How to make a bad situation worse
posted at 5:55 pm on September 22, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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How can anyone make a financial crisis which could eat up to a trillion dollars in government funds any worse? Demanding an appetizer of $50 billion more in government spending. Democrats have assessed that as their price for supporting the biggest federal bailout in history, and Barack Obama leads the chorus:
Congressional Democrats are pushing for a new $50 billion economic-stimulus plan as a way not only to jolt the economy but also to help themselves politically in November’s elections. The plan would include new spending for infrastructure, an extension of unemployment benefits, energy assistance to lower-income families and aid to states to help pay Medicaid health-care costs for the poor. Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama touts the plan almost daily.
“This plan can’t just be a plan for Wall Street,” he told a Charlotte, N.C., audience Sunday. “It has to be a plan for Main Street. We have to come together, as Democrats and Republicans, to pass a stimulus plan that will put money in the pockets of working families, save jobs and prevent painful budget cuts and tax hikes in our states.”
Most Republicans sharply disagree. They note that negotiators from Congress and the Bush administration already are eyeing a financial-rescue package that’s estimated to cost $700 billion.
With this fiscal year’s federal budget deficit already headed over $400 billion, and next year’s likely to top that, “sooner or later there will have to be a reckoning,” said Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee.
What’s the best argument against the stimulus package? How about the complete lack of impact from the last stimulus package? Instead of offering a useful set of tax reforms that would create a real stimulus, Congress and the Bush administration handed everyone back $600 of their own money and treated it as some sort of gift. That was just a few months ago, and it did so little to fix the structural problems of the economy that now Democrats think we need another round.
The argument from the stump is that we’re bailing out Wall Street but ignoring Main Street, and so we should spend even more money in order to pander to the middle class. It’s this kind of logic that explains why we have hundreds of billions in deficit spending each year, and we face another financial catastrophe in a few years regarding entitlement spending. Instead of prioritizing spending and making tough decisions, our political class decides instead to spend money everywhere in order to look like Santa Claus to everyone.
Indeed, that’s what started this credit crisis in the first place. Politicians wanted to force lenders to take more risks in offering credit, so they passed mandates for lenders to sell mortgages to marginally qualified buyers, or in many cases flat-out unqualified borrowers. Instead of demanding fiscal responsibility from GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, they encouraged reckless behavior so that they could take credit for putting people in houses they couldn’t afford. Of course, Congress hardly serves as an example of fiscal responsibility at the best of times anyway.
Now we learn that the reckless fools who brought us the sub-prime meltdown want to keep spending money in order to make us feel “good” once again. If they really wanted to solve the problem, they would start cutting government spending in order to absorb the massive losses that taxpayers will underwrite. They could also take less of our money in the first place and perhaps end capital-gains taxes in order to encourage investors into kick-starting the economy. Congress could also take the limits off of oil exploration and extraction, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs and keeping American wealth inside America for the next few years to create more revenues to pay for the bailout.
That would be a real stimulus plan, not some one-time giveaway that does nothing to boost the economy but works to boost the populist street creds of free-spending politicians.
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bribe the vote 08
stlpatriot on September 22, 2008 at 5:57 PM
The Republicsns need to stand against the tide and say “No!”
Of course the spineless wusses won’t, but its nice to dream.
Iblis on September 22, 2008 at 5:58 PM
OMG. This country is doomed.
marklmail on September 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Why do they care, it’s not their money. If they want something stimulated I have a few suggestions for them.
bopbottle on September 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Ridiculous.
Terrye on September 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM
This needs to be repeated continuously. I spent most of the weekend on business networks (including Fox), and mostly heard that it was the fat cat businessmen who caused the problem – really teed me off.
Vashta.Nerada on September 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Great. These morons never ever never ever ever seem to think “tax cuts’, they always say more taxes as the answer to every problem.
I’m really starting to hate all these politicians.
Bishop on September 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM
AKA the “Pork Plan.”
m064404 on September 22, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Good post as usual Ed. Don’t forget about ending the death tax as well though. Some of us can’t put our things in a trust.
Les in NC on September 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM
That’s the dead spot-on winning message, Ed.
If the McCain campaign drives that home from now till election day they’ll swamp Obama.
And I suppose if they don’t, they probably don’t deserve to.
Typhoon on September 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM
We don’t need any quick fixes.the problems are in congress and senate.Barrney Frank is a moron and needs a new job.
steviedfromnc on September 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Change you can counterfeit – How’s that ring?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Note to McCain: You can fit most of Ed’s posts easily into 30 second spots that would be sure winners in educating voters. Of course, that assumes you believe them yourself, which is a big assumption, I know…..
Vashta.Nerada on September 22, 2008 at 6:07 PM
I think we should raise taxes, give almost all of it out in rebates, and kill almost every government program…
ninjapirate on September 22, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Ah, the smell of vote buying is in the air. There must be an election around the corner.
thekingtut on September 22, 2008 at 6:08 PM
When will Democrats learn that not everything is solved by giving more money away.
pb88 on September 22, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Yah, if the GOP can manage to keep their own greedy paws off the bill, this is a grand opportunity to hammer the shat out of the DFL for their porkiness.
Come on Mac, you are the anti-pig of the senate, hammer these flookwits.
Bishop on September 22, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Oh if ONLY!! PRINT THAT BABY!!
[PS: Your name makes sense to me now. And they call me hungry ;) ]
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 6:12 PM
when will democrats learn that not all problems are solved by giving away more money.
pb88 on September 22, 2008 at 6:14 PM
OT/ Hugh Hewitt is on the Youtube feasco smear right now on Salem radio Net.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 22, 2008 at 6:15 PM
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marklmail on September 22, 2008 at 6:15 PM
I see no reason to give money to the same people on main street who got THEMSELVES into a mortgage they couldn’t afford. My wife and I have bought and sold four homes since 1992. The last two were ARM’s. We could have afforded homes twice the cost of what we purchased, but we only bought homes in the price range where I could afford the payment if the interest rate went up to the contract cap. Consequently, we were in good shape as the rates went up and until we could get into a fixed rate loan.
So I say screw the people who wanted it both ways. Let them suffer their own consequences.
csdeven on September 22, 2008 at 6:15 PM
The lenders want to blame congress for forcing them to offer loans to unqualified applicants, yet we hear over and over how Dodd, Omaba, Schumer & Crew are bought and paid for by these lenders. If these lenders didn’t like making these loans, wouldn’t their puppets in congress put a stop to it?
I don’t know who to blame anymore. I hate them all.
innominatus on September 22, 2008 at 6:16 PM
That’s the answer, Dims. Keep spending massive amounts of money that we don’t have.
Idiots.
AZCoyote on September 22, 2008 at 6:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism
A Plan to Replace the Welfare State
The government should give every American $10,000–and nothing more.
Charles Murray
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008142
ninjapirate on September 22, 2008 at 6:16 PM
I may regret this, but…. what???
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 6:17 PM
There are forces working in unison in this country trying to bring the economy of this nation to a halt. Then they will rebuild it in the way so the masses will have no choice, but to be lead as they see fit for their economic existence. Power over the people instead of power to the people is coming and the voters follow llike sheep. The greatness of our nation is under attack by our own people who cannot comprehend the reality of what is happening.
volsense on September 22, 2008 at 6:17 PM
GOOGLE: SAUL ALINSKY BARRACK OBAMA LUCIFER
volsense on September 22, 2008 at 6:19 PM
That friggin buffoon Barney Frank said today that “The private sector got us into this mess. The government will have to get us out of it.” Pardon me while I puke on the keyboard.
BARNEY FRANK AND CHRIS DODD FACILITATED THIS FIASCO AND NOW WANT US TO GIVE THEM MORE POWER TO “FIX” IT?
Ugh.
Sugar Land on September 22, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Obama and the rest of those brain impaired Democrats are at best socialists and they’re going to destroy this once great nation if we don’t stop them. If you were wondering where communism went lurking when it was destroyed in Europe, you need look no farther than the halls of the U.S. congress.
rplat on September 22, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Wasn’t it the Democrats that were yelling the loudest this spring that Bush was trying to “BUY” votes…and that the stimulus wouldn’t work?
…well, WTF Dems?
I believe medicaid…does enough for illegal aliens…those that work hard and get paid little don’t get the benefit…
and isn’t ol’ Hugo taking care of the heating oil for the poor…my head is going to explode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
HornetSting on September 22, 2008 at 6:22 PM
I live in Indiana. I just got polled (not in the good way) by an Obama supporter here. Even though I’m deathly sick with Salmonella poisoning (or some other vile sickness), I was still able to school this tool. She alleged that I was a “rich” white person (although she, herself, is white). I could tell she was sitting by a computer pulling up talking points. Ugh.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 22, 2008 at 6:23 PM
This is why I agree with Glenn Beck today. Republicans: you need to get yourselves out of the stockmarket. Keep your money in the banks so as to not cause a financial collapse. If you must invest, heed the words of the Chinese and find a viable market to sustain your investment income outside of the USA market.
Once you realize that Russia, China, and the Middle East are going to squeeze us for oil and you sit back watching the Democrats’ euphoria over $5.00 to $6.00 a gallon gas prices and no resolution coming from Congress or the WH, no advocation to drill internally, you’ll understand that Carter/Mondale have come upon us again. Expect another Iranian Crisis to go along with this economic disaster.
Two months after Obama issues the tax relief to ALL Americans as promised, the 40% who got their $500.00 tax credit for not paying taxes deposit it in their checking accounts, go out to buy a couple cases of beer, and pay for their car gas bills will be those same Americans who will be saying, ‘Where did my tax relief go?’ On the third month a large amount of taxpayers will see their tax relief come in the form of pink slips as their companies decide to downsize and not reinvest in a Bear Market teetering on economic recession. You might want to add another bail out or two. You can start with Washington Mutual.
Sultry Beauty on September 22, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Sorry Grue but I’m a two finger typist and I wanted to get that out. It’s about the Palin smear by Winners last night being put on YouTube then pulled when people started to squawk. Go to Ace or Jawa for info. Bambis camp more than likey had a hand it the smear. “Astroturfing” Palin.
1GooDDaDDy on September 22, 2008 at 6:24 PM
I have some tar and a bag of feathers if anyone is interested…………
Seven Percent Solution on September 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Some conspiracy theorists are going to put together that this was all a giant financial flim-flam to bring down the U.S.
This is more economic damage than done by bin Laden and gang.
(Where is George Soros? What did he gain or lose in all this?)
++++++++++++++++
The Democrats actually love this nationalization of the financial markets. It is a dream come true for them.
If the Government can take over all the house mortgages, why can’t the Government nationalize the auto industry, the telecommunications industry (control the internet, tap the phones), nationalize the Health care industry and everything else.
You put socialist Obama and a socialist-led Democratic congress in Washington and it is the end of the U.S.
To quote the Pogo comic strip; “We have met the enemy and they are us”.
albill on September 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM
How we got into this mess? Wisdom from one of the wisest men evah.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 22, 2008 at 6:27 PM
LOL… but Obama is going to give 95% of Americans Tax relief… by bribeing us to vote for him with $1000 check, of our own money… but then raise all the business taxes so we’ll give more than that back to the government over the next few years…
Romeo13 on September 22, 2008 at 6:27 PM
The Awful truth is that, in this ‘new world order’ we, the American Public by a global elite have effectively been commodified for what from our life’s labors can be taxed from us.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on September 22, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Democrats love rebates because a) they are risky to vote against, b) they know that most people are in favor of getting money and, most importantly c) the rebates go to people completely out of proportion to what they paid in. In other words, a “rebate” is simply a more subtle form of income redistribution.
If you have moderate income and a few kids, you’re probably in danger of winding up in the black for federal income tax for last year.
The idea of another rebate makes me ill.
Immolate on September 22, 2008 at 6:27 PM
If you can make any money….if Obama raises biz taxes…we won’t have job to pay for Socialist/Marxist government. We will be eating newspaper and drinking rain water.
HornetSting on September 22, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Hmm, I guess Odimbulb was NOT lying, when he said this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjzb61wfyN0
It IS his committee, lock stock and $$… oy.
pambi on September 22, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Sounds like someone’s been reading Newt or vice-versa…
Before D.C. Gets Our Money, It Owes Us Some Answers
batter on September 22, 2008 at 6:35 PM
How about the complete lack of impact from the last stimulus package?
I thought there were a few economic indicators that grew over the recent summer period, just as they were predicted to do after feeling the effects of the first stimulus packge.
PresidenToor on September 22, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Why doesn’t the government just take away our paychecks?! Taxes, taxes for this and that. Enough! The republicans better wake up and stop this socialism. Cuba is 90 miles away, were not living in Cuba last time I checked.
jencab on September 22, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Great post!!
becki51758 on September 22, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I saw Obama on TV – he said “the first thing I’m going to do is give every family $1,000″
I know he did well with his autobiographies and all – but I never realized he had that much money!! And so willing to share – he really is the Generous One!
Steve_Roberts on September 22, 2008 at 6:41 PM
It’s deja vu all over again.
tru2tx on September 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Obama: You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.
Earth to Obama: What animal does PORK come from?
Steve Z on September 22, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Ed, it’s a nice story to say this crisis started because Congress forced lenders to lend to low income housing folks, but the simple fact is that it isn’t true. It is really annoying for you to constantly parrot this as though it is. Lenders weren’t for the most part lending because they had to. They were doing it because the market was hot. This idea that Congress forced lenders to lend to low income areas and this started the crisis is laughable. It didn’t happen. I have been in the business for almost seven years. None of this happened because of that. It was pure greed. Quit perpetuating this lie. There is no evidence that one lead to the other.
mike volpe on September 22, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Lower the Corporate Tax!
Lower the Capitol Gains Tax!
That will attract MORE investment into OUR markets from home and abroad.
It will give us MORE revenues, CUT Spending!
Limit some of these bailouts, don’t be so excessive.. (with the bailouts, limit it)
Chakra Hammer on September 22, 2008 at 6:46 PM
The DEMS and REPUBS love to bribe the vote…the most hilarious part is they often do it with our own money.
Jamson64 on September 22, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Barack Obama: YES WE CAN BUY YOUR VOTE.
BITTER PEOPLE OF THE WORLD UNITE, THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO LOSE ARE YOUR GUNS AND RELIGION.
IN EXCHANGE I WILL LOVE YOU AND GIVE YOU CASH FROM RICH PEOPLE.
KEEP HOPE ALIVE.
Mr. Joe on September 22, 2008 at 6:47 PM
I’m not a socialist – I believe in free markets – but let’s face it, the oil company profits have been obscene!! Hence it’s only fair to tax those “wind falls.”
Then again, the ones who have really been hurt are the auto companies – they are losing big time. Hence the wind-fall profits tax should go to the auto makers.
Another industry that has been hurt is the lodging industry. People are simply not travelling as much as they did before – they are staying home, watching TV. Ad revenues are up. TV companies are profiting unjustly – not by innovation but simply as a result of our hardship. Those “excess” profits should be seized, and provided as relief for the lodging industry.
And have you seen WalMart’s profits? Through the roof! While other retailers suffer! Yes, some of those profits need to go to local retailers – we should set up a gov’t commission to ensure proper redistribution.
Can I stop now?
Steve_Roberts on September 22, 2008 at 6:48 PM
As you were.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Steve- I was getting a little worried but I finally caught the sarcasm
Jamson64 on September 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM
The “bailout” is actually a cover-up – or money paper-over- to get the people’s attention off those in government responsible for utterly failing the people with these fiscal follies.
profitsbeard on September 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Send all your money to the government and they will return some portion, maybe, after determining what amount you actually need.
From each according to his (or her) ability – to each according to his or her need. That’s only fair. And, as Americans, we must be fair. (America is at present just a downright mean place.)
Steve_Roberts on September 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM
No they were doing it because they made money for each loan that they sold, they work off of commission..
So every sucker that they can trick into a Ninja Loan, they get paid for it.
Also, maybe you should learn the laws that congress passed before telling someone that they don’t know what they are talking about..
Chakra Hammer on September 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Hey Barry, put down your violin and take a look at Rome burning. If you’re not going to help repair the damage, at least stop advocating making the problem worse.
Mallard T. Drake on September 22, 2008 at 6:52 PM
The Damn Donks are dancing on the corpse of the good ol U.S.A.
It’s grab a root n growl time. Check your ammo boys. It’s soon to be rainin’ pain.
ronsfi on September 22, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Anecdotal, but for what it’s worth- A family in my neighborhood, father works for a major corporation, their home went into foreclosure last spring- the family has filed for bankruptcy- both mom and dad drive cars, (probably leased) that are valued well over 50,000 each, and now they are renting another home in the neighborhood for 2600.00 a month. They still belong to “the club”, they still eat in nice restaurants; Do you want to bail their butts out of their “crisis”? I for sure, don’t.
I know there are people who genuinly need help- how do you determine which one’s they are? What’s “fair”? What about all the people who just bought bigger than their paycheck because they wanted to jump on the big equity bandwagon?
anniekc on September 22, 2008 at 6:59 PM
The Democrats today announced that as part of the stimulus/recovery package, every adult will immediately receive $5,000.
All children will, however, become indentured servants of the Chinese starting in about, oh, say 10 years.
Steve_Roberts on September 22, 2008 at 7:00 PM
I just think we need to all go to Washington and throw all of them out of Congress by any means needed,seems to me our founding fathers did it with a tea party maybe we need to do it again.This is just getting nuts now.
tee866 on September 22, 2008 at 7:03 PM
I HAVE THE SOLUTION
There are approx 300 million legal US residents.
Apparently the govt has 700 billion dollars to spend.
Give 23,333 to every legal US resident.
We would do a helluva lot better with it than the dumba$$ politicians that caused this whole mess in the first place.
JustTruth101 on September 22, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Seriously, though, this will go down in history as the biggest screw up this plant has ever seen. Are we witnessing the end of capitalism?
JustTruth101 on September 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Seriously. All I’ve been hearing from the McCain campaign is “Wall Street greed, blah blah blah.” It’s almost as if he doesn’t want to seize this issue. And the worst thing is, of course, that the true nature of this crisis goes completely unreported. If the only thing most people hear is “Wall Street greed” then most people will believe that Wall St. greed is indeed the problem.
holygoat on September 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM
(planet) not plant, sorry
JustTruth101 on September 22, 2008 at 7:06 PM
This election is all about bribery. I listened to Obama being interviewed on the Michael Baisden show, on “Foxy 95,” a black R&B station. He said that under his plan, 95% of the people would get a tax rebate, but it would be “more like 98% of the people listening” to that show.
Star20 on September 22, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Seeing Pelosi and Franks just now flanked by fellow Democrats, no Republicans, yak about NO DEAL without ad-ons combined with Obummer piling his pork on I’m finally scared.
Not that I was fearless before but at least I thought there was hope these fools would set politics aside and get a deal done.
Get some cash in hand folks.
FireBlogger on September 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Eventually we will all bow to our Chinese masters.
anniekc on September 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM
In the real world, grown ups find ways to cut expenses and re-order their priorities so that they can meet their obligations. This practice is called responsibility. One does not require an Ivy League degree to understand the concept.
obladioblada on September 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Meh – the bailout of Wall Street is a bailout of Main Street, unfortunately. With house prices falling, most people are already taking less into retirement if they downsize. Whack their retirement savings & accounts too and Main Street is now a ghost town.
rhodeymark on September 22, 2008 at 7:15 PM
The democrats are on offense. They have successfully push off any responsibility for the market panic onto Bush and McCain. They have successfully steered the argument off track, into an area where they can win.
McCain, and conservative Republicans don’t yet understand what the argument is about, and are focused on the ‘bailout’ of Wall Street.
Bush has to do three things:
Restore normal trading activities on Wall Street by buying up toxic derivatives no one else wants to own.
Identify the government policies which lead us to this precipice and who is responsible for enacting those policies.
Bush is not effective in making his case that his administration tried several times to change circumstances that were leading the US to this point. He is not making any effort to defend himself or his administration thus allowing the democrats free had to place the blame on republicans.
McCain has no clue.
If you review the other threads here on HotAir, and On Ms. Malkin’s site you can see comments that steer the argument away from those responsible, away from the real reason the markets are in a state of panic, and you can see arguments over the arcane details of how to fix the problem.
rockhauler on September 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM
anniekc on September 22, 2008 at 6:59 PM
And don’t forget about all the speculators who let homes go into foreclosure.
genso on September 22, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Good grief, what the hell is the matter with these people? I’m so mad right now I can’t even see straight. I’m sick of these democrats, they will be the downfall of this wonderful country.
jewells45 on September 22, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Sums up his problems for 8 years, perfectly.
And you are right, McCain doesn’t seem to have the ability to stop this either.
lorien1973 on September 22, 2008 at 7:24 PM
My math was wrong…I think.
700 billion divided by 300,000,000 citizens = $2333 each.
700 billion divided by 141,401,636 2007 taxpayers = $4950 each…on top of what we ALREADY PAY.
Where is Mitt Romney on this? What does he say?
JustTruth101 on September 22, 2008 at 7:27 PM
But the greedy ones weren’t just those making the loans, it was those taking the loans too.
Caveat Emptor, none of this whiney a$$ “don’t blame the victims” crap. If your parents didn’t teach you that a deal that looks to good to be true wasn’t true then shame on them.
rockhead on September 22, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Nightmare on Main Street.
They must be stopped.
Buy Danish on September 22, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Sarah talk your boss into picking up Eds’ great post and talk him into pointing out over and over he and W. tried to regulate the Fannies and Freddies and the Dems including 0Bomber blocked them at every turn.
Come on Sarah we’re counting on you talk to the old guy.
He doesn’t get it but we know you do, you go girl!
dhunter on September 22, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Obama’s solution appears to be a bait and switch tactic. I’m now more curious why he is proposing a comfort food when we need to go on a diet, I’m highly suspicious of this man and the Democratic leadership on this issue.
EyesOpen on September 22, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Permanent tax cuts stimulate me. Try that one, Barry.
Ronnie on September 22, 2008 at 7:37 PM
This will go down as the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. The solcialist agenda is coming to be.
Alden Pyle on September 22, 2008 at 7:40 PM
You say you’re “in the business”? What business would that be?
Why would a bank lend money to someone who can’t pay it back? Unless they were forced to, that is?
Squiggy on September 22, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Ya think?
FireBlogger on September 22, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Back in the 1990s a sibling worked at Fannie Mae. At the time, Frank’s boyfriend had a highly lucrative “consulting job” with the organization despite no discernible skills in the finance/mortgage industry. It wasn’t much of a secret that this was essentially a way to pay off an influential member of Congress. Frank has some nerve lisping about the private sector causing this mess when he clearly is guilty of taking favors from an organization whose legislation originated in his committee.
highhopes on September 22, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Free beer, cheerleaders, and male strippers for everyone!
Mr_Magoo on September 22, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Alden Pyle on September 22, 2008 at 7:40 PM
We have been falling into socialism since the New Deal. That is why this election is so important. We can’t let the Dems control the WH and Congress.
genso on September 22, 2008 at 8:19 PM
I thought that this all started in the Clinton administration and the banks were being threatened by Janet Reno that they would be prosecuted for redlining if they didn’t approve subprime loans. That’s what Rush said today on his show and I’d have to believe Rush Limbaugh before someone named mike volpe.
I’ve also read that it was an effort to win votes for the Dems in 2000 from the sub prime electorate.
It all makes sense to me. The “hot market” was a result of the banks being forced into the subprime market. Greed may have been the after affect but not the cause. Am I daft?
Mr_Magoo on September 22, 2008 at 8:20 PM
IMO, we have also been fighting against isolationism for the past decades, which was also prevalent before the attack on Pearl Harbor. I was stunned to see news reels this weekend in an FDR documentary showing people picketing in front of the White House saying “We don’t want Europe’s sticking war!” (paraphrased) I thought Vietnam was the first war where Americans picketed against the war.
Mr_Magoo on September 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Mr_Magoo on September 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM
So true. The worse thing for socialists/communists is to have a global business model. It is one of the problems that the ChiComs are dealing with now as they allow more foreigners in to conduct business. Not only do they lose their stranglehold on the minds of their countrymen, but, they are also losing their culture. I think they are becoming perplexed.
It seems that Obama is trying to raise the flag of isolationism again here as well.
genso on September 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM
The boat to Cuba is leaving, and you’ll have to stop yammering and run to catch it!
landlines on September 22, 2008 at 9:04 PM
This is the worst possible way to start “fixing” the problem!!! If the goal is liquidity, you can achieve liquidity by buying only good investments!!!
Let those who caused the problem by their own irresponsibility eat the bad investments.
landlines on September 22, 2008 at 9:11 PM
What is a stimulus check? I’ve never seen one. Not everyone got some of their money back. For most people. they got a pittance of their money. A teaser. Enough to buy groceries and gas for a month. What a crock. And congress want to do it again.
Can anyone say “Buy the Votes?”
pullingmyhairout on September 22, 2008 at 9:18 PM
I am from the government and I’m here to help.
Fuquay Steve on September 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Well hopfully this will effect most others as it has us. Write to congress. Does anyone have emails? Flood your own guys but especially Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Barack Obama and Joe Biden. I don’t have addresses and have to run right now.
This is only the begining of what this is going to cost in the long run. Are all those houses coming up for sale? Good bye equity. It’s more of a hit than we know right now. I bet homeowners are the same people who pay taxes.
Keep your stinking blood money Obama! Give back all that money Fannie gave your Senate campaign. It’s payoff money for letting these guys off without trial.
If we encourage our reps to stand up they will! No more stimulus money the bail out is ENOUGH!
If there was enough of a fuss we might could turn leadership back to Rs at least THIS didn’t happen when they were in control.
petunia on September 22, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Update on Florida Rally for McCain/Palin Blogger attended Photos added. Florida pretty enthusiastic about McCain/Palin.
http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/palin-power-under-hot-florida-sun/
Dr Evil on September 22, 2008 at 9:36 PM
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