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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s lie on Social Security: a cover for a retreat?</title>
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		<title>By: Why I&#8217;m Not Voting For Obama - revisited &#171; Popgun&#8217;s World</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1556624</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I&#8217;m Not Voting For Obama - revisited &#171; Popgun&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 9-22-08: Obama lies about McCain&#x2019;s handling of Social Security - while quietly removing from his website the statement that he would not be willing to raise the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wingo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1447141</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The First National Bank of Mattress is actually a better investment than Social Security. The matress pays back $1 for every $1 &quot;invested.&quot; 

SS currently pays out roughly $0.75 for every dollar confiscated. Lousy heap of socialist shinola!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The First National Bank of Mattress is actually a better investment than Social Security. The matress pays back $1 for every $1 &#8220;invested.&#8221; </p>
<p>SS currently pays out roughly $0.75 for every dollar confiscated. Lousy heap of socialist shinola!</p>
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		<title>By: Obama</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1446938</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this one a highly distorted claim about the private Social Security accounts that McCain supports.  Hot Air Blog Archive Obama</description>
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		<title>By: Obama Stoops to Lying to Elderly Voters &#171; Tiger4Truth</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1446922</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Stoops to Lying to Elderly Voters &#171; Tiger4Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And more: Hot Air/Ed Morrissey &gt; Obama&#8217;s Lie on Social Security: a cover for a retreat? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NorthWest Florida Republican &#187; Words do Matter Senator Obama. Stop Lying about Social Security.</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorthWest Florida Republican &#187; Words do Matter Senator Obama. Stop Lying about Social Security.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Morrissey over at Hot Air makes more of a point on this. But while Obama spent his time in Florida frightening old people, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rockmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama people are very unhappy about this ad and Obama&#039;s scare comments.  It&#039;s starting to sink in to some of his former true believers that he is not The One, he is just another politician.  This comes from someone I know who is well connected to the Obama campaign in PA.  They think the Clinton people have taken over the campaign and are making Obama do all this slimy stuff.  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama people are very unhappy about this ad and Obama&#8217;s scare comments.  It&#8217;s starting to sink in to some of his former true believers that he is not The One, he is just another politician.  This comes from someone I know who is well connected to the Obama campaign in PA.  They think the Clinton people have taken over the campaign and are making Obama do all this slimy stuff.  :-D</p>
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		<title>By: TooTall</title>
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		<dc:creator>TooTall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Count to 10 on September 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, that&#039;ll give me something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Count to 10 on September 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM</p>
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<p>Thanks, that&#8217;ll give me something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Why I&#8217;m NOT Voting for Obama &#171; Popgun&#8217;s World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why I&#8217;m NOT Voting for Obama &#171; Popgun&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 9-22-08: Obama lies about McCain&#x2019;s handling of Social Security - while quietly removing from his website the statement that he would not be willing to raise the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1445745</link>
		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I KNOW that it is a rumor. I address that in my original post! But I offer a theory as to HOW it could happen without a hitch and why it seems possible&gt;&gt;&gt;not PROBABLE.

If you READ to the bottom, I say that I don&#039;t think it is WISE, but I don&#039;t say it is UNLIKELY that that will be the M.O. Y&#039;all might be right about BIDEN &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; dropping out, but this is winner take all to these Libs. Does ANYTHING they do surprise you?

One of my readers offered that if they slip Hillary in after the October debate, it would be a cake walk because she wouldn&#039;t look like such a DYKE standing next to Sarah.

BUT&gt;&gt;&gt; since the NAGS just endorsed the OBAMA ticket&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with NO WOMAN on it, perhaps it is a red herring.

But then, there aren&#039;t any &lt;em&gt;WO&lt;/em&gt;MEN in the NOW anyway.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2008/09/claiming-aneury.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have UPDATED MY ORIGINAL POST&lt;/a&gt; to reflect that news AND THE FACT THAT IT IS ESTIMATED THAT A FULL ONE THIRD OF VOTING MIGHT TAKE PLACE IN ADVANCE of November 4th.
This might be more reason than ever that they will hold the ticket as it is.

But I wouldn&#039;t put it past The Clinton Hit Machine to find a way to cause Biden&#039;s brain to blow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNOW that it is a rumor. I address that in my original post! But I offer a theory as to HOW it could happen without a hitch and why it seems possible&gt;&gt;&gt;not PROBABLE.</p>
<p>If you READ to the bottom, I say that I don&#8217;t think it is WISE, but I don&#8217;t say it is UNLIKELY that that will be the M.O. Y&#8217;all might be right about BIDEN <em>not</em> dropping out, but this is winner take all to these Libs. Does ANYTHING they do surprise you?</p>
<p>One of my readers offered that if they slip Hillary in after the October debate, it would be a cake walk because she wouldn&#8217;t look like such a DYKE standing next to Sarah.</p>
<p>BUT&gt;&gt;&gt; since the NAGS just endorsed the OBAMA ticket&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with NO WOMAN on it, perhaps it is a red herring.</p>
<p>But then, there aren&#8217;t any <em>WO</em>MEN in the NOW anyway.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2008/09/claiming-aneury.html" rel="nofollow">I have UPDATED MY ORIGINAL POST</a> to reflect that news AND THE FACT THAT IT IS ESTIMATED THAT A FULL ONE THIRD OF VOTING MIGHT TAKE PLACE IN ADVANCE of November 4th.<br />
This might be more reason than ever that they will hold the ticket as it is.</p>
<p>But I wouldn&#8217;t put it past The Clinton Hit Machine to find a way to cause Biden&#8217;s brain to blow.</p>
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		<title>By: Count to 10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Count to 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

I heard one of the “talking heads” yesterday saying that the cost of the bailouts would render the grand plans of both sides unattainable. Would someone better versed in economics care to comment?

TooTall on September 22, 2008 at 12:18 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not entirely sure, but that probably works on the theory that the bailouts are going to add so much to the debt that the country won&#039;t be able to afford Obama&#039;s spending or McCain&#039;s tax cuts.
Of course, that still works on the presumption that tax rate cuts would decrease tax revenues, rather than recognizing that a marginal tax rate cut is likely to do the opposite.</description>
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<p>I heard one of the “talking heads” yesterday saying that the cost of the bailouts would render the grand plans of both sides unattainable. Would someone better versed in economics care to comment?</p>
<p>TooTall on September 22, 2008 at 12:18 PM
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<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure, but that probably works on the theory that the bailouts are going to add so much to the debt that the country won&#8217;t be able to afford Obama&#8217;s spending or McCain&#8217;s tax cuts.<br />
Of course, that still works on the presumption that tax rate cuts would decrease tax revenues, rather than recognizing that a marginal tax rate cut is likely to do the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Count to 10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Count to 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Can anyone come up with one honest thing bho has ever said?
L

letget on September 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Difficult.
Does &quot;I&#039;m Barak Obama, and I approved of this message&quot; count?</description>
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<p>Can anyone come up with one honest thing bho has ever said?<br />
L</p>
<p>letget on September 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM
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<p>Difficult.<br />
Does &#8220;I&#8217;m Barak Obama, and I approved of this message&#8221; count?</p>
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		<title>By: Big John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can anyone come up with one honest thing bho has ever said?
L

letget on September 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That he&#039;s part black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can anyone come up with one honest thing bho has ever said?<br />
L</p>
<p>letget on September 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM</p>
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<p>That he&#8217;s part black.</p>
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		<title>By: Lockstein13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lockstein13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOODNESS.

WHY and HOW Zerobama increases the retirement age is straight out of ORWELL (I paraphrase):

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Good news!  Chocolate rations will be increased from 150g to 100g per week!  That is all.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOODNESS.</p>
<p>WHY and HOW Zerobama increases the retirement age is straight out of ORWELL (I paraphrase):</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Good news!  Chocolate rations will be increased from 150g to 100g per week!  That is all.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: roux</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1445494</link>
		<dc:creator>roux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could have stopped with &quot;Obama Lie...&quot; nothing else needs to be printed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could have stopped with &#8220;Obama Lie&#8230;&#8221; nothing else needs to be printed.</p>
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		<title>By: TooTall</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/obamas-lie-on-social-security-a-cover-for-a-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-1445450</link>
		<dc:creator>TooTall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard one of the &quot;talking heads&quot; yesterday saying that the cost of the &lt;strong&gt;bailouts&lt;/strong&gt; would render the grand plans of both sides unattainable.  Would someone better versed in economics care to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard one of the &#8220;talking heads&#8221; yesterday saying that the cost of the <strong>bailouts</strong> would render the grand plans of both sides unattainable.  Would someone better versed in economics care to comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Republicans running away from their own ideals&#8230; &#171; Cowardly political musings&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicans running away from their own ideals&#8230; &#171; Cowardly political musings&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] running away from their own&#160;ideals&#8230;  Jump to Comments Ed has a posting about the recent attack from Obama saying that: If my opponent had his way, the millions of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Typhoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Typhoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we’re here today arguing minutiae on a website most people never heard of.

I think Ed and Allah and Michelle might take exception to that….

tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 11:19 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh I doubt that. They know their numbers and the score.

I&#039;m not at all condemning or belittling them or the site or their work. But the number of people in the US who read political blogs is pretty small. The number who post on them smaller still. And of course while it&#039;s unfortunate it&#039;s true that the Left has the Right beat by a good bit.

No, even though I get annoyed by Allah&#039;s pessimism and I&#039;d like to throttle him every time he makes a joke about the use of inhalants, my point wasn&#039;t to demean Hotair. My point was--and is--that I hear much too often from way to many quarters from way too many people that the problem in the US is everyone who doesn&#039;t do as they do and think as they do.

And that idea is never a good one in a free society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we’re here today arguing minutiae on a website most people never heard of.</p>
<p>I think Ed and Allah and Michelle might take exception to that….</p>
<p>tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 11:19 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh I doubt that. They know their numbers and the score.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at all condemning or belittling them or the site or their work. But the number of people in the US who read political blogs is pretty small. The number who post on them smaller still. And of course while it&#8217;s unfortunate it&#8217;s true that the Left has the Right beat by a good bit.</p>
<p>No, even though I get annoyed by Allah&#8217;s pessimism and I&#8217;d like to throttle him every time he makes a joke about the use of inhalants, my point wasn&#8217;t to demean Hotair. My point was&#8211;and is&#8211;that I hear much too often from way to many quarters from way too many people that the problem in the US is everyone who doesn&#8217;t do as they do and think as they do.</p>
<p>And that idea is never a good one in a free society.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obamas argument is completely bogus on ALL fronts.

Lets say we completely privitized the system for younger workers with private accounts in investment accounts.

Even if the Feds guaranteed the minimum benefits currently available in the case of stock market downturns it would still be enormously less expensive than the current program.

Freedom and private ownership is what the Democrats really have a problem with.  Too bad they don&#039;t have the guts to say it openly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamas argument is completely bogus on ALL fronts.</p>
<p>Lets say we completely privitized the system for younger workers with private accounts in investment accounts.</p>
<p>Even if the Feds guaranteed the minimum benefits currently available in the case of stock market downturns it would still be enormously less expensive than the current program.</p>
<p>Freedom and private ownership is what the Democrats really have a problem with.  Too bad they don&#8217;t have the guts to say it openly.</p>
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		<title>By: Enoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off Topic, but this is interesting:

Off the report yesterday that FBI served a search warrant on the email hacker, turns out his guilty conscious was in control of his brain--

&quot;Kernell and some of his friends reportedly fled when agents arrived, though the local TV station that reported the raid is a bit unclear about this detail.&quot; - http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/fbi-raid-apartm.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off Topic, but this is interesting:</p>
<p>Off the report yesterday that FBI served a search warrant on the email hacker, turns out his guilty conscious was in control of his brain&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Kernell and some of his friends reportedly fled when agents arrived, though the local TV station that reported the raid is a bit unclear about this detail.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/fbi-raid-apartm.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/fbi-raid-apartm.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: tru2tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>tru2tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we’re here today arguing minutiae on a website most people never heard of.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think Ed and Allah and Michelle might take exception to that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we’re here today arguing minutiae on a website most people never heard of.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think Ed and Allah and Michelle might take exception to that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: highhopes</title>
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		<dc:creator>highhopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;doppelganglander on September 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By all indicators, this is supposed to be a good year for Democrats with them poised to take over the White House and expand their majorities in Congress to the point that they don&#039;t have to rely on political traitors like McCain to thwart legislative initiatives from the right.  

The reality is that there probably will be some net gain but the Democrats are not going have the banner year they thought.  Pelosi is pretty safe in her job because it would take an outright revolt of Democrats to dethrone the queen but IMO Reid is toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>doppelganglander on September 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>By all indicators, this is supposed to be a good year for Democrats with them poised to take over the White House and expand their majorities in Congress to the point that they don&#8217;t have to rely on political traitors like McCain to thwart legislative initiatives from the right.  </p>
<p>The reality is that there probably will be some net gain but the Democrats are not going have the banner year they thought.  Pelosi is pretty safe in her job because it would take an outright revolt of Democrats to dethrone the queen but IMO Reid is toast.</p>
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		<title>By: AubieJon</title>
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		<dc:creator>AubieJon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah but see that’s my point: It makes no difference how you phrase it. The bottom line is you see yourself as part of an elite. In this case an elite that happens to be political junkies to the extent that we’re here today arguing minutiae on a website most people never heard of.

And over on the Left they do the same thing. But the point is the same–that the people aren’t capable of governing themselves–and I don’t like it, regardless of the form it takes.

Typhoon on September 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your response is no different than O-Bambi claiming racism every time someone disagrees with him.  In pointing out that no informed, sane person would vote to elect O-Bambi doesn&#039;t mean that I&#039;m aligning myself with some elitist &quot;they&quot;.

There&#039;s a big difference between people beikng informed enough to make the right decisions in an election and being able to govern themselves.  Ironically, the folks who will vote for O-Bambi will be voting for someone to tell them how to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah but see that’s my point: It makes no difference how you phrase it. The bottom line is you see yourself as part of an elite. In this case an elite that happens to be political junkies to the extent that we’re here today arguing minutiae on a website most people never heard of.</p>
<p>And over on the Left they do the same thing. But the point is the same–that the people aren’t capable of governing themselves–and I don’t like it, regardless of the form it takes.</p>
<p>Typhoon on September 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Your response is no different than O-Bambi claiming racism every time someone disagrees with him.  In pointing out that no informed, sane person would vote to elect O-Bambi doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;m aligning myself with some elitist &#8220;they&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between people beikng informed enough to make the right decisions in an election and being able to govern themselves.  Ironically, the folks who will vote for O-Bambi will be voting for someone to tell them how to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Around The Campaign 2008 Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Around The Campaign 2008 Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] OBAMA AND SOCIAL SECURITY: Hot Air&#8217;s Ed Morrissey sees several things that raise [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rockmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruth Marcus in the Washington Post today body-slams Obama on this.  Politico has also picked it up.  The Factcheck page on it is HARSH.  I can&#039;t imagine why Obama thought he could get away with such a bold-faced lie.  

If I see this ad running in PA I am going to email every reporter and talk radio host in Philly and call every TV station to demand they take it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruth Marcus in the Washington Post today body-slams Obama on this.  Politico has also picked it up.  The Factcheck page on it is HARSH.  I can&#8217;t imagine why Obama thought he could get away with such a bold-faced lie.  </p>
<p>If I see this ad running in PA I am going to email every reporter and talk radio host in Philly and call every TV station to demand they take it down.</p>
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		<title>By: doppelganglander</title>
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		<dc:creator>doppelganglander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How much of this hysteria about getting Obama elected is really Democrats who see the very real possibility that they are going to lose the White House for the third time? Can the Democrat Party withstand a third defeat?

highhopes on September 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Probably not, in its present form. Combine an Obama loss with the poor leadership Pelosi and Reid are providing in Congress, and you&#039;ve got a lot of pissed off Democrats. While I don&#039;t believe Republicans are going to retake the House or the Senate this year, I don&#039;t think the Dems are going to expand their majority either. I would not be a bit surprised to see a new Speaker and Senate Majority Leader in January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How much of this hysteria about getting Obama elected is really Democrats who see the very real possibility that they are going to lose the White House for the third time? Can the Democrat Party withstand a third defeat?</p>
<p>highhopes on September 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably not, in its present form. Combine an Obama loss with the poor leadership Pelosi and Reid are providing in Congress, and you&#8217;ve got a lot of pissed off Democrats. While I don&#8217;t believe Republicans are going to retake the House or the Senate this year, I don&#8217;t think the Dems are going to expand their majority either. I would not be a bit surprised to see a new Speaker and Senate Majority Leader in January.</p>
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