Fox News poll: Obama 45, McCain 39, nine-point swing since convention
posted at 2:55 pm on September 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Hard to fault the sample on this one when the party split’s precisely the same as it was for their last poll. Needless to say, it’s the economy, stupid, although McCain appears to have done some damage to himself too based on this trend:
At 47/36, down from 54/27 after the convention, Palin’s net favorables are now the lowest of the four candidates. A separate poll coming from NBC tonight will supposedly show that only 40 percent think she’s qualified to be president versus 49 percent who think she isn’t, although a majority of Fox News respondents say they’re at least somewhat comfortable with her as VP. If you believe Gallup, contra the reports after the convention of massive swings toward McCain among white women, she hasn’t done much to earn him extra votes within that demographic.
Oh, here’s some more good news. Looks like race relations are headed for a downturn if The One loses:
The polls are almost uniformly bad today and in some cases brutal, but rather than bludgeon you with horrible news I’ll point you to one that’s merely provocative yet discouraging. Behold:
Yes, yes, I know, the left perennially (quadrennially?) whines that pollsters underestimate Democratic support because they’re stuck sampling landline voters, not the cell-phone-only generation that tends to skew left. Historically the complaint’s been overblown because pollsters compensate for the missing cell-phone sample by adding more weight to young voters. The problem with doing that this year, apparently, is that young cell-phoners lean more heavily towards Obama than young landliners do, which means the pollsters might not be weighting the latter enough. Follow the link to the Pew survey and focus on the second table. We’re talking about a 10-point spread, which doesn’t feel like much given how relatively few cell-phone-only voters there are but in a close election might be decisive. Assuming, that is, that The One can get them to turn out.
Exit question good news: Gallup is unchanged from yesterday, and NPR’s survey of 14 battleground states actually has McCain up by two, although that’s within the margin of error.
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McCain wants Friday’s debate postponed and has suspended his campaign. Wow.
amerpundit on September 24, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Allah, come on, man-where’s the “Gulp” at, homey?
hippie_chucker on September 24, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Gulp.
Fox is so liberal, it’s disgusting.
(you see, I’ve figured it out. The left claims right leaning bias in clearly liberal MSM so as to provide cover for the MSM when they say, hey, both the left and the right think we’re biased, we must be doing something right. Well, time for the counterattack. Just start spamming that Fox is a liberal network.)
VolMagic on September 24, 2008 at 2:58 PM
The Bradley effect is in play.
420sniper on September 24, 2008 at 2:59 PM
That’s what happens when you keep her sequestered and thus allow the media to create the narrative on her.
Dudley Smith on September 24, 2008 at 3:00 PM
McCain suspending his campaign makes my stomach turn.
I want my money back.
p0s3r on September 24, 2008 at 3:00 PM
And tomorrow, it will be 5 points……
UGH! Will it ever end?
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM
If people are struggling to make ends meet, what makes you think they’re going to be able to get off work and vote?
I still trust the Rasmussen polls more than anything
Sir Andrew on September 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Wow, McCain suspending campaign. This is not a good choice IMHO. I hope I’m wrong.
carbon_footprint on September 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Good Lord. Well, I suspect the Despair-O-Meter has just stopped at Zero.
RushBaby on September 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM
I’m with you…just lost lunch.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:02 PM
So McCain is now going to play “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”. LOL!
Fletch54 on September 24, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Vice presidential candidates don’t usually factor in getting the presidential candidate elected. See Dan Quail.
Unless they are mentally ill democrats who undergo shock therapy. See Eagleton.
420sniper on September 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Drudge is reporting (big red light) McCain wants to delay the debate to focus on economy. That is just dumb.
Why delay something that will only help his campaign. Just dumb and not a good sign. I hope this is a mistake.
McCain could blow this.
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Palin still has a 54% favourables at Rasmussen
lodge on September 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Hmm…I just have to keep telling myself – Self, when the Republican primaries started you thought McCain didn’t have a chance in hell……
Marcus on September 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Count on it, Jelly.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM
McCain wants Obama to join him and suspend their campaigns to deal with the financial issue. Pure politics, not a problem in the home camp.
Patrick S on September 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM
The debate will still go ahead, and maybe not on a Friday night.
lodge on September 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Especially since voting has already begun in certain states via absentee ballots.
Ugh.
dmarie on September 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Polls are manipulated to persuade this far out. The upswing from the R convention was probably MUCH greater than the pollsters reported, plus it added the appearance of authenticity to their numbers overall. Since pollsters have to show how correct they are historically, they are only accurate 2-3 weeks before the election. If we see these numbers past Oct 15, then I’ll worry. Until then, they’re meaningless.
JustTruth101 on September 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Drudge is reporting what? McCain wants to stop the campaign? Man, what happened to his camp?
Sure, Obama might agree–he’d probably chortle at the idea. “You mean I can stop spending money, McCain stops running ads, and my surrogates in the MSM do my work for me? Am I having a wet dream or what?”
Vanceone on September 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Its simple to see what is happening. The Democrats gorund game has started to kick into gear.
I warned the RNC for over a year they would get hammered and they laughed and ignored it. I swear I have never meet such a clueless bunch in my life.
They bet the farm on their “Email” lists and its getting them killed.
If they had listen to me months ago this election wouldnt be going bad. The RNC needs a through cleaning.
The GOP is still trying to win with dinosaur tactics and they are getting creamed.
William Amos on September 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM
McCain delaying the debates,,, this is such a stupid move! What is he thinking??!!
Suddenly no longer feeling snappy about this campaign!
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Kirk: “Clear the bridge.”
McCoy: “Jim, what the h*** kind of strategy is this?!”
Skywise on September 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
In suspending his campaign, he’s only doing what multiple people on this site have encouraged him to do – show some leadership on the financial issue.
This isn’t a suspension of the campaign – it’s just as political as any campaign rally and depending on how it goes, more important.
Slublog on September 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Oh God…
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9632/obamasuicide2rx3.jpg
toliver on September 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
i think what hurt mccain is that stupid lipstick on a pig debacle. mccain should have just let it go. obama didnt really call her a pig.
venicesurfer on September 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
The MSM cannot ignore McCain’s actions. And because Oslime-a is a senator and candidate also, they cannot fail to report how he reacts to this.
This is a good power play on McCain’s part and I wonder if we can say….
ROVE! You magnificent bastard!!!!
csdeven on September 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
McCain suspending his campaign to work on the bailout in D.C.-
IS A BRILLIANT POLITICAL MOVE.
Obama has no choice but to follow McCain’s lead- or to keep on campaigning to the accussation of “politics as usual”.
BRILLIANT MAVERICK MOVE!
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
DUDE. He (and I mean surrogates) spends the whole summer calling Obama a chicken for not wanting the town hall debates, and now wants to postpone the first debate? Is it because he’s a senator and wants to “work” this bailout thing out?
Weight of Glory on September 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM
I could be way off the mark but I think McCain suspending is the correct way to go. It shows leadership, he has voiced concern about this issue since 2005 and now has an opportunity to show all of America his leadership qualities. Besides, he is still a senator and this is one of the biggest issues in our life time.
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Wait he’s talking about it right now.
Weight of Glory on September 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Obama will love to stop the debates, for crying out loud!!
How stupid stupid stupid is this!!??!!??
McCain is being McCain!!!
It’s over!
President Obama!
I guess I am taking this a little hard!
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Suspending his campaign? For what? For some reason he continues to believe that his pandering, his “bipartisanship”, will earn him something with the public and the media. News flash…IT DOESN’T. This is just…dumb, frankly, and makes him look like a fool who is flailing about.
Ugh…
changer1701 on September 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Right. And Clinton didn’t have sexual relations with Monica.
Gregor on September 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM
President Obama
jp on September 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Indeed. I think we can scrap today’s polls.
forest on September 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM
With all due respect, I think you are. McCain once said he’d rather lose an election than win a war. His campaign suspension says he’d rather try to save the economy than promote his candidacy.
Obama talks, McCain takes action. (Y’know… nothing stopped Obama from doing this first… except that “setting politics aside” probably never even occurred to him… )
Gilda on September 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Okay. I get it now.
Weight of Glory on September 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Michelle is reporting it too.
As for this polling and the crisis, I really can’t tell you how bummed I’m feeling.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on September 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM
It’s one of two things:
Either Schmidt has something extraordinary up his sleeve
or
We’re f**ked and this campaign is dead in the water.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM
McCain had the One on the ropes….a debate, no teleprompter..
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM
GAME OVER, MAN!! GAME OVER!!
Bad choices biting republicans on the ass.
Roger Waters on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Might work… but I don’t think the MSM will spin it in his favor.
Skywise on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
*SMACK*
Now get your ass out of that mood Manly!
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Wouldn’t make a difference anyway. The questions will be rigged and Obama will have known what they are beforehand.
Gregor on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Yeah…he’d rather lose the election than win the war….
He has made that clear everytime he opens his mouth.
John-the democrats are NOT YOUR FRIENDS!
PALIN/mccain 08
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
He just did. Sends a clear message which the media will be happy to exploit.
a capella on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Let the media play…
Where’s John?
oh. he’s on the floor of the senate debating the financial bail out package.
Where’s Obie Hussein?
Hey he’s out campaigning!
Let the American people decide which is more important.
420sniper on September 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
People are getting too worked up over this poll. Do you not think more bombs are going to be dropped before the election? We are no where near the point of no return.
johnt on September 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Go back to your hole. The adults are talking now.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Another possible ploy here is to nudge the debates closer to Election Day. If he’s confident he’s going to hand Obama his ass in the debates, the nearer to Nov. 4th the better.
Patrick S on September 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM
It shows leadership,
Leadership would be to show America how screwed it would be if Obama got elected President!!
This is not leadership!!
It could also appear that McCain is afraid of the debates at a time when the stupid Dems are blaming Republicans for this mess!!!
America needs to see that Obama and the Dems are resposnible!!! But no,, McCain wants to put aside what will help him get elected,, THE DEBATES!!!,, and show bipartisinship by reaching across the isle and saying eh would RATHER FREAKIN LOSE THE CAMPAIGN THAN APPEAR TO DISAGREE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED THE WHOLE FINANCIAL MESS!!!!!
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Thanks for taking out the trash, friend.
Patrick S on September 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM
That sounds familiar, Gregor…uh, something said about “above my pay grade” and the MSM accusing MCCain of getting the questions beforehand. Don’t play their games.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Uhm…..it sends a clear message to the public.
And the folks are going to like this!
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Just what I was thinking.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Have a bran muffin, man. It’ll all work out.
Patrick S on September 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM
1. If The Holey One doesn’t agree, McCain’s theme of Country First is amplified (and don’t think there won’t be one helluva lot of ads to that fact being written as we speak).
2. This also traps Joe Hairplugs because of his spot in the Senate (D-MBNA/Bank of America). Guess who’s still available for campaigning? Sarahcuda. Go, girl! Get her out there hard!!!
My initial reaction was WTF?
As I write this, Hannity quotes an Obama source saying “no reason to suspend this campaign.”
Boom!
Obama puts his campaign ahead of the country.
Zap!
Watch for ads by tomorrow.
either orr on September 24, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Obama campaign source…no dice, they are not going to suspend according to CNN.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:15 PM
STUPID STUPID MOVE BARRY!
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:16 PM
This is the Maverick that will win.
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM
We are no where near the point of no return
Polls are showing Obama may be leading higher,, McCain still has some of the big Mo,, the debates are just a few days away and would help show America how inept Obama is!!
You just do not stop something like this!!
It makes no sense!!
What,, is American Idol or Lost premiering again that night?? What??!! This is stupid!!!
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM
John McCain asked the Presidential Debate Commission on Wednesday to postpone Friday’s scheduled debate with Barack Obama so that he can work on the financial crisis bailout plan now on Capitol Hill.
The Arizona Republican senator said he will suspend his presidential campaign on Thursday to return to Washington to help with bailout negotiations. He urged Obama to do the same.
This is McCain putting country first people this is the best thing he can do.
tee866 on September 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Settle down, Gomer Pyle. All I did was lay out the alternatives and those are the alternatives, like it or not. My hunch is that Maverick is maneuvering and in the process of setting a trap. And if history has taught us anything, it has taught us that Bambi will walk right into it.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM
McCain is right. Being Senators is actually much more important than any debate right now.
People are getting super angry, and both candidates would look like jerks finger pointing at each other at a debate right now. McCain definitely made the right decision, and he looks good doing it first because Obama will have to play follow the leader right now.
forest on September 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM
I can’t wait until November so all these goofy polls will be behind us. It’s the big poll that counts.
Maxx on September 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Well, maybe Obama can make socialism and appeasement work…………F%$K IT! We`re done for.
Nap time.
ThePrez on September 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Just as I predicted Bambi would. Now smack yourself.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I think it’s a smooth move on his part. Besides that, it was what the people of Arizona elected him to do.
Team Obama is probably in WTF! mode right now. McCain is showing leadership. What’s Barry doing, besides waiting for McCain to make a decision on the bailout?
GarandFan on September 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM
We need to stop watching the polls. Remember, Gore was supposed to win and Kerry was a shoe-in and the MSM went so far as to declare him the winner. All that matters is election day- if ACORN doesn’t steal it.
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Announcer:
I’m either orr and I approve this message.
either orr on September 24, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Here’s the Drudge Report write-up. I can’t imagine why in a million years McCain would do this unless Bush thinks McCain’s vote is needed to pass the bailout.
MCCAIN SUSPENDS CAMPAIGN TO FOCUS ON ECONOMY; WANTS DEBATE DELAY
Wed Sept 24 2008 14:58:02 ET
MCCAIN: America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.
Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns.This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward.I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.
It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’ proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.
Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.
I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.
We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved.I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.
I am confident that before the markets open on Monday we can achieve consensus on legislation that will stabilize our financial markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners, and earn the confidence of the American people. All we must do to achieve this is temporarily set politics aside, and I am committed to doing so.
Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. We must show that kind of patriotism now. Americans across our country lament the fact that partisan divisions in Washington have prevented us from addressing our national challenges. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.
Developing…
jim m on September 24, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Obama campaign source…no dice, they are not going to suspend according to CNN.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008
God bless you Obama! Stand up! Stand up there Obama! Oh God,, what have I done,, stand up Republicans,, all of you,, stand up for Obama!!!
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Smart move by McCain to postpone the campaign, and morally the correct thing to do. Get your plan out there and lobby Congress to DO IT RIGHT, so it doesn’t happen again. The current version just hides it for a little longer and then we get hammered worse in a couple years.
However, he needs to get Palin out there more and practicing up with the media. Let Sarah get some more experience. People really like her when she talks.
Sapwolf on September 24, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Why should Obama suspend? Maybe he wants to win the election. McCain sees his numbers go down a point a day as I predicted. McCain has to pretend that he would rather “lose an election than to not study the financial crisis that I know nothing about”.
HA HA HA HA!!!
The good ship McCain is going down. The economy is hurting and McCain is looking at Palin saying “ooops, I guess that pander didnt work out too well after all” and “HEY MEDIA PEOPLE, DONT ASK HER ANY QUESTIONS!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK SHE IS DOING, PRETENDING TO BE QUALIFIED TO BE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD OR SOMETHING??”
Sad. Funny as hell. and sad.
Roger Waters on September 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Good God, get a hold of yourself. Take a pill and a nap.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Now, they are doing a joint announcement with Obama…ugh..fast flip.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM
*sniff* troll breath. Ugh.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM
The more I think about it, the more I like it.
carbon_footprint on September 24, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Obama will be making a statement in a few minutes I think its going to be saying he’s going back to Washington too, makes him look like a follower not a leader got to hand it to McCain he hit it right out of the park on this move.
tee866 on September 24, 2008 at 3:22 PM
who let the troll in- someone get the spray!
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:23 PM
No surprise there. The plot thickens.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Watch the friendly fire there- Manly
…we share the same uniform.
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:23 PM
COUNTRY FIRST!!!
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:24 PM
BINGO. McCain seized the high ground and now he can say “I’m delighted that Mr. Bama has decided to suspend his campaign and follow me in DC.”
This is delicious on several levels. Schmidt is playing Bambi like a Strad.
ManlyRash on September 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Guys, would you all just chill out. He is ‘postponing’ the campaign/debate, not doing away with it.
He needs to step into the vacuum of leadership and show he can provide it for the economy too.
COUNTRY FIRST!
Sapwolf on September 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM
OMG I’ve got popcorn ready to go this could be a long night people get to the store and get your provisions.
tee866 on September 24, 2008 at 3:28 PM
McC should have just done it and not invited the big O to come along. I wonder how long it would have been before O went to the capital.
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:28 PM
This thread is hilarious. Watching folks yank their skirts over their heads and run screaming down the street…
Priceless.
McC wasn’t anywhere near my top choice, but I gotta respect the fighter pilot instincts he’s got. Obambi willingly jumps into those gunsights over and over again.
Man up, you guys.
techno_barbarian on September 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Obama is willing to return to Washington “if it would be helpful.” But Obama intends to debate on Friday, an official said.
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Who the hell is he going to debate?
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM
I’ll bet you all-
that Barry changes his mind on his initial response.
In…..3….2…..1….
FiveWays on September 24, 2008 at 3:31 PM
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Himself? that way he’s sure to win.
tee866 on September 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM
He has to- I don’t see how he can’t….McC will get what he wants and BHO will try to horn in.
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM
You honestly believe Obama is anything more than a poser?
The man’s never fun so much as a girl scout troop.
For all your screaming about Freddie and Fannie- remember it’s the exact mentality of people like Obama who create such disasters.
And you clowns still have to tell all of us where you’re getting the $57 trillion for SS and Medicare.
Can’t wait to see what free health care looks like.
Chuck Schick on September 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM
tee866 on September 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM
You got that right!
kareyk on September 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM
typo
Chuck Schick on September 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I’ve never read such pussy comments in my life.
You HA’ers need to get a hold of yourself.
McCain is making the right move. He was falling behind due to the economy and financial uncertainty.
Now he FINALLY steps up to show leadership on the economy and do what’s right, and you criticize him.
The debate will happen, only it will be delayed til after they hammer out a bill that will succeed in passing.
His recent dip in the poles would get worse and even if he won the debate on foreign policy, that would be forgotten by the third debate on the economy.
McCain just may win it with the third dabate on the economy when he stresses how he put COUNTRY FIRST in the bailout.
Sapwolf on September 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM
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