Video: McCain’s and Palin’s first joint town hall
posted at 3:00 pm on September 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
I was curious to see it so I figure you’re curious to see it. The clip picks up with a PUMA showing her love and runs for eight minutes, with the question about her perceived lack of foreign-policy knowledge and her ensuing invitation to the crowd to play “stump the candidate” coming at around seven minutes in. (If you can’t get enough, there’s a 37-minute version at CBS.) Like I predicted on the day she was announced, part of the media’s effort to yokel her up will involve knockin’ the G’s off her gerunds when transcribin’ her statements. Geraghty caught the Post doing it; here’s CNN doing the same thing. Think the crowds care how she speaks?
Maybe they do. See Nate Silver’s poll analysis today at TNR as to whether Palin’s momentarily more of a liability to the ticket than an asset. Silver comes from the left but plays things down the middle, although I grant it’d be easier for me to make that argument if he wasn’t including the Daily Kos tracking poll (Research 2000) in his analysis. Still, even ignoring the data from that one, her net favorables are now lower than any of the other three candidates on the tickets as averaged. I can’t believe we’d be doing better with Romney or Pawlenty, but there’s no doubt in the wake of Palinmania that our fate is riding on her performance in a way it wouldn’t have with either of them. Exit quotation: “As Democrats learned with Obama this summer, the more interest there is in one candidate, the more the election comes to serve as a referendum on that candidate.”
Update: Actually, would we be doing better with Romney in light of the market downturn? He very clearly understands what he’s talking about on economic matters, a quality we could use right now, but whether a guy worth $300 million is the right messenger is another question.
Update: Some good news from Pew: Palin’s favorables among independents split 60/27. The only caveat is that the poll was taken Sept. 9-14, which is before the recent downturn in her ratings.










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That’s it..our daily dose of pessimism.
Chudi on September 18, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Offtopic – just heard on the radio that Bush “skipped a fund raiser to stay in Washington and better monitor the economic situation”
So Bush passed on fund raising and McCain can’t fund raise because of public funds.
What’s Obama doing today in the midst of the “beginning of the great depression”?
Skywise on September 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM
The PUMAs will deliver. Believe it.
D0WNT0WN on September 18, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Maybe, but did you not have a poll up here a couple days ago that showed there wasn’t much daylight between McCain and Obama on trust wrt economics. ‘Sides regulation is the word of the day, and that’s not Mittnomics.
Regardless, we’ve got the cards we’ve got and those are the ones we have to play.
Says broken link to me on CNN vid.
Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2008 at 3:05 PM
If the Post is so interested in quotation accuracy, perhaps they should consider including every “uh,” “um” and “er” that Obama utters.
Provided they have enough ink and page space, that is.
Slublog on September 18, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Where’s the link where fully 10% of McCain supporters admit they’re supporting him because of Palin. She’s drawing huge crowds and lots of donations. I think we’d be in worse shape with anyone else.
BadgerHawk on September 18, 2008 at 3:06 PM
She needs to focus on her strength and let McCain do the heavy lifting. Gov Pailin should focus on being the pre. of the Senate and being right in the mix to keep Congress in check.
nazarioj001 on September 18, 2008 at 3:06 PM
AP, could you do us a favor and make up some good news for the next post?
frankj on September 18, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Plus, when people actually get to see her they like what they see. They loved her convention speech, but all they hear in the media is how she’s an evil nazi-sympathizin hate monger. The country gets another chance to see her at the debate.
BadgerHawk on September 18, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Saw parts of it on Fox. It appeared that McCain was getting a little impatient that Gov. Palin was getting all the questions.
(didn’t see all of it)
rockhauler on September 18, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Umm no… Romney could be easily potrayed as Gordon Gekko by the Dems.
Illinidiva on September 18, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Facts are facts:
Palin holds the base.
If McCain can’t get the moderates, that’s really his fault.
Still, Palin’s future is tied to this election. If they don’t lose, I predict she won’t be on a national ticket in the future.
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM
If anyone would knock off g’s off Al Burack mumblings, he’d be immidiately charged with racism and arrested for hate crime.
Aristotle on September 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM
I like Romney, but if he were on the ticket, we’d still be hearing about houses.
Slublog on September 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM
And if Romney were on the ticket, we’d still be debating how many houses each of the candidate owns.
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM
So let me stop and think about what Allah posted.
Anyone who talks fast and thinks fast, has been known to stumble over a word and in some cases a sentence. Which i do all the time?
I wonder if that is a problem? I thought thinking, speaking and walking fast were a good thing? Or am I wrong?
upinak on September 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM
the Gibson interview and bullhorn negativity to Palin wore on her, but still has potential to back fire big time on the media.
She energized the base and got others to look at McCain. That alone makes her the best pick, and to nitpick at this point is only aiding Obama and is stupid. Playing right into their hand for no good reason
jp on September 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Wow you guys must be twins.
ChrisM on September 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM
I repeat: It’s all about the debates. McCain will only allow Palin to bunt from now until then; that’s when she knocks it out of the park. And that includes foreign policy.
Lower expectations, then dazzle them.
On the other hand SHE’S THE VEEP PICK! I don’t care if she’s a foreign-policywonk.
Geez!
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM
They will come back up, especially if BO stays on target with McCain. Whether that is good or not, can’t say.
Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM
No way.
How soon “fair weathered” conservatives get negative.
People, take a break from politics for a day or two if you are feeling like Palin was somehow a mistake.
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:12 PM
the media got away with murder last week, not just with Palin but they went out of their way to repeat Obama’s talking points without fact checking and called McCain a “liar”. The media/Dems were in full attack mode last week, then this financial mess hit
jp on September 18, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Does anyone transcribe exactly how Ted Kennedy or Barney Frank speaks? No!
I suppose the elitists believe that anyone who drops their “g’s” is an unintelligent hick. And we know they don’t like hicks. Well I have to tell you, I live in Indiana and that might just make me a hick in their eyes. But this hick VOTES.
I find Sarah Palin’s accent intersting. I feel it’s a cross between a southern accent (dropping g’s) and a Minnesotan/North Dakotan accent. Very interesting. Besides, it’s what she says not how she says it.
Oink on September 18, 2008 at 3:13 PM
McCain – keep her in a closet somewhere.
She can’t even answer simple questions.
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I like her, but she didn’t answer the foreign policy question.
Oy vey.
socalconservative on September 18, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Please, the last time I checked, it’s called a Presidential election, not a Vice-Presidential election.
m064404 on September 18, 2008 at 3:14 PM
And if Romney were on the ticket we’d be hearing questions about how many wives he has in each house.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Governor Palin is one awesome person.
I bet cheeseball slimy politicians on both sides of the aisle are praying that McCain loses so they can keep there freezers full of dirty money.
TheSitRep on September 18, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Hey csdeven where have ya been?
TheSitRep on September 18, 2008 at 3:16 PM
I think she is sand bagging for the VP debate. Hopefully Greasy Joe thinks she is going to be a pushover.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:16 PM
OT:
Fox is repackaging the the Heather Mallick pieces being “reviewed” by CBC:
Click here and Buzz It Up!
Ed wrote about it here:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/09/hatred-in-canada-alive-and-well/
Mr_Magoo on September 18, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Palin, Jindal, and maybe Thune would be the only one’s to get the party motivated. The only reason that McCain will win is because of a very enthusiastic base.
Lets face it, she’s the right pick and I believe, her plain talkin’ will resonate where it counts.
Don’t have buyer’s remorse.
joepub on September 18, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Are there actually people in this world who say:
running
instead of
runnin’
?
Seriously. I’ve never heard anyone say “I’m going running” IT’s always “I’m goin’ runnin’”
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:17 PM
One word, advisor…better than obamas advisors who were the CEO’s of freedie mac and Fannie mae…I cant believe he is still holding on to them, should be political cryptonite
SoCalInfidel on September 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM
No buyer’s remose.
I’m pissed that McCain decided to play with himself that past week or so, instead of keeping on the attack.
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM
does anyone else find it strange that conservatives clap when the stock market goes up and liberals clap when it goes down.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Neither can obama
SoCalInfidel on September 18, 2008 at 3:19 PM
He can’t very well drop them. And until the media picks up on this, why bother? And they won’t.
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:19 PM
A “team of mavericks”? Oh dear God in heaven.
“lets prove em wrong, people would ask me how I could be governor and have a baby at the same time and I would say, just like any man”
Doesnt she know that babies come out of women, not men????
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CRAP?!?!?!
Every time Palin talks, its like “oh no way, holy crap, we are toast”.
In the eternal words of Hudson:
“Game over man!! Game over!!”
Friggin McCain is losing a point a day, man. The American Idol choice of Palin will last as long as the last American Idol’s winners top 40 hit.
“So, what the xxx we supposed to do now?? GAME OVER, MAN!! GAME OVER!!”
Thanks McCain. Great job. Great friggin job.
How long til they put Palin on the Michelle Obama disapperance room?
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:19 PM
LOL
I’m sure.
I’m also sure you’re not in huge denial of the fact that she’s a flat-out idiot not fit for the position she seeks.
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Another thought: Has she been largely successful in every step of her career? Yes. Has she made the most of her time as Governor? Yes. OK, so here’s a thought… Maybe she hasn’t paid much attention to foreign policy, except for that which directly effects Alaska, because she was doing her job as Governor.
As veep, she’ll have a different set of duties and will likely be just as effective as she has in the past. Should the unthinkable happen (which everyone seems addicted to thinking about) she’ll step up and do a fine job, as her history seems to suggest.
It’s only 12:20 and I feel like I already need my bedtime single malt scotch.
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Yeah, but it’s also disturbing that people want the stock market to go back up; but elect people who want it to go down.
Twilight zone, man.
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:20 PM
No doubt the hits she’s taken are having an impact, but there’s no way McCain would be in a better position today with Romney or Pawlenty. Mitt would’ve just been another rich white Republican, and Pawlenty wouldn’t have mattered nor energized the base.
McCain has to start hitting Obama harder and expose the empty suit for what he really is…
changer1701 on September 18, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Idiot. Everyone knows what she meant there. Talk about grasping at straws.
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Slublog on September 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM
lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Tony737 on September 18, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Wow, so true…I need a drink
SoCalInfidel on September 18, 2008 at 3:21 PM
I think McCain is giving her the chance to answer questions on her own to prove she is capable.
jencab on September 18, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Oh dear God, they are still talking about how she was a point guard on her high school girls basketball team.
HA HA HA HA HA!!!
WE ARE SCREWED!!!
THIS WOMAN CANT PUT A SENTENCE TOGETHER!!
GAME OVER MAN!! GAME OVER!!!
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Hmmmmm, Romney wold have been an ideal target if he was on the ticket. The man from Wall Street with no knowledge of the little guy suffering in a downturn economy.
clemycali on September 18, 2008 at 3:23 PM
An idiot?
I suppose you think Obama is a genius?
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:24 PM
does anyone else find it strange that conservatives clap when the stock market goes up and liberals clap when it goes down. – Unseen
Does anyone else find it strange that conservatives clap when the violence in Iraq goes down and liberals clap when it goes up?
Tony737 on September 18, 2008 at 3:24 PM
So if the economy is broken if the stock market falls 400pts in a day, does that mean if it goes up 400pts in a day that its fixed?
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:24 PM
an_abstraction, I think you’re the “flat-out idiot”. Ever listen to Obama sans teleprompter? He can’t string a coherent thought together to save his life. Uh, ahh, um, uh, um…yep, that’s some craxy intellect right there.
changer1701 on September 18, 2008 at 3:25 PM
No, it is commensurate to Bush getting nailed by the MSM on the Iraq War when things were going bad, yet now that we are winning, he gets no credit.
Typical.
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Someone who calls himself “Roger Waters” pretending to be a conservative is fooling
everyoneNobody.Comfortably numb, indeed.
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM
wow, I think your completely wrong…but if you want your taxes raised go ahead and vote for obama…I think she talks really well and for some reason i can really relate to her and she just seems, well, normal and I love it.
SoCalInfidel on September 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM
a_subtraction is a troll.
Not even a good one.
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM
you heard here first, or maybe that is first for the fifth time, it’s OVER. AP says so.
kirkill on September 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM
lorien1973,
Yup. Substantive Obama attack ads practically write themselves. Yet the McCain campaign focus since the convention has been on the non-starter of Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” remarks.
Mike Honcho on September 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Growing season and restoring a motorcycle. I had to pull myself away after the Palin nomination was announced. I still have tons to do, but I’m riveted to the race now!
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I will take AP’s pessimism about like I take the AP’s journalism.
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:28 PM
This is a little less pessimistic than we’ve seen Allah in a while. What gives?
t.ferg on September 18, 2008 at 3:28 PM
See? It’s worked on you too.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Of course I’d say “I’m goin runnin.” Or “I’m goin ta run.”
Oink on September 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM
LOL! Not so long ago in Britain it was the mark of a real aristocrat to talk about “huntin’, shootin’, fishin’”. And they all had country houses, London being so “ghastly” and all.
Fortunata on September 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM
With an 80% approval rating in Alaska for the job she’s done as Governor. Which happens to be an executive position, requiring decisions be made.
What has Obama done to become “fit for the position he seeks”? Ran a lousy campaign.
Idiot.
kirkill on September 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM
When I saw the post about only 7% believing the feds should bail out corporations I had a moment of joy. That lasted about 2 seconds for the very next thought; it’s only 7% because people think corporations are evil and don’t deserve to be bailed out. If you asked whether the banking system should be nationalized you get a higher percent that 7.
Someone better be a champion of free markets soon in politics or we’re screwed.
hisfrogness on September 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Jeez. The last time I saw a guy get that hysterical, Don Corleone was about to slap him around.
Slublog on September 18, 2008 at 3:31 PM
To all Obama trolls. Palin’s townhall was good, her interview with hannity was good and even her grilling with Gibson was good. Take you crap and move on. Obama is lucky he isn’t debating Palin. As it is Biden will get the full force.
And to all those people bit*hing about her education and experience. We have had the havard/yale boys in the Whitehouse for 20 years. How is that working again? Clinton and both bushes have been failures. $10trillion in debt, the gov can not/will not balance its budget, two protracted wars that we should have won in the 1st year. broken agenies, no overwatch, no defense of the people’s common good nothing. I do not want another Cloumbia/Havard idiot in the Whitehouse.
academina no longer teaches what we need to our leaders. they do not tech the right subjects and are therefore tainted when they get tot he whitehouse.
experience got us into this crap, high education got us into this crap, forgiegn policy experience got us into this crap. Truman, Jackson, reagan where the presidents people remember. Not Taft, wilson, coolridge, harrison.
The common men have been the best presidents because they govern for the people.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Obamabots hate women.
mylegsareswollen on September 18, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I wont be voting for Obama. I will be voting for McCain. I am just laughing and crying at the same time that we are going to get stuck with Obama for the next 4 years.
How in the hell did this guy get nominated? And wasnt there anybody around to talk to Palin and imagine her campaigning for VP? WHAT A DISASTER!!! How did this American Idol VP choice get greenlighted?
Look, admit it. The more she talks, the more you get that “o sh*t” queasy feeling in your stomach.
We are screwed. GAME OVER MAN!! GAME OVER!
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:33 PM
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I think McCain can use this. saying something like Obama wants to base economic policy on the whims of the stock market. We need to paint Obama as chickenlittle.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:33 PM
screw you. idiots like you are useless. Take your obama talking points and bugoff. I am sick and tired of idiots. The board is infested with them lately. Do you think we are stupid to fall for you lame as* teenage crap?
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:36 PM
National polls, which are a general consensus of what the people of this country think, heavily disagree with you.
Next.
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Looks like we have some concern trolls visiting today.
The most important thing in that video was the PUMA lady. There ARE millions of them and there is nothing Barry can do to get them back now. His hatred of women has become obvious to any woman with a brain.
Gov. Palin’s answer on Title IX was also very important. Undecided women will respond to her acknowledging that legislation can help provide equal opportunity for women. She is a thoroughly modern woman and not some Hick from French Lick that the MSM is trying to make her out to be.
rockmom on September 18, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Polls are a snapshot, not a consensus.
Slublog on September 18, 2008 at 3:37 PM
We need to paint Obama as chickenlittle.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM
We need the American people to wake up. Obama vs. Bob freakin’ Dole should have Obambi down by 10%.
What the hell!
pugwriter on September 18, 2008 at 3:37 PM
It appears you need a break and a prescription for Sertraline.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:38 PM
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:36 PM
that’s funny. Seems like national polls are tied at the moment…
next..
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Not for nothing they call her Arctic Fox.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:38 PM
McCain and Palin need to stop hugging and should shake hands instead. She also needs to put her hair back up in that beehive, she looks more professional that way. and no, I’m not being sexist, they have my vote because i’m confident in their ability to govern, but right now they need to polish up the image a little bit…McCain is perfect, Palin is just so attractive it IS distracting to some sheeple…put that hiar back up in the beehive, the schoolmarm look is a neutralizer.
JustTruth101 on September 18, 2008 at 3:38 PM
rockmom on September 18, 2008 at 3:36 PM
amazing how the jacka*s come out to play when Gov Palin is hitting her stride, taking questions from voters, and the market is up 400pts.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Cool. I hadn’t heard that one.
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I agree.
By the way, the reason the trolls are out in full force is due to their cult leader asking them to get into the “faces’ of us.
carbon_footprint on September 18, 2008 at 3:40 PM
A-freakin’-men.
Quit being such a bunch of faint-hearted wussies.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Yep – where the hell did that Palin surge go? McCain’s desperate last ditch effort (Palin) vanished into thin air.
Thanks for proving my point.
an_abstraction on September 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM
JustTruth101 on September 18, 2008 at 3:38 PM
again buzzoff. They have a connection deal with it! their spouses are right there beside them and they don’t seem to mind. Gov Palin brings the warmth to McCain’s toughness. Deal with it.
unseen on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
OTOH, she emphasizes the “t” at the end of words such as “cannot” and “won’t” as in “Patriotic Amercans cannot vote for Obama, as he won’t be a good president.”
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
How will Obama spin that little bit of good news?
csdeven on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Polls are a measure of current emotion, not long-term substance. People went a little crazy with the Palin worship and now they are feeling a bit silly. So, naturally, they take it out on her. That always happens after a “bounce”. If McCain/Palin keeps the focus on substance and steers away from playing the victim card — as they tried to do with lipstick-gate — they should be fine.
JackOfClubs on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
You’re school yard insult is deserving of the “it takes one to know one” reply, even though it really is best to not feed the trolls.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
The only point you have is on top of your head.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE!!11!!
Slublog on September 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM
God, you’re as much of a whiner as your namesake.
thirteen28 on September 18, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Watching fake conservatives have fake meltdowns is funny.
Mini14 on September 18, 2008 at 3:43 PM
I hope you arent referring to me as a troll. I have been here about a year and have been a consistent conservative.
I just call it the way I see it. You guys are blind and every day from now until November will be a little worse.
This was a horrible choice. A great choice for a week or so to get all the identity politics crowd going….but longer than that..what a friggin joke.
Go put your head back in the sand fellow conservatives. Next few months are going to suck for you and for the country.
I hope I am wrong…but I dont think I am.
Roger Waters on September 18, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Nonsense…unlike Obama, she’s not running for president.
ManlyRash on September 18, 2008 at 3:43 PM
My neighbor girl thinks Palin is crap. She knows nothing except what shows up in National Enquirer.
There’s got to be a way to expose media’s Hellish minions for who they are. Maybe a press conference just to clear up the lies going on about Troopergate?
Nobody wants to waste effort pointing out the poop smell coming from the press – especially because the press then poops even more about your “whining”. But one of the reasons I supported Fred in the primary was because I thought he really understood the central role of corrupt media in enabling corrupt government and was willing to give them a big red raspberry right in their face.
Slime-balling Palin’s personal life was seen as off-limits, but the same old political-media hackery and smokescreens on official things is dragging down people’s view of Palin. There has to be a way to reveal the lies so that people are as disgusted as they should be. I don’t think most people even know that there are two Troopergate investigations – one mandated by the Alaska Constitution and the other an illegal, unfunded partisan legislative slime attack on a non-crime. The media concentrates only on the legislative investigation and ignores the one that’s actually Consitutional. How can they get away with this? There has to be something we can do to expose the journalistic malpractice going on here.
justincase on September 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM
That’s so stupid. Obama is campaigning against the party whose president currently has a 30% approval rating.
He should be winning this handsdown, and your big comeback is that his bounce has faded.
Brilliant.
Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Roger Waters was always a drag on Pink Floyd too. Yeah, he had talent, but it was pessimistic depressing talent on loan from Satan.
kirkill on September 18, 2008 at 3:45 PM
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