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	<title>Comments on: McCain within two in new NBC and LAT polls, huge swing among independents</title>
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		<title>By: NoDonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoDonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that the Republicans REFUSE to question whether Obama is qualified to be President?  

He clearly is not.  No reasonable person has made the case that Obama is qualified to be President.  

Yet they play defense on Palin.  Every question about her qualifications should be immediately met with a question to the so-called &quot;journalists&quot; (i.e. pro bono media for the DNC), what qualifications worthless jackass Obama has?  What has Obama accomplished?  

Then go through what Palin has done.  But if you immediately turn it around and fire back at the media&#039;s candidate, neophyte Obama, they&#039;ll get tired of asking it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the Republicans REFUSE to question whether Obama is qualified to be President?  </p>
<p>He clearly is not.  No reasonable person has made the case that Obama is qualified to be President.  </p>
<p>Yet they play defense on Palin.  Every question about her qualifications should be immediately met with a question to the so-called &#8220;journalists&#8221; (i.e. pro bono media for the DNC), what qualifications worthless jackass Obama has?  What has Obama accomplished?  </p>
<p>Then go through what Palin has done.  But if you immediately turn it around and fire back at the media&#8217;s candidate, neophyte Obama, they&#8217;ll get tired of asking it.</p>
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		<title>By: ManlyRash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManlyRash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bradky on September 24, 2008 at 11:15 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You avoided addressing the scenario I raised. Here it is again: the states that went for Bush in 2004 form a compact and declare their independence from the United States. Assume for this hypothesis that you are president of the Unites States. 

Do you give them your blessing and wave them good-bye? Or do you put on a stove-pipe hat and announce that the Union must be preserved at all costs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bradky on September 24, 2008 at 11:15 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You avoided addressing the scenario I raised. Here it is again: the states that went for Bush in 2004 form a compact and declare their independence from the United States. Assume for this hypothesis that you are president of the Unites States. </p>
<p>Do you give them your blessing and wave them good-bye? Or do you put on a stove-pipe hat and announce that the Union must be preserved at all costs?</p>
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		<title>By: NBC/WSJ: McCain Within 2 Nationally &#124; The American Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBC/WSJ: McCain Within 2 Nationally &#124; The American Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yet more evidence that the polls are simply too unreliable at this point. Support shifts back and forth by the day and there are more than, what, 40 days left? NBC/WSJ has it at Obama 48, McCain 46 with a 3-point margin of error. Independents seem to be making up the ground he&#8217;s lost on the economy. McCain has done a better job wooing independent voters than he did last month. Among registered voters who describe themselves as independent, 34% supported Obama and 49% supported McCain. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yet more evidence that the polls are simply too unreliable at this point. Support shifts back and forth by the day and there are more than, what, 40 days left? NBC/WSJ has it at Obama 48, McCain 46 with a 3-point margin of error. Independents seem to be making up the ground he&#8217;s lost on the economy. McCain has done a better job wooing independent voters than he did last month. Among registered voters who describe themselves as independent, 34% supported Obama and 49% supported McCain. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harpazo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harpazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polls, even ones we like, mean very little, given the huge spoon of salt that has to me ingested with each.

Maybe if the media were actually neutral informers of the public, and if the sample sizes were larger (and they were less frequently done), reported polls might have some relevance.

It&#039;s going to be a battle the whole damn way, esp because Obama&#039;s Chicago machine will do everything in their power to tilt the numbers in his favor.

But it will be less of a battle if McCain destroys Obambi in the debates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polls, even ones we like, mean very little, given the huge spoon of salt that has to me ingested with each.</p>
<p>Maybe if the media were actually neutral informers of the public, and if the sample sizes were larger (and they were less frequently done), reported polls might have some relevance.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a battle the whole damn way, esp because Obama&#8217;s Chicago machine will do everything in their power to tilt the numbers in his favor.</p>
<p>But it will be less of a battle if McCain destroys Obambi in the debates.</p>
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		<title>By: james23</title>
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		<dc:creator>james23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget about the polls, the gulps and the panics.  Its close and will remain so.  the candidate has to deliver in the debates, whenever they happen, and we have to get ourselves, families and friends to the polls.  then be ready for a late night on election night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about the polls, the gulps and the panics.  Its close and will remain so.  the candidate has to deliver in the debates, whenever they happen, and we have to get ourselves, families and friends to the polls.  then be ready for a late night on election night.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;hawkdriver on September 24, 2008 at 8:48 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is a testament to the professionalism of our military that they don&#039;t get caught up in silly things like dreaming up rebellions and civil war. The ultimate in discipline is to continue to press on even when you have doubts as you described.
We survived the Clinton years and the low regard they had for our military. If Obama gets elected they will do the same, I have no doubts.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I question both your authenticity and your grasp of history. 

ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 9:27 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Question all you want - I know what I did and don&#039;t need to provide you a 214 to prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hawkdriver on September 24, 2008 at 8:48 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It is a testament to the professionalism of our military that they don&#8217;t get caught up in silly things like dreaming up rebellions and civil war. The ultimate in discipline is to continue to press on even when you have doubts as you described.<br />
We survived the Clinton years and the low regard they had for our military. If Obama gets elected they will do the same, I have no doubts.</p>
<blockquote><p>I question both your authenticity and your grasp of history. </p>
<p>ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 9:27 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Question all you want &#8211; I know what I did and don&#8217;t need to provide you a 214 to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fortunata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortunata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hawkdriver on September 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM

Some of us knew and watched with hearts in mouths and sleeves. I&#039;m sorry we weren&#039;t able to do a better job of supporting you and your fellow servicemen, but the MSM is stacked as we all know. Never think that weren&#039;t watching and praying, however. Thank you, and we honor your service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hawkdriver on September 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM</p>
<p>Some of us knew and watched with hearts in mouths and sleeves. I&#8217;m sorry we weren&#8217;t able to do a better job of supporting you and your fellow servicemen, but the MSM is stacked as we all know. Never think that weren&#8217;t watching and praying, however. Thank you, and we honor your service.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorvillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorvillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;64% of people polled feel that Biden is prepared to be POTUS?&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, Stand Up Chuck! Oh, God...what am I saying? I&#039;m new at this. 

But, seriously...people just want to know that their leaders know what their talking about. 

I guess none of the respondents to this poll were alive to see FDR on TV back in &#039;29 talking about greedy fat cats...right?

&lt;em&gt;Ready To Lead.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>64% of people polled feel that Biden is prepared to be POTUS?</strong></p>
<p>Well, Stand Up Chuck! Oh, God&#8230;what am I saying? I&#8217;m new at this. </p>
<p>But, seriously&#8230;people just want to know that their leaders know what their talking about. </p>
<p>I guess none of the respondents to this poll were alive to see FDR on TV back in &#8217;29 talking about greedy fat cats&#8230;right?</p>
<p><em>Ready To Lead.</em></p>
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		<title>By: mrsmwp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrsmwp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC &amp; LAT?  I don&#039;t trust anything that they are involved with.  They&#039;re probably just trying to lull us into a false sense of security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBC &amp; LAT?  I don&#8217;t trust anything that they are involved with.  They&#8217;re probably just trying to lull us into a false sense of security.</p>
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		<title>By: ManlyRash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManlyRash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;three decades with the military gives me far more confidence in their professionalism - no one is being enslaved and it is not 1860.
“I don’t like the MSM it is time to revolt and kill my fellow citizens.”
Stanley Tool of the first order you seem to be despite your Doctorate in American History. -Bradky on September 24, 2008 at 8:27 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I question both your authenticity and your grasp of history. 

The rift goes beyond MSM tanking for socialism. Here&#039;s a scenario, General Bradley: the states that went for Bush in 2004 form a compact and declare their independence from the United States. Assume that you, Mr. Military Experience, are president. What do you do? What DO you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>three decades with the military gives me far more confidence in their professionalism &#8211; no one is being enslaved and it is not 1860.<br />
“I don’t like the MSM it is time to revolt and kill my fellow citizens.”<br />
Stanley Tool of the first order you seem to be despite your Doctorate in American History. -Bradky on September 24, 2008 at 8:27 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I question both your authenticity and your grasp of history. </p>
<p>The rift goes beyond MSM tanking for socialism. Here&#8217;s a scenario, General Bradley: the states that went for Bush in 2004 form a compact and declare their independence from the United States. Assume that you, Mr. Military Experience, are president. What do you do? What DO you do?</p>
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		<title>By: ClintACK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClintACK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Zero chance. It would take too many people and if the manipulation was ever revealed, lots of people’s careers would be finished.

All for what?

SteveMG&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wish that were so.

Take a look at: 
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/24/obamas-weight-problem.php

The &quot;weighting&quot; used in the most recent ABC/WaPo poll (the one that shows Obama up by 9%) assumes that Democrats will reach record high turnouts and Republicans will reach record low turnouts.  Most polls are using weightings around +3% for Democrats.  This ABC/WaPo poll gets Obama up by 9% by assuming a +10% advantage for Democrats in turnout and an even larger advantage among leaners.

Hey.  Maybe they&#039;re right that 54% of the voters who show up at the polls in November will be registered Democrats -- it could happen.  But if they have reason to suspect that, that should be the lead.  That would be a huge, huge story.  Instead they bury that ASSUMPTION and lead with the obvious consequence of that assumption: Obama wins big if that happens.

Shenanigans, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Zero chance. It would take too many people and if the manipulation was ever revealed, lots of people’s careers would be finished.</p>
<p>All for what?</p>
<p>SteveMG</p></blockquote>
<p>I wish that were so.</p>
<p>Take a look at:<br />
<a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/24/obamas-weight-problem.php" rel="nofollow">http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/24/obamas-weight-problem.php</a></p>
<p>The &#8220;weighting&#8221; used in the most recent ABC/WaPo poll (the one that shows Obama up by 9%) assumes that Democrats will reach record high turnouts and Republicans will reach record low turnouts.  Most polls are using weightings around +3% for Democrats.  This ABC/WaPo poll gets Obama up by 9% by assuming a +10% advantage for Democrats in turnout and an even larger advantage among leaners.</p>
<p>Hey.  Maybe they&#8217;re right that 54% of the voters who show up at the polls in November will be registered Democrats &#8212; it could happen.  But if they have reason to suspect that, that should be the lead.  That would be a huge, huge story.  Instead they bury that ASSUMPTION and lead with the obvious consequence of that assumption: Obama wins big if that happens.</p>
<p>Shenanigans, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: hawkdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkdriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;three decades with the military gives me far more confidence in their professionalism - no one is being enslaved and it is not 1860.
“I don’t like the MSM it is time to revolt and kill my fellow citizens.”
Stanley Tool of the first order you seem to be despite your Doctorate in American History.

Bradky on September 24, 2008 at 8:27 PM&quot;

My three decades and the last four deployments tells me there is at least a strong sentiment that we&#039;ve been sold down the river. I don&#039;t see anyone doing anything like that either, but ask an active duty guy right here how he feels about liberals, the media and the prospect of Obama, who played political games with this war, being my CINC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;three decades with the military gives me far more confidence in their professionalism &#8211; no one is being enslaved and it is not 1860.<br />
“I don’t like the MSM it is time to revolt and kill my fellow citizens.”<br />
Stanley Tool of the first order you seem to be despite your Doctorate in American History.</p>
<p>Bradky on September 24, 2008 at 8:27 PM&#8221;</p>
<p>My three decades and the last four deployments tells me there is at least a strong sentiment that we&#8217;ve been sold down the river. I don&#8217;t see anyone doing anything like that either, but ask an active duty guy right here how he feels about liberals, the media and the prospect of Obama, who played political games with this war, being my CINC.</p>
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		<title>By: ericdondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericdondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another brand new poll out showing McCain pulling ahead in all-important New Hampshire by 2.  

Race42008.com has it, as do we at Libertarian Republican &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;.  

As much as I like Bob Barr, it looks as though he has dropped dramatically in NH since Palin was picked.  Which indicates Palin was a brillant pick to win over libertarians to the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another brand new poll out showing McCain pulling ahead in all-important New Hampshire by 2.  </p>
<p>Race42008.com has it, as do we at Libertarian Republican <a href="http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">blog</a>.  </p>
<p>As much as I like Bob Barr, it looks as though he has dropped dramatically in NH since Palin was picked.  Which indicates Palin was a brillant pick to win over libertarians to the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not exactly a student of either history or human nature, are you Brad?

ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 7:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

three decades with the military gives me far more confidence in their professionalism - no one is being enslaved and it is not 1860.
&quot;I don&#039;t like the MSM it is time to revolt and kill my fellow citizens.&quot;
Stanley Tool of the first order you seem to be despite your Doctorate in American History.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not exactly a student of either history or human nature, are you Brad?</p>
<p>ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 7:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>three decades with the military gives me far more confidence in their professionalism &#8211; no one is being enslaved and it is not 1860.<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t like the MSM it is time to revolt and kill my fellow citizens.&#8221;<br />
Stanley Tool of the first order you seem to be despite your Doctorate in American History.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuquay Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fuquay Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we analyze a few more polls today? Is it even possible? Lets take a poll on it! I say NO MAS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we analyze a few more polls today? Is it even possible? Lets take a poll on it! I say NO MAS.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone ever thought that Time, WaPo, et al might be cooking the books on their polls? No accusations here, just, you know, like Democrats, asking questions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Zero chance. It would take too many people and if the manipulation was ever revealed, lots of people&#039;s careers would be finished.

All for what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone ever thought that Time, WaPo, et al might be cooking the books on their polls? No accusations here, just, you know, like Democrats, asking questions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Zero chance. It would take too many people and if the manipulation was ever revealed, lots of people&#8217;s careers would be finished.</p>
<p>All for what?</p>
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		<title>By: Fuquay Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fuquay Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP you are on a roll today!!! If I were you, I&#039;d play the lottery (if I beleived in it) or go to Atlantic City. You are really on fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP you are on a roll today!!! If I were you, I&#8217;d play the lottery (if I beleived in it) or go to Atlantic City. You are really on fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;anniekc on September 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Concerned? Yeah, I get that part. What I don&#039;t get is how we on Side Street, (forget the WSJ Main Street hokie), can do anything about it other then hunker down. Whatever Congress decides to do is beyond our control. There won&#039;t be any recalls before whatever passes for a bill is plopped on GWs desk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>anniekc on September 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Concerned? Yeah, I get that part. What I don&#8217;t get is how we on Side Street, (forget the WSJ Main Street hokie), can do anything about it other then hunker down. Whatever Congress decides to do is beyond our control. There won&#8217;t be any recalls before whatever passes for a bill is plopped on GWs desk.</p>
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		<title>By: FiveWays</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiveWays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone ever thought that Time, WaPo, et al might be cooking the books on their polls? No accusations here, just, you know, like Democrats, asking questions.

GarandFan on September 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

uhm.......you can bank on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone ever thought that Time, WaPo, et al might be cooking the books on their polls? No accusations here, just, you know, like Democrats, asking questions.</p>
<p>GarandFan on September 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>uhm&#8230;&#8230;.you can bank on that.</p>
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		<title>By: anniekc</title>
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		<dc:creator>anniekc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I don&#039;t know Limerick, Maybe all of us fighting for a space in line at our respective banks, and then fighting for a place in the bread line?

NOT trying to be ugly, just very concerned-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I don&#8217;t know Limerick, Maybe all of us fighting for a space in line at our respective banks, and then fighting for a place in the bread line?</p>
<p>NOT trying to be ugly, just very concerned-</p>
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		<title>By: hawkdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkdriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trading posts with some folks a couple of weeks ago now and the discussion got a bit animated about the war. Liberals seem to get pretty sensitive when you try to get an answer from them about how they can be so anti-war, anti-Bush and anti-American and still be “In Support of the Troops?” Well the answer is that they can’t. 

I have very dear friends who are Democrats and they’re very fine people. And I come from a fairly liberal family who absolutely idolized John F. Kennedy. But I have long since parted ways with the politics of my parents and couldn’t be a bigger critic of the lefts unpatriotic behavior. I’m passionate and I don’t pull any punches in describing what I see as the overt and in your face actions of liberals that has bolstered the resolve of our enemies. My friends and family ask me constantly what it is that I think extreme liberals have done to earn the right to be called treacherous and seditious. 

I&#039;ve seen things on every deployment I’ve been on that makes me think that the Democratic Party and the MSM had it in for the war and thereby had it in for the military. I was in Iraq when the dems started their debates for the 04 election and no one can tell me the insurgency didn&#039;t pick up after that. They get the news. They see our TV. We have captured intell that showed they followed our politics throughout the war. When Dennis Kucinich stood on a stage during a dem primary debate and said Pres. Bush cooked the war up in Texas and that it was illegal, me and my buddies just looked at each other in the DFAC in Balad Iraq and said OMG, does he want us to lose this thing? Then it was a none-stop who can outdo each other in deriding anything we did there. Abu Grahib and everything else was plastered on the front pages and any time we tried to push our gains or successes in battle to the press, it fell on deaf ears. We told them (the insurgents) to kill us. We told them in those debates and in the press that half of America didn&#039;t think we even had the right to be there and that a smaller percentage of them thought we were criminals. I could go on for a whole blog.

But I&#039;ll share one story with you that is the watershed moment for me. I was flying combat camera crews over Kirkuk and Erbel while Iraqis voted on the national referendum for their constitution. They said in the press that there would be violence and we were supposed to let these guys record what might happen in the cities to help understand enemy TTPs. The whole day there was nothing any of our crews saw but Iraqis pointing their purple fingers at our aircraft to say “Look at me. I voted on our constitution.“ Despite the heavy news coverage wailing about the carnage that would ensue, they went out in numbers Americans never dreamed of. My crew chiefs ended up being very excited and we were all anxious to get back to Anaconda to see the news. There was almost nothing. Less the next day. We as much told the Iraqi people in those days after the referendum we didn’t care about them. It was a milestone the press wouldn’t let the Bush Administration put in the plus column. Just one of many.
Liberal America wants us to lose to prove their point. So like I said, to a great extent, I blame them.”

John Murtha and John Kerry have both gone on the record to say our tactics in Iraq were in so many words, cruel or criminal. John Murtha convicted marines from Haditha almost before they even had their rights read to them. And by Kerry characterizing our looking for IED makers by night raid as terroristic,  (And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the--of--the historical customs, religious customs. Whether you like it or not... ) I guess he prefers the sight of a burning US vehicle with the occupants strewn on MSR Tampa. 

How long would it take for someone to list the endless parade of negative stories from just the New York Times about we in the military, the war in general and our country as a whole. I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say they and a good majority of liberal America sided with our enemies while we were on the field of battle.

I can guarantee we won’t forget. 

Sorry so long. Keep the faith and don&#039;t let them win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trading posts with some folks a couple of weeks ago now and the discussion got a bit animated about the war. Liberals seem to get pretty sensitive when you try to get an answer from them about how they can be so anti-war, anti-Bush and anti-American and still be “In Support of the Troops?” Well the answer is that they can’t. </p>
<p>I have very dear friends who are Democrats and they’re very fine people. And I come from a fairly liberal family who absolutely idolized John F. Kennedy. But I have long since parted ways with the politics of my parents and couldn’t be a bigger critic of the lefts unpatriotic behavior. I’m passionate and I don’t pull any punches in describing what I see as the overt and in your face actions of liberals that has bolstered the resolve of our enemies. My friends and family ask me constantly what it is that I think extreme liberals have done to earn the right to be called treacherous and seditious. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen things on every deployment I’ve been on that makes me think that the Democratic Party and the MSM had it in for the war and thereby had it in for the military. I was in Iraq when the dems started their debates for the 04 election and no one can tell me the insurgency didn&#8217;t pick up after that. They get the news. They see our TV. We have captured intell that showed they followed our politics throughout the war. When Dennis Kucinich stood on a stage during a dem primary debate and said Pres. Bush cooked the war up in Texas and that it was illegal, me and my buddies just looked at each other in the DFAC in Balad Iraq and said OMG, does he want us to lose this thing? Then it was a none-stop who can outdo each other in deriding anything we did there. Abu Grahib and everything else was plastered on the front pages and any time we tried to push our gains or successes in battle to the press, it fell on deaf ears. We told them (the insurgents) to kill us. We told them in those debates and in the press that half of America didn&#8217;t think we even had the right to be there and that a smaller percentage of them thought we were criminals. I could go on for a whole blog.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll share one story with you that is the watershed moment for me. I was flying combat camera crews over Kirkuk and Erbel while Iraqis voted on the national referendum for their constitution. They said in the press that there would be violence and we were supposed to let these guys record what might happen in the cities to help understand enemy TTPs. The whole day there was nothing any of our crews saw but Iraqis pointing their purple fingers at our aircraft to say “Look at me. I voted on our constitution.“ Despite the heavy news coverage wailing about the carnage that would ensue, they went out in numbers Americans never dreamed of. My crew chiefs ended up being very excited and we were all anxious to get back to Anaconda to see the news. There was almost nothing. Less the next day. We as much told the Iraqi people in those days after the referendum we didn’t care about them. It was a milestone the press wouldn’t let the Bush Administration put in the plus column. Just one of many.<br />
Liberal America wants us to lose to prove their point. So like I said, to a great extent, I blame them.”</p>
<p>John Murtha and John Kerry have both gone on the record to say our tactics in Iraq were in so many words, cruel or criminal. John Murtha convicted marines from Haditha almost before they even had their rights read to them. And by Kerry characterizing our looking for IED makers by night raid as terroristic,  (And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the&#8211;of&#8211;the historical customs, religious customs. Whether you like it or not&#8230; ) I guess he prefers the sight of a burning US vehicle with the occupants strewn on MSR Tampa. </p>
<p>How long would it take for someone to list the endless parade of negative stories from just the New York Times about we in the military, the war in general and our country as a whole. I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say they and a good majority of liberal America sided with our enemies while we were on the field of battle.</p>
<p>I can guarantee we won’t forget. </p>
<p>Sorry so long. Keep the faith and don&#8217;t let them win!</p>
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		<title>By: m064404</title>
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		<dc:creator>m064404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP, what&#039;s with the obsession with polls?  You&#039;re not a pollster, are you?</description>
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		<title>By: anniekc</title>
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		<dc:creator>anniekc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PA was part of my territory for all of 2000-2006, I have a hard time believing it&#039;s going to go blue; Those people are more &quot;Kansas&quot; than Kansas is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PA was part of my territory for all of 2000-2006, I have a hard time believing it&#8217;s going to go blue; Those people are more &#8220;Kansas&#8221; than Kansas is.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone ever thought that Time, WaPo, et al might be cooking the books on their polls?  No accusations here, just, you know, like Democrats, asking questions.

The only poll that counts is the one taken on Nov 4th.

The MSM hasn&#039;t found a way to screw with those vote counts.  Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone ever thought that Time, WaPo, et al might be cooking the books on their polls?  No accusations here, just, you know, like Democrats, asking questions.</p>
<p>The only poll that counts is the one taken on Nov 4th.</p>
<p>The MSM hasn&#8217;t found a way to screw with those vote counts.  Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. The war is lost.

2. The war is won.

3. ObamaSuperStar

4. Denver

5. Palin

6. St. Paul

7. PalinSuperStar

8. Billionaire Welfare

How many damn ups and down does this roller coaster have left in it? 

What is next, a salvo of Scuds in the Straits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The war is lost.</p>
<p>2. The war is won.</p>
<p>3. ObamaSuperStar</p>
<p>4. Denver</p>
<p>5. Palin</p>
<p>6. St. Paul</p>
<p>7. PalinSuperStar</p>
<p>8. Billionaire Welfare</p>
<p>How many damn ups and down does this roller coaster have left in it? </p>
<p>What is next, a salvo of Scuds in the Straits?</p>
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