Obama backtracking on wide range of policy

posted at 12:30 pm on September 23, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Why flip-flop on specific policies one at a time, when a candidate can do so much more efficiently by calling a general retreat?  Less than 48 hours after telling CNBC that his health-insurance plan was fully funded and would not get affected by a massive government bailout of the credit markets, Obama has reversed himself and put his expensive federal programs on hold.  He also criticized his own running mate on the Today show this morning:

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said in an interview aired Tuesday that the cost of the mortgage bailout plan may rein in his ambitious plans for health care, energy, education and infrastructure.

Obama’s comments reflect the possible new constraints on the next president’s ability to expand or start programs or cut taxes. The government financial interventions of the past two weeks could cost more than $1 trillion.

Obama told NBC’s Matt Lauer on the “Today” show that he doesn’t expect the mortgage plan to cost the full $700 billion right away, and all the money won’t be lost.

“Does that mean that I can do everything that I’ve called for in this campaign right away?” Obama said. “Probably not. I think we’re going to have to phase it in. And a lot of it’s going to depend on what our tax revenues look like.”

Now Obama wants us to forget the massive spending that he proposed because the Treasury bailout will pre-empt it.  Okay, fair enough.  But even before the credit market meltdown, we faced (and still face) an entitlement program meltdown of even larger dimensions.  Neither candidate has adequately addressed that, but at least John McCain acknowledges its existence and its size.  Obama has campaigned on adding to that burden without the least thought of reform, at least until he belatedly realized that the money simply doesn’t exist now, and it never really did.

The most amazing part of this is that he reached this conclusion not at the start of the current meltdown, but more than a week later.  The general parameters of the bailout were widely known on Friday afternoon.  Sunday morning, Obama tells John Harwood that it won’t affect his big-spending policies, since they’re “paid for”, in his words.  By Tuesday morning, Obama’s hitting reverse.  What happened to all that funding?  Obama realized that the meltdown will rock the economy, and all of those soak-the-rich tax increases will produce little or no revenue — and imposing them will worsen an economy threatening to go into shock.

That led to Obama’s criticism of his running mate, less than 24 hours after Biden criticized Obama.  Obama slammed McCain for initially opposing the bailout and then changing his mind, arguing that McCain should have waited for all of the information to come to him before taking a public position.  Matt Lauer then pointed out that Joe Biden had done exactly the same thing:

But Lauer pointed out that Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), had initially said the same thing – on “Today,” no less.

“I think that in that situation, I think Joe should have waited, as well,” Obama said.

It’s very rare for one ticket mate to publicly second-guess the other. But on the “CBS Evening News” on Monday, Biden had chastised his own campaign for a TV ad portraying McCain as a computer illiterate. Biden backed off his criticism of the ad in a statement the campaign released three hours later.

Obama appears to be seriously adrift.  Circumstances have forced him out of the entire range of his domestic policies, including a middle-class tax cut, while the two Democrats seem more at war with each other than with Republicans.  What argument does he have left for the Presidency — his deep executive and foreign-policy experience?


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Because he’s Mr. Change, donchaknow.

powerpro on September 23, 2008 at 12:33 PM

I wonder if Biden is throwing the election for Obama.

Some of the stuff Biden is saying is just OUT THERE.

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM

He is still going to cure global warming and reduce the level of the seas…the rest can just wait.

HawaiiLwyr on September 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM

You think THE ONE is going to call Obiden a racist next?

freeus on September 23, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Is Obama now candidate shrinky-dink?

He is like the wicked witch in “The Wizard of Oz” after Dorothy threw the water on her! You can just hear him screaming, “HELP ME, HELP ME, I AM MELTING!”

This is truly unreal. Maybe he is over prepping for the debates and it has been too much of a strain?

freeus on September 23, 2008 at 12:38 PM

“Does that mean that I can do everything that I’ve called for in this campaign right away?” Obama said. “Probably not.”

Why should anyone expect Barry to accomplish anything as president when he’s never accomplished anything of value in his entire life up to now?

Cicero43 on September 23, 2008 at 12:38 PM

HOPENCHANJE

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM

What argument does he have left for the Presidency

The same one he’s always had: He’s half African and raised by a white family in Hawaii and Indonesia. So he not only represents the global community but by voting for him Blacks can gain a victory over “the man” by electing a guy who is more white and more African than he is black or African American. And whites can remove their guilt for the slavery and Jim Crow of the Democrat party. And of course, he’s not Bush.

D0WNT0WN on September 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM

Policy meet Bus.

Biden meet Bus.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM

He might back off his plans for energy? So we get no new technology and no new drilling. That doesn’t sound like a good plan at all.

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Obama’s fervent followers have long clung to the idea that The One is lying about almost everything, “forced” as He is to pretend a move towards the center in order to dupe the rubes and win the general election.

Maybe they’re right.

I just can’t tell anymore. Obama stands for nothing except himself.

Gilda on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

freeus on September 23, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Well, coal is black, and Biden said no to coal in America… so it’ll probably be pretty soon.

Abby Adams on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Is Obama now candidate shrinky-dink?

Now that’d be an awesome commercial!

lorien1973 on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Ot, but Ed,

You should write something about how Bill Clinton is practically falling over himself over Sarah. It’s funny!

Rightwingsparkle on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

“These are not the expensive massive new entitlement programs that I knew”
The Obamassiah on throwing his own programs under the bus, along with his running mate.

Some sort of judgment he’s exhibiting here.

rbj on September 23, 2008 at 12:41 PM

I just can’t tell anymore. Obama stands for nothing except himself.

Gilda on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

He is The One.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

I wonder what the liberals would say if they have to get gas and it is at 10+ a gallon and they are driving the old POS subaru around. I bet they would be screaming for drilling then too.

Do you think Obama may be thrown under by the liberals?

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

I wonder if Biden is throwing the election for Obama.

Some of the stuff Biden is saying is just OUT THERE.

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Thinking that Biden has cut deal with Her Thighness?

Could there be a possible Thighness/Greasman combo already in the works for ’12?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

D0WNT0WN on September 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM

That about sums it up.

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

“Does that mean that I can do everything that I’ve called for in this campaign right away?” Obama said. “Probably not. I think we’re going to have to phase it in. And a lot of it’s going to depend on what our tax revenues look like.”

America Literally cannot afford Obama.

Where have I heard that before?

cntrlfrk on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

McCain needs to hammer Obama on abandoning his government-sponsored health-care program, in ads and/or in the debates.

McCain’s own health-care program is based on tax credits, not a government takeover, so the current financial crisis would have little effect on it. But McCain can now say “America can’t afford your (Obama’s) government health-care program–I’ve been saying that for months!”

Steve Z on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Finally: Obama throws Obama under the bus.

lorien1973 on September 23, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Abby Adams on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

coal is black, grey, brown, green, and in some cases blue/purple.

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:43 PM

What argument does he have left for the Presidency — his deep executive and foreign-policy experience?

He still has Michelle as top advisor to help with the hard stuff,…like keeping Hillary off the ticket.

a capella on September 23, 2008 at 12:43 PM

America Literally cannot afford Obama.

Where have I heard that before?

cntrlfrk on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Yep, two awesome commercials for McCain today.

Run with this, dude!

lorien1973 on September 23, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Hmmmmm greasy theighs…. sounds like chicken to me!

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM

he wrote two books about himself!

SDarchitect on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Obama’s followers will say this is a mark of a great man. He can change positions as the times warrant it. He is willing to compromise to make things work.
They are fools for believing this, but believers non-the-less.

right2bright on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Sadly, a lot of Obama’s die hard environmentalist supporters live in urban areas. Not only would they not be hurt as badly as the average American by 10/gal gas, they would welcome it.

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

“I’m, uh, not really in, uh, charge of the campaign anymore.

Uh…Uh…Shortly before, ah, the convention, I simply ran out of, uh, things to say, uh, new ideas, and uh, big words also. All of my advisors are, uh, now talking amongst themselves and to, uh, Joe without regard to my input or, uh, thoughts on the matter. My wife, uh, Michelle, forces me to sleep on the couch. I think this has something to do with not picking as the VP, which at this point would have been a better decision.

BobMbx on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Hmmmmm greasy theighs…. sounds like chicken to me!

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM

That pretty much would sum up Teh One’s administration. Too chicken to take a position on policy. Too chicken to defend this country.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Joe’s UNDER the BUS!

SDarchitect on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

I wonder what the liberals would say if they have to get gas and it is at 10+ a gallon and they are driving the old POS subaru around. I bet they would be screaming for drilling then too.

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Not NancyPancy and her cronies… “No drilling even if gas was $10/gallon!” Who was that again?

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Sadly, a lot of Obama’s die hard environmentalist supporters live in urban areas. Not only would they not be hurt as badly as the average American by 10/gal gas, they would welcome it.

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

True… until they want to go and do the earthy walk in the wilderness, or climb a mountain.. etc. Need gas to get to where you want. Buses don’t run everywhere!

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

He can’t even figure out what his own position is and he still might win this thing. Sigh…

Mini14 on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Like Obama’s ideal society, his policies are a mosaic, not a melting pot. That way, no matter what happens tomorrow, he was always right about it for ten minutes on some day somewhere. He can look it up.

RBMN on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Hmmm… reminds me of his Iraq policy.

Press conference to clarify his position in… 5, 4, 3, 2…

Press conference to clarify the positions from the prior press conference in 10, 9, 8, 7, …

Hmmm… do you think the media will notice that Obama has now abandoned every position he has taken since announcing that he was running and has essentially adopted the same positions that McCain has has since his announcement?

Yup… there’s that profound judgment showing itself again.

Obama’s plan for everything… condemn McCain’s position, simmer until frothy, the allow to cool… adopt position with statement similar to, “Like I’ve always said…”

Jackass…

Damiano on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM

The Pols. know what we’ll put up with as far as gas prices, and that is $4 a gallon.

x-wing on September 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Are they setting up a change in VP, as in “This is not the economic catastrophe that I knew so I need a new running mate”?

PattyJ on September 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Karl Rove you magnificient bastard! You knew if you engineered a market meltdown just before the election, which required massive influx of taxpayer dollars there wouldn’t be any way for Obama to socialize healthcare or send 850 billion to Africa and Asia and South American socialist governments. Is the US takeover of financial institutions a small price to pay for avoiding the larger catastrophe?

eaglewingz08 on September 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM

You should write something about how Bill Clinton is practically falling over himself over Sarah. It’s funny!

Rightwingsparkle on September 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

You think he might want to share a cigar with Sarah?

BobMbx on September 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Well dang just in on Fox man arrested for having a gun by Obama’s home.

tee866 on September 23, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Thinking that Biden has cut deal with Her Thighness?

Could there be a possible Thighness/Greasman combo already in the works for ‘12?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM

I guess there is polling to suggest this. Could it be that Joe Plugs is a mole in the Obama campaign to be richly rewarded by the vindictive Clintons?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Where McCain needs to hit Obama is on his lack of leadership. The media and the public will forgive Obama’s lack of leadership if McCain uses this as a cheap “flip-flop gotcha” moment. (Why? Because the response to “you flip-flopped, Obama!” is for Obama to say that the crisis has caused us to readjust priorities…)

Obama’s error reveals a more fundamental flaw. This is just like when Russia invaded Georgia: Obama stood silent! He didn’t know what to do or say in a crisis. He has no leadership skills. He’s wildly flailing. (And in so doing, he’s just admitted that raising taxes hurts the economy, begging the question of why he proposed a giant tax increase to begin with…)

Outlander on September 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Obama’s plan for everything… condemn McCain’s position, simmer until frothy, the allow to cool… adopt position with statement similar to, “Like I’ve always said…”

Jackass…

Damiano on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Exactly. When I read:

Obama backtracking on wide range of policy

The first thing that came to mind was “How can this moron ‘backtrack’ on anything?”

He hasn’t taken a stance or held one long enough to backtrack on.

cntrlfrk on September 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM

I concur with Patty J and SD – Biden is being set up for a quick role under the tires. Living in Minnesota I still see the occasional “Never Park the Bus” Wellstone bumper sticker. Who’da thunk it would come to this…

Bruno Strozek on September 23, 2008 at 12:52 PM

If the election were to be determined by the ability to mimic the world’s best contortionist then Obama/Biden would have already won the race.

why?

Note that Biden is able to walk with both feet in his mouth. But even more astonishing, Obama is able to do a reverse spin with both feet in his mouth, while his head is up his butt.

Yoop on September 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM

People will vote for Obama because:
- they don’t want a Republican in office.
- they have always voted for a Demcorat.
- he is the “One”.

No one is voting for Obama because of his policies.

albill on September 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Obama appears to be seriously adrift.

Maybe he needs a stage in a stadium, with some Greek colums, ………………….. and probably a telepromter.

Seven Percent Solution on September 23, 2008 at 12:54 PM

The first thing that came to mind was “How can this moron ‘backtrack’ on anything?”

He hasn’t taken a stance or held one long enough to backtrack on.

cntrlfrk on September 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM

A moving target is harder to hit?

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Sorry but I think the damage has been done. I think people have made up their minds and, with the exception of a meltdown at the debates or BHO peeling off a rubber human face to reveal his reptilian alien under skin, people have already chosen sides. Everything BHO or McCain says will be spun, ignored or buried. It’s sad because I think history will mark this election as the turning point that lead to socialism and the end of American prosperity.

Claypigeon on September 23, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Obama now seems to be trying to turn himself into a Republican. The headlines today say he is talking about spending cuts and tax cuts! WTF? Does he think ANYONE is going to believe this deathbed conversion?

Meanwhile, Factcheck is hammering him again for another false ad that completely distorts McCain’s comments about health insurance. And his campaign in Michigan now seems to be “I drive a Ford and McCain drives a Cadillac.”

Worst. Campaign. Ever.

rockmom on September 23, 2008 at 12:55 PM

In reverse, the Obama bus goes “beep, beep.” Will Slow Joe heed the warning?

Terrie on September 23, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Obama is POS(Pathetic Obtuse Socialist)

Not Right for America, or American Values.

Chakra Hammer on September 23, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Note that Biden is able to walk with both feet in his mouth. But even more astonishing, Obama is able to do a reverse spin with both feet in his mouth, while his head is up his butt.

Yoop on September 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM

OH Good God, excuse me while I clean soda off my monitor….

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 12:56 PM

If you want to see the gaff machine turbo charged ask Biden why he is also running for re-election to the Senate and not just for VP. 50/50 chance he says because I need a job next year.

meci on September 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM

The incredible shrinking Obama base (objects may appear larger than they are). No duh. One look at Mrs. O’s angry scowl and I knew Barack had a shrinkage problem.

Terrie on September 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Ed,
Don’t you realize that Obama’s policy has to circulate amongst the 300 before seeing the light of day? That takes time, man!

Deciding on policy a week later is like, super fast when you have 300 liberals weighing in, each with their own thick layer of bullshit to add.

hippie_chucker on September 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM

This is terrible, if the wheels come off the bus hordes of people are going to get crushed!

Ash on September 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM

With all of these positions, will he be able to keep then straight in a debate?

Harpoon on September 23, 2008 at 1:01 PM

coal is black, grey, brown, green, and in some cases blue/purple.

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 12:43 PM

That’s enough multiculturism out of you! Or should I say, multicoalturism?

Abby Adams on September 23, 2008 at 1:04 PM

It’s Change You Can Believe Is Going To Change And Change And Change And…

pilamaye on September 23, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Obama appears to be seriously adrift.

lol. What does that make McCain then? Lost in Space? lol.

McLostinSpace went from “the fundamentals of the economy are strong” to “we are in a total crisis!” in practically the same sentence. From opposition to bailing out AIG to supporting it in all of about a day. From saying that Chris Cox, SEC chairman whom Bush backs, violated the public trust and should be fired to seeming to forget all about that in a few days. From a long history of “I’m always for less regulation” to calling for a new “proactive” institution to intervene in the financial sector.

Troll! Troll! Troll!

10, 9, 8, 7 . . . . . . .

MB4 on September 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM

The ball is rolling….It’s just a matter of time before Biden becomes too much of a liability.
There should be a “countdown” for the Biden exit.
If not, “All HOPE is LOST” :)
I can’t wait. Gather the beer and popcorn folks…….

Nelsa on September 23, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Yes we can…change…our minds.

ynot4tony2 on September 23, 2008 at 1:06 PM

What’s the difference between Obama and a garden variety windmill? The windmill knows which way the wind is blowing.

tarpon on September 23, 2008 at 1:07 PM

MB4 on September 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM

TROLL!!!!1!!one!!!!11!

BadgerHawk on September 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

That’s enough multiculturism out of you! Or should I say, multicoalturism?

Abby Adams on September 23, 2008 at 1:04 PM

*Insert Rush rimshot here*

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

I guess he’s just not the Biden Obama thought he knew.

Anybody hear a bus?

Awilson on September 23, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Not so much adrift as “impending implosion”.

Stock up on popcorn for Friday night.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 23, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Does this guy have any foundation, or any substantive convictions, or any moral anchor, or anything resembling intellectual honesty? Who in the world are the dolts that support this unset pillar of Jello?

rplat on September 23, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Yeah… I admit it was pretty bad. I’ve been listening to Biden too much, God love me.

Abby Adams on September 23, 2008 at 1:12 PM

That’s enough multiculturism out of you! Or should I say, multicoalturism?

Abby Adams on September 23, 2008 at 1:04 PM

I can’t help the fact I a geo-buff and I live near 6 old gold and coal mines!

I have some lignite coal on my desk. Very pretty… black, grey and brown layered.

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 1:13 PM

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

You thoughtful comments notwithstanding, with all due respect.

[I was reeled in to InfoCom as a kid with Zork, but my favorite all time was Ballyhoo. — just saying)

geckomon on September 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM

lol. What does that make McCain then? Lost in Space? lol.

McLostinSpace went from “the fundamentals of the economy are strong” to “we are in a total crisis!” in practically the same sentence. From opposition to bailing out AIG to supporting it in all of about a day. From saying that Chris Cox, SEC chairman whom Bush backs, violated the public trust and should be fired to seeming to forget all about that in a few days. From a long history of “I’m always for less regulation” to calling for a new “proactive” institution to intervene in the financial sector.

Troll! Troll! Troll!

10, 9, 8, 7 . . . . . . .

Oh please . . . take your pseudo-intellectual babbling back to KOS where you will be appreciated.

rplat on September 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Obama appears to be seriously adrift.

Maybe he needs a stage in a stadium, with some Greek colums, ………………….. and probably a telepromter.

Seven Percent Solution on September 23, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Actually he cannot drift too far before one of those anchors around his neck catches bottom. Michelle, Bill, da Rev, Father, Tony… he is on a first name basis with all of those anchors.

Yoop on September 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM

The EMPTY SUIT now has an EMPTY policy chest.
Anything with no real foundation in substance will crumble, whether its a building or a politician.
The deceit and ‘slight of mouth’ has begun to catch up with NoBama.

shooter on September 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM

The Obama Banana Boat is rudderless.

TooTall on September 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM

The Obama Banana Boat is rudderless.

TooTall on September 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Too bad the only thing that banana skins are good for it to quick shine shoes!

upinak on September 23, 2008 at 1:19 PM

A couple of people have mentioned this and I began to think it’s a possibility yesterday. These gaffes by Biden-somethings going on and I smell a rat and their name starts with a C.

jewells45 on September 23, 2008 at 1:21 PM

I love this. There’s not too much left of Barry’s platform, is there? Uh, he’s still pro-abortion, doesn’t want drill anywhere, uh, I’m thinking…what’s left?

As an aside, here’s a statement from the McCain camp in response to one of Barry’s idiotic ads which I’d like to see rolled out into a full fledged campaign:

“If Barack Obama thinks that today’s financial troubles were caused by policies which allowed Americans to use an ATM anywhere in this country, then it is better that he continue to be silent about solutions to the crisis on Wall Street,” he said. Holtz-Eakin told the Wall Street Journal that the article was talking about provisions that allowed for banking across state lines, which were approved in 1995 – not “over the last decade,” as the article said.

All this Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac stuff is way too wonky for most Americans, but any idiot can understand that we need to be able to use our ATM cards.

Buy Danish on September 23, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Oh please . . . take your pseudo-intellectual babbling back to KOS where you will be appreciated.

rplat on September 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Actually KOS has a time-out twice a day when the kiddies are allowed outside to play. Obviously the playground monitors are not keeping track of their charges, who might wander off and get run over by a bus.

Yoop on September 23, 2008 at 1:25 PM

MB4, McCain may have shot from the hip a little, but I’d rather have a President who can express a real sense of outrage over this financial meltdown and puts forward a plan than one who hides for a week and then only emerges to have a photo op with Bill Clinton’s economic team. Last week he was continuing to push massive new spending and tax rebates and only today do we see him finally coming to his senses and realizing that his whole program has just gone down the crapper.

rockmom on September 23, 2008 at 1:26 PM

OK We’re supposed to trust Obama with:

Economy? No
Ethics? No
Foreign Policy? No
Biden the blabber-mouthed gaffe master on any of the above? No

marklmail on September 23, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Wait.

Biden told an American, that Chinese coal plants are killing their lungs. No, I mean he really said that in public.

I donot understand how these 2 idiots are this close to being our country’s leaders. How do you say something like that and still have credibility?

TheHat on September 23, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Does that mean that I can do everything that I’ve called for in this campaign right away? Obama said. Probably not.

To include having judgement and demonstrating leadership.

m064404 on September 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

When your campaign is running around in circles, backtracking just takes you where you’ve been before. Which in this case is nowhere.

JimK on September 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Reality bites.

Terrye on September 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Time for McCain to roll out ANWR and all the rest of the serious energy options. Time to get real!

Create jobs in America, keep $700 Billion a year at home and save the economy!

rigdown on September 23, 2008 at 1:52 PM

upinak: I agree with your ENTIRE post – except your reference to Subaru ‘POS’

I live in the Chicago area, LOTS of snow come wintertime, and my Subaru hasn’t failed me yet. (Plus, they’re built in Lafayette, Indiana)

alwyr on September 23, 2008 at 1:52 PM

It seems like Obama is criticizing Biden to make him quit, but Biden is criticizing Obama for the same reason. Then, when they both step down for the good of the party, Hillary steps in. And picks Bill as her running mate.

It backfires. In the pandemonium that follows, McCain is elected but has to implement universal health care for the millions of the mentally and emotionally destroyed leftists.

You heard it here first…

Mini14 on September 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM

I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for an entitlement today.

chriscoolc on September 23, 2008 at 1:56 PM

What is scary as hell about all this is the the uneducated, unwashed masses are eating Obama’s BS up. They hear “CHANGE” and think it means whatever they care about. Then this completely self derived thought process is reinforced by him simultaneously taking, backing off then changing every position on everything possible. So, invariably, every one of his idiot supporters has at some point heard him promise something that they care about.

How anyone supports this imbecile is beyond me. Even further , I cannot fathom on how he waffled on the economy and blamed Bush/ McCain in opposition to all available facts (both past and during the course of last week), yet he gets a big poll bump.

Since when does saying “nobody knows what to do”, waffling and voting “present” amount to leadership, instill confidence and garner support?

BTW- can someone fill me in on why the media was reporting every five minutes that Obama is stronger on economic issues while he has been without any discernible plan… ever… and his record is shit? Better-why do people actually listen?

Damiano on September 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Obama v Biden… IT’S ON!!

CliffHanger on September 23, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Reminds me of Clinton,

“I wanted a middle class tax cut, but we just can’t afford it.”

At least he waited until he was in office before he reneged on his promise.

pxystick on September 23, 2008 at 2:02 PM

What argument does he have left for the Presidency — his deep executive and foreign-policy experience?

He gave a speech.

Sheeesh

Doesn’t that account for anything?

franksalterego on September 23, 2008 at 2:04 PM

I wonder what the liberals would say if they have to get gas and it is at 10+ a gallon and they are driving the old POS subaru around. I bet they would be screaming for drilling then too.

Yo! You dissin’ the official State Car of Colorado, the only State where the bike one owns is worth more than their car…?

CliffHanger on September 23, 2008 at 2:05 PM

But even before the credit market meltdown, we faced (and still face) an entitlement program meltdown of even larger dimensions. Neither candidate has adequately addressed that, but at least John McCain acknowledges its existence and its size.

If Obama nationalizes health care, quality of care will decline and availability of lifesaving care will be reduced, which will result in a much higher mortality rate, particularly among Senior Citizens.

So, you see, the solution to the “entitlement program meltdown” is contained in Obama’s solution to the healthcare crisis. What could be simpler?

Once the US healthcare system has really hit the skids and average US Life Expectancy is down to 67 years or so, Social Security will start running at a surplus! It’s sheer genius!

gridlock2 on September 23, 2008 at 2:11 PM

There’s not too much left of Barry’s platform, is there? Uh, he’s still pro-abortion, doesn’t want drill anywhere, uh, I’m thinking…what’s left?

I have no idea what specifics O! plans to accomplish, but I know these things:
1. they will cost a lot of money;
2. the money will come by increasing taxes; and
3. O! will run all of his ideas by his BFF’s in Europe (after Michelle Ma Belle approves them, of course) before foisting them on us

O!’s vision for us is to model the U.S. economy and social mores after Europe.

Y-not on September 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Obama, has Bad Judgment, not the right person to lead.

Chakra Hammer on September 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM

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