Biden to Obama: Hands off my guns
posted at 8:43 pm on September 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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In an out-of-nowhere attempt to re-assure a southwestern Virginia labor crowd about gun owners’ rights, Biden — who regularly scores “F” ratings from the National Rifle Association — warned Obama that if “he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem.”
“I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey,” Biden said Saturday at the United Mine Workers of America’s annual fish fry in Castlewood, Virginia. “Don’t buy that malarkey. They’re going to start peddling that to you.”
Biden told the crowd that he himself is a gun owner. “I got two,” Biden said, “if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem. I like that little over and under, you know? I’m not bad with it. So give me a break. Give me a break.
Would The One dare to fool with his Beretta? Of course not — he doesn’t have the votes. Golly, I wonder if this explains why Team Barry was so quick to acquiesce to McCain’s demand for a highly structured VP debate format with short Q&A periods so that the candidates can’t ramble on.
I do believe it was:
A commission member said that the new agreement on the vice-presidential debate was reached late morning Saturday. It calls for shorter blocks of candidate statements and open discussion than at the presidential debates.
McCain advisers said they were only somewhat concerned about Ms. Palin’s debating skills compared with those of Mr. Biden, who has served six terms in the Senate, or about his chances of tripping her up. Instead, they say, they wanted Ms. Palin to have opportunities to present Mr. McCain’s positions, rather than spending time talking about her own experience or playing defense…
Indeed, both the McCain and Obama campaigns have similar concerns about the vice-presidential matchup in St. Louis: that Ms. Palin, of Alaska, as a new player in national politics, or Mr. Biden, of Delaware, as a loquacious and gaffe-prone speaker, could commit a momentum-changing misstep in their debate.
Considering that Biden’s famously popped off on this subject at a debate before plus the fact that the singular image of the ‘Cuda in the public imagination is of her brandishing an automatic weapon, I’d say odds are fair that if war breaks out at the debate, this’ll be the issue that sets it off. Exit question: The Times piece notes that Friday’s McCain/Obama debate was originally supposed to deal with the economy but was switched to foreign policy — at Obama’s urging. Evidently he wants to show off his facility with international issues to reassure people who are worried about his inexperience. Is that a good move or a bad one? Initially I thought it was nutty since he leads McCain consistently on the economy and should want to take advantage now, but there’s a certain wisdom in pushing discussion of an issue on which he’s stronger back so that it’s closer to the election.
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This from a man who couldn’t find a gun he didn’t want to ban. I think this really is 1984.
Two solid NRA “F” politicians trying to tell people that they are “pro-gun”. It boggles the mind that someone might actually believe them.
CrazyGene on September 20, 2008 at 8:47 PM
I’ll say it agin- he’ll be gone by Friday
anniekc on September 20, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Gaffetastic.
Had Palin said this the MSM would construe the comments as a threat. (Obama better not mess with my gun! Some could take that as an implied threat.)
65droptop on September 20, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Perhaps the VP debate should end with a shooting range contest. After all, if you can’t hit an Iranian with a clear shot, how prepared are you to set the nation’s foreign policy and lead the war effort?
bayam on September 20, 2008 at 8:49 PM
That lying POS is not fooling this (or any other) NRA member.
TexasJew on September 20, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Economy is issue 1; McCain should force that to be the topic of the debate. Either Obama will agree, and be a follower, or he’ll disagree and look out of touch.
lorien1973 on September 20, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Instead of a debate I propose he and Palin meet at the rifle range and see who’s “not bad.”
Disturb the Universe on September 20, 2008 at 8:50 PM
That would encourage me to actually watch the debates. Also a good idea: steel cage matches.
Anna on September 20, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Of course, the issue isn’t shotguns for hunting, it’s weapons for personal defense, and related issues (type, timely access to them, waiting periods for purchase, concealed carry, etc.).
Biden needs to be questioned about how far he believes the second amendment extends.
BLOC on September 20, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Does he own a legal gun?
JAW on September 20, 2008 at 8:53 PM
bayam on September 20, 2008 at 8:49 PM
You beat me to it.
Disturb the Universe on September 20, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Obama likes to vote Against guns and the 2nd Amendment just as much and he likes to vote For Abortion and killing babies that have been born alive!
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Biden is such a character. He really is.
As for changing the debate subjcts, I have no idea what difference it would make.
Terrye on September 20, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Should the Secret Service that that as a threat to Obama’s life and lock Biden up? LMAO..
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Oh, for the old days.
I say lock them inside a ring with nothing but a loincloth and a knife.
I hate this BS.
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 8:57 PM
You’re completely right about that. It would be funny as hell if he were running at the top of the ticket, you’d never know what he’s going to say next.
bayam on September 20, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Should the Secret Service treat that as a threat to Obama’s life and lock Biden up? LMAO..
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Did you ever have one of those bosses who knew all the power words, but when you engaged him in conversation you began to suspect he didn’t really understand the meaning or the implications of those words?
Sounds like Biden, a walking talking Dilbert cartoon.
rockhauler on September 20, 2008 at 8:58 PM
A movie Charleston Heston was in:
Joe,Take your Dam Dirty Filthy Paws off my nice
Clean Shiny Guns,
and get your Dam Dirty Rotten Filthy Finger
off my upper chest,particulaty my well shaped
muscular pectorils,KA-PISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!haha.
canopfor on September 20, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Biden is Racist!!!!!!! LMAO
That was a coded message!
LMAO..
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:00 PM
My thoughts exactly……………… see ‘ya on the range Joe.
Seven Percent Solution on September 20, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Did Biden just threaten a black guy?!?! Where’s Karen Tumulty, she knows this stuff when she sees it and my secret decoder ring isn’t here yet.
hump1201 on September 20, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Why are they using Jennifer Granholm as a stand in for Sarah in debate prep? That’s an insult to Sarah!
SouthernGent on September 20, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I can’t wait to see the NRA commercials.
Elizabetty on September 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Stole my thunder, Chakra.
If a “Rethug” had said what Biden did, the leftnuts would be in a frothing rage. Rabble Rabble!
JimRich on September 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Silly Joe!
You sound like you went to the same speech trainer as John “Where-Can-I-Get-Me-A-Huntin-License” Kerry.
Keep ‘em comin’, Joe!
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM
“Your hitting pretty well dead on.”
Since her first Moose,I would think,yup!!
And this video is giving Liberals cold sweats,nightmares,
support groups and trips to their psychologists!!
canopfor on September 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM
When a lawyers lips are moving……you can make book that they are lying!!!
grapeknutz on September 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Barry Obama is a complete IDIOT for picking Joe
custer on September 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Fool with my Beretta
Not take my shotguns
I have two guns…
JUST TWO EH? SHOTGUNS AND A BERETTA, INTERESTING COUNTING LIAR.
Cardiganfox on September 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM
The BlueDogs have not been forced to see the liberals browbeat their guys yet. I recall how they passed Clinton’s tax increase with literal arm twisting. When the Soros backed go after the Blue Dog bubba’s berettas there will either be an electoral revolt or a physical one.
sven10077 on September 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Nice,GaffeBiden,done shot himself in the foot!!Hehe
canopfor on September 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM
No doubt about it. If a Republican had said that it would be considered a death threat – and racist too of course.
And how about this: “Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey”
Is he capable of talking to anybody without being condescending? He’s in Appalachia, so he feels the need to say “ain’t” and “malarkey”. What a jerk.
forest on September 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM
The Democrats have done some polling and understand that gun owners are a big voting bloc. So now Obama is saying he believes in the 2nd Amendment and Biden is acting all gun tough.
Please.
Let Obama’s record speak for itself. They want to be elected on lies. This and not raising taxes on most of us.
All lies.
Rightwingsparkle on September 20, 2008 at 9:10 PM
And off my wallet while you guy’s are at it.
Hog Wild on September 20, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Who’s he trying to fool here?
If Obama had “the votes”, a break-action shotgun would be the only firearm any American would be allowed to own…after having secured a $5,000 license and submitting a DNA sample for the gun registry.
Oh, did you want shells for that? Those are now $200 a box.
What a turd.
Bruce in NH on September 20, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Scranton was bought a Beretta shotgun by a oobbyist in all likelihood. Beretta shotguns are among the most expensive made. It’s funny that the donks can’t help but be elitist when talking down to their blue-dogs. Ah well we’ll see if PR and class war can trump personal desires.
sven10077 on September 20, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Sheesh You Can’t make this stuff up..
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Cue the vid of little Joe bragging about him being at the forefront of the ban of so-called assault rifles!…I guess two slugs from an over and under are clearly less deadly than my .223 AR-15….sarc/always on when Joe speaks!
Bluestate_Blues on September 20, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:14 PM
sven10077 on September 20, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Oh truly? Cause Beretta, at least to me and people I know is usually the 9 mm. Then I retract it if he meant the shotguns.
Cardiganfox on September 20, 2008 at 9:15 PM
So Biden (white guy) is worried (scared) that Barry (a black guy) is going to break into his house and steal his stuff.
custer on September 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM
What next? “Can I get me a huntin’ license around here?”
MrScribbler on September 20, 2008 at 9:17 PM
He’s committing political suicide.
carbon_footprint on September 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM
I assume he’s able to conjugate verbs when he’s not talking down to gun totin’ mountain folk. Again, what a jerk.
forest on September 20, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Beretta’s been making shotguns and arquebi since 1526. In Italy itself they are more known for shotguns than M92s. “Scranton” is just being “Scranton”.
If the GOP loses we need to bite the bullet and follow McCain’s vision on immigration quite vocally despite how much I hate that notion. The Hispanic goodwill and bubbas coming home after Barry and “Scranton” ban guns will implode the Donks for a decade or more.
sven10077 on September 20, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Since Binden said that he had 2, then he said “Shotguns” plural, yes at least one must be a Beretta shotgun..
I use Remington, my brother-in-law has a Beretta he likes mine better.(as do I)
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Can you imagine if the MSM operated objectively?
This election would already be over.
-By the way Chakra, loved Rudy at the convention! I might end up being a groupie too! ;o)
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Rudy is DA MAN!!!
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM
It doesn’t mean anything:
Joe Biden was just plagiarizing a real gun owner.
Right_of_Attila on September 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Biden, it ain’t your Blankety-blank guns we Americans are concerned about. It’s our guns we’re concerned about.
john1schn on September 20, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Biden is such a boob. Lol!
Calm Before the Storm on September 20, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM
LOL
You’re so predictable. How long have you been dating?
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Funny, first Biden loves to claim he wrote the assault weapons ban, and second he brags about owning an Italian gun.
I mean hey, Beretta makes some great firearms (they really do), but if you’re gonna pander…then PANDER! Don’t say Beretta, say Ruger, or Smith & Wesson, or Browning. Dufus.
dugan on September 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I never got to meet Rudy.. :{ **shakes head**
I was born in and raised in Indiana, now live in Blue State MN..
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Hah!!!
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
sven10077 on September 20, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Noted.
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Knowing Joe’s penchant for lying I went and jumped into “he must be deceiving mode”. I have a Benelli myself.
Cardiganfox on September 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Biden would have been much more believable if he would have said hands of my plugs. Then he might have redeemed himself. Well, maybe not.
cyclown on September 20, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Biden would have been much more believable if he would have said hands
ofoff my plugs. Then he might have redeemed himself. Well, maybe not.Daggum it.
cyclown on September 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM
He probably popped open a nice cold Stella Artois with the rank and file after the meetin’ was over too – you know – to fit in.
forest on September 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM
This VP debate is already history.
Sarah knows it’s a double-tap to the center of the body mass, followed by one to the head to make sure.
Joe WILL stay down.
Yoop on September 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Would you want this doofus as President of the United States?
No. Really.
Where’s it written that he’s qualified to be President just because he’s sat in the Senate forever representing a tiny little state?
Can you imagine this gaffetastic clown in charge of…anything?
The left castigates McCain for the Palin pick because it was political–as it of course clearly was–but Barry took this guy only because he’s scared.
Scared of Michelle; scared of Hillary; scared of Bill.
Maybe he can fake a slight Indian accent and get himself a job running a Dunkin Donuts.
Typhoon on September 20, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Remington!
Founded in 1816 in upstate New York, the Company is one of the nation’s oldest continuously operating manufacturers. Remington is the only U.S. manufacturer of both firearms and ammunition products and one of the largest domestic producers of shotguns and rifles. The Company had revenues in 2004 of approximately $393 million and distributes its products throughout the U.S. and in over 55 foreign countries.
Remington Arms Company, Inc., headquartered in Madison, N.C., designs, produces and sells sporting goods products for the hunting and shooting sports markets, as well as military, government and law enforcement markets.
http://www.remington.com/about/
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/870mcs.htm
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Nope… nope…. nope!!! Boobs are nice. Boobs are pretty. Boobs are usefull. Joe is none of those.
Yoop on September 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
MN?
You must get warm and fuzzy at the sound of Palin’s accent, eh?
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM
God I love Biden. He is the perfect person to illustrate the folly of the left, just like Kim Jungi-Il and Chavez.
TheSitRep on September 20, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Is that a threat?
bloggless on September 20, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Do we really want Joe Biden just a heartbeat away?????
bloggless on September 20, 2008 at 9:50 PM
The Obama campaign is half bizarro world half kabuki dance.
Paul-Cincy on September 20, 2008 at 9:51 PM
so far, he has both feet in his mouth and still managed to shoot his self in his feet..
if he was a republican, he would have been burnt pot roast..
WAY OVER done..
DaveC on September 20, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Wait until after the VP debate…
newton on September 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM
I have one of those except I had the barrel fluted and black teflon coated and I slapped a m3 mil dot reticle 16X scope on it. And a custon muzzle break.
It is sooooo freakin sweet it keyholes at 300yards.
TheSitRep on September 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Remington!
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Yup. Most popular all around shotgun. Sturdy, dependable… practically everybody and their grandmother owns one.
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM
OT… I was looking at a ‘Lords of Acid’ song on itunes the other.. saw the name, ‘Chakra’.. coincidence? :)
DaveC on September 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Can’t wait to see the debate—-Biden with his Beretta (holstered) and his over-under over his shoulder and suddenly realizes he’s been “field-dressed”.
Rovin on September 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I’ll be having dreams about this about this tonight..
Thanks, Chakra, for the link..
DaveC on September 20, 2008 at 9:57 PM
it’s all personal preference, i didn’t like the feel of the Benelli, I’m sure they shoot just fine, just to me the models i tried felt uncomfortable. (Also, my dad and brother BOTH have 870’s(older models that they have had for YEARS so.. that made my decision easier)
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Pistols at 50 paces.
My money’s on Sarah.
dont taze me bro on September 20, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Uhhh.. first of i loathe anything apple, second I have no idea who “lord of acid” is… LOL
Chakra is because I like Anime.. LOTS of them..
think of Naruto. I like almost all of them.. >:D
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Wow, I didn’t think gun rights would be a big issue because Heller had kind of defused the sense of urgency, but “Chia Joe” (as Rush calls him) managed to resuscitate it for us. Thanks, Joe!
I’m waiting for our band of trolls who are so shrill about Palin’s hunting to explain why Biden gets a pass on this one. Why does he need a shotgun if he doesn’t hunt? Or is it like Clinton not inhaling — he owns a shotgun but doesn’t use it?
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:05 PM
O! had to have the debate on the economy delayed because he doesn’t have a plan yet. He did it out of weakness, not strength.
I’m wondering why in heck one of the candidates is getting to dictate the order in which the topics are treated.
Y-not on September 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM
There’s something going around on emails that Joey boy will cite health reasons and step down. He will be replaced by Hillary. Sounds like it is a set up. First week of October is cited.
wepeople on September 20, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Make me jealous.. i’m poor. :{
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Hands off my 700 Billion dollars!
Oh, wait a minute….
TexasJew on September 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Ithaca shotgun, Colt and Ruger revolvers and Remington Model 700/30.06. That’s all I need to be happy and defend the family, as well as shoot any deer that decides to commit suicide in front of my deer blind
flytier on September 20, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Speaking of bail outs, when Uncle Sam sent my hubby and I $1200, we bought two S & W, M& Ps, his is a burly .45, and mine is the more demure 9mm. Thanks everyone for your tax contribution to my gun collection!
It is so nice to know that Obama’s gun stance is “malarkey”. Now I can sleep at night.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on September 20, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I don’t think anyone ever doubted for a moment that the government would get to keep its guns.
Ronnie on September 20, 2008 at 10:31 PM
BTW, until Palin entered the picture, we were considering a write in vote for Charlton Heston – His “From my cold dead hands” still gives me goosebumps.
(Since we live in loopy CA, our Pres vote is pretty meaningless anyway so why not a symbolic gesture?)
InTheBellyoftheBeast on September 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM
If the YouTube debate was held today, that “interesting” guy with the gun question would now be Biden’s best friend. “Take good care of your baby, bro!!”
innominatus on September 20, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Mccain camp was stupid to move the economic debate to closer to the election. McCain needs to get it out of the way during this time of economic stress. The economy could very well be on the back burner by that time. It leaves Obama holding the field on the economy. It also pushes forgein policy to the back burner as the first debate. The Palin/Biden debate is also a croc. Who is doing these debates for McCain, an obamam supporter in drag?
unseen on September 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
oh yeah biden is an idiot.
unseen on September 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Why Oil and Coal And Nuclear Energy are tied to the economy, no?
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM
you always feel well informed when reading a hotair.com piece and seeing all the links already purple as “already visited”…
Kaptain Amerika on September 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM
My thought exactly. I was a UMW member years ago and if some poseur like Biden made a statement like that with his track record on guns, they would have run him out of the hall.
capitano on September 20, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Sen Biden sounds so phoney when he says stuff like this. It will be interesting to see how many times he drops references to Pennsylvania into his debate performance. I bet it will be no fewer than 4.
Jill1066 on September 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Someone needs to tell Biden and the One….”Hands off my COUNTRY!”
Jill1066-I smell a challenge…a drinking game during the debates…we did it during the McCain acceptance speech…how many times he would say “my friend”. He said it seven times……seven shots!
HornetSting on September 20, 2008 at 11:31 PM
OT, still.
Cowboy Bebop is one of my favorites..
Anyway.. Lords of Acid.. techno band.. had name of a song with Chakra that sounded very obscene..
just asking.. that was all :)
DaveC on September 21, 2008 at 12:11 AM
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