Quotes of the day
posted at 9:52 pm on September 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“The problem, as far as our political process is concerned, is that half the electorate revels in Palin’s lack of intellectual qualifications. When it comes to politics, there is a mad love of mediocrity in this country. ‘They think they’re better than you!’ is the refrain that (highly competent and cynical) Republican strategists have set loose among the crowd, and the crowd has grown drunk on it once again. ‘Sarah Palin is an ordinary person!’ Yes, all too ordinary…
Ask yourself: how has ‘elitism’ become a bad word in American politics? There is simply no other walk of life in which extraordinary talent and rigorous training are denigrated. We want elite pilots to fly our planes, elite troops to undertake our most critical missions, elite athletes to represent us in competition and elite scientists to devote the most productive years of their lives to curing our diseases. And yet, when it comes time to vest people with even greater responsibilities, we consider it a virtue to shun any and all standards of excellence. When it comes to choosing the people whose thoughts and actions will decide the fates of millions, then we suddenly want someone just like us, someone fit to have a beer with, someone down-to-earth—in fact, almost anyone, provided that he or she doesn’t seem too intelligent or well educated.
I believe that with the nomination of Sarah Palin for the vice presidency, the silliness of our politics has finally put our nation at risk.”
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“[T]he accusation here is not really that Palin lacks experience; it is that she lacks the right experience. She attended the University of Idaho, entered a beauty contest, joined the NRA and a church where people speak in tongues and was elected to govern a state with few Starbucks. Obama rose quickly from Columbia to Harvard Law, taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago and joined the most exclusive club in America, the Senate. Even with no governing experience, he can claim what might be called ‘elite experience.’ And this is enough for elitists…
Americans who support Palin are not fools, peasants or theocrats. They have reasons, which elites may not agree with, but cannot dismiss. Many are attracted to her because she embodies the values of the American West, which they find superior to the values of coastal elites. This was part of the appeal of Goldwater and Reagan—a log-splitting, range-riding conservatism that emphasizes freedom. (Palin adds moose hunting to the list.) It’s not irrational or simplistic for voters to prefer candidates who reflect their deepest values…
Elitists can be badly wrong. Populists can be resoundingly right. It is values that often make the difference.”
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“‘What we’re seeing in both campaigns is a fierce determination to win and that principles don’t matter,’ said Heather Mac Donald, a social conservative thinker at the free market Manhattan Institute. ‘There is a lot of populist demagoguery.’…
‘The implosion of anger against anyone – heaven forbid – being elite or having experience that isn’t moose-hunting makes me uncomfortable,’ Mac Donald said. ‘There is no question that I would have preferred someone with business experience in the White House.’…
Mac Donald is considering voting for Obama, even though she fears he is also underqualified. ‘I go back and forth on it. I would not rule it out,’ she said.”
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“Why does Sarah Palin energize all of us who don’t belong to the gilded leftwing circle? Because she’s us. We sat beside her in class. We hung out after school (might’ve even shared a backseat combat zone on prom night). And now she lives next door, raising her kids.
For the first time since Ronald Reagan, our last great president, we, the people, see a chance that one of us might have a voice in governing our country…
So here’s the message Palin is sending on behalf of the rest of us (the down-market masses Dems love at election time and ignore once the voting’s done): The rule of the snobs is over. It’s time to give one of us a chance to lead.”
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elite scientists, pilots and troops, I can handle. Elite Politicians is where I draw the line.
bloggless on September 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM
The experience question is going to come up during the debates; Palin would be smart to echo something along these lines.
“Say that, Look – for 40 years, we’ve been ruled by people who have the right experience, the right ideas and look where that has gotten us. More debt, more financial problems and more government. It’s time to let us have a shot. We know how to balance our check books, pay our bills and live our lives – all without government. The so-called smart people can step aside. Let main street run things now.”
People would fall in line. Take the experience question and turn it right back on them.
lorien1973 on September 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM
How dare we demand the opportunity to govern ourselves.
Tengripundit on September 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM
The “elites” that Sam Harris likes to think he is one of, are not highly educated, hyper-intelligent, excellently skilled, morally superior beings. They are the “cool kids” from 8th grade who made fun of everyone else who wasn’t as “cool” as them.
Alouette on September 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM
I just viewed a very interesting video about liberals called “How Liberals Think”. A bit lengthy but seems to do a good job of describing the process of how a regular person, maybe someone you like and whose company you enjoy, can become and remain a liberal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c
The downside is that, after having viewed the video, I now tend to think of them like a cute little puppy turned rabid dog…. a nice, cute puppy but needs to be shot!
CC
CapedConservative on September 20, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Dang, Allah, you’ve been doing your homework on this ‘un.
Central question, and the guy in the Post said it best…what has Harvard done for us, lately? He named Reagan’s college-I’ve never heard of it…and who cares?
At the end of the day, is it more important to understand our needs of sovereignty and national interest, or the name of, say, Putin’s wife?
hippie_chucker on September 20, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Nothing like an elitist defending elitism.
bloggless on September 20, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Being elite for elite’s sake is an exercise in inane arrogance.
Being an elite (_______________) << fill in the blank
is different than just being an elitist.
I would say that Governor Palin is an “elite at many things” but not just a pompous nobody like B. Hussian Obama.
TheSitRep on September 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Excellent post.
Conservatives are not, pace Harris, against all elites or elitism in general. Conservatives (this one at least) is against the current crop of western elites who are against those who don’t believe in their liberal worldview. I am against those who say, for example, that it is simplistic to call Islamic terrorists “evil” but celebrate calling Bush “evil.”
It is these elites who are against standards, against judgments, against tradition that I oppose. These elites worship equality over liberty and view all standards (except their own) as arbitrary and discriminatory.
I’m a proud anti-elite elitist.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I’ll double down: great post by AP.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Harris is confusing elitism with excellence. No one’s opposed to excellence, least of all middle America.
Elitism carries with it connotations of arrogance and condescension, and that’s the problem.
Purple Fury on September 20, 2008 at 10:04 PM
I have always found that when laying in bed after surgery or an illness and requesting a nurse to help with a bedpan quickly cures an elitist of the malady of elitism. We really all do poop the same way.
bloggless on September 20, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Does that remind anyone of a particular group of people?
;)
WildBillK on September 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Yes — and notice that it’s not the MDs who do that work, but the “lowly” RNs and CNAs…
Tengripundit on September 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Not just superior values, but superior experience. I say the “western” experience is superior to that of the Ivy League.
Nosferightu on September 20, 2008 at 10:08 PM
“Angry people are not often wise.”
-Jane Austen
Pride and Prejudice
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 10:08 PM
The dealer wins: this is a quote from Ralph Peters, not AP.
Right_of_Attila on September 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM
And who really trains the interns? The nurses.
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Elite is fine.
It’s elitists I can’t stand.
Being good is admirable, thinking you’re superior is not.
Let’s face it — I doubt I’d have the moral fortitude to come through what John McCain did in Vietnam. I’d have taken the early release, and learned to live with the shame. He actually is a better man than I am. But you’ll never hear him say that, or see him act like it.
It’s about arrogance and humility, not Harvard and Annapolis.
ClintACK on September 20, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Yes, but I’m talking about all four of the quotes/pieces that he linked to.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM
The premise that “someone just like us” isn’t smart or well-educated is insulting and blatantly absurd.
SouthernGent on September 20, 2008 at 10:12 PM
The implication that Gov. Palin is mediocre which couldn’t be farther than the truth. She’s been a fantastic governor. Obama’s tenure in both the state and US senates has been less than mediocre.
Sad to see Heather MacDonald flip out. Her statement that principals don’t matter to either campaign is b.s. And Palin does have business experience, Obama does not. But, of course, MacDonald is another east coast elite and she is true to form.
While this article appears on the surface to be praising Palin, in reality it is just another slam on her. Which, of course, is why it is posted on HotAir.
Blake on September 20, 2008 at 10:12 PM
“We The People…..”
custer on September 20, 2008 at 10:12 PM
“We The
PeopleMEDIA…..”custer on September 20, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Elite pilots think they are better than other pilots because they are. They do not think they are better people.
Elite scientists think they are better at better than other scientist because they are.
Elite soldiers think they are better than other soldiers because they are.
Elite politicians think they are better people, but they aren’t.
Blarg the Destroyer on September 20, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Someone refresh my recollection, what exactly has Biden ever accomplished it the Senate? When has he ever been right on foreign policy?
What evidence is there of Obama’s qualifications to lead, other than a speech he gave in 2004 (off a teleprompter)?
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Sam Harris
You’re a fake, pretending that you’re defending the “elite”.
The problem, dim wit, is that your defending the wrong kind of elite.
Palin is “elite”.
She’s part of a very exclusive club, single handedly fighting political corruption within the GOP establishment. In fact, she is setting a standard.
She’s also part of another very exclusive club, she’s one of fifty governors in the United States.
You, Sam Harris, are the quintessential poster child for mediocrity. Perhaps you should take more study of Sarah Palin and learn what elite actually means.
What a f’n dolt.
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM
An elite politician is only elite because he’s created problems, that he’s needed to fix by creating other problems over a long period of time.
Sum it up pretty well? :P
lorien1973 on September 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM
They really hate her.
WisCon on September 20, 2008 at 10:17 PM
As Geraldine Ferraro noted in her “the emperor has no clothes” comment, Obama wouldn’t even have been in the running if he hadn’t been black. Affirmative action favors quotas and “diversity” over excellence.
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Palin is NOT a girl-next-door one-of-us. She has accomplished more than the vast majority of us:
–Overcoming great odds at winning low-, mid-, & high-level elections
–Overcoming corruption in city gov’t, a state agency, & state elective offices
–Rising quickly from obscurity to audience of thirty million with grace, charm, & very few bloopers
jgapinoy on September 20, 2008 at 10:19 PM
The nomination of Sarah Palin is exposing a lot that has been hidden beneath the surface. It’s all coming out in the open.
D0WNT0WN on September 20, 2008 at 10:19 PM
To be a member of Sam Harris’s elites requires that you hold certain political views not that you have certain accomplishments.
Does anyone believe that if Palin was a leftwing feminist that questions about her intellect or academic accomplishments would be raised to this level?
Look, Barbara Boxer is an absolute dolt. We all know that. But if Obama had nominated her as his VP, no one would be allowed to question her qualifications in the manner that Palin has.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:20 PM
and,
–effectively governing a large state with 84% approval ratings
jgapinoy on September 20, 2008 at 10:21 PM
The elitists will keep pushing until “the people” are aganst the wall. Then it will hit the fan and our next civil war will begin. The media, liberal professors and left wing Dems will know the people had enough.
wepeople on September 20, 2008 at 10:21 PM
And a fine selection of quotes it is… I just had to “call” your bet. :-)
I think the elites are very nervous given the reaction to Sarah. If they were confident that they really deserve to be elites, and that her education was not enough to run rings around them, they would simply ignore her. Obviously, the elitists cannot ignore her.
Right_of_Attila on September 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM
DOWNTOWN: Light often does that to darkness (or things that can’t live in the light)
Alan on September 20, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Usually I hate it when others beat me to the comment I want to make, but you said it better than I would have been able.
‘Down to Earth’ does not equal mediocre.
innominatus on September 20, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Mac Donald when to Andover for HS and Yale for college, says her bio. Of course Palin’s popularity threatens her.
Also, Heather, Palin did run a fishing business. Granted, it wasn’t a Fortune 500 company, but that’s what most businesses are– small– and people like having someone in the White House that understands how difficult it can be to run a small business (esp. with taxes and regulation). What have you done besides share your brilliant opinions with us, spinster?
Pasalubong on September 20, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Did he just say our troops are elite? There is your headline. Yes they are elite, but they are not elitists. Pull out the dictionary and look up the definitions.
e·lite –noun
1.(often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
elitist noun
someone who believes in rule by an elite group
Just A Grunt on September 20, 2008 at 10:28 PM
To think that calling troops elite is the same as calling Obama an elitist is just ridiculous. In the first case, it means “best.” The latter, “snob.” Apples and Muslims.
Ronnie on September 20, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Please some one point out the hypocrisy in this jackass’s (ie., SteveMG) post.
barry norris on September 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Given what the elites on Wall Street have cost the taxpayers so far this year, I am in no mood to listen how we need more East Coast elites.
pedestrian on September 20, 2008 at 10:30 PM
No, you do it.
C’mon big boy.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:30 PM
For God’s sake, when will these morons quit saying that she belongs to a church that speaks in tongues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People who belong to Bible Churches DO NOT SPEAK IN TONGUES! Can’t these vitriolic elitists even try to get the facts right?
flytier on September 20, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Obama is elite because he is one of one hundred Senators? OK I can follow that logic. But Sarah Palin is a member of a group that is twice as exclusive. Sarah is one of fifty U.S. Governors. So why is she not elite? Why is she not twice as elite?
meci on September 20, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Harris criticizes the beliefs of Palin’s church, but nary a mention of what Obama’s minister for 20 years, Jeremiah “G****** the USA” Wright believes, or the wacko Black Liberation Thelogy on which his sermons were based. Wright makes Palin’s Assembly of God look like High Church Episcopalians in comparison.
Oh, right, I forgot. Obama, sophisticated elite that he is, never really believed anything Wright preached. Obama only joined the church to further his political career. But we can’t **wink, wink** let the superstitious masses know that.
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 10:33 PM
It is, of course, one thing to attack Boxer’s (or Palin’s) political views.
It is another to attack her background and her origins as being “trashy” or not worthy.
If the left limited their criticisms to Palin’s views or knowledge on issues, that is one thing. To attack her and her origins and background (her children, her family, her religion, et cetera) is another.
One who can’t see this isn’t paying attention.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I really wish folks, supporters and detractors alike, would stop referring to the VP nominee in sexual terms all the time. It’s really unprofessional and doesn’t help her candidacy.
It happens with Obama to some extent, too. He’s supposed to be so attractive (personally, he doesn’t float my boat). However, at least when O!’s looks/attractiveness are brought up they are in a pretty reserved, “dignified” way.
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Poppycock.
No single American is us. American’s are just too varied in so many things for any one person to be us, even us of the non “gilded leftwing circle”.
To say that a single American is us is to deny America.
HalJordan on September 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM
She belonged to the Assembly of God for quite a few years; may not now. Yes, some do speak in tongues, although not necessarily every Sunday. My uncle was an AOG pastor.
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM
There is a difference between a person who is “elite” in their field and an “elitist,” and “elitism” is a fuzzy word that can be used either way, depending upon context. One would hope that a highschool graduate would know the difference, let alone a “journalist” who gets published in Newsweek.
While, yes, we respect “elite” soldiers and “elite” pilots, no one would respect “elitist” soldiers or “elitist” pilots (or elitist journalists for that matter).
“Elite” means better than most people at [x]. “Elitist” means a snobish pretentious pr**k.
For example: Elite politicians founded this country. Elitist politicians ran the Soviet Union.
The (elitist) writer is either playing word games to trick his readers or is proving that he is truly not at all elite in his field.
29Victor on September 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM
“Elite” ?
How about just plain old “two faced”? Such as Duh 1’s expoits in San Fran.
Experience? The Vice President runs the country all by himself or herself now? No advisors? No Secretatry of State, Defense, Homeland Security, Treasury, etc, etc, etc.
This article is all smoke and mirrors, because it doesn’t discuss two things:
1. Personal character of the candidates.
2. When in a elected office, Sarah Palin actually did what she said she would do during the campaign to get elected. I can understand how those in Washington and those who report on those in Washington don’t know how to appoach such a concept.
Hog Wild on September 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM
yawn…zzzzzzzzzzz
redrock on September 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Is this a rhetorical question or are you serious?
Obama isn’t an elitist because he’s 1 of 100, he’s an elitist because of his condescending attitude towards the 300,000,000 of us not in the Senate. He comes off as a fellow who would be uncomfortable sitting down to dinner with me and having a salad without arugula. Sarah Palin comes across as a person who not only would come over for dinner but who would also bake a pie for the occasion.
Elitism, wealth, and money often go hand in hand but not always. Obama represents the trendy, coastal elites that populate media, academia, and politics that looks down their collective noses at the rest of the country and thinks us incapable of running our own lives. That is extremely offensive and angers a lot of us our here in fly over country.
Given Obama’s thin resume I believe that I’m more qualified for POTUS than he but to hear the MSM Obama is the solution to all our problems. Natch.
DerKrieger on September 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM
For those whom think Sarah Palin is intellectually inferior, uneducated:
Use the word “fungible” in a sentence.
Rewrite the sentence so as to express exactly the same thought, without using the word “fungible”.
lsheldon on September 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM
It keeps people from noticing that their candidate speaks in uhs.
Ronnie on September 20, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Maybe it’s the inverse square law, or something?
/suffer fools gladly
Tengripundit on September 20, 2008 at 10:40 PM
I took meci to mean that Palin was more elite (not elitist) than O! because she is from a more select group (governors as opposed to senators).
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:41 PM
My dog’s name is not Fungible.
My dog’s name is Fonzie.
Ronnie on September 20, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Statement: Barbara Boxer has stupid political views.
I am, of course questioning her public policy views as a Senator.
In doing so, I am not attacking her family, her heritage, her background, her children, her educational experience or any other aspect of her.
I am not saying she is not qualified to serve in office. I am not saying she is a traitor to feminism. I am not attacking her as a person. I am attacking her political judgments.
If the critics of Palin’s limited their attacks similarly, none of this would come to our attention.
Full stop.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM
We’re not supposed to have an “elite” military or civilian government service. (It’s OK to have some elite units, like SEALS, Rangers, etc., but most of our military should be the militia, which includes the National Guard.) We’re supposed to have citizen soldiers, trial by jury, a House (charged with the sole authority to initiate taxation bills) chosen from the common citizen (modeled after the British House of Commons with which the Framers were familiar, and it is expressly forbidden by our Constitution to have titles of nobility.
We reject the mentality that there is a privileged class of people who are qualified to sit in judgement of our lives, to make the laws that constrain our liberty, execute the laws of the nation, and lead our diplomatic and military corps. We fought a damned revolution against it.
An Ivy League degree is a de facto title of nobility, and the more our self-appointed betters look down their noses at us, the more we rubes resent it. if they keep it up, we might not just put McCain in the White House, but John Boehner in the Speaker’s chair alongside Palin for his first SotU address.
The Monster on September 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Yes, well, Heather MacDonald was educated at Yale, Cambridge, and Stanford. Why wouldn’t she be an elitist who looks down her nose at moose hunting?
see-dubya on September 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Are these the same “Elite” pols who have sat on their hands and watched energy prices go through the roof and while they were watching that happen the financial market dump “took them by surprise”?
Name a single person in Washington D.C. that you consider elite. How about lowering the bar to above average? Still nothing…yeah, me too.
woodman on September 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Still waiting there Barry.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Ralph Peters:
…”Harvard isn’t the answer – Harvard’s the problem.”
There it is.
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Why was the governor of Arkansas elite enough to be president but not the governor of Alaska?
29Victor on September 20, 2008 at 10:45 PM
I am not all that impressed with Heather MacDonald, either. She uses the bedpan the same everyone else does. Like I have always said, put anybody in a arse baring hospital gown, put ‘em on bedrest and give them a call button and believe you me, they are just like everybody else.
bloggless on September 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Oooh, oooh, oooh — I know that one Mr. Kotter!
He was a Rhodes scholar and a lawyer.
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Being an elite politician is kind of like saying elite bank robber.
Lincoln on September 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM
“Some people are educated beyond their intelligence.”
-My dad
DerKrieger on September 20, 2008 at 10:49 PM
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
That was easy…
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Elitism in the sense in which we are discussing may in fact be a detriment to good governance because elitists like Kennedy, Kerry, Boxer, et al have no idea how the laws they pass impact the population at large and are wealthy enough not to have to suffer the unintended consequences when they make mistakes. Citizen legislators, the Founders intent, who serve and then return to their civilian lives have good reason to make good law. They have to live with those laws. We need term limits.
DerKrieger on September 20, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM
But neither of these things gave him any “elite training” in the field of government or foreign policy.
And while Clinton may have been an “elitist” (I don’t know that he was) or someone that the author might consider better than the rest of us, he had not proven himself to be an “elite” governor (big “G” or small “g”) when the Dems nominated him to be president.
This goes to the difference between the words “elite” and “elitist” that I commented on above.
29Victor on September 20, 2008 at 10:54 PM
You know I was being sarcastic, right?
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Errr, AP, PLEASE get rid of that obviously photoshopped Palin pic. It is time to turn the page on these idiots.
Calm Before the Storm on September 20, 2008 at 10:56 PM
There is simply no other walk of life in which extraordinary talent and rigorous training are denigrated. We want
elitespecialist pilots to fly our planes,elitespecialist troops to undertake our most critical missions,elitespecialist athletes to represent us in competition andelitespecialist scientists to devote the most productive years of their lives to curing our diseases.mred on September 20, 2008 at 10:56 PM
As I struggled to find the words, and reread the comments I suddenly realized that Allahpundit has trained us well.
You all are getting good at this …uh…stuff.
rockhauler on September 20, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I will credit DerKriegerDad when I use that little gem. :]
Calm Before the Storm on September 20, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Ready to rumble?
Calm Before the Storm on September 20, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Barark Hussein Obama is a do nothing elitist snob. Man do you know the price of fancy lettuce?
mred on September 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Great post, I printed several copies and sent to friends.
KBird on September 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Steve, you’re backtracking and not paying attention to your own posts:
Get it now?!?
barry norris on September 20, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I see your point (I think) but I disagree. The artistic, scientific and engineering genius Leonardo Da Vinci was not a specialist. Many of the great scientific discoveries were made by generalists.
I agree with others on this thread who have distinguished the adjective “elite” (best, choice, cream, select, superior) from the noun “elitist” (aristocratic, dictatorial, high and mighty, highbrow, imperious).
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Mike Huckabee was a Rhodes scholar and a lawyer??
;)
Tengripundit on September 20, 2008 at 11:05 PM
whoops, adjective form of elitist
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 11:05 PM
It’s around BHO’s bowling score, pretty low.
Mojave Mark on September 20, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Oh, now you’re being cruel. Are you trying to start a Huckabee flame thread on a Saturday night?! Naughty, naughty. :-)
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM
they still don’t get it. It is not that she is one of us but that she came from us. She has proven herself by winning, by governing. She has proven herself by cutting spending, breaking big oil, going against party, working with the dems, reducing earmarks, honoring the troops, sending one of her sons to figth in our wars.
It is not like we picked some Mary, Jane or Wendy off the street with no expierence. Gov Palin has plenty of “governing experience”. the 80% approval rating shows she is GREAT at the job of governing. She is an elite leader. Like an elite pilot that has been in school, flown countless missions, she is at the top of her chosen profession. We would like her even without the middle class upbringing. But this asset of having a connection to the Middle Class helps her center herself.
Leaders need to know who they lead. They need to respect the people they lead. There is no school to teach leadership. you can not learn leadership in a classroom or in a debating society. You learn leadership by doing and Gov. Palin has been doing not debating 9like Obama).
They will not understand. Leaders get the elites to work for them. they delegate responsibilities. they concern themselves with moving the ball forward not learning every little detail of the plan but moving the plan forward. Obama would be a great adviser he is not a leader. McCain shows leadership so does Palin. Obama and biden do not.
unseen on September 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM
I am attacking her political intellect. Her knowledge and views on PUBLIC POLICY.
I am not attacking her family, her heritage, her education, her feminism, her religion. I am not saying that she is not qualified to serve in office. I am not saying that she is “trash”. I am not attacking her origins.
We – left and right – attack the political views and political intellect of everyone in office. We all say – all the time – that Bush is an idiot or Biden is an idiot or Obama is an idiot or McCain is an idiot.
That happens all the time.
With Palin, you folks are attacking not her intellect or political views, you are attacking her very substance as a person. Her religion, her family, her culture, her heritage, her feminism.
If you can’t see the difference between questioning someone’s political intellect versus questioning her entire being, then you’re missing (again) the entire focuse of the post by AP.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Actually, it’s not. An opponent of hers (not sure if it was during her run for Lt. Gov or Gov) called her “Valley Trash” so she wore the shirt. I think it’s funny. She always throws it back in their face, which is why we love Sarah’cuda.
Pasalubong on September 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM
what the liberals are trying to say is that we are all equal just some more equal than others.
unseen on September 20, 2008 at 11:11 PM
“Elitism implies pessimism about the people’s ability to make decisions affecting themselves”, according to Jeffrey Bell.
“Just as elites inaugurated the age of equality, the age of equality brought forth elitism”. The Left’s constant call for equality masks their paranoid elitism: they despise and fear the basic common sense that most people have because Libs realize that they rarely DO anything necessary, and most of what they do is harmful
If we all acted on that realization, most of the bureaucrats would be out of a job–and lose their power
Janos Hunyadi on September 20, 2008 at 11:12 PM
It’s not photoshopped. That’s why it’s awesome.
lorien1973 on September 20, 2008 at 11:12 PM
This whole debate is loony. Being an “elite” doesn’t make you a bad person or suspect as a potential leader. Being an “ordinary person” doesn’t automatically imbue someone with common sense and a fitness to hold high office. Sen. Obama is competing based on his skimpy legislative record and his undeniable oratorical skills. Gov. Palin is competing based on her much lengthier but admittedly smaller league executive experience and her undeniable political skills. Sen. McCain is competing on the basis of his long experience in world/national affairs and his particular worldview. Sen. Biden is competing on the basis of his long experience in Congress and familiarity with world/national affairs. The elite vs. ordinary sneering is starting to be ridiculous.
Jill1066 on September 20, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Pretty much sums it up.
lorien1973 on September 20, 2008 at 11:13 PM
They don’t understand conservatives, and they don’t understand what ‘elitism’ is.
Elitism is the raising of yourself and the lowering of everyone else into a subservient position. It’s Joe Biden saying “I think my IQ is much higher than yours (so shut up).” It’s Hillary’s “we’re going to take things from you.” It’s the media’s self-congratulating echo chamber that shows contempt for it’s audience when it claims to be impartial.
‘Elite’ is one thing, meaning ‘at the top’– ‘elitist’ is the view of the aristocrat, the overlord, the ruler, looking down on those they consider less than themselves.
‘Elite’ is something others can recognize in you, being ‘elitist’ is viewing other and elevating yourself above them.
America was created with the people as the ruling class, not with an aristocracy.
snickelfritz on September 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
If the left wishes to say that Palin’s view are stupid and she is dumb, that’s fine with me. We all call politicians on the right and left “stupid” and “idiots” all the time.
But the left’s attacks on Palin are not limited to her intellect. They are attacks on her very being as a person. That she is not just “stupid” but she is totally unqualified as a person to be in leadership in this country.
That is because, for them, her religious views, her background, her cultural attitudes, her history are not proper.
That point, of course, is the entire focus of this discussion.
SteveMG on September 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Obama may be an elitist, and some may consider him to be an “elite human being” (we don’t have many of those here in the U.S.) but neither of those things make him an elite in the field of governing.
A person wouldn’t ask an “elite scientist” to fly their plane or an “elite doctor” to produce their movie for them. “Elite” is a specific term that must be used in the context of a specific skill.
But the left in America are gravitating more and more toward the idea of a “general elitist,” someone who is simply better than the rest of us and who is better qualified to lead than any of us. It goes hand in glove with their desire to implement policies that have failed in the past. They insist that it wasn’t the policies that were bad, it was the way they were implemented. If they could only find someone to properly implement the policy it would work great, and those policies don’t make sense to most people but that’s only because most of us aren’t smart enough to properly understand them.
29Victor on September 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
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