The obligatory “what Palin would have said at the anti-Iran rally” post

posted at 1:00 pm on September 22, 2008 by Allahpundit

Red meat and potatoes from the Sun with an obligatory side dish of praise for Hillary, this time for her (relative) hawkishness towards the mullahs. Within the last hour, they’ve also posted a letter from Hillary to the organizers of the rally outlining what she would have said if she hadn’t disgracefully backed out after Palin’s invite. There’s nothing in either piece that you haven’t heard before, although Palin’s claim that Ahmadinejad dreams of eliminating “the Jewish people” is a pointed rejoinder to what the world’s tiniest terrorist said last week about distinguishing Israel from Israelis. Meanwhile at HuffPo, here’s the first attempt I’ve seen from the left to defend the decision to disinvite Palin. Why was someone from the Republican ticket invited, wonders Menachem Rosensaft, when no one from the Democratic ticket was? Possible answer: Because Hillary Clinton, who’d already committed to being there, is a vastly bigger draw and more influential surrogate for Obama than Joe “Zzzzz” Biden is, a fact Biden himself would likely admit. If you want to promote your event, you shoot for the biggest names possible — which is exactly what the organizers did, until the left decided that Hillary’s star turn at the rally to burnish Obama’s foreign-policy cred would have been diminished with Palin sharing the spotlight. They’re the partisans here, not McCain. And so I repeat my invitation to Fox News: Name ‘em and shame ‘em.

Lost in this soap opera, of course, is the point of the rally itself. Read the latest assessment from IDF intelligence about Iran’s progress on the bomb, bearing in mind that their estimate is actually conservative compared to the analysis of some independent think tanks. Readers who have been following our posts on this over the past two years know that the main obstacle to Iranian nukes is figuring out the tricks of the trade in keeping enrichment centrifuges not only online but running constantly at peak efficiency. How are they doing with that? Quote:

Physicist and former UN nuclear inspector David Albright says says Teheran could reach weapons capacity in as little as 6 months through uranium enrichment…

Iran, he says, has managed to iron out most of the bugs in the intensely complicated process of enrichment that often saw the centrifuges breaking down. The machines, he says “now appear to be running at approximately 85 percent of their stated target capacity, a significant increase over previous rates.”…

To date, Iran has produced nearly 500 kilograms of low enriched uranium, said the report – close to what Albright says is the 700 kilogram – minimum needed to produce the 20-25 kilograms needed for a simple nuclear bomb under optimal conditions.

And with Iran’s centrifuges running ever more smoothly, it “is progressing toward this capability and can be expected to reach it in six months to two years,” says Albright.

Exit question: If it’s six months to two years using standard equipment, what’s the timeline using more technologically advanced machinery?


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Kind of off topic, but anyone notice how Ahmadinejad won’t wear a tie because he doesn’t want to look too “Western” (his actual reasoning), but yet wants Western nuclear weapons? I have a fantasy some politician will joke about this.

Pasalubong on September 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM

An awesome speech that American and the world desperately needed to hear, silenced by the Democrats and the IRS, what a team.

Maxx on September 22, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Obligatory or not, I’m glad the Sun, or I should say the Palin camp released this speech. It’s important to show solidarity on Iran and it puts her foreign policy views on the record. Not that that will keep anyone from saying she has no chops, but still it’s good.

Spirit of 1776 on September 22, 2008 at 1:09 PM

History will prove that only the “Bush Doctrine” could have saved us…

pherrman on September 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Apparently our Founding Fathers were “community organizers”. Thats funny, I thought they were mostly farmers, lawyers, and businessmen.

Speedwagon82 on September 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM

they’ve also posted a letter from Hillary to the organizers of the rally outlining what she would have said if she hadn’t disgracefully backed out after Palin’s invite.

Typical democrat action: Brave enough to tell us what they would have done, cowards for never following through.

geckomon on September 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM

“the world’s tiniest terrorist”

I love that :-)

Mr_Magoo on September 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Has anyone noticed that the people screaming the loudest about Palin’s foreign policy bona fides are people who have none of their own?

Celebrities
cheap suit politicians
leftist protesters
journalists
communistscolumnists
Keith Olbermann

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Apparently our Founding Fathers were “community organizers”. Thats funny, I thought they were mostly farmers, lawyers, and businessmen.

Speedwagon82 on September 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM

With quantitative accomplishments; The American Revolution, Declaration of Independence, Constitution of the United States of America, Bill of Rights.

Apparently Obama read a different Community Organizer manual.

geckomon on September 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Community Organizers back then were called preachers.
I know Obama’s not being compared to one of those.

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Another thing that an Iranian nuclear weapon accomplishes (set off in an African cargo ship in New York Harbor for example) is that it destroys any provable tangible evidence of Iranian origin. What if that happens, and nobody takes credit for it? How do you prove it was Iran and not North Korea?

RBMN on September 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM

I was amazed that the comments in the Sun were really mostly flattering.

I take it this particular paper is more conservative than others from New York?

Great speech – too bad she wasn’t able to give it.

tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Has anyone noticed that the people screaming the loudest about Palin’s foreign policy bona fides are people who have none of their own?

Celebrities
cheap suit politicians
leftist protesters
journalists
communistscolumnists
Keith Olbermann

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM

You forgot Obama on that list.

highhopes on September 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM

We have a lot of nuclear weapons lying around. Couldn’t we just air lift them a couple?

Tommy_G on September 22, 2008 at 1:23 PM

You forgot Obama on that list.

highhopes on September 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM

, cheap suit politicians?

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Exit question: If it’s six months to two years using standard equipment, what’s the timeline using more technologically advanced machinery?

If Obama wins, no doubt January 21st.

tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM

“Tommy_G on September 22, 2008 at 1:23 PM”

patience my good man, that’s a last resort sort of step …

Buckaroo on September 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM

“tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM”

um, Steyn writes for the Sun …
:-)

Buckaroo on September 22, 2008 at 1:26 PM

So what were the organizers of this rally who un-invited Sarah Palin afraid of? That someone was actually going to get up there and say in words that no one would misunderstand that America isn’t going to tolerate Iran’s BS anymore, just as Ronald Reagan did the day he took office back when Iran was holding all those American hostages? They let them go within less than hour from him taking the oath of office because they knew what was going to happen if they didn’t. I think Palin would have also made sure someone like Ahmadinejad got the same message, loud and clear.

pilamaye on September 22, 2008 at 1:26 PM

“tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM”

eh, give em ’till springtime mebbe …
[!]

Buckaroo on September 22, 2008 at 1:26 PM

, cheap suit politicians?

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Needs to be “empty suit”. Just for clarity.

tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM

cheap suit politicians?

Not to mention celebrities, leftist protesters and communists. Obama fits most of that list

lodge on September 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM

Needs to be “empty suit”. Just for clarity.

tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM

I use empty suit for people who bring nothing to the table. Obamanation brings something…and it’s ALL BAD.

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

I would have liked for her to something like, “Mr. Ahmadinejad, in the REAL world, women don’t hunker down in fear of the backward-thinking men in your culture. In the REAL world, gals like me would kick your ass in the town square if you tried turning me into some kind of seen-but-not-heard household prop you make of your women… you midieval primate.”

VastRightWingConspirator on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Is it just me, or are Allahpundit’s posts difficult to read?

digitalintrigue on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

RBMN on September 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Exactly. Unlike OKC, we won’t be able to find remnants of a Ryder truck with a readable VIN that can be traced to a rental office in Junction City, KS. Whatever vehicle is used to deliver the nuke will be vaporized. There will literally be no fingerprints.

And instead of a handful of buildings on Manhattan Island, we’ll have thousands reduced to rubble. Instead of three thousand deaths, it’ll be millions.

However, I don’t think Iran will attack New York City. I’m guessing they want to get Jerusalem and Tel Aviv instead.

There is only one way to prevent that, which is to keep them from assembling sufficient fissionables to build the bomb in the first place.

But if they do manage to get one built, and it detonates, turning Bushehr into a crater, I won’t be the least bit surprised.

The Monster on September 22, 2008 at 1:32 PM

“But if they do manage to get one built, and it detonates, turning Bushehr into a crater, I won’t be the least bit surprised.”

the ultimate work accident …
[!]

Buckaroo on September 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM

digitalintrigue on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

you

Spirit of 1776 on September 22, 2008 at 1:35 PM

We have a lot of nuclear weapons lying around. Couldn’t we just air lift them a couple? – Tommy_G on September 22, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Not necessary…the ones in land-based and sub-based silos have their own propulsion systems.

ManlyRash on September 22, 2008 at 1:39 PM

History will prove that only the “Bush Doctrine” – enforced by a president with the guts to back up words with deeds — could have saved us…

pherrman on September 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Fixed.

MrScribbler on September 22, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Is it just me, or are Allahpundit’s posts difficult to read? – digitalintrigue on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

It’s you. But we’re here to help. What do you not understand?

ManlyRash on September 22, 2008 at 1:41 PM

communistscolumnists

john1schn on September 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM

How about

(fifth) columnists?

EnglishMike on September 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Like I said in the headline comments, why can’t Palin just make the speech somewhere in NY anyway? Does she have to be ‘invited’ to do so? Can’t the local Republicans set up their own protest event?

EnglishMike on September 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM

I would like to have seen her deliver a speech that required a more measured and serious tone. It would be a good contrast to her rally speeches.

joepub on September 22, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Is it just me, or are Allahpundit’s posts difficult to read?

digitalintrigue on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Did you receive your AP decoder ring in the mail?

right2bright on September 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Is it just me, or are Allahpundit’s posts difficult to read?

digitalintrigue on September 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Quite often I find Allah’s post difficult to read because of too many neologism, foreign terms/phrases I’ve never heard of and his penchant to provide links rather than simply make a point. Of course that last one boost the hit count for the site and is part of his job. But yes, all of these things sometimes combine to makes Allah’s posts too cryptic and difficult to read.

But you get use to it after a while and you’re forced to learn new things.

Maxx on September 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM

I just returned from the rally at the UN and several people were holding pro-Palin signs like “Where is Sarah” and
“NY loves Sarah.”

The Democracts running the rally and the lefty laywers threanening law suits knew Sarah would kick ass and probably win over several pro-Israel Democracts.

RobCon on September 22, 2008 at 2:27 PM

It’s you. But we’re here to help. What do you not understand?

ManlyRash on September 22, 2008

I understand them just fine, it’s just too much effort (i.e., ‘difficult.’)

Perhaps insert a few more carriage returns for readability? And Maxx is right, fewer links, more points.

digitalintrigue on September 22, 2008 at 2:30 PM

right2bright on September 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Heh…they’re newbies. :-)

ManlyRash on September 22, 2008 at 2:50 PM

The source of nuclear materials can be determined post-fission by their isotopic signature, sort of a nuclear fingerprint. Of course, one needs to have samples of the suspects’ nuclear materials in order to make a match. I don’t know if the IAEA is taking samples to this end, or if we will have to rely on the Israelis, again, to be the grown-ups in this situation.

Of course that’s half the equation, the other half is the will to respond effectively, and that is rather complicated by the fact that the Iranian regime is a radical 12th Iman death-cult that welcomes it’s own destruction as a precursor to the Muslim Second-Coming that actually seeks to hasten this cataclysm, so the threat of retaliation, even to the degree Ms Clinton claimed to support, is meaningless.

The time to act is now.

Maquis on September 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM

If she walks down a public street in clothing that violates the state dress code, she could be arrested.

Um… I know this is nitpicking but that is actually true in the US as well.

factoid on September 22, 2008 at 5:10 PM

Another thing that an Iranian nuclear weapon accomplishes (set off in an African cargo ship in New York Harbor for example) is that it destroys any provable tangible evidence of Iranian origin. What if that happens, and nobody takes credit for it? How do you prove it was Iran and not North Korea?

RBMN on September 22, 2008

Easy. Nuke em both. Let God sort them out. Or we could just wait for Israel to do our heavy lifting for us in Iran and hope that N.Korea isn’t quite that suicidal.

SKYFOX on September 23, 2008 at 5:41 AM

Skyfox
How many countries has iran invaded? The iranian people are the most pro america/west in the region.
They had candlelight vigil’s following 9/11. Supported the u.s in afghanistan (they agreed that if u.s soldiers were shot down and landed in iran they would be returned).

The people are asking for support to change their political leaders but not by force ,they are a proud ancient civilization full of artefacts and history.

Iran is not camel’s and deserts, to de-humanise a whole country and call for it’s collective punishment is astounding and disappointing.

‘Wipe Israel of the map’.This false propaganda will lead us to ww3.Iran did not say that,and it wasn’t a threat.

He said(quoting an iman) zionism occupying israel will vanish from the pages of time. The same as nazism/communism.When we called for the end of communism it didn’t mean we wanted
to kill the russian people,it was the ideology.

I am not American or left wing.

mags on September 23, 2008 at 11:57 AM