Comments on: Video: McCain’s and Palin’s first joint town hall

By: rightwingprof

rightwingprof — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:27:18 +0000

On 9/20/04, Rasmussen had Kerry ahead of Bush. Yesterday, Rasmussen had McCain and Obama tied at 48-48. Last time I looked, they hadn’t yet released today’s tracking poll.

By: Classical Values

Classical Values — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:33:59 +0000

A PUMA Speaks To McCain…

You can see a longer (39 minute) version at CBS5 Television. H/T Hot Air……

By: Roger Waters

Roger Waters — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:15:13 +0000

amen spmat

thats what happens when you got 4 candidates on the trail none of which know a damn thing about how the economy works.

it sucks!!

By: spmat

spmat — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:55:43 +0000

They seriously need to leaven this loaf with some Romney on the trail. The anti-Wall Street rhetoric is getting old real damn fast. You want to talk about transparency and getting serious about best practices, fantastic, I’m all ears. You want to talk about ending the public-risk, private-profit era of Fanny and Freddy, then I’ll start cheering.

If you want to start couching your rhetoric in terms of “Wall Street Greed™” you can count me well and truly out. Wall Street is behaving rationally, as opposed to the federal regulators and congressional Democrats whose perennial (willful) ignorance of the law of unintended consequences got us into this mess in the first place.

By: Mojave Mark

Mojave Mark — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:57:09 +0000

I thought she did great. She’s very direct and comfortable in front of an audience.

By: aikidoka

aikidoka — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:46:55 +0000

What did the polls say for Kerry or Gore at this point?

By: zmrzlina

zmrzlina — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:05:39 +0000

Just had a realization. Having mentally prepared myself for thorough loss in Nov 2008 via McCain/Romney, and then McCain/Palin happening and suddenly reversing that, it’s going to be all the harder if the MSM teams up to carry the Messiah across the finish line. I’ve never hated John McCain the way everyone else here seems to have done, but I *really* like Sarah Palin, and seeing her as part of a losing ticket will suck a lot more than seeing Mitt Romney retreat to one of his mansions to recover and rebuild.

By: Terrye

Terrye — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:35:26 +0000

I saw this over at protein wisdom. Jeff discusses an excerpt from a WSJ piece by Daniel Henninger, this is a little part of it:

Forget the Tina Fey SNL mockery and all the marginalia being written about Sarah Palin now. She did four real things in Alaska that make her fit for anyone interested in a reform presidency.

She took on: her party’s state chairman, her party’s state attorney general, GOP Gov. Frank Murkowski’s tainted gas pipeline project, and then she supported a GOP candidate who ran against Alaska’s “untouchable” GOP congressional earmarker, Don Young.

One way or another, each episode involved severing the sleazy ties that bind public officials to grasping commercial interests, something even the Democratic left purports to favor.

It isn’t just Washington and Juneau. You could open the nozzle on the same reform fire hose to wash the public-private slime out of the capital hallways of New York, New Jersey, California, Illinois and onward.

You say Sarah Palin doesn’t have enough “experience” to run Washington? Washington is barely fit to be run.

[...]

Unfocused “reform” rhetoric from Mr. McCain isn’t enough. The public has been there, heard that. Sen. McCain should talk about what he knows — fat Fannie and Freddie, farm-bill bloat, the ethanol subsidy fiasco, the federal procurement mess. Show people Gov. Palin’s 18 single-spaced pages of 2007 vetoes. Then identify Congress’s bipartisan supporters of the Legislative Line-Item Veto Act and ask the voters’ support. Appear with GOP congressman from Sarah’s new generation who want to help — Eric Cantor of Virginia, Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, Kevin McCarthy of California. There are others.

Promise to spend the first two years on this historic political reform effort, and if a Democratic Congress laughs, promise to barnstorm in 2010 for a Congress willing to act, from any party.

One hears talk of John McCain’s temper. My guess is voters want someone to lose it with Washington, big time. Oh, and he should ask what’s the difference between a reformist pit bull and a six-term senator. It isn’t lipstick.
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Henninger is spot on for the most part, it seems to me — but he misses making a key observation: part of the strategy Democrats have been employing, with their attacks on Palin’s “qualifications” and on her small town roots, is to turn her into a hickish hootchie momma playing a sad reindeer rag on the spoons — not simply to assuage their own elitist egos (though that part, along with their loathing of the snowbilly doublewides and their moose-infested backwood burb — one that nonetheless needs their protection, less its pristine beauty is destroyed by those who, you know, inexplicably live there), but to preemptively downplay the importance of the reforms for which she’s responsible.

Sure, li’l miss PTA fixed a few “Alaskan problems,” the subtext suggests. But Alaska is barely even part of the US, and in Washington, Palin won’t be going up against drunken Inuits lobbying for Sunday happy hours, but rather she’ll be among the “political class,” people with law degrees and Ivy League educations who’ve spent years being groomed to say nothing at all while pretending to address problems and issues.

And really, how can she even hope to compete?

– Which is why McCain must do more than simply point out Palin’s reform accomplishments. He must make the argument that reformers can reform on large scales or small scales, provided they are willing to use the tools of reform at their disposal.

By: Esthier

Esthier — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:25:08 +0000

srhoades on September 18, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Wow. I don’t remembering hearing about that, but I have no problem believing it.

When I was in junior high, some of the kids beat up on Smokey the Bear (mascot costume) when he/she visited our school.

By: eucher

eucher — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:12:58 +0000

Excellent video – I watched the full 37-minute one on the CBS link in paragraph one.

I hope they do many more townhall meetings. Taking on the real issues of real Americans (versus softballs from TV “newscasters”) is the way to go … especially since Obama is afraid to.

By: srhoades

srhoades — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:11:05 +0000

Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Didn’t a bunch of teenagers beat the snot out of Barney there in Houston back in ’93 or ’94? I remember laughing about the attack with my buddies aboard the U.S.S. Inchon.

By: Esthier

Esthier — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:08:28 +0000

Heh heh heh….I farking hate Barney

ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:45 PM

I grew up near Houston, which is where PBS films its shows. One of my classmates was a former Barney girl.

She was teased relentlessly.

By: Roger Waters

Roger Waters — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:03:52 +0000

uh, thats why I said “if Biden can control himself”.

I agree with everything you said regarding Obama. Thats why it sucks that it looks like he is going to win now.

By: Terrye

Terrye — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:01:04 +0000

Roger:

Oh please, Biden is a walking gaffe machine. Just today he was yammering about how it is my patriotic duty to pay more taxes. His son recently quit his job as a paid lobbyist because Dad was pretending to be against that sort of thing. You betcha, the man has taken something like $5 million in contributions in less than five years. And for what? He has been a Senator since 1972, it is not like he needs money to campaign.

I think Palin is a breath of fresh air. She is clear and concise in her answers. She has tolerated more crap in 2 weeks than Obama has had to put up with in 2 years. She is a Governor and a very successful politician.

Obama is fast talking flim flam man who does not even know what states border Illinois. He hims, he haws, he screws up all the time, so please spare me the crap.

Palin governed from the center in Alaska, she did not burn books or crosses or make abortion illegal or do any of the silly crap the liars on the left have accused her of. Liars is what they are.

So, I will wait and see what happens at the debate, but my guess is that she will never and can never be good enough for someone like you.

So buzz off.

By: VastRightWingConspirator

VastRightWingConspirator — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:59:19 +0000

I do not know why people would make an issue of how Palin speaks. After all, she is from Alaska, what do they want her to do…cultivate an accent from Michigan or something?

Speaking of regional dialects, I believe it was Hannity (on H&C) who put together a string of videos that showed Hillary doing exactly that: a neutral accent in Iowa, a New England accent in New Hampshire, and a [pathetic] southern drawl in North Carolina. She sounded like Gabby Johnson from “Blazing Saddles.”

By: upinak

upinak — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:58:23 +0000

JadeNYU on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Oh it doesn’t bother me anymore. Just something a lot of people take notice. Especially in different States.

By: Jdripper

Jdripper — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:48:09 +0000

If he had chosen Romney he would be down by 10 points or more. The question is not about taking her as the Veep candidate. The question is why the McCain campaign went into the tank after he chose her.

She could have been handled so much better then how they chose to do it. Last night in one sentence Dennis Miller was able to show the McCain campaign how to hit back at the different critics.

When it came to “The View” he said “who would have thought that Roseanne was the brains on that show.”

They took too many hits and refused to do anything and then for some reason known only to them and God they chose to hit back on the lipstick on the pig.

They could have used humor instead they went to the “we is victims” bunker mentality. That was too stupid for words.

By: ManlyRash

ManlyRash — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:45:20 +0000

Oh, come on, Manly. Let’s hold hands and sing Barney songs.-Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:30 PM

How about this:

I hate you,
You hate me,
Let’s go out and kill Barney.
With a knife in his chest
And a bullet in his head…
Let’s tell Mommy Barney’s dead.

Heh heh heh….I farking hate Barney

By: Roger Waters

Roger Waters — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:44:41 +0000

smokie sausages?? mmmmm

Thanks for your contribution.

I hate to say this, and I hope I am wrong, but in the debate, if Biden just plays it safe and cool and can control himself, he will make it look like he is the teacher and Palin is the “C” student in class.

By: srhoades

srhoades — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:44:28 +0000

unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Hey! Lay off Coolidge.

By: ManlyRash

ManlyRash — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:42:30 +0000

The first idea was to suggest that you had reversed that meanings of my name, but I didn’t want to sell myself short./sarc – Mini14 on September 18, 2008 at 4:33 PM

You are okay, Mini. Head on over to the Megyn Kelly/CBC thread and have fun abusing the Canadians. I know I am…

By: Seven Percent Solution

Seven Percent Solution — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:41:39 +0000

Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Your Mother is calling you to turn down the Pink Floyd, and your computer, and come out of the basement because it is almost time for dinner.

She made you your favorite, macaroni and cheese with little smokie sausages and a glass of milk………

You can come back and play after you finish your homework.

Allah, I sure wish you would remind us all to stay on topic……

By: Terrye

Terrye — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:40:08 +0000

I do not know why people would make an issue of how Palin speaks. After all, she is from Alaska, what do they want her to do…cultivate an accent from Michigan or something?

I doubt we would be better off with a rich white guy right now. I still do not think Palin is a net loss to the ticket. In the end, it will still be more about McCain than her, but I refuse to believe that it would have been better to cater to the critics by serving them the typical white rich older man. I know I like her as well as I ever did. However, I like the media even less…and I did not think that was possible.

By: csdeven

csdeven — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:39:47 +0000

yeah but did he organizer a community to get indooor plumbing?
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:23 PM

I agree! Oslima gave people a fish that fed them on a temporary basis. Trump provides jobs that allow people to eat for a lifetime.

By: pugwriter

pugwriter — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:38:14 +0000

Errr…Megyn…I think…