Gallup: Obama gains another point, leads McCain by five; Update: McCain gains, within one in Hotline poll

posted at 1:49 pm on September 19, 2008 by Allahpundit

Fourth day in a row that The One has gained, leaving him one point shy of his all-time high. If the CW’s correct and this is mostly a byproduct of the financial meltdown, then the market surge today on news of the bailout could reverse the trend next week. If it’s not correct and this is a more general swing back towards Obama, then Maverick had better punctuate every answer at the debates with, “Have I mentioned I’m a war hero?”

Even the battlegrounds look bad per the new Marist poll, although scan the internals and you’ll see Palin’s net favorables are better than recent polls would indicate. She’s no lower than +15 in any of the three states, and in Ohio she’s +22 — the widest margin of any of the four candidates on either ticket. Exit question: Second look at Palinmania?

Update: All’s not lost yet. Maverick trailed by four in yesterday’s Hotline poll and now he’s back within one, on the same day that worries about the economy have hit an all-time high. How to explain it? Hmmm:

More anti-Obama Fannie ads, please. Good news for Palin too, thanks no doubt to the Hannity interview — she’s now back ahead of McCain and Biden in net favorables and just a point behind The One.

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Sure.

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Get back to me after we know the sample breakdown.

Rogue on September 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM

YES!!!

barry norris on September 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Keep hope alive, folks. Remember, exit polls on election day had Kerry winning. We all remember how THAT turned out…

Pasalubong on September 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Do you get the sense that the swing in the polls has slowed at all Allah? Do you only see negatives out there? McCain is not handling this at all by laying out a detailed plan and linking Obama to the problem, not the solution?

Too bad all McCain can do is say “I’m a war hero”

Guess we’re doomed.

kerrhome on September 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM

It’s not even a ball game until the debates.

Hening on September 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM

McCain squandered his lead with stupidass lipstick ads (and I’m one who agrees with him that Obama called Palin a pig). He should’ve slammed Obama on important things instead.

Darth Executor on September 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM

you’ll see Palin’s net favorables are better than recent polls would indicate.

I am not surprised. Nor am I particularly worried about the polls right now. There is still a lot of game to be played and McCain is in a good position for stretch run.

Spirit of 1776 on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Exit question: Second look at Palinmania?

I’m still on my first look. Lookin’ pretty good. Deal with it you lousy pessimist.

VolMagic on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Umm.. Obama is going to win, Republicans are screwed and will probably be out of action for the next decade. Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. :(

Exit question: Who should I have pay my extra taxes?

Illinidiva on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Why does Rush keep saying that if Obama isn’t up by 10-15 in the polls that he won’t win?

hisfrogness on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

McCain squandered his lead with stupidass lipstick ads

I think those were a mistake too. I like the wolf ad, but the victimhood + sexism crap gave away the initiative. Recent ads bode well, though.

Spirit of 1776 on September 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM

McCain squandered his lead with stupidass lipstick ads (and I’m one who agrees with him that Obama called Palin a pig). He should’ve slammed Obama on important things instead.

Darth Executor on September 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Can’t argue with that. It was a bad move. Hopefully we’re past it now.

kerrhome on September 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Exit question: Second look at Palinmania?

Well, those of us without NYC-sized pessimism never got over out first look at Palinmania.

It's Vintage, Duh on September 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM

This week’s ads should have been last week’s ads. But I’ll take what I can get. All is not lost yet. Buck up, little camper.

DrSteve on September 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Gallup is not the best poll.

Watch Rasmussen and the debates, and more McCain adds sticking it to the One.

Sapwolf on September 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Not to worry.

Obama has the advantage until the debates because the MSM controls the message this week.

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM

A Few Things:

(-) We’ve yet to hit the debates. Candidates are made and broken there, depending on how they perform.

(-) For some reason, Rasmussen hasn’t shown the same trend. The tracker still shows them tied.

(-) McCain’s only begun hitting Obama on his connections to Fannie & Freddie. That could end up hurting The One.

amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Rasmussen has them tied at 48 and Hotline has Mac only down one.

bard on September 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM

McCain squandered his lead with stupidass lipstick ads

Darth Executor on September 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Yep.

amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Why does Rush keep saying that if Obama isn’t up by 10-15 in the polls that he won’t win?

hisfrogness on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Rush doesn’t believe that undecided voters will break for Obama on election day and also doesn’t believe people will answer truthfully given that they don’t want to be labeled as racist if they answer “McCain” on the phone.

kerrhome on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Why does Rush keep saying that if Obama isn’t up by 10-15 in the polls that he won’t win?

He contends that the sampling is designed to great the illusion of a strong Obama comeback. Before the polls came out, right after the convention he predicted that the polls would show a jump in McCain’s numbers to a high enough point that a series of polls would follow to show a point by point disintegration of that lead – for the purpose of fueling a comeback narrative among the media. The polls have in fact done that, though whether for the reasons Rush has said is unknown.

But as was mentioned here the other day, Obama isn’t running a campaign of someone ahead. Whatever his numbers are internally, he’s been acting like he’s behind.

Spirit of 1776 on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

“I lie to exit pollsters.”
–my election day t-shirt

Abby Adams on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Umm.. Obama is going to win, Republicans are screwed and will probably be out of action for the next decade. Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. :(

Exit question: Who should I have pay my extra taxes?

Illinidiva on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

what are you talking about?

You sound like a liberal, you surrender to easy.

Chakra Hammer on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Not buyin’ any of this…

Look at Rasmussen…EVEN!

Wait for the debates.

joepub on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

McCain’s going to mop the floor with Barry in the debates.

Let’s not forget Barry’s thin skin, hubris, and the fact that he’s never actually run against a Republican.

CurtZHP on September 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Take a chill pill AP.

We have 45 days and 4 debates to go.

csdeven on September 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Abby Adams on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Why?

Chakra Hammer on September 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Up, down, sideways. Where have we seen polls like that before?

IMO it will come down to the first debate next Friday. Can’t wait for it so we can get back to Rosie, TheView, and gyrating mechanical devices.

Limerick on September 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Not to worry.

Obama has the advantage until the debates because the MSM controls the message this week.

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM

I worry that the MSM controls the message during the debates too. We know that MSNBC has already decided that Obama won all of these debates (that haven’t happened yet).

kerrhome on September 19, 2008 at 1:58 PM

AP, I’m gonna have to call Dirty Harry and have him pay you a visit. He would call you a “nancy boy” or worse… so don’t make me go there.

http://www.dirtyharrysplace.com/

Mr_Magoo on September 19, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Where was W against Lurch in this polls at this time in the race?

tree hugging sister on September 19, 2008 at 1:58 PM

McCain squandered his lead with stupidass lipstick ads
Darth Executor on September 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Yep.
amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Nope.

It’s ridiculous to even entertain the thought.

wise_man on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Abby Adams on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

“Don’t believe the Exit polls!”
–an election day t-shirt

Country First

Chakra Hammer on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

We have 45 days and 4 debates to go.

csdeven on September 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM

You think there’s going to be debates?

Lol!

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

The unprecedented financial turmoil that happen this week, can anyone be surprised that people are approving Obambi’s magical economic plan. But with this new govt trust, hopefully people will pull away from The One’s central planning ideas.

Lance Murdock on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

heartache.

anna on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Chakra Hammer on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Oh, I thought you were quoting AP. My mistake.

kerrhome on September 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM

This will all turn again with all the Racism talk and the fact that Obama was friends with and advised by the crooks that took down Fannie and Freddie. Unfortunately, the MSM doesn’t mention it, but instead focuses on McCain’s statement about the fundamentals of the economy.

Rick on September 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Why does Rush keep saying that if Obama isn’t up by 10-15 in the polls that he won’t win?

He contends that the sampling is designed to great the illusion of a strong Obama comeback.

No… as he’s said many, many times,he believes that their is a strong “Bradley effect” in the poll results, which skews the numbers towards Obama. It has nothing to do with how the sampling is designed.

DaveS on September 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM

re: palinmania, i am beginning to cringe when i hear her speak these days so i can only imagine what independents are thinking. she needs lots and lots of grooming pre-debate.

anna on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

It was the market mayhem, and some people went toward the “new guy” because that’s what happens when things go bad.

McCain is doing a pretty good job of showing that Obama is not a new guy at all, and is closely associated with the people who screwed this all up.

This issue will help McCain in the long run. The polls will look better in a week when this starts to sink in and is reflected in the polls.

I’m pretty optimistic and still think McCain will win. I mean, the markets tanked, and Obama can still only get up by 5? That’s not good news for BO.

forest on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

This is not surprising. The financial mess blindsided everyone, and all Obama has to say is “this is George W. Bush’s fault and I will change it” and he sounds like a genius–for now.

But McCain has come out with two hard-hitting ads associating former Fannie Mae millionaire managers with the Obama campaign, while McCainm has clearly stated that he wanted to reform Fannie and Freddie back in 2005 while Obama did nothing. You can’t let the fox reform the henhouse, can you? Or the chickens won’t come home to roost!

There are more than 6 weeks left, as well as four debates. Give this time, and after these ads have left their mark, and probably lots of others on Bill Ayers and G-d knows what other sleaze will come stinking up Obama’s history, this too will pass.

Steve Z on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Mac up 3 from yesterday – http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

bard on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

election day t-shirt worn by ladies:

Palin: Hillary, New and Improved

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

wise_man on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Why? People don’t like whiners. Obama lost some of his lead after he pulled the race card. McCain had a very narrow lead when he complained.

amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Don’t forget, AP’s job is to stir the pot!

dmann on September 19, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Let me see now.

In they said Gore was way ahead in Florida.
In 2004 they said kerry was leading in Ohio.

I think the polsters need to be sent to Gitmo myself. Making money doing absolutey nothing. Sounds like members of Congress doesn’t it?

Hey did you see the picture of the worlds tallest building? It was built with our energy money with the help of the Democrats?
It’s in Dabui. Clintons second home.

Rick007 on September 19, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Gallup seems to lag a little bit with wide variations…

ninjapirate on September 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM

But as was mentioned here the other day, Obama isn’t running a campaign of someone ahead. Whatever his numbers are internally, he’s been acting like he’s behind.

Spirit of 1776 on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Very true, and the people in his own party have been showing concern of late.

Rick on September 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM

The Bradley effect is a media lie. Why would anyone need to lie to a person over the phone asking them who they are voting for? It’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Yes Gallup has Obama up 5%. And that is bad but… his overall average is actually down a couple of .10 from yesterday. Two of the other tacking polls say it is a tie. Hotline says 1%. And One poll at 5% is CBS and that doesn’t say the poll is even of RV it may be the public at large. I actually think that Obama may have peaked again.

I sure hope the markets settle down so we get back to McCain’s strengths. McCain really needs to shave Obama’s advantage on the economy…. I think McCain needs to push the connections with Fannie no matter what the Post says.

If Obama has to explain then he loses. So McCain needs to be accurate but make Obama explain publically his connections and what the donations were for.

I never have thought McCain was great in debates. And Palin is so new to this… I hope the debates are as good as we hope.

In the Primary did anyone think McCain won even one of the debates? Often he came off as petulant.

Didn’t I hear that Shiffer is the host for a couple of them? People should start making the point than when there is something as important as a Presidential debate even the Media goes for the most experienced not the newbies.

Emphasizing Obama’s lack of experience before they even step up on stage. The the whole debate will seem like two guys who know the ropes and one guy in over his head.

petunia on September 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM

The Bradley effect is a media lie. Why would anyone need to lie to a person over the phone asking them who they are voting for? It’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

It’s not a lie if you look at Bradley and Wilder’s election returns… hence the name “Bradley/Wilder Effect”.

Pasalubong on September 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM

what are you talking about?

You sound like a liberal, you surrender to easy.

Chakra Hammer on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

A. I’m talking about who I’m going to blame when I have to pay extra money for the Messiah’s socialist health care policies.

B. I’m a bigger pessimist that AP. I’m 26, so it’s not like I actually remember any satisfying election results (The only vaguely satisfying one was 2004). So this is really just par from the course and in line with the stupidity of the American people. I’m sure that we’ll get an equally unsatisfying election in four years (probably the Messiah blowing out Plastic Mitt or Professor Jindal).

Illinidiva on September 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Why does Rush keep saying that if Obama isn’t up by 10-15 in the polls that he won’t win?

hisfrogness on September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Rush doesn’t believe that undecided voters will break for Obama on election day and also doesn’t believe people will answer truthfully given that they don’t want to be labeled as racist if they answer “McCain” on the phone.

kerrhome on September 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM

I think you’re right. Let the race-baiting by the Obama camp finish filtering through. Obama’s disgusting use of racist attacks this week was overplayed. It’s no longer just guilt by association with the likes of Wright — the tactics trace directly to Obama and Biden. The attack on Rush was foolhardy. Rush will keep Obama’s slimy tactics in full-view for anyone not in complete denial to see.

Undecideds and moderates will pull the McCain lever in the voting booth, irrespective of what they say to pollsters.

Y-not on September 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM

What if some of the pollsters like the Media are giving “cover” to a candidate? This political season should have one watch word and that is “Perception”

Dr Evil on September 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Has Biden called Rangle yet to tell him to get with the program? PAY YOUR TAXES DUMMY.

Biden is nothing more than a Con Artist. And so are the rest of the DEmocrats.

Rick007 on September 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Actually there is still room for hope. First it seems that Obama’s bump in the polls seems to slow down. Second, the financial crisis happend now, with 45 days before the election, so it can be recuperated. I put a lot of the move for Obama on the emotion created by the meltdown on Wall Street. I except the race to tie again in a few days.

clemycali on September 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Good. Don’t want people getting complacent.

Citizen Duck on September 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM

My gosh AP how much fiber do you eat? It seems at every turn you just have to crap on Palin.

The polls are BS, they always have been. You report on them as if they actually mean anything.

I sometimes wonder if you work on the side for the pollsters because you come off sounding like you are trying to form negative opinions.

RobertInAustin on September 19, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Time to get to work.

Right_of_Attila on September 19, 2008 at 2:07 PM

We can’t really blame the McCain camp for this. The media went on a nuclear, scorched earth campaign as soon as Palin was announced… and it’s starting to work.

Meanwhile, they continue to wipe Obama’s ass for him, cover up all his screw ups, report none of his crimes, and refuse to report anything remotely negative about him. Meanwhile, they report ever smear and lie that comes out of Camp Obama, Daliy Kos, Huffpo, etc. and undeniable fact and use teams of media employed Obama surrogates to gang up and berate anyone who challenges Obama.

They are openly praising him as the Savior We Need for the economy, despite the fact that everything in his “plan”, his record and his speeches accomplishes the precise opposite.

Bush and Paulson are burning the midnight oil… and it’s working, while Reid is crying “No one knows what to do” and Pelosi is planning her vacation calendar. McCain predicted and took action on this years ago- Obama simply says lies and more of the same… and the media parrots him.

Folks, we have descended into outright insanity on a scale not seen since the rise of Hitler.

Damiano on September 19, 2008 at 2:08 PM

lets talk about the polls with PRESIDENT kerry…the exit polls had him winning the presidency, after all…

right4life on September 19, 2008 at 2:08 PM

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM

My bad.

;-)

csdeven on September 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM

The Bradley effect is a media lie. Why would anyone need to lie to a person over the phone asking them who they are voting for? It’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM

It’s a lie? It was named after a guy who actually suffered it. Tom Bradley lead in the 1982 California governor’s race polls, yet lost the actual vote. David Dinkins and Jesse Jackson also saw larger leads in the polls than they got on election day. Obama himself may’ve already seen it, taking less of the vote than the polls showed in primary states.

amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

It’s not a lie if you look at Bradley and Wilder’s election returns… hence the name “Bradley/Wilder Effect”.

Pasalubong on September 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I know where the term comes from. Answer this. Why would a “racist” lie to someone on the other end of a phone line?

You are saying a “racist” would admit to someone on the phone that they were going to vote for a black man?

It’s the stupidest, most twisted logic I have ever heard.

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

“Umm.. Obama is going to win, Republicans are screwed and will probably be out of action for the next decade. Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. :(“

IlliniDiva, That is my fear now too. The MSM backing is the decider. If for some reason they get God in the next 6 weeks and expose Omummer’s affiliations for a full airing he would not have a chance.

They won’t though, the fix is in on that front.

I do believe the debates could help and maybe we get some 527 groups to come in with some late October ads.

One fault with your quote Diva, it’s not for the next 10 years. This election is for the future course of the USA. In 10 years Obummer and his brand of socialism will invite a new generation of entitled.
The slow road to a welfare state would begin.
I don’t suggest this lightly.

FireBlogger on September 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

The economy is not going to be a positive issue for the dems in the next few days and beyond.

There is a huge bailout coming.

EVERYONE SHOULD BUY BANK STOCKS NOW BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Bank stocks balance sheets are going to look really clean, soon and the existing 2 year supply of real estate is going to be spread out over 4 years due to the new RTC being formed as we speak.

Mccain will be leading on both the economy AND energy…it’s game over for Hussein Obama!

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Even though Commander-in-chief Rush Limbaugh has set Operation Chaos on the back burner, I am convinced that many are continuing it by giving pollsters erroneous info.

And it will continue on the election day exit polls as a way of screwing the media.

pocomoco on September 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Obama is asking his followers, the young and the dumb, to get in people’s face and argue on his behalf.

For those lefties that wish to have tips on how to promote Barack Obama when you get in their faces:

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=57

Throw Obama away.

AdrianS on September 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Where was W against Lurch in this polls at this time in the race?

W was up by 2 points at this stage of the race.

I don’t think we’re looking at the same type of race this cycle though. For the most part the ‘Any change is preferable’ position is very strong. McCain is Republican as is Bush. That’s what a lot of rank and filers see right now. Its amazing that the Republicans and McCain by extension have taken so many hits the past six months and Mccain is still in striking distance.

Now we’ve just had this HUGE financial disaster and for the moment the ‘Any change’ idea is dominating. BUT, Obama’s basic position of raising taxes, expanding and creating new expensive programs and his ties to the worst offenders in this mess as contrasted to McCain’s reasoned approach as well as his fight against the specific FM and FM corruption as early as five years ago will make Obama’s position untenable eventually. The debates will help shine the spotlight on this but right now hardly any of these things are getting through to the vast MSM.

JonPrichard on September 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Mac up 3 from yesterday – http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

bard on September 19, 2008 at 2:01 PM

There’s an interesting “internal” from that poll. Who does better handling the economy:
Today Obama 44-41.
Three days ago Obama 47-36.

McCain has closed 8 points on this issue in three days, and this is BEFORE anyone saw the ads on Raines and Johnson. Within a few days (or at least after the first debate) McCain will OWN this issue, and voters worried about an economic meltdown will turn to McCain for a sure hand on the economic tiller.

Steve Z on September 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM

I know where the term comes from. Answer this. Why would a “racist” lie to someone on the other end of a phone line?

You are saying a “racist” would admit to someone on the phone that they were going to vote for a black man?

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

No. Some people who aren’t racist feel guilty about voting for the white guy over the black guy. They feel that they have to prove they aren’t racist by saying that they’re willing to vote for the black guy. This isn’t a new effect; It’s been witnessed for over 26 years.

amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Bradley effect on steroids.

Akzed on September 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM

I do not care what any of the polls say…..Even if Obama is up the week before the election I predict McCain by 7 points.

McCain will win OH, CO, NV, VA, FL, and I believe PA as well. Then we will all have to suffer with months if not years of racism claims by the media and the tools of the Democratic party. People will reject Obama not because he is Black but because he is unqualified and a Marxist.

azcop on September 19, 2008 at 2:13 PM

I know where the term comes from. Answer this. Why would a “racist” lie to someone on the other end of a phone line?

Who says they’re “racist”? The Bradley effect just means there’s a phenomenon of people telling pollsters one thing and then doing another when it comes to a black candidate. Who knows their motivations? It’s just silly to think Obama is 100% immune to the effect, too.

Pasalubong on September 19, 2008 at 2:13 PM

The debates? You mean the ones being run by the reporters who seems to only be able to say these days that McCain is a liar and a racist?

T. Brokaw: Sen. McCain, why are you such a big fat liar?
And, oh yeh, have you always been a racist?

blue13326 on September 19, 2008 at 2:13 PM

For whatever it’s worth, AOL’s poll (stop that laughing!) has McCain beating Obobo 64% to 36% with something like 120,000 votes cast. Don’t know how scientific/accurate this poll is or what it represents other than that it’s a straw poll. But AOL is just as in the tank as the rest of the MSM so maybe it’s something?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

J.J. Sefton on September 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Well, those of us without NYC-sized pessimism never got over out first look at Palinmania.

It’s Vintage, Duh on September 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM

I have Rocky Mountain sized optometrist hippopotamus optical illusion (damn spell check) optimism , but not about Palin. For some reason I have not been able to warm to her at all after the RNC. It’s not pessimism, it’s because something fundamental is missing. Maybe it’s the lack of policy depth.
Maybe it’s the limited range in topics she has. Maybe it’s because I’m jealous of her lipstick. I dunno. Just not there.

trailboss on September 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM

So,another words, McCain/Palin are really ahead!!

canopfor on September 19, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Even the battlegrounds look bad per the new Marist poll,

Marist or Marxist?

Mr_Magoo on September 19, 2008 at 2:17 PM

For whatever it’s worth, AOL’s poll (stop that laughing!) has McCain beating Obobo 64% to 36% with something like 120,000 votes cast.

AOl polls have CONSISTENTLY shown Mccain ahead by 30%+ points! Most polls reach 500,000+ votes total. Big difference from the often phony 2,000 person telephone polls.

Don’t know how many of the AOL votes are repeats from Mccain professional bloggers though…

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 2:17 PM

DaveS on September 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Rush also argued that polls should not be believed until the week of the election. Those who publish polls can say anything until the election. Until then, it is an opportunity to manipulate public opinion on momentum.

Right_of_Attila on September 19, 2008 at 2:17 PM

EVERYONE SHOULD BUY BANK STOCKS NOW BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT!

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Olaf, the announcements have already been made, and you’d be buying a tad late.

trailboss on September 19, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Every time McCain or Palin get to speak (without being interrupted by spittle flying leftists) to the American people, they make headway. The debates are the last chance they have to speak without interruption. I hope they make the best of it.

I think there are 3 factors at play in the polling. #1 The bradley effect. Democrats don’t want to be seen as racists. Republicans don’t really worry because they’re not voting for Obama anyway.
#2 The Bush effect. We’ve been told by liberals for the last 8 years that Bush stinks and anyone that voted for a Republican was a rube.
#3 – Simply screwing with pollsters. I’ve seen too many blog posts about a pollster calling and the blogger enthusiastically advocates the opposition party.

I have no faith in Polls. I do have some faith in America though. I hope that faith is not misplaced

skree on September 19, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Some people who aren’t racist feel guilty about voting for the white guy over the black guy. They feel that they have to prove they aren’t racist by saying that they’re willing to vote for the black guy. This isn’t a new effect; It’s been witnessed for over 26 years.

amerpundit on September 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Please provide a link for a single person that has admitted to doing this.

This just some silly “white guilt” nonsense.

Please provide any evidence proving that Black Democratic candidates poll results were any different from other Democratic candidates.

Kerry polled higher also. Gore too?

Pollsters skew Dem. When they screw up they blame GOP racists.

faraway on September 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Where was W against Lurch in this polls at this time in the race?

W was up by 2 points at this stage of the race.

JonPrichard on September 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM

In polls of registered voters, Kerry was up by two. In polls of likely voters, Dubya was up by two.

I really think Gallup is doing its readers a disservice by not reporting the LV data. Their excuse is that it’s too early for some people to accurately predict their likelihood to vote. Give me a break. This thing’s been going on for well nigh two years. People who will vote already know who they’re going with.

McCain and Obama are going after a very small, and rapidly shrinking number of likelies that really haven’t made up their minds.

We need to see the data that describes that sample.

GulfCoastBamaFan on September 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM

So am I supposed to hide under the bed or not?

Bishop on September 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM

In the Primary did anyone think McCain won even one of the debates?

Actually there was a couple of debates where the pundits on Fox and the so-called undecideds on Luntz’s deal thought McCain did win, especially when he was feisty.

JonPrichard on September 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM

I think McCain will up again soon. He sounded really good early this morning in his speach and also on the campain trail. I believe these new ads will help.

artchick on September 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM

SaintOlaf on September 19, 2008 at 2:17 PM

AOL is a hotbed of RACISTS.

sarcasm

Rick on September 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Aren’t these still registered voter numbers?

Harpoon on September 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Please provide a link for a single person that has admitted to doing this.

This just some silly “white guilt” nonsense.

Um, I can’t. I don’t even know one person who’s ever been contacted by a polling service. All we’re saying is there’s a thing called a Bradley effect, and Obama is not necessarily immune from it. Chill, dude. The polling may be dead on accurate, we’re just saying there’s other things to factor here as we read these fluctuating numbers.

Pasalubong on September 19, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Umm.. Obama is going to win, Republicans are screwed and will probably be out of action for the next decade. Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. :(

And you are a troll who repeats this stupid meme in almost every post you make. No one is falling for you b.s.

Blake on September 19, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Is it just me, or is AllahPundit really obsessed with polls?

I suggest a new name for our host: PollPundit.

I suggest a new blog for our host.

P.S. I clicked on pollpundit.com and the message came back: Server not found.

Mcguyver on September 19, 2008 at 2:22 PM

So am I supposed to hide under the bed or not?

Bishop on September 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Yes.

trailboss on September 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM

Debate questions –

Tom Brokaw: Hey old man, since Washington is broken and you have been there since the world was formed, how can you possible have the nerve to say you will fix it?

Tome Brokaw: Senator Obama. Welcome. And by the way, you are looking extremely refreshed and dashing tonight. Tell me Senator, where did you buy that exquisite suit?

Mr_Magoo on September 19, 2008 at 2:24 PM

actually, i think mccain is start picking up momentum after a week-long lull. it’ll be reflected early next week in polls.

marklmail on September 19, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Obama can win all the polls for all I care.
The only vote that matters in coming up in November.

carbon_footprint on September 19, 2008 at 2:26 PM

In polls of registered voters, Kerry was up by two. In polls of likely voters, Dubya was up by two.

Yeah, that’s about right. The Gallup daily tracking poll is Registered voters. The Rasmussen daily track is likely voters. It looks though like the Gallup poll is showing a slowing of Obama’s gains. This is a rolling poll over four days. The past couple of results put him up two points each day and then this one with one point. Meaning that there must be a much lower number in the final day of polling to account for the slowing. Maybe Obama has peaked. Then again, the next poll result will be a weekend poll and those never favor the Republican for whatever reason.

JonPrichard on September 19, 2008 at 2:26 PM

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