MS-NBC: Biden’s earmarks a “legitimate” issue
posted at 6:58 pm on September 22, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Maybe this is Bizarro MS-NBC, or perhaps this is what happens when media outlets stop using partisan hacks as news anchors. David Schuster and James Popkin take a closer look at Joe Biden and his earmarks, which Biden has refused to itemize prior to this year — when he’s requested over $340 million in pork. Instead of an Olbermann rationalization about Biden’s earmarks somehow having the power to transform America when combined with Obamessiah-y goodness, Popkin and Schuster note the staggering hypocrisy between Barack Obama’s primary rhetoric and his defense of his running mate now:
DAVID SCHUSTER: As far as Democrat Joe Biden, the GOP has a clock running on their website counting the minutes since Republicans first called on Biden to release his earmarks, over 9 days and 23 hours. He has released his earmarks for this year but not previous. Where does Joe Biden stand on earmarks?
JIM POPKIN: Well, Joe Biden also has been an active participant in the earmark game. Just this year alone, he disclosed that he’s requested $342 million in earmarks. And what the McCain campaign, the GOP, is asking for is a more fulsome list. He’s been in Congress since 1972 and they’re asking for a list dating back over those 3 decades; his entire list of earmark requests which presumably would be much higher than the $342 million that he’s acknowledged just this year alone.
SCHUSTER: And it’s so interesting because just this past week the Washington Times wrote, in March when Mr. Obama released his 2005 and 2006 earmark requests, his communications director called on then-rival Senator Hillary Clinton to do the same. “If Senator Clinton will not agree in joining Senator Obama will not releasing her earmark requests, voters should ask why she doesn’t believe they have the right to know.” So, Jim, why doesn’t the Obama campaign believe voters have right to know about Joe Biden?
POPKIN: You know, I think it may be a legitimate question to ask. I don’t know if — any of these folks should be throwing stones. I will say, however, that Senator McCain has always said that he has never asked for any earmarks, and one of the major nonprofit groups that looks at earmarks took a look at a list that the Obama campaign prepared on some– I’ll call them alleged requests back from the early ’90s and could find kind of no compelling evidence that McCain had ever requested or received any earmarks for his state.
SCHUSTER: NBC’s Jim Popkin, thanks for coming on. Great stuff as always, we appreciate it.
Hammering Joe Biden. Acquitting John McCain. Calling out Obama for hypocrisy. Are we sure we dialed into the right cable news network?









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Cap’n Ed, have you forgotten that Schuster is a registered independent? Nyuk nyuk.
Terrie on September 22, 2008 at 7:03 PM
They will be fired, that is mutiny, asking for accountability from a Democrat?
right2bright on September 22, 2008 at 7:03 PM
MSNBC just had a momentary lapse. It will not happen again.
TooTall on September 22, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Metamorphosis has ended, we are seeing the emergence of the new creature. So far, so good. Will it stay so? Remains to be seen.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Right about now, McCain must have a tingle up his leg…
Steve Z on September 22, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Brrrr… it’s beginning to get cold here in Hell.
CliffHanger on September 22, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Ohhhhhh- talk about spending time in bizzarro world.
anniekc on September 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM
I’m not fooled.
D0WNT0WN on September 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Well I’m pretty sure we won’t be seeing him again anytime soon.
tee866 on September 22, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Makes up for Fox’s Panel on Brit hume, giving tongue baths to obama.
lorien1973 on September 22, 2008 at 7:07 PM
cliffhanger – LOLOL
that was hilarious
spacekicker on September 22, 2008 at 7:08 PM
The Kos Kidz are gonna go ape-sh*t.
Jim-Rose on September 22, 2008 at 7:08 PM
THIS is what this election would be like if the media were not soooooooo in the bag for the Messiah….if they accurately reported the news, it would be 75-25 for McCain now…MINIMUM….
SDarchitect on September 22, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Fox News alert just ran…
Large bus sighted pulling up into parking lot at 30 Rock.
/sarc
Y-not on September 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM
And gazing into the heavens, Schuster breathed his last as they stoned him under the hot studio lights.
T J Green on September 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Somewhere Olbermann and Matthews are suffering from a rage-induced stroke.
Hollowpoint on September 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Maybe they got tired of being the joke of cable news and losing money…. stranger things have happened.
Hog Wild on September 22, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Actually, this may be the first blow in weaking Biden so much that Obama has to replace him with Hillary.
great unknown on September 22, 2008 at 7:12 PM
They have to get rid of Biden for some reason. Maybe they’re compiling reasons.
JiangxiDad on September 22, 2008 at 7:12 PM
I pray not.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Damn Lorien, I was eating.
thekingtut on September 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I’m sorry. I just put my crack pipe down. What the fu-hell?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM
staggering
Not sure that is a word I would use when referring to Obama’s running mate.
tarpon on September 22, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Damn! A monkey just flew out of my ass!
saltydogg14 on September 22, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Snopes report on Biden.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 22, 2008 at 7:15 PM
“Fulsome”?
Tzetzes on September 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM
WTF? Rupert buy out MSNBC?
I almost choked on my peanut butter sandwich when I listened to this.
This is bullshit, that guy is gonna get shoveled by the rest of the employees on the way to his car after work.
He better have an exit route mapped out already.
Sapwolf on September 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Must be the first step in rolling out Hillary. She proved she can kiss O-ass when she didn’t show up at the protest.
Sapwolf on September 22, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Biden thinks FDR went on television after the 1929 stock market crash to calm the nation (as noted in a Katie Couric interview on the CBS nightly news).
This guy us supposedly qualified for Veep?
I think Abe Lincoln’s shortwave radio address from Gettyburg said it best:
“Biden is forescore a fool.”
profitsbeard on September 22, 2008 at 7:20 PM
yeah, that rumor is flying all through the intertubes. Nov. 5 is the date :)
JiangxiDad on September 22, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Just setting it up for the October Surprise.
m064404 on September 22, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Maybe Schuster was struck by Cafferty in another hit and run incident and has suffered brain damage.
drjohn on September 22, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Didn’t they get the Olberman-Matthews memo on staying in the bag for Obama?
Mr. Joe on September 22, 2008 at 7:27 PM
he needs serious protection now.. i feel sorry for the guy
stlpatriot on September 22, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Good post Ed. Tell AP to quit sitting on polls and start some real blogging.
BrianA on September 22, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Shocking! Now we wait on anyone in the MSM picking up the astroturfing scandal. I can’t find any mention of it apart from righty blogs (correct me if I am wrong).
BTW glad to see Grue back from holiday.
Everyone should Know what a grue is, IMHO
zmrzlina on September 22, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Pig that just flew by…had lipstick.
right2bright on September 22, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Honestly, does anyone in their right mind think Hillary would say yes? Anybody?
CC
CapedConservative on September 22, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Hey Ed and Allah. The Headline about the debate prep says Michael Steele will play Obama. The article has been updated and that claim has been denied.
D0WNT0WN on September 22, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Futhre to this…. headline just popped up on Druge where Bill says she didn’t want to be his running mate.
CC
CapedConservative on September 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Clearly MSNBC is racist.
rbj on September 22, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Olby with Phil Grifin will give Mr. Shuster a quick re-education session ala the godfather.
Sergei on September 22, 2008 at 7:39 PM
MSNBC trying to rebuild a trace of cred so their next round of attacks on Palin is believable.
innominatus on September 22, 2008 at 7:41 PM
People I really think it is to late to change VP’s now since 3 states opened voting today it wouldn’t be able to count those votes,and as a side note turn out was heavy in my part of the KY border that I live next to.
tee866 on September 22, 2008 at 7:41 PM
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Welcome back. Didn’t see you posting last week. Who can forget “eats”.
Mr_Magoo on September 22, 2008 at 7:42 PM
“The McCain campaign apparently believes that factual questions from reporters are inadmissable. In fact, asking factual questions is obviously bias. So that’s why they won’t answer my emails…” Andrew Sullivan http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/now-they-target.html
I am gobsmacked by Sully’s hypocrisy, Could it be Sullivan spread vicious rumors about Sarah Palin’s newborn? Then Sully questioned that she is really not pro life because she got amnio? No wonder he is persona non grata with Team McCain-Palin. He is lucky Palin’s husband doesn’t kick his butt. Heck, Sarah Palin could kick his butt.
Mr. Joe on September 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Big whoop. The left has “discovered” that Biden is NOT an asset.
The return of Hillary (after Joe gets “ill”)?????????
Squiggy on September 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Did I get hit on the head by an anvil or something???
D2Boston on September 22, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Things at NBC have changed since the Republican convention, haven’t they?
Buy Danish on September 22, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Ugh. I’m not sure I’d want to have anything to do with Sullivan’s butt – kicking or otherwise.
ManlyRash on September 22, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Is this the start of Dump-Joe-a-paloosa?
rigdown on September 22, 2008 at 7:53 PM
I’m scared. MSNBC acting impartial is too Twilight Zone for my tastes. Where’s the nearest wormhole?
Lincoln on September 22, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Those votes are not cast for Obama/Biden, but for a slate of Electors in that state who have pledged to vote for them. Rest assured that the pledge is worded such that Biden, or for that matter Obama, may withdraw and be replaced at any time before or even after “election day” but before the date in December when the Electors meet in their respective state capitals, cast their votes, and seal them for conveyance to a joint session of Congress in January for the official counting.
So if there’s an October Surprise that reshuffles the players, it’s all perfectly legal.
The Monster on September 22, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Joe Biden may be smelling the exhaust from the Obama bus that is about to back up over him.
EyesOpen on September 22, 2008 at 7:58 PM
“Reporting from Greenland, this is David Schuster.”
Akzed on September 22, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Check the driver ’cause it might be Slow Joe.
According to Politico, Biden is critical of the Obama ad slamming McCain as technologically inept.
Hitchens column to follow hypothesizing that Biden really doesn’t want to win, either.
Terrie on September 22, 2008 at 8:03 PM
“So, Jim, why doesn’t the Obama campaign believe voters have right to know about Joe Biden?”
Somewhere Keith Olbermann just squeezed his fingerprints into a wooden pencil and popped a vein in his neck.
Schuster is “so” going to the Bayonne, NJ NBC affiliate.
hawkdriver on September 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM
It’s a trap – don’t fall for it – they’ll lure you in and then **POW** – right in the kisser.
tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Olby will clean it up.
The theorists who believe Biden is soon to be replaced are looking ever more prescient.
FireBlogger on September 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM
““Reporting from Greenland, this is David Schuster.”
Akzed on September 22, 2008 at 8:02 PM”
LOL, sorry, I missed yours before I posted mine.
Just call me Joe “Xerox” Biden. ;-)
hawkdriver on September 22, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I don’t think, (just my opinion) that Hill wants VP. It makes it almost impossible for her to run for the main job. I think she is still hoping for a McCain/Palin win so she gets another shot in 12. Hell, if I were a Dem, I’d give it to her after this years showing.
hawkdriver on September 22, 2008 at 8:14 PM
OMG!
Anyone watching O’Reilly?
Some Obama supporter on there just said that Fox(and presumably O’Reilly is “portraying Obama as a “Left-wing wingnut”)
Then the Obama supporter said, Obama is a Centrist! LMAO!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Get that, He said Obama is a Centrist!
Come on now!!!!! Then he said, “they are both moving to the McCain, is to..”
This guy is a loon! McCain has always been a middle of the road Centrist, even Republicans don’t really buy it when McCain says that he’s a conservative!
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AP Sorry for hijacking.. the thread just had to say it.
Chakra Hammer on September 22, 2008 at 8:15 PM
hehehehe
tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 8:16 PM
This is the defining issue of the election for me. Energy independence a close second. FWIW
mike_NC9 on September 22, 2008 at 8:27 PM
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/693/republican-primary
Look at the picture below.. this is Obama as a Centrist!
Obama more liberal than Hillary Clinton.
http://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/693-7.gif
Chakra Hammer on September 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM
It would be for most people too. Gee, ya wonder why the media doesn’t report that democrat earmarks since 2006 -dwarf- what the republicans did prior to that?
Hmm. Wonder why?
lorien1973 on September 22, 2008 at 8:32 PM
I vote climate fraud, energy, national security, I figure the Dems in Congress are going to screw with the economy no matter what.
JEM on September 22, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Was there a frost in hell tonight?
aikidoka on September 22, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Ohhhhhhh Goodddddddd…. Now Obama’s lost MSNBC… The Palin Caliphate is upon us… Upon usssssss…
Seixon on September 22, 2008 at 8:54 PM
I think a pig just buzzed my second floor window.
Sugar Land on September 22, 2008 at 9:06 PM
This reeks of actual journalism. Oh my.
Mojave Mark on September 22, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Will wonders never cease?
Terrye on September 22, 2008 at 10:16 PM
So Obama insisted that “voters have the right to know” about a candidate’s earmak history when said candidate is Hillary. Now that it’s Joe, there’s no right to know. I believe that’s flip-flop # 31.
jgapinoy on September 22, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Choosing Hillary still means Slick tags along. That’s a big fat no-no to the Uhbamas.
Think Oprah.
fogw on September 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM
…as well as
his plagiarism,
his gaffes,
his earmarks benefiting his lobbyist son,
his daughter’s arrest,
his gun-grabbing,
his pro-abortion pseudo-Catholicism,
his zero rating from Citizens Against Gov’t Waste…
jgapinoy on September 22, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Hope they have the hired help starting their hybrids tonight!
Questions- Obiden was for Hillary right? If he was not, then maybe he could be now. So, is it possible that Biden, seeing the racist handwriting on the wall, might, just might be a plant from the Clinton camp to make sure THE ONE goes down? I guess I am now an official member of the tinfoil hat wearers, but I cannot wrap my mind around Obama picking Biden despite the dirt Biden had on him. It just does not jive. Who in the world would pick a candidate that got less votes than crazy Dennis? Biden is a gaffetastic meister and has not won anything other than his Senate seat. He failed each time he tried to branch out. I do not get it!
freeus on September 23, 2008 at 2:22 AM
If Hillary were to be given the VP slot at this late date, I’m not sure that even a substantial Obama loss would taint Hillary.
She could play it as the good soldier. That is, she gave this campaign her best shot, but Obama had so damaged himself by the time she arrived, that not even her super powers could save him.
MarkTheGreat on September 23, 2008 at 7:03 AM
They do this ONCE in a blue moon, so they can point to it and claim their fairness. It’s 1 in 1,000.
marklmail on September 23, 2008 at 8:10 AM
Uh hum… McCain vs Obama. This is an attempt to distract from that very uneven match-up. This is a red herring.
CC
CapedConservative on September 23, 2008 at 8:12 AM
This can’t be an excuse to replace Biden because Obama’s earmarks rival Biden’s for the past two years. Moreover as Obama gave earmarks to the clients of Biden’s son, how could he replace Biden when the Obamanation’s earmarks reek of corruption? The Obamanation would have to throw himself under the bus with Biden.
eaglewingz08 on September 23, 2008 at 8:59 AM