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		<title>By: &#187; Has Obama&#8217;s chief media strategist been a naughty boy? UPDATED ClobberBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Has Obama&#8217;s chief media strategist been a naughty boy? UPDATED ClobberBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the cover-up begins ~ Riehl World View: Did Obama fund web-based smear campaign targeting Palin?  ~ Hot Air: Corporate sock puppetry for Team Obama? ~ Wizbang: Mowing Down the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the cover-up begins ~ Riehl World View: Did Obama fund web-based smear campaign targeting Palin?  ~ Hot Air: Corporate sock puppetry for Team Obama? ~ Wizbang: Mowing Down the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama and His Astroturfing Smears : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama and His Astroturfing Smears : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Matters yawns and says &#8220;Even if the Obama team was involved, so what?&#8221; Ed Morrissey at Hot Air, on the other hand, offers a noteworthy assessment: If all of this is true and the Obama campaign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Matters yawns and says &#8220;Even if the Obama team was involved, so what?&#8221; Ed Morrissey at Hot Air, on the other hand, offers a noteworthy assessment: If all of this is true and the Obama campaign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Independent View &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama and his astroturfing smears</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Independent View &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama and his astroturfing smears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yawns and says &#8220;Even if the Obama team was involved, so what?&#8221;&#160; Ed Morrissey at Hot Air, on the other hand, offers a noteworthy assessment: If all of this is true and the Obama campaign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yawns and says &#8220;Even if the Obama team was involved, so what?&#8221;&nbsp; Ed Morrissey at Hot Air, on the other hand, offers a noteworthy assessment: If all of this is true and the Obama campaign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Starboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Six Degrees Of Separation...&lt;/strong&gt;

We always knew that Team Hussein was ultimately behind the gargantuan smear campaign against Alaska Governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.&#160; Just as we always knew that they maintained a substantial multi-layer barrier of insulat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Six Degrees Of Separation&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>We always knew that Team Hussein was ultimately behind the gargantuan smear campaign against Alaska Governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.&nbsp; Just as we always knew that they maintained a substantial multi-layer barrier of insulat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Video Done Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video Done Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cameras in hand; they also produce longer ads just for the Web. Amateurs play the game, too. So do professionals who want people to think they are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Obama talks change, practices smear campaigns &#8212; Obama&#8217;s Con</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama talks change, practices smear campaigns &#8212; Obama&#8217;s Con</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am trying to juggle a number of things right now, but on the off chance you are unaware of the work Rusty Shackleford has done into the efforts to smear Sarah Palin I wanted to note this handy summary by Hot Air: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am trying to juggle a number of things right now, but on the off chance you are unaware of the work Rusty Shackleford has done into the efforts to smear Sarah Palin I wanted to note this handy summary by Hot Air: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: justincase</title>
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		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, just one other question. (Thanks for being so patient with me. =)

When is neglect, abuse, or murder a FEDERAL crime - under the jurisdiction of FEDERAL investigators not bound to the Herbst-O&#039;Malley Agreement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, just one other question. (Thanks for being so patient with me. =)</p>
<p>When is neglect, abuse, or murder a FEDERAL crime &#8211; under the jurisdiction of FEDERAL investigators not bound to the Herbst-O&#8217;Malley Agreement?</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I have two law degrees. The first one was with honors from a Top Ten school almost thirty years ago. The second is in tax law.

jim m on September 22, 2008 at 5:55 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, sure...you didn&#039;t know what the word advocate meant.
Must have been to taxing...</description>
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I have two law degrees. The first one was with honors from a Top Ten school almost thirty years ago. The second is in tax law.</p>
<p>jim m on September 22, 2008 at 5:55 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, sure&#8230;you didn&#8217;t know what the word advocate meant.<br />
Must have been to taxing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: justincase</title>
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		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also one other thing, reading the Federal BAIPA, they actually used Illinois&#039; definition of &quot;person&quot;, which had no requirement for viability. How, then, can Illinois refuse to prosecute the neglect of pre-viable children (for instance, not providing comfort care, throwing them in the laundry, etc)? How is that any different than refusing to prosecute crimes against Blacks in former years?

I just can&#039;t understand how that agreement not to prosecute can in any way be legal - Constitutionally speaking. I wonder if it&#039;s ever been challenged on Constitutional grounds.

Barack Obama says the IL BAIPA would have been unconstitutional because it would give legal personhood to pre-viable children (the same argument NARAL had until the Federal BAIPA excluded any impact on abortion &quot;rights&quot;) - but IL law already does that, correct? Is Obama saying that IL law is unconstitutional because it undermines Roe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also one other thing, reading the Federal BAIPA, they actually used Illinois&#8217; definition of &#8220;person&#8221;, which had no requirement for viability. How, then, can Illinois refuse to prosecute the neglect of pre-viable children (for instance, not providing comfort care, throwing them in the laundry, etc)? How is that any different than refusing to prosecute crimes against Blacks in former years?</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t understand how that agreement not to prosecute can in any way be legal &#8211; Constitutionally speaking. I wonder if it&#8217;s ever been challenged on Constitutional grounds.</p>
<p>Barack Obama says the IL BAIPA would have been unconstitutional because it would give legal personhood to pre-viable children (the same argument NARAL had until the Federal BAIPA excluded any impact on abortion &#8220;rights&#8221;) &#8211; but IL law already does that, correct? Is Obama saying that IL law is unconstitutional because it undermines Roe?</p>
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		<title>By: justincase</title>
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		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

That was the general idea I had. Roe v Wade says that legal personhood cannot exist before birth. If the judiciary defines &quot;birth&quot; as the mother&#039;s intent for the child to live, then wouldn&#039;t the constitutional requirement for legal personhood be, at the very least, birth - that is, the mother&#039;s intent?

BAIPA says that since Congress is supposed to count persons, it is up to them to define the word &quot;person&quot;, but it sounds like the SCOTUS in Roe gave a specific parameter within which Congress had to define it - specifically requiring the person to be &quot;born&quot; in order to be a legal person. 

If the judiciary had already ruled that the Constitutional definiton of &quot;born&quot; referred to mother&#039;s intent rather than location of the child (as they did in PP v Farmer BEFORE BAIPA passed), wouldn&#039;t Congress be bound by that Constitutional definition of &quot;birth&quot;, which is a prerequisite for legal personhood as per Roe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>That was the general idea I had. Roe v Wade says that legal personhood cannot exist before birth. If the judiciary defines &#8220;birth&#8221; as the mother&#8217;s intent for the child to live, then wouldn&#8217;t the constitutional requirement for legal personhood be, at the very least, birth &#8211; that is, the mother&#8217;s intent?</p>
<p>BAIPA says that since Congress is supposed to count persons, it is up to them to define the word &#8220;person&#8221;, but it sounds like the SCOTUS in Roe gave a specific parameter within which Congress had to define it &#8211; specifically requiring the person to be &#8220;born&#8221; in order to be a legal person. </p>
<p>If the judiciary had already ruled that the Constitutional definiton of &#8220;born&#8221; referred to mother&#8217;s intent rather than location of the child (as they did in PP v Farmer BEFORE BAIPA passed), wouldn&#8217;t Congress be bound by that Constitutional definition of &#8220;birth&#8221;, which is a prerequisite for legal personhood as per Roe?</p>
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		<title>By: jim m</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, in the Illinois situation, the definitions can&#039;t be read by themselves.  The courts would have to look at other parts of the consent decree to see what sections of the original law were meant to be changed.

It looks like the Farmer decision applied to a New Jersey statute that was virtually identical to a Nebraska statute that the US Supreme Court struck down.  I don&#039;t think the Farmer decision would affect an Illinois statute or its interpretation unless the Illinois statute was virtually identical to the Nebraska statute.

Criminal laws are mostly created by legistlation (statutes) by states, although there are some federal criminal statutes.  State constitutions &quot;trump&quot; state legislation and the US consitution &quot;trumps&quot; both state and US federal criminal statutes.  In other words, the statute is struck down in whole or in part if it conflicts with the applicable constitution or constitutions.  So, what&#039;s that mean? Take a look at the D.C. gun case this summer that was decided by the US Supreme Court.  In that case, the US Supreme Court sent back to a lower court the D.C. law prohibiting the private ownership of guns because the US Supreme Court decided that the D.C. law conflicted with the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Hope this helps a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, in the Illinois situation, the definitions can&#8217;t be read by themselves.  The courts would have to look at other parts of the consent decree to see what sections of the original law were meant to be changed.</p>
<p>It looks like the Farmer decision applied to a New Jersey statute that was virtually identical to a Nebraska statute that the US Supreme Court struck down.  I don&#8217;t think the Farmer decision would affect an Illinois statute or its interpretation unless the Illinois statute was virtually identical to the Nebraska statute.</p>
<p>Criminal laws are mostly created by legistlation (statutes) by states, although there are some federal criminal statutes.  State constitutions &#8220;trump&#8221; state legislation and the US consitution &#8220;trumps&#8221; both state and US federal criminal statutes.  In other words, the statute is struck down in whole or in part if it conflicts with the applicable constitution or constitutions.  So, what&#8217;s that mean? Take a look at the D.C. gun case this summer that was decided by the US Supreme Court.  In that case, the US Supreme Court sent back to a lower court the D.C. law prohibiting the private ownership of guns because the US Supreme Court decided that the D.C. law conflicted with the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.</p>
<p>Hope this helps a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Buy Danish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buy Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Malkin has an update to this story, with a response from&lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Ethan Winner&lt;/a&gt; (scroll down...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Malkin has an update to this story, with a response from<a href="http://michellemalkin.com/" rel="nofollow"> Ethan Winner</a> (scroll down&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: cannonball</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannonball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... that&#039;s a lot of reading that Rusty has generated. I pored through most of it and it tells a good story. However, it is far too complex for anyone in the MSM to take seriously. It will be buried, it won&#039;t see the light of day. Obama is the teflon candidate.

The debates will make/break this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; that&#8217;s a lot of reading that Rusty has generated. I pored through most of it and it tells a good story. However, it is far too complex for anyone in the MSM to take seriously. It will be buried, it won&#8217;t see the light of day. Obama is the teflon candidate.</p>
<p>The debates will make/break this election.</p>
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		<title>By: The Write Side of My Brain » Evidence suggests Obama campaign advisor behind viscious lies about Palin</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Write Side of My Brain » Evidence suggests Obama campaign advisor behind viscious lies about Palin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HotAir: Corporate sockpuppetry for Team Obama? Could this be true?  Normally, one would shrug off such a suggestion by saying that no national campaign would be dumb enough to try this, especially one ahead in the polls.  However, consider what Team Obama did to Stanley Kurtz and David Freddoso.  They don’t seem hesitant in the least to conduct smear campaigns and character assassination to win elections, and they conducted those two attacks openly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] HotAir: Corporate sockpuppetry for Team Obama? Could this be true?  Normally, one would shrug off such a suggestion by saying that no national campaign would be dumb enough to try this, especially one ahead in the polls.  However, consider what Team Obama did to Stanley Kurtz and David Freddoso.  They don’t seem hesitant in the least to conduct smear campaigns and character assassination to win elections, and they conducted those two attacks openly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: christene</title>
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		<dc:creator>christene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words matter.Obama the &lt;strong&gt;liar&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: The Further Adventures of Xenophobia, Warrior Princess &#171; his vorpal sword</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Further Adventures of Xenophobia, Warrior Princess &#171; his vorpal sword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] www.redstate.com, Hot Air, Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications, Gateway Pundit, Michelle Malkin, Pajamas Media, Wizbang, The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.redstate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.redstate.com</a>, Hot Air, Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications, Gateway Pundit, Michelle Malkin, Pajamas Media, Wizbang, The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: electric-rascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>electric-rascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, I screwed up the blockquote tag:

Here&#039;s my chant of late (in present tense):

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The media lies, America dies.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, I screwed up the blockquote tag:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my chant of late (in present tense):</p>
<p><em><strong>The media lies, America dies.</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: electric-rascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>electric-rascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Now it’s time for us to have some fun, and there actually seems to be something to follow here, unlike “Bush lied, people died.”

flutejpl on September 22, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Here&#039;s my chant of late (in present tense):

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The media lies, America dies.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Now it’s time for us to have some fun, and there actually seems to be something to follow here, unlike “Bush lied, people died.”</p>
<p>flutejpl on September 22, 2008 at 8:54 AM<br />
Here&#8217;s my chant of late (in present tense):</p>
<p><em><strong>The media lies, America dies.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: justincase</title>
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		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That kind of gets to the SNL skit a little bit though, doesn&#039;t it? We don&#039;t *know* that Todd Palin didn&#039;t commit incest with his daughters so if we claim it we can&#039;t be accused of libel. Is that how the laws work? 

These people would only have had to call the AIP to know that the claim was false. Is there some sort of reasonable diligence required, or can people make up lies wholesale without libeling anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kind of gets to the SNL skit a little bit though, doesn&#8217;t it? We don&#8217;t *know* that Todd Palin didn&#8217;t commit incest with his daughters so if we claim it we can&#8217;t be accused of libel. Is that how the laws work? </p>
<p>These people would only have had to call the AIP to know that the claim was false. Is there some sort of reasonable diligence required, or can people make up lies wholesale without libeling anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: justincase</title>
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		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Jim, this is off-topic but pertains to our discussion Friday. What did you mean when you said that the definitions didn&#039;t have to be adhered to, in the agreement not to enforce IL&#039;s abortion law?

Another question deals with PP v Farmer, where it was ruled that &quot;birth&quot; refers to the mother&#039;s intention, not to the actual location of the child. That was a constitutional decision, right? If the judiciary has already defined &quot;born&quot; in a Constitutional sense and Congress gives a different definition, what happens if an abortion survivor is suffocated to death? If a criminal case was filed, could the defendant appeal on Constitutional grounds?

I don&#039;t understand the relationship between Constitutional law and criminal law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Jim, this is off-topic but pertains to our discussion Friday. What did you mean when you said that the definitions didn&#8217;t have to be adhered to, in the agreement not to enforce IL&#8217;s abortion law?</p>
<p>Another question deals with PP v Farmer, where it was ruled that &#8220;birth&#8221; refers to the mother&#8217;s intention, not to the actual location of the child. That was a constitutional decision, right? If the judiciary has already defined &#8220;born&#8221; in a Constitutional sense and Congress gives a different definition, what happens if an abortion survivor is suffocated to death? If a criminal case was filed, could the defendant appeal on Constitutional grounds?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand the relationship between Constitutional law and criminal law.</p>
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		<title>By: jim m</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, for public figures, they would have to show that the Winners knew that the statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, for public figures, they would have to show that the Winners knew that the statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity.</p>
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		<title>By: justincase</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/corporate-sockpuppetry-for-team-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1446870</link>
		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, if it was proven that the Winners posted these known falsehoods, would they be vulnerable to a libel suit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, if it was proven that the Winners posted these known falsehoods, would they be vulnerable to a libel suit?</p>
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		<title>By: jim m</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/corporate-sockpuppetry-for-team-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1446556</link>
		<dc:creator>jim m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two law degrees.  The first one was with honors from a Top Ten school almost thirty years ago.  The second is in tax law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two law degrees.  The first one was with honors from a Top Ten school almost thirty years ago.  The second is in tax law.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/corporate-sockpuppetry-for-team-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1446532</link>
		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Right2bright, I haven’t seen the video, but if the video doesn’t say something about defeating Palin, it might be difficult to have “the electoral portion of the communication being unmistakable, unambiguous, and suggestive of only one meaning”.

jim m on September 22, 2008 at 5:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Let it go jimmy.
You are advocating a position that is indefensible.  The proximity alone, the relationship as a campaign producer of material for the opposition, the obvious attempt at destroying a candidates image, and more...you tire me out with your foolish posts.  You know what the attempt was, and so will any reasonable mind...but not a mind that is made up to defend.
bye-bye, let me know when you get your law degree...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Right2bright, I haven’t seen the video, but if the video doesn’t say something about defeating Palin, it might be difficult to have “the electoral portion of the communication being unmistakable, unambiguous, and suggestive of only one meaning”.</p>
<p>jim m on September 22, 2008 at 5:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Let it go jimmy.<br />
You are advocating a position that is indefensible.  The proximity alone, the relationship as a campaign producer of material for the opposition, the obvious attempt at destroying a candidates image, and more&#8230;you tire me out with your foolish posts.  You know what the attempt was, and so will any reasonable mind&#8230;but not a mind that is made up to defend.<br />
bye-bye, let me know when you get your law degree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marklmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>marklmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever see a more slimy, shifty, greaseball than Axelrod?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever see a more slimy, shifty, greaseball than Axelrod?</p>
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