2012: Are you ready for McCain versus Palin?
posted at 1:37 pm on September 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The thought hadn’t occurred to me but as soon as I saw the headline I knew where they were going with it. The ‘Cuda has two great (and related) political gifts acknowledged even by her big media detractors: A knack for the populist gesture and an unusual deftness in triangulating between Democrats and Republicans. Together with her bio they form the three pillars of her ordinary gal/outsider persona. If McCain wins, she’ll be VP of a country not normally inclined to give the same party more than two terms in the White House, let alone the four the GOP would need if she were to succeed McCain as an heir apparent.
What’s an ambitious maverick to do then? Hmmmmmm.
Savvy readers [of her biography] might find cause for concern in Palin’s burning ambition, her ruthlessness or her complete lack of loyalty to political patrons. One sensible reason for Sen. Barack Obama’s not choosing rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate was the real worry that she would undermine and run against him. Palin has already done that to her patrons — twice…
Palin was encouraged to run for a City Council seat in Wasilla, Alaska, in 1992 by council member Nick Carney and was warmly welcomed into office by then-Mayor John Stein. Within months of taking office, she had voted against a pay hike for Stein and against a mandatory garbage collection ordinance that would have greatly enriched Carney. Four years later, Palin unseated Stein…
The scandals Palin helped prod along [while an appointee of Gov. Frank Murkowski's administration] badly damaged the Murkowski administration. She ran against the governor in the 2006 GOP primary, easily finishing him off.
Palin had her reasons but the pattern is clear. She is invited in by well-established pols, doesn’t get her way and ends up running against the “good old boys” and defeating them handily. Would she do the same against McCain four years from now if he decides to run for reelection?
The base already loves her more than it ever has or ever will love McCain, and the center-left would thrill to her wandering off the reservation with some sort of truth-to-power shtick about how her conscience will no longer allow her to support McCain policy X, Y, or Z. They already disagree about one major issue where she’s on the right side of public opinion and he isn’t; there’s another one, even bigger than ANWR, out there for the taking if she’ll only seize it. Mix in a little Huckabee-style economic populism and she’d be the insurgent New Republican, the Change candidate, running not as a fourth term of the old GOP but as a first term of the new one. Exit question: Just the wild musings of a blogger who lives for political drama, or can we get a little Palinmania excitement going for this idea? Probably just a pipe dream given how the GOP establishment has always frowned upon disloyalty within the party. Remember the last time a sitting Republican president was challenged by someone on his own side? Whatever happened to that guy anyway?
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I’m ready for that now.
Kini on September 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM
We should be so lucky.
Purple Fury on September 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM
maybe this is some right wing wet dream but honestly it’s not happening
Xolom on September 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Heh.
lodge on September 20, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Allah, I am sure you want to throw a little red meat to the GOP, but let’s defeat Barack Obama and Joe Biden being in charge before we start speculating, shall we?
Mr. Joe on September 20, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Exit question: Just the wild musings of a blogger who lives for political drama, or can we get a little Palinmania excitement going for this idea?
No. And it’s a stupid idea – at least for the time being.
ManlyRash on September 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM
The new spin. Ferreting out corruption and working for the people is bad because it’s ambitious.
Damn, there goes lunch.
Seriously, though, I think McCain would be more inclined to prop her up in 4 years then run against her (which is unlikely that she would do imho). I think McCain would love to be the guide/mentor to the first woman President. Really, I do.
Spirit of 1776 on September 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM
No. I’m more concerned about McCain/Palin vs. the commies in 2008.
I would prefer that you were more interested in the republicans winning as opposed to attempting to create dissension for your own personal amusement.
Blake on September 20, 2008 at 1:43 PM
I expect the Dems (and their flunkies at Politico) are worred that Obama may have to throw Biden under the bus and go groveling to Hillary. This would not look good for a candidate running on his “judgment.”
So they’re hoping to sow some distrust in McCain to get him to throw Palin away, too? If so, it’s a bit heavy-handed.
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 1:44 PM
…we’ve seen more from the Democrats “about” the Divine Sarah than we’ve seen from the GOP, at this point…so info’s fairly thin. Let’s see how this plays out first. After 4 November, let’s take this up.
Let the Democrats be the party of speculation, peculation and woolly-headed dreaming…let’s stay here on Planet Earth, where the GOP does best.
Puritan1648 on September 20, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Allah,
Palin only turned when the establishment let the people down.
She knows she cannot make that kind of move without the populist appeal and grass-roots support. That is not gonna happen at the national level with the MSM already not liking her. Won’t happen.
McCain would have to go off the reservation for Palin to even think she could launch that coup and get 70% support of the American People. Won’t happen.
I suspect McCain secretly agrees on ANWR but does not have to push it now and alienate a little more of the environment voters. Offshore is fine for now.
Sapwolf on September 20, 2008 at 1:45 PM
You’re getting ahead of yourself just a bit. They have to win first.
flenser on September 20, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Palin’s still young enough to go back to Alaska if McCain would lose in 2012, and knock off Don Young for his House seat, and then continue to be on the national stage until it’s a better time to run.
Wethal on September 20, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Didn’t Nancy Sinatra do this song back in the 60s?
Limerick on September 20, 2008 at 1:46 PM
one day at a time homey…
redrock on September 20, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Um, no. You dance with the date that brought you. We Republican base types like the loyal type.
Mojave Mark on September 20, 2008 at 1:50 PM
I look forward to having this situation occur.
It’s more likely that McCain is not able or willing to run for a second term, and with The Pantsuit as the Dem candidate of course Palin is the Republican nominee.
The Dems held the presidency for twenty years, 1932-52, and if you identify Ike properly as a non-partisan rather than a Repbub, the Dems controlled the White House from Hoover to Nixon. History only predicts trends, and never an individual event
Janos Hunyadi on September 20, 2008 at 1:52 PM
She would do it only if McCain gets in there and turns out to be an utter let-down.
Trust me, I think McCain is smart enough to let her do her thing.
Sir Andrew on September 20, 2008 at 1:53 PM
This is just silly. Quite frankly, I don’t think we’d all be as excited over Sarah Palin if she were running for president. SHe does not have the experience she needs. I do not say that as a criticism of her. Its just true. So lets focus on the immediate task at hand – McCain/Palin ‘08.
HawaiiLwyr on September 20, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I always assumed that the Palin pick was proof that McCain would only serve one term. I think he wanted a hand in bringing about a future leader to the party.
It's Vintage, Duh on September 20, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Limerick on September 20, 2008 at 1:46 PM
LOL!
For all you young whoopa snappas, here’s the link:
Boots Palin!
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Are you just trying to pander to the mouth-breathers on the right who have a “thing” for Palin and couch their approval in sexual terms, or have you finally swallowed the full glass of Politico’s Obama-tainted Kool-Ade?
I’m disappointed and saddened to see that so much of Palin’s support comes from guys with a “crush” who turn into the equivalent of high-school boys drooling over skin mags when her name is mentioned and not people who want to see a responsible, ethical person on the road to the White House.
We’re getting close to the kind of mindless veneration Osama Obama gets, and that’s not good.
Principles, people, principles!
Get McCain-Palin elected this year, re-elect McCain in ‘12 if he chooses and has built the kind of record I suspect he will, and worry about Palin after that.
If Obama wins, we may not have to worry about electing anyone by then. Presidents-For-Life and Messiahs don’t tend to call elections….
MrScribbler on September 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Let’s concentrate on November and go from there.
SoulGlo on September 20, 2008 at 2:00 PM
It’s one thing to run against a President who got in by accident (Agnew and Nixon resigning at separate times). It would be another to run against the elected President.
It’s one thing to run for mayor or governor against an incumbent of the same party, it would be another to run for President.
She might consider what happened to Nixon. He lost when ran as Vice-President, but won again 8 years later. She would certainly be of acceptable age to do so (52 and 60).
amazingmets on September 20, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Get McCain-Palin elected this year, re-elect McCain in ‘12 if he chooses and has built the kind of record I suspect he will, and worry about Palin after that.
MrScribbler on September 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Worry?
Don’t you understand this story is completely ridiculous?
Saltysam on September 20, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Mccain will be 76 in four years, and with the current partisan nastiness that permeates, he may be done.
Mccain is generally a nice guy, and lacks the mean streak necessary to really excel in these types of campaigns. If he had it, this race would be over given Obama’s credentials and baggage.
I do agree the current race is a tossup, and we should wait until December to start planning for 2012. One big even either way could change the course of this race, and I think October’s events will shape the results.
crscott on September 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM
I’d rather have a conservative than a populist running on the republican ticket, and neither McCain nor Palin seem to fit the bill. Neither one sends a thrill up my leg lately.
Vashta.Nerada on September 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM
I am not ready. I am also not ready for an invasion from outer space in 2012, even though I consider that to be a bit more likely.
It must be a slooooooow news day. Well except for the economy being in such mortal danger that our nations financial system is being turned into a socialist one almost overnight. Other than that small matter of course.
KentAllard on September 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Wait a minute. I thought we were supposed to be convinced that McCain would never survive four years and that then we would have placed an ingenue into the most powerful office in the world.
Now we’re supposed to believe (a) they’ll win in 2008, (b) they’ll both be hale and hearty in 2012, (c) they’ll both want to be president then, and (d) a nasty battle will ensue, with only the barracuda swimming away in one piece.
JudetheFossil on September 20, 2008 at 2:06 PM
I had already considered that the Mav may have picked the wrong Maverick. I can foresee some serious Maverick heads a butting in D.C. if they win. She wears the cotton in this grouping, and I sure has heck would not want to make a mistake in either crossing her or not doing the ethical thing. Yep, I see fireworks and she will take him to the woodshed. He had better be watching her with eyes in the back of his head, and with that thought, I think that is why when Sean asked her about what her role would be in as McCain’s VP she had a very specific answer. He is going to attempt to keep her busy doing what she does best in the energy field.
However, I do not think it will end there for her. I would be willing to bet she is going to jump on Congress with the clippy in her head and her gun in hand! LMAO! Can you not just envision her flinging down her recent kill in front of Speaker Meme and saying, “Girlfriend, you are not doing what I said to do! Do you want to look like this dead moose?”
freeus on September 20, 2008 at 2:07 PM
You dam# right I am ready for lady Barracuda vs. the honorable John McCain.
“ALL RISE,PLEASE WELCOME,THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
MRS.SARARH PALIN”.
Yea, I am more than ready for that.
On a side note.
The MSM is trying to push all this “covert racism” because a black man and a white woman were in the same ad together.
Does this not make it nearly impossible for them to deny the racism in Obama and his 20 yr. relationship with Rev. Wright when the McCain campaign start to hit them over the head with it.
If you are going to bend your head clear behind your back and circle back around looking for racism,how are you going
to deny it when it is thrown in your face with Wright spewing his hatred from the pulpit.
Remember,he is an advocate of Cone’s separatist theology and says he supports it 100%:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JC18Aa01.html
Here is a quote from Cone, explaining black liberation theology (hat tip: Spengler, a pseudonymous columnist for the Asia Times):
Funny how liberals find racism except when it is coming from their party.
Baxter Greene on September 20, 2008 at 2:08 PM
I really do like and admire Sarah Palin. And of course, I’m a long time McCainiac.
But Palin should at least come up with some new material. She’s still making the same “jokes” and light banter she did at the convention. Yes, I know your husband won the dog race, and works on the pipeline. Yes, I know you took on the GOP establishment in your state. Yes, I know you told Congress “Thanks but no thanks” on the bridge to nowhere.
Just sayin’. Freshen it up!
JetBoy on September 20, 2008 at 2:09 PM
By picking someone he’d met once before in his life?
Allahpundit on September 20, 2008 at 2:09 PM
I think we should concentrate on the first 4 years right now.
Terrye on September 20, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Face it, this is all she has. If she had more, don’t you think she’d be using it by now?
Allahpundit on September 20, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Let me translate this:
Palin’s burning ambition = Driven to succeed.
her ruthlessness = not looking the other way.
her complete lack of loyalty
to political patrons = Works for her constituents.
TheSitRep on September 20, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Yep, all the others he had met were dirty party hacks.
TheSitRep on September 20, 2008 at 2:12 PM
That’s my take. McCain can’t commit to a one term deal as it would make him an instant “lame duck.” But, “guide/mentor to the first woman President.” works for 2012
Linh_My on September 20, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Bingo – glad someone else sees it. Now, can someone put on some heat to get her and her running mate to stop bashing the business community?
Vashta.Nerada on September 20, 2008 at 2:13 PM
If you actually believe that, that explains a lot.
Go play around in cspan archives and listen to her interviews or read some of the transcripts from Governors’ meetings. Just because she has overplayed and repeated herself (a theme in the McCain campaign) doesn’t mean the tank is empty.
Spirit of 1776 on September 20, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Policy differences and corrupt behavior are not the same thing. She’ll be a loyal wing man – Johnny’s goin’ for 8.
T J Green on September 20, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Puppy love?
KentAllard on September 20, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Well, thanks for being more open about your bias against Palin and your disdain for your commenters. Can’t say you’ve kept it well hidden.
Blake on September 20, 2008 at 2:17 PM
1. Stop whining, really.
2. What are you talking about? What’s the evidence of my “disdain”?
Allahpundit on September 20, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Is Allahpundit a hero
Or maybe just a fiddling Nero
But he sure has spunk
Oh bunk
The man’s a turncoat lout
No, he’s just not one to with the talking points shout
The secret simply will not keep
For Hotair’s losing sleep
It’s time to break the spell
Won’t someone bloody tell?
Who is Allahpundit?
Tav on September 20, 2008 at 2:20 PM
What am I going to find in C-SPAN’s archives except discussions about energy and Alaskan issues? I’m not accusing her of being stupid, I’m accusing her of not having much to say (yet) about national policy, aside from energy of course.
Allahpundit on September 20, 2008 at 2:21 PM
One election at a time, please.
SKYFOX on September 20, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Palin won’t be “acceptable” to MSM as Presidential material until she spends 20 years in the Senate and looks like a truck hit her.
Speedwagon82 on September 20, 2008 at 2:31 PM
I really have to agree with Allah here…
At first, I really though McCain would pick Crist. All the HA conservatives were pushing hard for Palin or Jindal. And lo, it’s Palin. Gotta admit, I was caught up in the excitement of the moment too. And she delivered a knockout speech in Minn.
But ever since, she’s still relying on the same talking points day in and day out. And her interviews so far have been less than stellar.
I’m certainly not saying she’s not bright, or not an effective leader. I give her a lot of credit for what shes done in a short time in Alaska.
But as each day goes by, she’s looking less and less impressive.
JetBoy on September 20, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I’m sure our opponents would love to sow that seed of mistrust, but I wouldn’t want it to come to that. I kinda hope McCain serves one term. Then, see Palin run with a re-elected Gov. Jindal. Serve two terms. Then have Jindal run. Ah, a conservative can dream, can’t he?!
CP on September 20, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I must have misread you then, because I thought you said you agreed with Jetboy’s comment and said she didn’t have anything else, which I should note doesn’t even address energy. His complaint was that her speech was stale.
Regardless, I’ll tell you what you will find there. You will find evidence of someone who thinks globally, but acts locally. You asked once before her selection for her supporters to make the case. That’s why we liked her. She did talk about Alaskan issues in those interviews, but criticism of that is, in my opinion, as silly as the NYT complaining Rudy talked about NY and 9/11. That’s where they operated on the battlefield, so they must talk about that.
She understands energy, but she understands energy in context of American security, in context of financial conservatism, etc. What do people expect her to have done? Opined on Iraq? That would have been inappropriate previously, so now she comes out and supports no retreat. Israel. Had a flag in her office? Social issues? Lived it by example. Budget issues? 7 pages of vetoes.
No, she didn’t have 300 foreign policy advisors in Alaska. Yes, her speech is getting old. So maybe she should go speak at a rally focused on keeping Iran from getting nukes. Apparently that’s the measure for gravitas as the Dems sure don’t want her to show up and show her ignorance publicly. The media has played up this theme, if it’s true Biden will destroy her in the debate. If it’s false the democrats will try to keep her from national platforms like the Iran thing and will misrepresent her answers on key issues. Which is what we’ve seen.
Spirit of 1776 on September 20, 2008 at 2:36 PM
McCain squandered the bump and enthusiasm from the Palin convention.
It is still early, but if McCain does not get pushing harder and smarter and if Palin is kept hidden away….
well…..anyway it will be the debates that decide the election.
During the debates Obama… uh…uh… uh…will… have…uh…telepromter….uh
…uh…hold on a minute…uh…lack there of, uh, problems.
Uh…hopefully.
And any good dirt (long lost tapes, info on Obama) McCain may have on Obama he will be too much of a gentleman to use it at all or in a timely fashion.
2012 is too long off. If McCain/Palin don’t win in November, it will probably be the end of any future national politics for Palin. Republicans will look for a fall
guygal for the loss…albill on September 20, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I thought JetBoy meant she didn’t have “anything else” in terms of anything else to say — yet — about national policy. (That’s what the intensive briefings from McCain’s advisors are about, no?) It’s not a question of intelligence, it’s a question of familiarity with the issues. Needless to say, you don’t get to be governor of a state by being a dummy. And I’ve referred in other posts to her flashes of brilliance as a retail politician.
I will admit, though, that I expected her to be a bit more up to speed on national policy than she’s seemed to be thus far. But maybe that’s because Gibson didn’t ask the right questions. The Couric interview should shed some light.
Allahpundit on September 20, 2008 at 2:41 PM
It’s called a stump speech. That is how it is done. A slight variation of the same speech appealing to the different crowds she addresses in person. I’m sorry she is not personally addressing you every day with what you want to hear, but really, get over yourself. As to her interviews being less than stellar — that is your opinion. It just amazes me the number of self proclaimed campaign experts we have in these comments.
Blake on September 20, 2008 at 2:41 PM
McCain’s not running again, albill. Just ask John Kerry, or Al Gore, or Bob Dole …. There’s no reason to throw Palin under the bus.
wise_man on September 20, 2008 at 2:41 PM
This type of thread is Troll Bait, and……..here one is!!
Notice its depth of intelligence, and the broad scope of its understanding. It managed to put two whole words together in another lame insult.
I think it’s Dave Rywall on his mom’s computer…….
Janos Hunyadi on September 20, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Why do we start these “flights of fantasy” and run threads on them? It is so far in the future and so unlikely that it is stupid, stupid, and more stupid.
duff65 on September 20, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Don’t get distracted about 2012 when 2008 is not clear..
“It’s tough making predictions, especially about the future”
-Yogi Berra
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Don’t get distracted about 2012 when 2008 is not clear..
“It’s tough making predictions, especially about the future”
-Yogi Berra
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 2:46 PM
For the record, yes…that’s exactly what I was saying. Here’s a fresh new face in the national political arena, and we’re being served the same talking points and same handful of issue stances we’ve been hearing since day one. You can watch Palin give a speech yesterday, and it’s the same speech she gave at the convention. I’m sayin’, we get it. Now, it’s time for Palin to show she’s on top of ALL the major issues. Not just resting on her laurels of accomplishments in Alaska. Over and over again.
JetBoy on September 20, 2008 at 2:46 PM
I am under the impression that the briefings were about getting on the same page as McCain. I read just before her speech that they made a binder of all McCain’s speeches for her to study. The point that I am attempting to make her is she is studying his positions. I think it extremely implausible for us to assume she doesn’t have strong and formulated opinions on foreign policy. Her son volunteered to serve, those things don’t usually happen in a vacuum.
Point taken again. However, she asked him what her role would be in his administration. That is clearly her focus, and obviously his as well. The narrative created, however, is “is she ready to be President?” That’s fair question, which must be answered no. Might she be ready by next year? Probably, but at this second? No. That’s why the media wants the debate on that issue.
The way to measure her is how effective will she be in what she is asked to do. I think her history indicates she will be extremely effective.
Spirit of 1776 on September 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Not only is 2008 NOT clear, but WHAT the Democrats have done in Congress from 2006-the Present IS NOT Clear..
How did the Banking sub-committee, and the other sub-committees and all the senators allow and fuel the collapse of the stocks?
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 2:52 PM
I never claimed to be a “campaign expert”…I take it you must be one tho.
On the other hand, I’m a voter. Which is why nominees go on these stumps. To garner votes.
Of course I’m voting for McCain/Palin. I’ve been pushing for Mac since the day after *tear* Fred Thompson dropped out. But I’d just like to see MORE of what Sarah Palin stands for. Her opinion on a variety of pressing issues. Unless I missed something, I’m just not getting it.
JetBoy on September 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM
She is not just talking to you, remember SHE Just CAME Onto the Scene, Nobody knows who she is, Most people, do not know who she is and unless you are a political geek like we are, for lots of people that is the first time that they have herd her say it. (How many times did Obama repeat himself with same BS for 18 months? ALOT! he hasn’t done squat! so he didn’t have much to talk about! how many times could he say bush sucks?)
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 2:56 PM
I realize that, Chakra. But she shouldn’t wait until a TV interview to expand on her positions. She should be doing it now…as she campaigns. Does she need time to go over the issues, and make a decision? I’d prefer someone who’s already up to speed on that, but again…I admire the heck out of her. I really do.
Which is why I’d like to know more. But as part of the new breed of the GOP, she should have at least formulated her positions by now.
JetBoy on September 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Instead of Obama trying to fix the housing and loan problems, all he was doing was taking the MOST campaign cash from the corrupt lobbyist at Fanniee and Freddie, trying undermine the war effort and bashing the President, so that he could try and gain power for HIMSELF.
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM
When you got trolls in your blog neighborhood
Who you gonna call?
Janos the troll buster!
He sees them here
He sees them there
Janos sees them most anywhere!
He sees them to the left
He sees them to the right
Janos sees them all day and half night!
Tav on September 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM
She doesn’t have the luxury of 18 months to “get to meet the folks”(Without doing her job) NOR does she have the luxury of a Favorable and Adoring Liberal Media(that will only say and print good things and ignore all negative news, and actually go into hot pursuit actually looking harder for a story for dirt on her than they do looking to try and find or uncover terrorist cells in America or abroad).
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 3:08 PM
It would be no contest. Palin by a landslide.
Zorro on September 20, 2008 at 3:10 PM
If McCain/Palin don’t win in November, it will probably be the beginning of the end of
any future national politics for Palinour republic. – albill on September 20, 2008 at 2:38 PMFixed it.
ManlyRash on September 20, 2008 at 3:11 PM
What would be a bigger story for the Liberal Media?
Uncovering a Islamic Terrorist Cell in New York?
or
Sarah Palin uses a tanning bed?
hmmmmmmm..
Chakra Hammer on September 20, 2008 at 3:11 PM
If McCain/Palin loses, Palin goes back to finish her term as governor and then runs for the Senate in 2010, and then the POTUS in 2016 with Jindal on the ticket.
Sapwolf on September 20, 2008 at 3:16 PM
It’s not about “meeting the folks”…or about the MSM. It’s simply about at least having a stance, and the ability to defend it.
Not for nothing, but I’m starting to see a lot of Palin-apologists blindly supporting her. Like I said, McCain has my vote. He’s the one running for the “big job”…Palin won’t be playing a decisive policy role anyway. But Palin may just be the NEXT Potus nominee. I don’t want to see her make snap decisions on policy she has no clue about, reading the Cliff Notes at the last minute and quickly formulating a position.
She should have a position already. How hard is it to tell us?
JetBoy on September 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM
It could be the formal start of European Socialism. It will be a disaster. In ten years, illegal immigrants will actually start to filter slowly back out of the country as job opportunities become more scarce.
If Obama is elected, I plan to reorganize my finances to get into Yen/Euro denominated investments. The US Dollar will probably still continue its slide over the next generation.
Sapwolf on September 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM
She’s not going to. I hate to disappoint, but it’s true. She’s going to give the McCain line and defer to him. She’ll keep her positions mostly to herself – excepting the ones that are out there already, the pro-life all cases stuff and the Anwar bit.
Spirit of 1776 on September 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM
If McCain wins, no, she’s not going to challenge him in 2012, for the same reasons McCain didn’t challenge Bush in 2004. And unlike some, Palin has a great deal of admiration for McCain.
rightwingprof on September 20, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I don’t agree with all this silly “One term makes you a lame duck” Beltway conventional wisdom. Bush has got nothing done his second term. If you can successfully wait out 4 years, whats the big deal about waiting out 8 when the POTUS is almost guarunteed to be less popular in the last 4 years.
Speedwagon82 on September 20, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Nah. Mccain is not going to run in 2012. Sarah will likewise fade out of the picture.
Huck will be the republican nominee and will defeat the Hildebeast for the presidency in 2012.
SaintOlaf on September 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Wait a minute, I thought McCain was supposed to die of cancer on January 21, 2009. Isn’t that why we are supposed to be so afraid of Sarah Palin?
rockmom on September 20, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Look,we can’t dismiss how important this has been to Obama.
Whatever your problems with Palin as far as experience and
less than stellar interviews,Obama has nowhere near her record or experience.
But everywhere you look,listen,and read,there is an abundance of “Obama’s hope and change”being touted by the MSM,hollywood,and many other outlets.
I mean come on,Obama should have his own section in any of the major book store chains there are so many books out about him.
He should have his own campaign offices set up at MSNBC,Cnn,CBS,NYtimes,and Washington post.All these outlets
have done is provide cover for all his radical associations and ignore the many gaffes and mistakes he has made on his campaign.
Look at the Washington Post this week take McCain to task as dis-honest for putting out an ad that bases it’s conclusions on their own reporting!(Obama’s fannie/Freddie connections).
All this adds up and sways people (especially independents)
that get their information on a 15 minute news cycle.
Every outlet from comedy,newspapers,cable and standard news
programs,magazines and so on have spent the last 3 weeks absolutely tearing this woman apart with bogus,bigoted lies
and slander.The same thing they spent the last eight years doing to Bush,it starts to change peoples perceptions and opinions.That’s why liberals push their insanity so hard,they are able to get away with it while they attack conservatives for “hidden”racism in their ads and make a big
deal out of Palin buying a tanning bed.
Is Palin perfect and ready for the top job,no.
But she is a lot more prepared and experienced than Obama and it is going to take Republicans and our leadership hitting the net,writing their papers,phoning in to talk radio, (McCain/Palin)hitting back at the MSM at every chance,and getting out the vote to overide this pathetic
bias and activism displayed by our information services.
Baxter Greene on September 20, 2008 at 3:51 PM
No. Bobby Jindal vs. Palin, maybe. Duncan Hunter, possibly. I’ve already written McCain off. Jindal has more experience, is far smarter than any of the competition, has proven his leadership skills, has a solid moral foundation, and possesses a resume that’s second to none, as a 37-year-old no less.
Regardless if he’s running or not this year, I’m still very much considering writing him in. He’s by far the best person for the job.
Send_Me on September 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Overtaxing business to give money back to the constituents does not sound too fiscally conservative. It sounds like a boon for Alaskans but not so much for their corporations.
The Race Card on September 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Palin Palin 2012
The Race Card on September 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM
You heard it here first.
The Race Card on September 20, 2008 at 3:55 PM
The Politico story AP links to at the beginning of the post strikes me as psy-ops, designed to get part of the McCain-voting electorate to hesitate and maybe not vote at all. Why even take the bait on this? Gotta beat the nObama Marxists first.
dhawbake on September 20, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Palin – Jindal 2012
Ropera on September 20, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Well Palin must be doing something right with a plus 80% approval rating as Governor in Alaska. The voters seem to approve of her. Corrupt is corrupt, doesn’t matter who is doing it. I don’t think McCain would have anything to worry about, as far as politicians go the Mav is about as honest as they get, in my opinion.
Hog Wild on September 20, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Keep it up, and you’ll go blind; hair will grow on the palms of your hands…………
Janos Hunyadi on September 20, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Seriously, Allah – you’re becoming insufferable.
This post reads like an Op/Ed from the NYT.
Getting Old Fast.
Dorvillian on September 20, 2008 at 4:14 PM
“Seriously, Allah – you’re becoming insufferable.
Dorvillian on September 20, 2008 at 4:14 PM”
Haha. Becoming. Good one.
Kevin M on September 20, 2008 at 4:24 PM
New HA Poll:
If ManlyRash leads Texas to secede, should he let in Allahpundit? Or, would AP’s Eeyore tactics be just too demoralizing for the new Republic of Texas?
:)
Sapwolf on September 20, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Hmmmm… so she’s not a Democrat, she’s a Republican. I see, those folks (or scumbags in the case of the governor) that needed thrown out of office should have just been left alone because she was in their party? I love the way Democrats think. If the guy in office is a scumbag but in YOUR party, support him. Shame on you for thinking of trying to clean it up. Oh, I forgot the oh so clear demonstration of that philosophy. What was that guy’s name… William Jefferson (”Get under the desk honey and hand me my cigar”) Clinton.
It has long been my opinion that if you are going to clean up anything in politics, you should ALWAYS start with your own party. One of her most attractive qualities is that she does not appear to be concerned with the party affiliation of a crook. It’s almost like no one has any idea where the current mess in Washington comes from.
CapedConservative on September 20, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Mr. Race Card,
That is not a tax on the oil companies. It is a royalty they are charged by the people of Alaska to take their oil. The money that went to Alaskans was their share of a royalty rebate, rather than keeping the funds in the main budget.
It would be like if I was the father of a family, with a property where I let people hunt the animals for a fee. Then I kicked some of that money to the son for his weekly allowance. Sort of like that.
Sapwolf on September 20, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Since there’s so much Allah-bashing in this thread, all should remember that although Allah is on our side, I think he’s a little shell-shocked by the anti-Palin MSM barrage and is starting to drink their Kool-Aid. He’ll get better when the election is over, whichever way it turns out.
Also, it’s easiest to picture Allah as The Doctor from “The Hunt For Red October” when he writes a post like this or a “Gulp” post. “But Sir!”
fiatboomer on September 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Agreed. Sarah needs to bone up and begin articulating her thoughts on domestic AND foreign policy.
Perhaps she’s deliberately holding back until she debates Greasy Joe where she’ll come out swingin’ and we’ll all sit there and fall once again in love…
CliffHanger on September 20, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Uh huh. Front end = fee. Back end = tax.
I think she’s a strong advocate for Alaskans. That means she works on their behalf. Screwing the oil companies is not a bad thing here. But the renegotiation of those royalties most certainly made the corps feel like they were getting a little screwed.
Also, doesn’t that oil belong to America?
Also, what’s up with canned hunts?
The Race Card on September 20, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Maybe he just doesn’t slurp down the Kool-Aid that you do. I personally appreciate his measured tones.
This entire thread sounds rabid in their opposition to Allah’s brief consideration of the full spectrum of facts.
The Race Card on September 20, 2008 at 4:58 PM
The way I see it, Sarah can hold off the press who loves her not as they continue to say mean things about her.
She continues the stumps and town halls. She does one or two more softball interviews then during the debate, when you least expect it, she turns into… Sarah Barracuda the Obama/Biden slayer!
CliffHanger on September 20, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I would have agreed with you until he didn’t consider the full spectrum of facts on that stupid ABC Monegan travel document non-story.
fiatboomer on September 20, 2008 at 5:01 PM
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