Video: McCain’s and Palin’s first joint town hall
posted at 3:00 pm on September 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
I was curious to see it so I figure you’re curious to see it. The clip picks up with a PUMA showing her love and runs for eight minutes, with the question about her perceived lack of foreign-policy knowledge and her ensuing invitation to the crowd to play “stump the candidate” coming at around seven minutes in. (If you can’t get enough, there’s a 37-minute version at CBS.) Like I predicted on the day she was announced, part of the media’s effort to yokel her up will involve knockin’ the G’s off her gerunds when transcribin’ her statements. Geraghty caught the Post doing it; here’s CNN doing the same thing. Think the crowds care how she speaks?
Maybe they do. See Nate Silver’s poll analysis today at TNR as to whether Palin’s momentarily more of a liability to the ticket than an asset. Silver comes from the left but plays things down the middle, although I grant it’d be easier for me to make that argument if he wasn’t including the Daily Kos tracking poll (Research 2000) in his analysis. Still, even ignoring the data from that one, her net favorables are now lower than any of the other three candidates on the tickets as averaged. I can’t believe we’d be doing better with Romney or Pawlenty, but there’s no doubt in the wake of Palinmania that our fate is riding on her performance in a way it wouldn’t have with either of them. Exit quotation: “As Democrats learned with Obama this summer, the more interest there is in one candidate, the more the election comes to serve as a referendum on that candidate.”
Update: Actually, would we be doing better with Romney in light of the market downturn? He very clearly understands what he’s talking about on economic matters, a quality we could use right now, but whether a guy worth $300 million is the right messenger is another question.
Update: Some good news from Pew: Palin’s favorables among independents split 60/27. The only caveat is that the poll was taken Sept. 9-14, which is before the recent downturn in her ratings.
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You are a troll. You have always been a troll. You always will be a troll. Now go back to your cubbyhole under the bridge.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:45 PM
The only problem (for Palin) that I see is that McCain Camp has her overly scripted. Every onter word out of her mouth is “McCain this, McCain that, Maverick, Reform,”
If they would just let her be herself she would be fine. Frankly we love her because of who she is and don’t need or want it covered up. Let her make some mistakes. Fans won’t care and media will never accept her no matter how good she does.
America1st on September 18, 2008 at 3:45 PM
No one has called you a troll. It’s odd, or maybe telling, that you were so quick to assume they had though.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM
I think the fact that she drops her “G’s” just endears her more to us folks in the South.
CP on September 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Same place that Obama’s surge off his “great speech” went too. Obama had a freaking 8 pt lead after his convention. If the market wouldn’t have had a hissy fit McCain would still be up. It is a shame that with the Market losing 10% Obama can do no better than tie. He is an empty suit, a socialist and thinks paying more taxes for his stupid ideas is showing a love for your country.
Idiots wait till your taxes go up. child tax credit gone, savings credit gone. that’s $500 per child gone,
Your an an idiot. Palin’s surge is showing on the campaign trail. All her events are sold out. Obama needs a telpromter PAlin answers questions from the voters. Which is the stupid one again?
Idiot
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM
My son (20 yrs old) describes him as a “whiny little b!tch.”
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Oink, if you ever heard me talk. I NEVER use my g’s and was teased horribly as a kid. Instead of saying something like Swimming… it sounds something like swimm”EEN”. Say Teen, and that is how I say my ing’s.
A lot of Alaskans do it… it is a Northern Plains/Canadian/East Coast accent.
upinak on September 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Dose? I come here for the pessimism drip.
capitalist piglet on September 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM
No one has called you a troll. It’s odd, or maybe telling, that you were so quick to assume they had though.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Let me correct that then. He is a obama supporting troll trying to spread doubt and posion.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Roger, I know you have been here for a long time and I respect your opinion. You very well could be right.
However, the negativity/pessimism is not attractive. It is as offensive as body odor.
This election is far from over. The debates have not even started. McCain should kick Barack pretty well in those three debates. Palin will do well against Biden. We can count on at least a gaffe per day from the Obama campaign.
Obama is way too liberal to get elected in this country. Have faith.
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Take heart, capitalism does that for us, it just takes a while. The NYT and LAT etc., readership is shrinking, the network news is scrambling for viewers and the Rush Limbaugh’s and Dennis Praeger’s of the world are doing just fine.
It will never be perfect, but it will never be hopeless either.
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM
You can come up with a better screen name than a description of your genitalia and your IQ.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM
You type like a flailing little child that throwing a fit.
Let me help you:
“You’re an idiot.”
Now go stare in the mirror and repeat it ver and over again until it sinks in.
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM
OK, I should have hit refresh first.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:50 PM
justincase on September 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM
My entire family and circle of friends think Obama is a lying corrupt socialist that wants to destroy free speech, raise your taxes, and take this country down the Soviet model of reform.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:50 PM
David Gilmour, for all intents and purposes, once described him in the same way.
Applies equally to our “own” Roger Waters here.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Ummm, you might not want to tell the whole world about that…
SaintOlaf on September 18, 2008 at 3:51 PM
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:51 PM
I hope you are right carbon footprint.
And to the dork saying RW was a “drag on Pink Floyd too”. Uh, RW was PF. He wrote all the good songs… you dork.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:51 PM
You can’t go backsies…and what is wrong with how she talks. Her ratings have everything to do with the economy as do McCains.
tomas on September 18, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Are you just dense or stupid?
You know you don’t have any fact to back your claims. You don’t support anything you say, as it always goes by the waste side.
So why bother coming in? Or is it the negative attention you crave as you sit at a keyboard?
upinak on September 18, 2008 at 3:51 PM
David Gilmour didnt write any of the songs. He has his wife “co-write” his songs after RW left. RW wrote Dark Side of Moon and The Wall. If you dont know what you are talking about, it is best to shut the hell up.
Perhaps Sarah Palin could also follow that advice.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:53 PM
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I agree.. I think that will backfire on Obama. most Americian don’t like to have politics in their face. they don’t like to argue over politics and if Obama is seen as ramming his version of politics down our thraots the American people just may decide they would rather not put up with 4 years of whinny teenage hippies telling them how mean, bad etc they are.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:53 PM
dude, calm down…I was just making a suggestion to polish up their appeal for the masses who don’t follow every word as closely as the junkies like us do…wtf are you referring to their spouses about? shaking hands instead of hugging is more professional, that’s all..relax, take a breath.
JustTruth101 on September 18, 2008 at 3:53 PM
ARCTIC FOX
Enjoy.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Outside of his recent “magical mystery tour” (and illegally negotiating with the Iraqi government) just what the f**k “foreign policy” experience does the MESSIAH bring to the table????????
Answers, anyone?
alwyr on September 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM
The race is essentially tied…with an unpopular GOP President, an unpopular war, a sagging economy, etc. What does it say about the Messiah that he can’t pull away, Palinmania notwithstanding? He should be ahead by at least 8-10 points and not real close in the electoral college count, either. THAT is why trolls like an_abstraction have slithered out from under their rocks. Obama can’t close the deal, just like in the Dem primaries when Hillary was winning states even after he had it pretty sewn up. I like McCain’s chances at this point given all that is weighing on his candidacy…there’s a lot of time left, and a few tracking polls recently aren’t going to change the fact he is still in a pretty good position.
changer1701 on September 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Syd Barrett wrote all the good songs you moron.
Grow Fins on September 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Gilmour and others had plenty of writing credits on their best albums.
Besides, how did Waters’ solo career turn out? EPIC FAIL, that’s how.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Physician, heal thyself.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:56 PM
You type like a flailing little child that throwing a fit.
Let me help you:
“You’re an idiot.”
Now go stare in the mirror and repeat it ver and over again until it sinks in.
If you are going to bust someone about their spelling, it would behoove you to proof your own copy.
Mr. D on September 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
De Rothschild’s defection should belay some of your concern.
On F&F this am she was very articulate as to her reasons for supporting McCain. He’s a centrist and a hero and Obama is a leftist loon.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM
idiot. You have no mind. you can not think for yourself. I am surprised they let you out on your own. what polls show that Americans want a havard man? what polls show that the Palin surge is over? Learn to read. I hate that I even have to come down to your level and throw names like idiot around but if the shoe fits….
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Heh.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
You are still a whiny little b!tch. Now go change your diaper.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:58 PM
He once studied abroad.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Mr. D on September 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
I have noticed that in my years of debate when someone starts attacking spelling and grammer they have lost the arguement.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:59 PM
I agree with whoever said dropping the g’s will endear her to southerners!
Upinak… interesting talk about accents. Seriously. If they can talk about Pink Floyd, we can talk about accents. :) And I love Pink Floyd FWIW.
Oink on September 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Name one song…just one song….that David Gilmour wrote you jack ball. He CO-WROTE a few tunes with RW but never wrote a single song by himself that didnt suck. Thats why after RW left, there was no PF left.
RW wrote:
Time
Money
Brain Damage
Eclipse
Have a Cigar
Pigs
Sheep (reminds me of you guys)
Pigs on the Wing
Brick in the Wall
and all the other cool songs from The Wall
So, tell me, what songs did Gilmour write you knowledgable person you?????
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Agreed:
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM
hahaha! You dang well KNOW that is REAL fur on her jacket! She probably killed and skinned it herself!
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Um, I was making a little fun of the guy you called a troll. I also have enjoyed your posts and agree with you most of the time.
Can you at least give me a clue as to what got your panties in a wad? Your post wasn’t helpful in that regard…
Mini14 on September 18, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Syd Barret??? WTF?
He wasnt even in the band when they were famous making their good albums? talking out of your a**, I see.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:01 PM
“You can come up with a better screen name than a description of your genitalia and your IQ.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM ”
OK, that was the funniest post I have seen in a long time. HA HA HA!!
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Outside of his recent “magical mystery tour” (and illegally negotiating with the Iraqi government) just what the f**k “foreign policy” experience does the MESSIAH bring to the table????????
Answers, anyone?
alwyr on September 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM
He had that drug running experience with is Pakistain friends during his years in Columbia University.
I can not believe that 45% of the american population is going to vote for a wimp drug dealer/user. that alone boggles the mind. Add in that he activly support socialism, destruction of free speech, energy dependence, and had many many friends among the USA enemies.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:02 PM
OT:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/18/reid-blocks-online-predator-bill-to-help-obam/
WOW.
powerpro on September 18, 2008 at 4:03 PM
The only caveat is that the poll was taken Sept. 9-14, which is before the recent downturn in her ratings.
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What “down turn in her ratings?” I ask this because I have NOT seen it. In fact over 90% of the people I have talked to love her, and many (like myself) say that she should be at the top of the ticket, and McCain should be out of there!
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I will also add that I am not one to view “polls,” as the vast majority of them are taken by left wing idiots, who ask other left wing idiots stupid questions!
Confederate on September 18, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Nice try Thirteen.
You listed the albums
Meddle (which sucks)
Dark Side
Wish You Were Here
Why didnt you mention The Wall and Animals and The Final Cut??
BUSTED!!!!!
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:04 PM
He’s good at telling Canada not to listen to his NAFTA-bashin (hey, I don’t really mean it, I’m just doing it to win a campaign!) and ordering Iraqis to slow the withdrawal until after the election!
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 4:04 PM
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Trump also endorsed McCain/Palin last night.
Seems like the smart people are voting for McCain while the people that need a community organizer to get indoor plumbing installed are supporting Obama. hmmm wonder who I should support?
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:05 PM
In case someone hasn’t already posted this upthread, this is a lovely zinger via Palin.
Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Confederate on September 18, 2008 at 4:03 PM
downturn in the polls happened when the ,market had a fit on Sunday/Monday. The idiots trolls want to try to blame it on Palin but they are making a child’s attempt at it.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM
The songwriting credits are there, read again, dummy.
Roger did write most of the Wall and Animals, where are not anywhere near as good as the three albums listed, and I can’t believe you would undermine yourself by listing that abysmal piece of sh!t “The Final Cut”, which is to Pink Floyd what Vista is to Microsoft, an unmitigated disaster.
Roger was also a painfully average bass player, and Gilmour was really the only virtuoso musician in the band.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Seriously? Your name is manly rash, which makes it sound like you’re trying to warn women to force you to put on a condom before jumping into bed with you.
I’m sure there’s some story to it, but you’re not exactly one to talk about screen names.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:09 PM
market up 409pts today. I guess Obama talked it back on its feet. I’m so glad the economy is broken and that we are in the biggest economic problem since the great depression. This is why no president should base economic policy on Wall Street. They are even more a bunch of whiny no nothings then gov.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:09 PM
That pic is from a Vogue photoshoot (believe it or not). Everytime I look at it, the jacket reminds me of a military jacket. Just as Rommel was the Desert Fox, she is the Arctic Fox.
Too bad Bambi is no Patton.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:10 PM
The Wall is not as good as Meddle?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!
Now I know you are putting me on.
The wall sold about 30 times what that piece of crap “Meddle” sold.
The Final Cut is great. Whether you call it PF or RW it sure beat the hell out of Pink Fraud’s Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Smell which were fake PF albums where the virtuoso DG STILL couldnt write the horrible songs on those horrible albums.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:10 PM
We must not let ourselves get discouraged and demoralized. There will be polls we like and polls we don’t like. Get involved in the ground game. Local offices are looking for folks to knock on doors and make phone calls and stuff envelopes. This is going to be a battle to the very end and it is nowhere near finished. There are four debates to come and a whole lot of news cycles. Let’s get our game faces on and fight!
ejbentz on September 18, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Well done, team McCain!
Black Adam on September 18, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Populism isn’t popular. Not in the long run.
Halley on September 18, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Yeah that was a nice one.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Next time put the sarc tag after your post, dummy. Or you’ll be mistaken for a troll and shot. My panties are in a wad because I normally wear boxers and today is laundry day and the wife said it’s either panties or commando. ;-)
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:14 PM
This needs to be repeated….
People like Trump are voting for McCain, the captians of our industry, the risk takers, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps
People that need a community organizer to get something done are voting for Obama. you know the welfare queens, the food stamp people, the person that wants to cry in his beer about life being unfair..those whiny little idiots that you just want to scream at to get out of their parents basement and go get a job…
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:14 PM
I don’t give a crap which one sold more, it says nothing about artistic merit. But it does figure a whiner like you would prefer The Wall, which Gilmour accurately characterized as Water’s album whining about “you f’d me up this way, and you f’d me up that way.”
Bottom line is, you made the claim that RW wrote all of their songs, and explicitly stated that he wrote all of Dark Side of the Moon – a claim that was easily refuted by a quick Google search.
Since you said that one should’t talk when they don’t know what the hell they’re talking about, then right about now would be a good time for you to stfu.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 4:15 PM
I think I was the first to come down on “Roger Waters,” thereby instigating the painful discussion of the relative musical merits of one hippie vs. another.
To everyone on this board…I’m sorry…I’m so very sorry.
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 4:15 PM
FTFY.
Seriously- your Pink Floyd posts above are the first ones not related to shilling for Romney that I can remember. He wasn’t nominated. He wasn’t picked for VP, nor should he have been. Get over it.
Hollowpoint on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Is this conversation really going to continue?
Pink Floyd was a decent band, but their time has passed. These days when kids get high, they listen to Radiohead instead.
And the words to those songs kinda suck anyway. “Teacher, leave those kids alone.” Seriously? It’s no Shakespeare, and it’s certainly not why people listened to them.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
unseen at 3:50 Same with my family and a lot of my friends. But there’s a subculture in America that hasn’t one ounce of critical reasoning ability. They need a 30-second dose of just how putrid the people they trust for news really are. We need to get that across to them so when they hear the crap that passes for news they will automatically think, like the rest of us, “Well, maybe that’s true but probably not.”
My 7th-grade son was appalled when his social studies teacher at the beginning of the year spoke to the kids about “credible” news sources and listed CNN.
I told him he should ask his teacher if he was aware that CNN was bribed by Saddam Hussein precisely because people would think his propaganda more credible if it came from CNN. IOW, CNN is considered credible even though it has been and continues to be the propaganda arm for America’s enemies. It’s the credibility given to them by the unthinking masses that makes them dangerous to this nation and world.
This is way off-topic, but last night my kids and I watched a DVD about WWII that I got at Wal-mart for a dollar. It gave an overview of how the Axis Powers hardened their own nations for war while simultaneously softening their targets. My boys were intrigued by this “softening” part – transplanting Nazi radicals into a society to camouflage their treason as being the real pulse of the people.
I spent the whole night shaking my head and saying, “Some things never change.”
It was actually really eerie, especially in the context of what my kids and I already know about Obama and who he’s aligned himself with globally and in this nation.
justincase on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Roger Waters is an wrong.
Floyd peaked at Dark Side of the Moon. Wish You Were Here is alright, The Wall is crap.
Atom Heart Mother, Obscured By Clouds and Meddle are the best Floyd.
BillyRayValentine on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
The fact is that relatively few people actually pronounce those G’s in an “ing” ending as a typical “G” sound (either hard like “geronimo” or soft like “gumbo”).
The ‘mainstream’ US accent uses a velar nasal sound which is a nasal made with your tongue in roughly the same place it would be if you were going to make a g sound. Palin is replacing it with a dental nasal which is your garden variety n sound.
What does this mean? Nothing more than that different people from different places speak differently. Though, I find it interesting that what most people think is ‘missing’ that makes her sound different (having a ‘g’ at the end) is actually missing from the speech of most Americans.
JadeNYU on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Do we really want a nation of welfare queens? do we really want to have to support every last one of the do nothing populastion that don’t want to get an education, that don’t want to work?
Liberalism is a failed policy.
welfare begets more welfare, lack of work effort gets more lazy people. Already almost 50% of the population doesn’t pay taxes, what happens when the rest of the 50% no longer as enough to pay for the welfare. Socialisnm is a grand bargian to the poor house for everyone.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Roger Waters,
do your bosses at the Obama Campaign know they’re paying you to argue over 35 year old rock bands?
Just askin.
ChrisM on September 18, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Dark Side of the Moon was the best album because of the engineering.
Alan Parsons owns all of your asses.
Sakaki on September 18, 2008 at 4:18 PM
I’m sure Trump has employed, and thereby helped, more people than Barry O ever has.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Palin answers questions off the cuff. Obama takes his teleprompter to the rodeo. Who’s the unready one?
Let Palin be Palin. I want to see Sarah Barracuda!
petefrt on September 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM
justincase on September 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM
not just Obama but also Putin. the KGB is active in AMerica still.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Condoms are for sailors, baby…always going from port to port. Filthy buggers.
Apparently you don’t know who I am. Permit me to introduce myself: I am a hotheaded, blowhard, conservative curmudgeon who is quick to judge everyone a moron until proven otherwise. You will either love me or despise me and frankly, I don’t give a flying fark either way.
I chose the name Many Rash because it was the name of a character in a play I saw in high school. It was the most ridiculous, asinine name I have ever heard and I never forgot it. Naturally, it was the first name that came to mind when I registered here.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:20 PM
My point, 13, was that DG never wrote a single song by himself.
RW had all the concepts and wrote all of the biggest songs by himself (words and music).
Dark Side is as much RW’s as is The Wall. His concept, the best songs (Money, Brain Damage, Eclipse) are ALL his (words and music) and NO songs (except some noise or some instrumental piece) is there without a RW co-write.
You didnt respond to my point about the Pink Fraud albums. I will take that as an admission about my being correct and your surrendur.
I win. Thank you.
And Sarah Palin is still a horrible choice.
That was my point, genius. And I have been proven correct.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Again with the name calling. Gee wiz.
The name is from the Ruger Mini14 rifle, by the way. They can come in handy, sometimes.
I really don’t want to know about yours. No sarcasm intended.
Mini14 on September 18, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Let Palin be Palin. I want to see
Sarah BarracudaSARAH’CUDA!FIFY
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:21 PM
When spelling/grammar smack goes horribly awry.
Metro on September 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM
The point is, you made a claim and just got your a$$ handed to you by a quick Google search.
Now go practice what you preached above.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Best I got is an Enfield .303 from WW2. And a stainless Ruger .44 Magnum with scope. Kicks like a farking cannon.
You’re ok, Mini.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:23 PM
“Atom Heart Mother, Obscured By Clouds and Meddle are the best Floyd.”
Yeah, they were really terrific. Even the band was embarrassed by Atom Heart Mother. Those three albums suck bad…which is why relatively nobody bought them.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:23 PM
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM
yeah but did he organizer a community to get indooor plumbing? That’s the question….Trump while there are somethings I don’t like about him has never quit, has never given up, has built his own mini empire and by doing so has helped two major cities (NY and Atlantic City) with jobs, tax rev, tourism, shelter etc.
That is capitalism. socialism would have everyone living in the same substandard concrete buildings that would fall into disrepair…oh wait that was what happened to Obama’s apartments in chicago that he organized
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:23 PM
“blah blah fcking blah yadda yadda yadda”
That is Thirteen’s summation of the ASS KICKING that I gave him. It was fun too!!!
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Sounds like an interesting play. And thanks for the introduction.
I’ve shot off friendly fire before, but I tend to be overly cautious, hence my snap at you. We’ll probably get along until we disagree, then, who knows.
It really is an odd name though.
And I agree with you about condoms. I’d rather not have sex than use one.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:25 PM
unseen at 4:20
And Hamas and Hezbollah and their front organizations such as CAIR.
When you really dig into the connections Obama had with Ayers, “Frank” (from “Dreams of My Father”) Wright, Farakhan, etc…. the Che Guivera banners in his headquarters make a LOT of sense. Communism has different disguises but they all have that faint stink that some of us recognize instinctively even before all the details solidify it for us.
justincase on September 18, 2008 at 4:25 PM
I like you, Esthier.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Barry also went with Jean Fraude Ketchup on his secret mission to Cambodia that was ordered by Pres Nixon in 1968, and saw Jean wearing his magic thinking cap. Obama also watches the Travel Channel.
eaglewingz08 on September 18, 2008 at 4:26 PM
You’re the only one who seems to think so.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Not in THAT way, of course.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Mini14 on September 18, 2008 at 4:21 PM
I have a Mini14 myself, along with a single six 22lr, (my son’s, really) a Mosin M44, and 91/30, a Savage in 22lr and a 110 in .370, a S&W .40 a Nagant revolver, etc.
But what I really wanted to say is, there’s a Meghan Kelly thread up now :D….gotta go!
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Let’s pass the fairness doctrine in our colleges. For ever liberal professor we need a conservative one.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Wow the ranker in this thread.
Lets have a kumbaya moment.
Ommmmmmmm Karl Rove ommmmmmmmmm magnificent bastard ommmmmmm
Sammy316 on September 18, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Oh, come on, Manly. Let’s hold hands and sing Barney songs.
No worries. I’m married too.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Palin smacks down Obama and Biden on taxes…
http://thepage.time.com/video-palin-in-cedar-rapids-iowa/
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I’m quickly becoming a fan of hers.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 4:31 PM
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