney Frank and Dodd are still running this operation!

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd,need to resign asap!

canopfor on September 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Thanks, Ed — this is a great summary of what led up to this crisis. Add this to the other post highlighting the FNC story of the administration’s, Greenspan’s and McCain’s raising concerns and it would appear that we have the whole story.

Hot Air rocks!

D2Boston on September 25, 2008 at 5:24 PM

UM>>>>NO ED>>>>THAT LA TIMES WOULD BE VIA ME.

Dammit.

I posted that at just after NOON, Eastern. AND sent you an link.

:::fuming:::

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM

O/T,McCain has left by the side entrance and is leaving in
his car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on September 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM

America’s chickens have come home to roost.

TooTall on September 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM

Sorry, but this dyed-in-the-wool, conservative Republican, Clinton hater calls bullshit. Trying to blame this on Clinton for helping minorities 10 years ago just makes our side look like idiots.
Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Don’t tell me….you’re also a ‘Concerned Christian’, right?

Elroy is calling, Astro, better get back to your kennel.

Bishop on September 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM

I made good money for several years investing in companies that traded MBSs, until selling them a couple of years ago when the housing market got too high for comfort. Smartest (more truthfully, “luckiest”) decision I ever made.

irishspy on September 25, 2008 at 5:27 PM

Impressive report Ed. Thanks for laying it all out for us.

Now back to salvaging a system that was doomed for failure from the start, forced down the throat of lending institutions by touchy-feely Democrats and applauded by the same MSM that is currently bewildered by the catastrophic crash that ended up in our laps.

fogw on September 25, 2008 at 5:27 PM

But I’m just a GIRL. WHat do I know.

Here…somebody steal THIS ONE TOO….

MEMO: Housing and Community Development Act of 1992 Gets a Boost From Jack Reed (D, RI): National Low Income Housing Coalition Rejoices!

I would expect this of ALLAH…but come on ED…..

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Wouldn’t have been cheaper just to buy everybody a house?

Elizabetty on September 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Failed Econ 101? As long as the market was headed up, there was no problem, it was only when the market began to decline that the music stopped. And, I wouldn’t call $1.5 Trillion in subprime loans ‘a few loans’.

Fail common sense 101?

#1) Can you show me any source (other than the numbers pulled out your ass) that these loans a decade ago where worth $1.5 Trillion?

#2) Can you show me any source (other than the numbers pulled out your ass) that these loans a decade ago where paid on fine for a decade then suddenly all went into default at the same time causing this mess?

No, you can’t. Because you’re babbling.

Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM

No, Clinton and the dems currently working on the bailout had nothing to do with creating the crisis.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM

“Nothing to do with creating the crisis” ??

Seriously “Vashta”, are you high? Dodd and B Frank had NOTHING to do with this? Get off the talking points….

Janos Hunyadi on September 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Wouldn’t have been cheaper just to buy everybody a house?

Elizabetty on September 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM

I think we just did.

Dagnar on September 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM

So, I guess Jack Reed is whispering in Barney Frank’s ear that we need to take any bailout profit, and use it to fund his National Low Income Housing Coalition?

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM

“Nothing to do with creating the crisis” ??

Seriously “Vashta”, are you high? Dodd and B Frank had NOTHING to do with this? Get off the talking points….

Janos Hunyadi on September 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Vashta was being sarcastic.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Seriously “Vashta”, are you high? Dodd and B Frank had NOTHING to do with this? Get off the talking points….

Janos Hunyadi on September 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM

I keep forgetting to use the sarc button, or something….

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Y’all will notice MY link for the LA TIMES article over on the ED MORRISEY SHOW THREAD about….3:56

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Don’t tell me….you’re also a ‘Concerned Christian’, right?

nope, bored agnostic.

If you don’t believe I’m as right wing as they come google my name at this site and see my past comments.

Yes, I’m conservative. It’s a philosophy, not a religion. I still have a bit of common sense.

Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM

So, I guess Jack Reed is whispering in Barney Frank’s ear that we need to take any bailout profit, and use it to fund his National Low Income Housing Coalition

?

Lots of men whisper in Barney’s ear…but I think Jack Reed will be pushing harder than most.

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

I hear that “Talking Points” on “The Factor,” tonight, is going to tell us how the cigar smoking right wing nut jobs caused all of this.

Star20 on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Ed and Allah, I’d like to thank you for your efforts to explain this mess. Your ability to make sense out of all of this garbage is why I visit Hot Air multiple times every day. Thanks to you guys I can actually discuss these things without sounding like a blithering idiot.

speed911 on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM

JEEZ, we got it already.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

No.

The problem is not that some people purchased homes with mortgage terms that stressed their income stream. The problem is not that the default rate on home mortgages doubled from 1 percent to 2 percent, or from 2 percent to 4 percent.

The real problem is those mortgages were bundled into derived investments with a presumed cash flow that the purchaser of those bundled mortgages used as collateral to borrow more money. When those derived investment vehicles failed to deliver the predicted income stream the owner attempted to bail out by selling them to other (unsuspecting) investors. That only worked until everyone else learned how unreliable that predicted income stream really was, and then refused to purchase those bundled investments.

That’s when the house of cards, leveraged debt pyramid, fell apart. Now everyone is desperate for cash to retire debt, and pay current obligations, anyone who has cash is reluctant to lend said cash, and the financial market is frozen in place.

What made the collapse so intense is the ‘mark to market’ rule of Sarbanes-Oxley. The owners of those, now unreliable, income streams have to take a paper loss, an accounting markdown, on an income stream that still has some value. This paper loss becomes a real loss when there isn’t enough cash to meet current obligations and the over leverage (debt) forces the owner into bankruptcy.

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Ed:

Good post. You are always so thoughtful. I appreciate you.

Terrye on September 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM

“Pay no attention to this lying right wing blogger!!!!!!”

/Bill O’Reilly

Hawkins1701 on September 25, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Ed said: “The bottom line: Between 1993 and 1997, home loans grew by 72% to blacks and by 45% to Latinos, far faster than the total growth rate.”
Add to this the Bush Administration’s penchant for allowing, no pushing, banks to offer loans to illegal aliens and we have a meltdown. One of our tenants lived in houses owned by two brothers who fled to Mexico when the banks foreclosed on their mortgages. I wonder what the percentage is on that factor in California alone…Well, the housing bubble done burst and I ain’t gonna clean it up, hell no.

Christine on September 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM

So I’ve got a stupid question,you can’t afford
to buy the house,but you do!

Can you use your home,to borrow a cash loan?

And if thats possible,when do the cash loans
come calling for the house you never could
afford to begin with?

Which of course is like,double fraud!!!!!!!!

canopfor on September 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Here’s an example of Janet Reno’s role in this mess.

Note this part of the complaint, in which the defendant paid nearly a million dollars to “settle” the charges of “bias”. (emphasis mine):

In its complaint filed and settled today, the Justice Department said that from 1990 to 1992, Shawmut’s mortgage company had violated the Fair Housing Act and the Equal Credit Opportunity Act by disproportionately denying loans and refinancing applications of black and Hispanic customers. During that time, nearly one in three black and Hispanic applicants was denied credit, while only 13 percent of white applicants were turned away.

The settlement was applauded by some Democrats in Congress, including Senator Donald W. Riegle Jr. of Michigan, head of the Senate Banking Committee, and Representative Joseph P. Kennedy 2d of Massachusetts, chairman of a House banking subcommittee on consumer credit. But some civil rights leaders criticized the agreement for letting Shawmut off easy.

“Most of us would acknowledge that the Justice Department is the key to preventing mortgage discrimination,” said Deepak Bhargava, legislative director of Acorn, a nationwide community group that has fought for equitable treatment of borrowers. “I was somewhat disappointed by the settlement figure, which seems quite low.”

Fewer blacks and hispanics received loans, ergo, bias! Sound business practices based on the ability to pay the loan be damned.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM

#1) Can you show me any source (other than the numbers pulled out your ass) that these loans a decade ago where worth $1.5 Trillion?

#2) Can you show me any source (other than the numbers pulled out your ass) that these loans a decade ago where paid on fine for a decade then suddenly all went into default at the same time causing this mess?

No, you can’t. Because you’re babbling.

Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM

1.

With all the old rules out the window, Fannie and Freddie gobbled up the market. Using extraordinary leverage, they eventually controlled 90% of the secondary market mortgages. Their total portfolio of loans topped $5.4 trillion — half of all U.S. mortgage lending. They borrowed $1.5 trillion from U.S. capital markets with — wink, wink — an “implicit” government guarantee of the debts.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306978378974502

2.

The FBI says that reports of suspicious mortgage activity increased by 10-fold from 2001 through 2007, and rose another 42 percent in the first quarter of 2008. As more and more mortgages have gone bad, researchers have looked into troubled portfolios and found startling rates of deception. BasePoint Analytics, a research firm, has estimated, for instance, that 70 percent of subprime loans that default before they reset (exactly the kind that trouble the market right now) contain some kind of misrepresentation by the borrower, lender or broker, or some combination of the three.

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/09/the_mortgage_mess_began_on_mai.html

Any other stupid questions, or can you do your own research from now on?

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Okay Vashta, the Sarc Tag is a valuable resource, especially as there are several trolls out there who would say just what you said and mean every word

Janos Hunyadi on September 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Hawkins1701: “Pay no attention to this lying right wing blogger!!!!!!” /Bill O’Reilly
As Mama would say: ‘Kiss my grits, Bill!’

Christine on September 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Delicate genius dissed by Hot Air?

Give these guys a break. They do a lot of hard work 7 days a weeks.

You’re embarrasing yourself.

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Thank you, that’s a really good explanation. How do we get out of this mess?

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM

I’m sure there are figures available on the relative number of those original minority loans which have defaulted,

a capella on September 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Don’t hold your breath waiting to see those numbers. They’ll never see the light of day. Just like we’ll never get to know how many of the defaulted loans were made to illegal aliens — although judging from the number of advertisements I saw here in Arizona for loans with “no money down and no Social Security numbers required,” my guess would be that that number is quite high — which is of course why it’ll be kept hidden. We wouldn’t want to further aggravate all the “racists” and “nativists” who are always complaining about how much illegal aliens cost us.

AZCoyote on September 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Any other stupid questions, or can you do your own research from now on?

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM

hey I told him to research first! ;-)

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Woops, I forgot this paragraph:

Facing accusations of lending discrimination for several years, Shawmut has instituted a program to reach out to minority borrowers. It includes an $85 million commitment to below-market rates for low- to moderate-income and minority home buyers and a new review committee that evaluates the potential denials of minority applicants.

Extortion, by any other name.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 5:45 PM

hey I told him to research first! ;-)

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Hey, I told him to research in a post earlier from the post I just posted, which was cross posted before I sent that email to Ed at 12:01 am ET from the west coast… or something.

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 5:46 PM

I remember Bush loving this idea too. What did he call it, “ownership society” or something like that? The idea, as I recall, was that the parasite liberal types would become Republicans once they were invested in their communities by owning a piece of it and had a stake in its well being.

Buddahpundit on September 25, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Dang, I forgot this paragraph too!:

The terms of the settlement reflected the carrot-and-stick approach that the Justice Department expects to take toward lending discrimination. Ms. Reno and the Clinton Administration have generally expressed a strong commitment to combat discriminatory lending practices. Last Wednesday, the Clinton Administration proposed new tests intended to insure that banks end discrimination in their lending in an effort to loosen billions of dollars in potential credit to customers and communities who have been shut out of banks.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Hey, I told him to research in a post earlier from the post I just posted, which was cross posted before I sent that email to Ed at 12:01 am ET from the west coast… or something.

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 5:46 PM

Hey, I called McCain’s camp so we could issue a joint statement on researching at 8:30 this morning.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:48 PM

There’s a bit more to the story.

Because the government kept ratcheting up those affordable housing goals for the GSEs, they had to do something to maintain their earnings for their shareholders (and keep getting their ginormous bonuses) while engaging in more and more lending that was unprofitable.

The first thing Fannie Mae did was steal Countrywide’s automated underwriting system and then require all loans it purchased to be run through its “Desktop Underwriter” system, at $15 a pop. Then Freddie Mac followed with its own AUS. Both of them made big bucks on these systems, at the lenders expense.

Then they started ratcheting up their guarantee fees on lenders. As a former colleague of mine once told me, “here’s a negotiation with Fannie Mae. They give you a number, you roll around screaming on the floor, and then you pay it.” Lenders could not pass along these higher fees to customers because the competition in that market was too strong. Fannie and Freddie basically began appropriating profits that belonged to the lenders.

Then they started striking exclusive deals with lenders. Fannie Mae did the first one with Countrywide in 2002. In fact, I can argue that the entire collapse of the financial system can be traced to the day Fannie Mae signed this deal. They got all of Countrywide’s business (and Angelo Mozilo gave Jim Johnson and Jamie Gorelick very nice mortgages in return), and Countrywide got the benefit of a lower guarantee fee which they were able to pass on to customers and this led to a huge spike in business for Countrywide. Other lenders had to lower their prices to keep up. Some of the banks screamed to OFHEO and Congress about this unfair competition at the time, but there was no response.

Countrywide then decided it wanted to corner the mortgage market and it very nearly did. With Fannie Mae eagerly buying all of its prime loans and its subprime mortgage-backed securities, Countrywide exploded into a gigantic lender.

Mind you, Countrywide was not a bank and was not federally regulated. It had no capital requirements and was not subject to any of the bank regulatory guidance on subprime lending. States were overwhelmed trying to regulate a company its size. Because of its funding advantage from Fannie, it was able to grow exponentially, it started hiring everyone in the industry, and if any new product came out it could underprice everyone to grab market share. Countrywide eventually became the largest subprime lender and the largest originator of subprime ARMs and payment-option ARMs.

As the market slowed down beginning in 2005, Countrywide led a race to the bottom in lending standards to try to keep the money coming in. Other lenders followed ssuit tto try to maintain their own market share (though to their credit, some like Wells Fargo and Bank of America didn’t.)And Fannie kept right on buying its MBS.

I’ve been told that today over 25% of Countrywide’s loans are in default or over 60 days delinquent. (The historical default rate for prime loans is less than 3% and for subprime it is about 7%.) And Fannie Mae owns most of the MBS backed by those loans.

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Nice work Ed!

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Hey, I told him to research in a post earlier from the post I just posted, which was cross posted before I sent that email to Ed at 12:01 am ET from the west coast… or something.

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 5:46 PM

i actually LOL at that one!

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 5:54 PM

No, Clinton and the dems currently working on the bailout had nothing to do with creating the crisis.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM

At the end of that article:

Fannie and Freddie, with their massive loan portfolios stuffed with securitized mortgage-backed paper created from subprime loans, are a failed legacy of the Clinton era.

tru2tx on September 25, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Janet Rino’s role…

Buy Danish on sept 25,2008 at 5:39PM.

Buy Danish: Nice intel work on Rino:)

Now I know why the Liberals
defended Bill,on the Monica
episode!:)

canopfor on September 25, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Buddahpundit on September 25, 2008 at 5:47 PM

You are correct. Michelle Malkin talks about this sad situation in this thread.

I don’t agree that we should kill the bailout, but Bush’s role is maddening in this situation.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 5:56 PM

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Thanks. You always provide good information.

If you know, how was Raines able to avoid criminal prosecution for all the outright fraud that went on at FM under his leadership?

AZCoyote on September 25, 2008 at 5:57 PM

tru2tx on September 25, 2008 at 5:54 PM

No, really, my sarc button on my keyboard is broken. I’ll have it fixed this weekend.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:57 PM

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Interesting … from an insider scoop.

I hope you don’t work there anymore Rockmom.

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Not too many of us complained about the rapid escalation of our own equity that came from this housing/lending bubble,

I’m one of the “not too many”. As this “housing/lending bubble” grew so did my Real Estate taxes. Talk about a windfall profit. What did my local and state government do to deserve that increase in profit?

I am sick and tired of others bad decisions becoming my problem.

Too many people where allowed to purchase homes they could not afford. Yes, I understand the role the government, lenders and the buyers played in this. Yes, I know some will lose their house, possibly a house they should not have purchased in the first place. Damn, when do we start holding people accountable for their actions?

I am sick and tired of others bad decisions becoming my problem.

NO BAILOUT!!!!!

Bogeyfre on September 25, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Thank you, that’s a really good explanation. How do we get out of this mess?

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Thanks for the support.

‘The guy’ on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) called ‘the specialist’ or ‘the market maker’ (it used to be a guy, now it is probably a firm) have the obligation to make a market in the stock he specializes in. That means he balances orders to sell with orders to buy. When there is an imbalance in buy/sell he will accept the trade, by ‘taking the other side’, buy the stock when someone wants to sell, and the reverse. He then hopes to unload that stock at a later time, hopefully at a profit when market sentiment changes. He is allowed to charge a small fee which is the difference between bid and ask.

In the commodity pits there is no market specialist, only a mob of buyers/sellers shouting out orders to buy and sell.

IF (big if there), IF this rescue plan is set up to do nothing more than get people trading those exotic investment derivatives again, that will get markets functioning again. It won’t halt the failures, it won’t speed them either.

THEN, once the market is working again, some regulations on those exotic derivatives and the debt borrowed against them have to be put in place. It is the reason why banks have a limit to how much debt they can have on their books.

Right now, we need the federal government to ‘make a market’ in these derived contracts, to get the market setting prices.

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 5:59 PM

JEEZ, we got it already.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM

You and Mr.Magoo can just go screw yourselves.

And what is with that GAY **eats** thing ANYWAY.

Sorry>>>I have a PMS rage comin’ on so step aside you two MORON NEWBS.

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Right now, we need the federal government to ‘make a market’ in these derived contracts, to get the market setting prices.

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Good analogy

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Nice work Ed!

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Oh man, you are really pushin’ it! ;-)

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 5:59 PM

I just feel like I was watching trading places… but it wasn’t funny.

I am still trying to wrap my brain around what you said. But very informative!

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Sorry>>>I have a PMS rage comin’ on so step aside you two MORON NEWBS.

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM

I had a feeling it had something to do with your “lady’s days.”

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 6:02 PM

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM

hands jane a couple hundred midol and a glass of wine.

Yeah I am there with you… but these are good guys. Trust me… would an Alaskan woman lie to you?

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Jim Geraghty presents his case for the bailout as a bedtime story.

Terrie on September 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Yeah I am there with you… but these are good guys. Trust me… would an Alaskan woman lie to you?

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 6:02 PM

I am sure you are right, but I work VERY HARD at what I do…and I do it from somewhere besides my mom’s basement, like these two cheeto eaters. I predate them, and I resent their hubris.

::thank you for the wine, upinak::: ;)

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM

No, really, my sarc button on my keyboard is broken. I’ll have it fixed this weekend.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:57 PM

ooops… okie dokie :-)

tru2tx on September 25, 2008 at 6:11 PM

If you know, how was Raines able to avoid criminal prosecution for all the outright fraud that went on at FM under his leadership?

AZCoyote on September 25, 2008 at 5:57 PM

I think he gave up about $20 million in bonuses and signed something admitting to the accounting fraud. They never found a smoking gun that Raines personally ordered the accounting shenanigans. But he did sign all the financials.

Raines was such an idiot when the acounting scandal hit – he first tried to get the OFHEO director fired, then he haughtily demanded an SEC review because he said OFHEO did not have the expertise to understand Fannie’s accounting. So the SEC did review, and came to the exact same conclusion that Fannie had cooked its books and vastly overstated earnings. That’s when Raines was finally forced out.

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Oh man, you are really pushin’ it! ;-)

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I just read the comments and I can assure you I did not get the link from seejanemom. Sorry seejanemom?

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Isn’t this pretty much the same thing Obama wants to do to health insurance companies?

MayBee on September 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Good post, thank you both.

The deception, fraud, and the political corruption are compounding problems, making the situation worse.

Then add in the politics with the democrats attempting to gain advantage, and advance their agenda.

Bret Hume, and his reporters on Fox News are reporting that the meeting hasn’t produced an agreement.

I’ve posted in earlier threads that I don’t believe ‘they’ can set aside political partisan loyalties and solve the problem. The democrats are much too focused on gaining an advantage.

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM

seejanemom, I did not get the article from this blog either but he wrote about it at 8:21am.

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 6:20 PM

I’ve posted in earlier threads that I don’t believe ‘they’ can set aside political partisan loyalties and solve the problem. The democrats are much too focused on gaining an advantage.

rockhauler on September 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM

The dems want an advantage, or perhaps are trying to avoid accountability… Maybe McCain going there is a good thing. The one thing McCain has going for himself is meeting in the middle – maybe he can get a compromise we all can live with. Then, he would earn my vote, finally.

Vashta.Nerada on September 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM

I just read the comments and I can assure you I did not get the link from seejanemom. Sorry seejanemom?

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 6:16 PM

I KNOW you didn’t, sugar… ;) ;)

ED IS A BUSY MAN, and a good friend…..

I don’t OWN the news…its just that the BIG BLOGS tend to forget that they were LITTLE once too….and thats hard.

There is so little out there that any one blog can claim as their “own idea”, that when it comes along, it just hurts to have it filched.

No harm, no foul. ;)

(I just didn’t like the newbs nasty comments)

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM

XOXO

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 6:24 PM

seejanemom, I did not get the article from this blog either but he wrote about it at 8:21am.

abinitioadinfinitum on September 25, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Then neither one of us should get the credit, but I sent ED a link in email about 1:00pm eastern. ANd I didn’t get it from him either, I got it from digging in a subscription news service owned by a radio station that I guest on in Northern Virginia. I wll be on again tommorow to explain this to the dumb guys in their trucks listening to the morning show.

See why I am so pissed?

Some of us WORK for our links and get PAID to find them.

Again…no harm..no foul. ;)

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM

rockhauler @ 5:59 PM

If everyone would read your post at 5:59pm I think that they may realize that it’s not as bad as the media makes it out to be. It’s bad but not end of the world bad and if the grownups would just lead on this and the media would get their butts out of the way, we could all settle down and go back to watching some stupid puff piece on the Bill O show.

Vince on September 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Jim Geraghty presents his case for the bailout as a bedtime story.

Terrie on September 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Nice story. I happen to have a house right next to mine that this “bedtime story” could be about. Many of us in the neighborhood have take up the cause of cutting the grass and trimming the bushes etc. The problem is whoever owns the property won’t do it on a regular basis and we can’t find any way to force them to take care of it.

Now enter the government. Good luck with that. In the words of Ronald Reagan:

“The nine scariest words in the English language.
I’m from the government and I’m here to help”

Be afraid very afraid………

Bogeyfre on September 25, 2008 at 6:31 PM

I’ve been told that today over 25% of Countrywide’s loans are in default or over 60 days delinquent. (The historical default rate for prime loans is less than 3% and for subprime it is about 7%.) And Fannie Mae owns most of the MBS backed by those loans.

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Holy Canoli, that’s a lot of delinquent loans! We’re with Countrywide – nothing like finding out your mortgage company is frakked-up.

This has me seriously depressed. It’s going to be bad for this family, bailout or not.

Anna on September 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM

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