Breaking: McCain suspends campaign to deal with economy, calls for debate to be postponed; Update: Obama wants debate to go on; Update: Don’t come back, Reid tells McCain
posted at 3:04 pm on September 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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John McCain asked the Presidential Debate Commission on Wednesday to postpone Friday’s scheduled debate with Barack Obama so that he can work on the financial crisis bailout plan now on Capitol Hill.
The Arizona Republican senator said he will suspend his presidential campaign on Thursday to return to Washington to help with bailout negotiations. He urged Obama to do the same.
He’s trying to siphon off some of Obama’s strength with voters on the economy, obviously, but er … at the expense of a debate on foreign policy that would have played to his own strength? What does McCain gain by steering the campaign towards an issue for which the public blames his party?
Update: Is there any way The One can say, “No, let’s debate”?
Update: Slublog suggests this is Maverick’s way of dragging Obama and Biden back to D.C. while keeping Palin out on the trail. Eh. Given the media’s disposition towards her, how do you think they’ll cover her stumping for votes amid this dire national crisis?
Update: I guess McCain figures he’s at enough of a disadvantage on the economy that if he doesn’t do something bold to cut into Obama’s lead, he’ll disintegrate by election day. Meanwhile, Barry O says … the debate is still on:
“I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me,” McCain planned to say in New York City, according to advance excerpts released by his campaign. “I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.”
However a senior Obama campaign official said Obama “intends to debate. The debate is on.”…
Obama is willing to return to Washington “if it would be helpful.” But Obama intends to debate on Friday, an official said.
Update: The Weekly World News blows the lid off the secret reason for McCain’s ploy.
Update: Team Maverick’s in the process of yanking its ads as we speak. I think this is actually an opportunity for Obama to show some stones. Call what McCain’s doing a stunt and reiterate the need to debate on grounds that both sides can spare a few hours for a moment of national import in which the public is extremely interested. It could backfire, or it could destroy the political benefit McCain’s getting out of this.
Update: Ole Miss says it’s been told by the debate commission that for the moment it’s full speed ahead.
Update: Ah, the search for a victim ends with Ole Miss claiming it’ll be “devastated” if McCain pulls out now:
Andrew Mullins, special assistant to university Chancellor Robert Khayat, told ABC News that the Ole Miss campus has been transformed to accommodate the candidates and the press. Road blocks are in place on campus and in the community and the debate set for the candidates has already been constructed. He said the university has spent roughly $5.5 million getting ready for the debate…
“It’s huge. You cannot just say that you’re not going to do this thing,” Mullins said. “I don’t have any idea whether we do the debate” at a later date. (We) probably wouldn’t do it.”
People are e-mailing to say that McCain should send Palin in his place. Yeah, I’ve got a funny feeling that’s not in the offing, although it’d be clever if Obama proposed it.
Update: A source inside the Obama camp tells NBC The One will reject the idea of cancelling the debate and argue that presidents should be able to multitask. Er, what if McCain simply doesn’t show, then? Meanwhile, Obama mega-shill Joe Klein offers a clever way to call Maverick’s bluff: Simply move the debate to D.C. so that the two candidates can be in town to work on the bill and change the topic from foreign policy to the economy.
Update: As expected, he just said at his presser that he thinks it’s important for Americans to hear from the candidates right now given that one of them will have to deal with this mess in January, etc etc, so the debate is presumably still on as far as he’s concerned. Your move, Maverick.
Update: Reid told McCain on the phone his presence is neither wanted nor needed.
“This is a critical time for our country,” says the Reid statement. “While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the Administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis. I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Senator Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op. If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now.”
A source close to Reid said McCain didn’t have much to say after that.
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HAHAHA… AWESOME
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2089671/posts
ninjapirate on September 24, 2008 at 6:09 PM
I don’t know — if you’re awake and aware, and worried that your house, your business, your credit and your retirement fund are on the line — do you want to listen to a debate of uh, um, platitudes?
I’m guessing no, but only in the real world, of course.
Nichevo on September 24, 2008 at 6:09 PM
I just don’t understand why both of them wouldn’t want to be involved. Do they think if they passed the bill today that everything will be cleared up by January 20th. You would think that the next POTUS would want to be part of crafting what the next administration will have to deal with. Unless they are voting to make Sec. Paulson the King of Finances. Obama is stupid.
Cindy Munford on September 24, 2008 at 6:09 PM
So, I have a question….possibly just rhetorical…
Edwards suspended his campaign….Hillary suspended her campaign….McCain????
Fred, are you still out there? Thompson/Palin 08.
Don’t shoot the messenger…..
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Lorien1973 — tad cyncial, aren’t we? :)
*just razzing ya, don’t take it too seriously*
baxtrice on September 24, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Maybe in Bush’s speech tonight he’ll announce there is a full investigation currently underway into Obama’s associations with the lending community.
records are being pulled
houses are being searched
people are going to jail
…so many are going to jail that the Congress now has a Republican majority and McCain needs to come back as majority leader and finish putting a plan together.
/too much malt liquor today.
cntrlfrk on September 24, 2008 at 6:11 PM
CT:
Where are you getting the idea that everyone from Bernacke to Bush to Paulson to Warren Buffet to litereally hundreds of analysts and economists are all just making this up?
Economics are not a good issue for Republicans. If there was anyway, Republicans could have kept all of this under the rug until after the election I think they would have.
But not everything is about politics. This is a financial crisis and if the Democrats respond to as if it were no big deal and it turns out to be anywhere near as bad as economists and analysts are saying…well let’s just say they might lose that advantage.
Terrye on September 24, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Harry Reid is two-faced phony. Yesterday he said it was vital for McCain to be a part of the bailout bill, now all of the sudden he’s not?! This country is going downhill fast with these politicians.
dugan on September 24, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Harry Reid hectoring John McCain is about the most distasteful and unseemly tableau in recorded American political history.
JudetheFossil on September 24, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Bingo. I think the fear being pushed right now is making people panicky when they shouldn’t be. It seems to be evident even here despite the Boss posting about killing this bill over at her site. For goodness sakes I’m seeing fiscal conservatives and staunch libertarians actually coming together for the first time in a long while against this.
CTDeLude on September 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM
enough republicans to filibuster. that’s all the power he needs.
lorien1973 on September 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM
What is the left going to fight with, bitch slaps?
rjs34 on September 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM
At the risk of repeating myself, McCain is on the senate commerce committee, and he can bring up all of the points we have raised here about corruption stemming from congress, if he chooses.
Vashta.Nerada on September 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM
apples and oranges, man–and yes, of course, your question IS rhetorical. Good as a rhetorical device, but nothing more
Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM
I’m one of those people who are gonna get butt-raped when Obama gets into office. People have no clue how his tax increases are going to cause inflation. No clue at all.
lorien1973 on September 24, 2008 at 6:13 PM
That term is going around this thread a lot (and with good reason)… I wonder if Reid uses a coin.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 24, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Oh Janos…laugh a little, love a little, get a damn sense of humor.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM
And complaining about McCain isn’t helping either.
So lets see.. McCain and no taxes.. or Obama and butt-raping?
You make the call!
upinak on September 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM
HAH! I actually laughed.
Sultry Beauty on September 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM
What is the left going to fight with, bitchslaps?
rjs34 on September 24, 2008 at 6:15 PM
It is the new Obama Presidential Mint Coin.. double sided.
upinak on September 24, 2008 at 6:15 PM
No Grue, snake oil and an eight ball.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:15 PM
“Outlook fuzzy, ask again… oops!” -SMASH-
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 24, 2008 at 6:16 PM
If that’s truly what he’s after then all the power to him. If there’s one thing that has been escaping notice is the culpability of Congress in all of this. This is at their feet.
CTDeLude on September 24, 2008 at 6:16 PM
From Bush, Paulson, Bernanke, Jack Welch, Warren Buffet, Bill Gross, Mitt Romney, and almost everyone else that was looking at the credit market last week and saw it come to a standstill. Eliminating credit basically erases the money supply, which leads to economic depression.
phronesis on September 24, 2008 at 6:16 PM
So, maybe someone should tell Barry….
“A joint meeting with Obama and McCain-No, Barry, there will not be any marijuana at the meeting.”
-D. Axelrod
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM
I have a pretty good idea from keeping up with his campaign since the primaries. I have friends who think he’s the “bee’s knees” (my phrase, not theirs) and I’m pretty damned sure that the spector of Lenin/Marx is smiling from above.
baxtrice on September 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Good call, Spirit.
RushBaby on September 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM
True dat.
I was saying over a year ago that with higher minimum wages and higher taxes, under Obama high inflation is a given. The economy collapses and the new Obama government takes over and does what is good for all the people and puts a socialist government style into place.
cntrlfrk on September 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM
What exactly does Obama hope to accomplish by sitting in a hotel room prepping for a debate- he can’t go out campaigning, he’d look like a total fool, and he can’t keep making statements about the financial situation- if he has an opinion he should be in Washington helping. I think Obama has more at stake here than McCain. And, BTW- is he STILL collecting his senate pay?
anniekc on September 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM
newt speaks:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODhkMmQwNWM0Mjc1Yzg1YWQ4NWU3ZTkyMjg4NjUyZWE=
Newt on Senator McCain’s Decision to Suspend His Campaign to Forge an Agreement on the Financial Crisis:
The McCain Leadership Factor
Today john McCain showed what it meant to put country first.
He put everything on the line to try to put together a bipartisan sizable economic package to replace the failed Paulson bailout package.
This is the greatest single act of responsibility ever taken by a presidential candidate and rivals President Eisenhower saying, ‘I will go to Korea.’
Every House and Senate Republican should join him in seeking the best ideas and the best solutions from across the country.
This is the day the McCain-reform Republican Party began to truly emerge as a movement which puts country first, solutions first, and big change first.
If House and Senate Republicans can help McCain put together a three part economic package history could be made.
We need:
An economic growth component;
An energy solution; and
A work-out (not a bail-out) for the financial sector.
unseen on September 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Sorry that when McCain acts like a dufus, I call him on it.
I’m not pretending know what McCain’s better play was here. But being called into Washington by Reid. Doing so, and being smacked down by Reid was transparent yesterday. He walked face first into the door.
Now, if he “restarts” his campaign, he has loser-stench all over him. The 9% senate doesn’t want him there.
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.
lorien1973 on September 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM
This is to the commentator half-way down page 6 or 7 (possibly page 5). His comment wasn’t addressed to me, but regardless:
YOU’RE WRONG!
YYZ on September 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM
newt speak about Obama:
Newt on Senator Obama Refusing to Suspend His Campaign:
As Speaker of the House, I know what being in deep negotiations is and what it takes to get members in Congress to get something done. We were able to work through welfare reform and a balanced budget. Let me just tell you first hand, what Senator McCain is proposing will take extraordinary hard work and it is going to take many long hours.
It is surprisingly irresponsible and politically dangerous for the Obama campaign to try and insist on a debate Friday night.
While both of these men are candidates for president, they are still both currently serving as United States Senators. The American people, in this kind of economic situation, want to see their elected leaders working to solve this crisis, not debating. They want this problem fixed and that will mean getting real bipartisan agreement. .All members on both sides in both houses including Senators McCain and Obama are going to have to roll up their sleeves, sit down, listen to each-other, and work very hard to get it done.
I’m not sure Senator Obama has ever participated in a crisis of this magnitude at this level, but he should set aside politicking and commit to working with Senator McCain to find a solution to this problem.
The economy can’t wait, postpone the debate. We can get back to talking later. For the moment, let’s produce a real solution for America.
same link
unseen on September 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Ha ha ha Barney Frank looks like an ass on Fox in a 2003 clip.
artchick on September 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Pooty Poot knows when Pooty Poot is totally victorious when all his opposition who can’t handle the truth can do is try to attack Pooty Poot and not credibly defend the McChicken. You are all socialist lackeys now.
PootyPoot on September 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM
No, Harry Reid needs to grow up and be a man! He is the leader of the Senate…act like it!
You can resume your personal Bush vendetta later, Reid. We need to fix the problems that your damn party created.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM
CT…
As a business owner/ inventor and manufacturer.. today and right now I could give a rats ass about debates.
We have the potential for liquidity issues in the entire business sector, that should credit tighten or loans be called or shut down.. lots of jobs will be lost.. and I mean lots.
McCain is right.. let’s get a solution or start of one because debates and elections will come but right now there is a bigger issue before us..
Not time to panic but not a time to have a finger in the wind either…
theblacksheepwasright on September 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Typhonsentra on September 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM
McCain is one of the few Senator’s that have a track record of working both sides to get things done maybe that’s why Reid doesn’t want him back now because he knows McCain can get things done that he cant???
tee866 on September 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM
… Heh. Five bucks this guy’s not a troll, he’s a gag. False alarm, folks. :)
*doesn’t eat*
Grue in the Attic on September 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM
This is what pisses me off about republicans.
Obama says he wont raise taxes for anyone over 250k Granted.
So instead of raising taxes on Mrs Smith; you are going to raise taxes on:
The place where she buys her food.
The place where she buys her clothes.
The place that sells her gas.
The place who delivers food to the store she shops at.
The place who delivers clothes to place she shops at.
The company who grows the food she guys.
The company who produces the clothes she buys.
The company who imports the clothes she buys.
The company who supplies the chemicals needed to grow the food she guys.
etc
etc
etc
And then say she isn’t going to get with a tax increase.
Laughable.
Yet republicans cannot make the argument coherently.
lorien1973 on September 24, 2008 at 6:21 PM
3rd character….sign of assh*olitis. Get thee to the doctor fast, Poop.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Now pootypoot is talking in the third person.
Terrye thinks that pootypoot is a silly little person with a personality disorder.
Terrye on September 24, 2008 at 6:21 PM
OOH….OUCH! drudge has an exclusive of letterman mocking mccain for canceling his show.
apparently, mccain canceled and during taping found out mccain was doing an interview with kaite couric and cut into the live feed.
that sounds embarrassing.
venicesurfer on September 24, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Then vote for Obama, smile and get butt-raped.
Ugh… Lorien you are complaining worse then dave drywall.. yet you are complaining that you are going to get finacially raped if obama gets in.
Jesus… pick a road and steer on it… the round abouts are giving me a headache.
upinak on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Didn’t Harry Reid earlier try to corner McCain on the bailout?
ninjapirate on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
hmmm…
QUIETLY, behind the scenes, the Clinton Administration is preparing for the biggest regulatory crackdown of recent years. Attorney General Janet Reno is linking up with banking regulators and with HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros to end the supposed epidemic of discrimination against minorities in making home loans. The implications for society at large are ominous.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
unseen on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Then why are you here, Lorien? Go call your senators and tell them.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Unfortunately none of this makes me think it’s there. This is like global warming, just because some big names are all in lock step chanting the same thing doesn’t mean it’s true. Especially when I see enough from others who say otherwise.
And do not forget, EVERYTHING proposed so far, is unconstitutional. That should be enough for us to be clamoring for it’s demise. We’re a party of principles, PROVEN principles, and it’s no time to ditch those principles, which are our foundation, when things look bad.
CTDeLude on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Actually I thought Reid’s statement was pretty reasonable.
OneGyT on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
If nothing comes of the bailout, I assure you inflation will not be a problem. It will be a sweet memory.
phronesis on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
YOU GO NEWT!
Obama’s showing his inexperience and naive “hubris”. What a pri*k and a half to tell congress, “to call him if they need him”. I wouldn’t wait by the phone, you phoney arsewipe.
anniekc on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
No no… McCain’s doing all the squirming… the MSM says so…
Indianapolis Star – Obama rejects McCain’s call to delay debate
Skywise on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Quite. This is what I don’t understand about some people… it’s one or the other, choose already.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
PootyPoot on September 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Should PootyPoot being talking in the third PootyPoot?
Cindy Munford on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Battleground tracking has consistently shown McCain up 48-46
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/BG_2-way-ballot-trender.pdf
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 6:24 PM
The genius of McCain’s action is that it exploits two of Obama’s weaknesses:
1. His pride, which would not let him agree to share in McCain’s statesmanlike proposal.
2. His paralyzing tentativeness, which makes this all-important issue seem like just another above his paygrade.
Terrie on September 24, 2008 at 6:24 PM
What is Obama afraid of? This suspension by McCain should give Obama an edge. He should welcome it. But for some reason he is bothered by it.
Why?
Well, I think it’s pretty clear.
He got pwnd.
csdeven on September 24, 2008 at 6:24 PM
CTDeLude on September 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Man get a clue. this is not a stick your head in the sand moment. the crisis is real and very dangerous. It is not made up global warming. It is in your face reality. The credit markets are on the brink of failure because of bad loans.
unseen on September 24, 2008 at 6:24 PM
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Jelly Toast:
I hope, I hope….
Terrye on September 24, 2008 at 6:25 PM
hey OnegyT:
What color is the sky in your world?
anniekc on September 24, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Actually, I recall that point being made very effectively during the convention during Fred Thompson’s speech and I’ve heard McCain pick up on Fred’s lines and use them in clips I’ve seen of him on the stump.
Y-not on September 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM
If nothing comes of the bailout, I assure you inflation will not be a problem. It will be a sweet memory.
phronesis on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
yeap the dollar will be worthless. As in a wheelbarrow of dollars will be needed to buy a loaf of bread worthless.
unseen on September 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM
Nelson and Martinez. LOL. Worst senators ever.
What round about? If you think this was smart; you are wrong. Read Drudge’s update. Letterman is making a joke of McCain. Is this a positive? I realize Letterman is partisan, fine, but come on.
If popular culture is laughing at you, you can’t win.
McCain -could- make this pay off, but I can’t see how. He sure hasn’t impressed as of late.
Sorry to rain on everyone’s parade with a little reality ;)
lorien1973 on September 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM
We don’t even do that any more. Well not very often anyway. Beat the hell out of them, yes of course, but not shoot them. The Lockstep Socialist Hotair Commune of Reality Denial has been known to though. Big Time.
PootyPoot on September 24, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Obama’s showing his inexperience and naive “hubris”. What a pri*k and a half to tell congress, “to call him if they need him”. I wouldn’t wait by the phone, you phoney arsewipe.
anniekc on September 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Doesn’t show leadership does it? If you need me I’ll be here? what nonsense is that.
unseen on September 24, 2008 at 6:27 PM
HAH. Ridiculous. This is easily the most ludicrous statement I’ve seen all day that wasn’t spoken by a politician or troll.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM
We do not need Paulson’s bailout proposal. It’s horrible, and has become bogged down by Democrats with billions in earmarks.
We need a bailout, but we do not need THIS bailout.
It’s time for real reform and change.
Enoxo on September 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM
CT:
How about the hundreds of billions lost in stocks in less time than it takes to tell about it? How about the the 6 trillion sitting in money markets overseas that can not be put into the system because it is seizing up?
You will not believe it unless you see it, and by then it will be too late to stop the worst of it.
If you want to ignore it all, okay. Bury your head in the sand, but right now, this is the number one issue for voters and they want solutions.
Terrye on September 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM
From David Letterman’s quote:
Unless it’s a hurricane… then the President should stop the world and personally run the rescue operations…
Obama: You’re doing a heckuva job Reid.
Skywise on September 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Brilliant? http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02
Check again
[sorry I posted this in the wrong thread first time]
A Axe on September 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM
I think McCain is going back to DC out of concern for his country more than politics, but I completely agree with your two points. The
juniorinfantile senator from Illinois came off as an arrogant windbag in today’s press conference. He seemed pissed off that McCain didn’t wait for their staffers to write some stupid joint statement and completely unconcerned with doing his job.Y-not on September 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Dude, you took a turn to grumpytown. The pessemism was good, but not this. One day doesn’t make or break an election. No one’s going to be thinking about Letterman when they cast their vote. A lot is going to happen between now and Friday. Let’s stay calm and hope McCain makes it work.
BadgerHawk on September 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Good thing I am getting my vicadin prescription refilled today. I am going to double the dose tonite. That way I can enjoy watching the McCain/ Saracuda flame out without thinking about how having a president B. Hussein Obama is going to screw me over.
McCain is getting his ASS handed to him (read polls much?) and he went for the long-ball—we need to suspend the debates and the campaign—and Obama and Reid and Letterman made him look like a total tool.
How y’all liking that Saracuda choice now?
Roger Waters on September 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM
RealClear Politics has McCain up in the majority of Virginia polls,,,,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/va/virginia_mccain_vs_obama-551.html
JellyToast on September 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Is Obama’s response the financial equivalent of:
LET THEM EAT CAKE?
bloggless on September 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Go change your pants, Pooty.
Oh, and Janos, hardy har har.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:30 PM
You are a marked man now for sure around here. I can offer you protection in my country. It will cost you of course.
PootyPoot on September 24, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Or, he tries taking over, people wise up, and the Dems get absolutely decimated in 2010. I could see a Clinton-like win for Obama (although much closer) in 2008, and then a Clinton-like Democratic cratering two years later (although much worse).
Hey, I’m trying to stay positive.
Pope Linus on September 24, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Didn’t you get the memo? We banned polls. We had a poll over it and everything.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Let’s just say that Governor Palin appears to be passing, with flying colors, Mr. Kerry’s GLOBAL TEST!
bloggless on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Here’s the thing: You can’t teach common sense. American citizens should already understand our system of government, civics and financial markets.
baxtrice on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Umm first off you are sounding like a Liberal. If you don’t like what is going on… guess what no one else does either. It is scarey and people are starting to flip out. But being insulting is just wrong.. you won’t support this or that or anything shows that you are a “middle” running fool.
Second.. a RoundAbout: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout
Its a road that goes in circles.. literally. You aren’t going anywhere, just round and round and round you go… I wonder if you ever get off of them.
Third… the only thing you are doing is making a fool of yourself and everyone is starting to notice your snarky attitude.
Am I making myself clear? Do I need to speak 2 yr old?
upinak on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Palin Interview on Couric should be coming up soon.
Enoxo on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Did you get your Lithium script filled too, Roger?
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Maybe, but if this were true how do you explain Reagan?
Most people don’t really care that much about politics, or know that much, either. Some of them perk up as a national elections nears, but half of those who could vote, don’t
Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Yeah Reid’s statement is reasonable, like this war is lost was reasonable.
Terrye on September 24, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Oh look, Lorien. You found a friend.
HornetSting on September 24, 2008 at 6:33 PM
No, no, Reid’s statement was totally reasonable… unless you put it side by side with yesterday’s where he said the bill can’t possibly pass without McCain’s support.
BadgerHawk on September 24, 2008 at 6:33 PM
I’m with you, Grue. They laughed at Reagan for 8 years and then at George W. for another 8 years. And, frankly, we all laughed at Clinton for 8 years (ok, I was mostly gagging, not laughing, but whatever.)
The presidents that were more middle of the road and tried to “get along”, George H.W. and Jimmy, were one-term presidents.
Y-not on September 24, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Imagine that, a President who can do more than one thing at a time? Let’s face it we can cancel this one long enough so that the empty skirt doesn’t have to debate either.
You can talk about Obama never being back in Washington, but at least he voted in July, McCain … April.
What a sorry excuse for a candidate McCain is. Rush was right before he was wrong about McCain, he is a worthless candidate.
Monkei on September 24, 2008 at 6:34 PM
With all due respect, didn’t Lorien used to be a liberal?
bloggless on September 24, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Ha ha ha! McCain just slammed Obama on CBS with Katie Couric.
Enoxo on September 24, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Does someone pay people like pp and roger and friends to bother wingnuts or something by constantly posting juvenile crap.
I tell you what guys, I will make it easy for you. I will do a little post and you can cut and paste it and save yourselves time and trouble:
nya nya nya nya nya my guy’s ahead and your guy’s a loser nya nya nya nya nya.
Terrye on September 24, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Listen to Rush much?
bloggless on September 24, 2008 at 6:35 PM
No clue.. don’t care. It lost my interest with the last two posts.
upinak on September 24, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Hey I agree we need to get a solution going, unfortunately that solution is NOTHING like, and in fact just the opposite, what is being proposed. Government needs to get the hell out of the private sector and the idea of “to big to fail” be eliminated from the vocabulary of any government official. CEOs need to be reintroduced to the risks of unfettered greed. Greed, with no cushion to fall on, will measure itself. And when it doesn’t those who engaged in it will fail and provide a message to the rest of the market of what not to do. Yea it can make the market a scary thing but nothing is a guarantee in capitalism except supply and demand. This is what the Founders wanted. Show me otherwise.
CTDeLude on September 24, 2008 at 6:35 PM
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