All’s not lost yet.

Gee, ya think?

That’s because when they say Mccain is ahead, they are telling the truth..but when they say Hussein is ahead, they are lying to us.

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM

That is my point. Not all negative reporting/polls about McCain are lies. He certainly deserves the drop in the polls he is experiencing. He was ill advised to claim the fundamentals of the economy are sound. Especially at that time and the way he did it.

csdeven on September 20, 2008 at 8:26 AM

Mitt Romney, the most qualified to be pres of ALL THE NOMINEES ON BOTH SIDES, would have understood the dynamics of the economy and would not have made a fool of himself as McCain did.

“Will they run to the prophet of change or to the experienced maverick?
olddeadmeat on September 19, 2008 at 11:46 PM

So odm, is that why the conservative Wall Street Journal cut “the experienced maverick” a new “backside exit hatch” yesterday…?

Oh, Ooo…!

J_Gocht on September 20, 2008 at 8:35 AM

Thank you J for the link to the WSJ article. I think this part says it well:

In a crisis, voters want steady, calm leadership, not easy, misleading answers that will do nothing to help. Mr. McCain is sounding like a candidate searching for a political foil rather than a genuine solution. He’ll never beat Mr. Obama by running as an angry populist like Al Gore, circa 2000.

“Will they run to the prophet of change or to the experienced maverick?
olddeadmeat on September 19, 2008 at 11:46 PM

So odm, is that why the conservative Wall Street Journal cut “the experienced maverick” a new “backside exit hatch” yesterday…?

Oh, Ooo…!

That’s because when they say Mccain is ahead, they are telling the truth..but when they say Hussein is ahead, they are lying to us.

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM

That is my point. Not all negative reporting/polls about McCain are lies. He certainly deserves the drop in the polls he is experiencing. He was ill advised to claim the fundamentals of the economy are sound. Especially at that time and the way he did it.

He’s got the job here because he’s very, very good at it–and you can be sure that if I ( who ain’t the president of his fan club ) say that, it’s Painfully True

Janos Hunyadi on September 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM

+1
Readers get over his mannerisms for him.
Allahpundit rules @ HotAir.

The biggest conversion of a free market to a managed socialist economy is occurring right now, and this site has been focused on Palin and Obama. The only economic event that has been more significant in our history is the Great Depressino

Olddeadmeat

I share your concerns!!

When HotAir headlines seem to “lag” it’s usually because a lot of deep research is happening before jumping the gun with a thread. I hope.

I posted my opinion, that curing fascism with more fascism only places us further under the iron boot of slavery to owners.

I would rather that the offending legislated urtext be purged. I do not doubt that we are in extreme circumstances. But the remedy being sold by the Feds to Congress is only a stronger version of the plague with which we are besieged. They can’t sell it as a vaccine when it’s death, but they are. And I’m not buying it.

$.02

1) Beat Obama in the debates. (I.e., make him get specific.)
2) Blast ads featuring, and I do mean FEATURING, Mrs. Palin as his secret weapon in reforming Washington.

Actually, he may only need to do one of these two things to win. Either will do. Doing both will make it indisputable.

Janos Hunyadi on September 20, 2008 at 1:21 AM

You have about the same intelligence as a tree stump. Look at the polls from just today as you don’t have to go any further than just that. Gallup has Obama up by 5 and Ras has it a tie. Both cover the same time range and have approximately 3000 as their sample size. Obviously at least one of them, and these are 2 of the top polls, is off, and that is just what they are off with each other today.

You say that there is ALWAYS, ALWAYS a “Bradley effect”. Has it ever occurred to you that there could actually be some possibility of even a reverse “Bradley effect”? Obviously not as with your ALWAYS ALWAYS your very limited mind see only a certainty of a “Bradley effect” and one that is big enough to be proven by the difference between polling and the actual election results. You seem to have never heard of the exit polling from 2004 and how wrong that was. I think that it is far more likely that the pollsters did a bad job than that people lied to them in large numbers.

all of this Leftie Troll’s posts are ignorant, but this might be the dumbest yet

Some polling outfits have a proven track record of being usually accurate within their stated margin of error, which is all anyone can hope for. If the troll had actually followed polls for any length of time and studied how they work, it would know that. Obvously this leftard hopes there will be no ‘Bradley effect’ BUT THERE ALWAYS IS

ALWAYS

Polling means a stranger calls you at home in the evening or on Saturday and asks you who you intend to vote for. The stranger knows your name and where you live, which is always unnerving.

They ask which party you are registered with, and if they’re any good they ask you if you have voted in two or all of the last three nationwide elections (if so, you are a ‘likely voter’ ) They will likely ask you about one or more issues, and may ask for demographic data.

A typical ‘good poll’ calls 1500 people; about 1100 on average will answer the questions.

I think we may be looking at a Republican landslide. That is what I think about these polls.

JellyToast on September 19, 2008 at 6:21 PM

+1

McCain has been getting some really bad advice of late. God knows he’s not sharp enough to dream it up by himself.

I don’t think its Karl Rove. He was warning McCain last week about making up unsubstantiated statements concerning Obama’s record.

J_Gocht on September 19, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Yeah, lying is NOT a good thing when one touts themselves as the Straight Talk Express. Duh…

But, know hope.

The panelists all acknowledged that if Obama is not leading by 5-7% by November 4, he will lose. They said it was racism, but could it possibly be policy-ism? Plus they don’t know how to deal with it, they all had a different attack plan and they all contradicted each other. They are scared. McCain and Palin really have them shaken. I liked that part.

Actually, no one fully understands what has been happening, but they know enough to be scared to death.

Why else do you think Congress agreed to bail out the entire housing market in less than 2 days? Min with both parties committing to effectively spend hundreds of billions of dollars with no discussion and almost no negotiating for political advantage or oversight at all?.

Have you noticed how many blank checks have been handed out lately? Freddie, Fannie, AIG (also a blank check – that $85 billion will evaporate faster than spit on a hot griddle) and now this.

The polls are meaningless, utterly, because the public has not yet grasped how frightened the experts and the policy makers are.

When the public does realize how brown some experts’ pants are, there really will be no way to predict how they will swing. Will they run to the prophet of change or to the experienced maverick?

I’m willing to concede that Paulson and Bernake probably understand the economy and severity of the problem better than I do.

So, I’ll let them do their job of saving the markets from a crash, while I harmlessly opine on meaningless polls.

Anyway, we should all take a lesson from 2006. Many of us thought the polls were too skewed for the Dems, but they ended up being fairly accurate. So, stand up and fight for America!!!

Contrary to what one might think if one’s only source for information was the political class – there has not been a lot of movement. The movement we have seen seems to have been pretty orderly – with McCain solidifying his Republican base.

We also see a group of undecided voters who have not yet made a choice. They will probably be decisive. In a race with only two salient candidates – the goal is to hit 50%-plus-one. Both McCain and Obama can still do that via the undecided voters, who are becoming the critical voting block.

Aren’t these the same polls that had Bush down in both ‘00 and ‘04 and he still won?

Yakko77 on September 19, 2008 at 6:33 PM

One word: Diebold. :-)

Get out of your bubble guys.

The biggest conversion of a free market to a managed socialist economy is occurring right now, and this site has been focused on Palin and Obama. The only economic event that has been more significant in our history is the Great Depressino

There more important things to talk about than the horse race at the moment.

Get out your bubble guys.

We like pollsters when they fit our meme, but the next day or week we disparage the same pollster as a hack when their polling doesn’t benefit our guy.

All hail to Allah!

csdeven on September 19, 2008 at 3:11 PM

That’s because when they say Mccain is ahead, they are telling the truth..but when they say Hussein is ahead, they are lying to us.

Oh well, off to the movies.

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