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McCain hits Raines in new ad, “Advice”; Update: Obama tries CPR on “seven houses” lament

posted at 6:35 pm on September 18, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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John McCain has decided to attack Barack Obama on his connections to Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines.  With Obama attempting to pass off McCain as a newcomer to the Hope-Change Express, McCain points out Obama’s complete lack of economic experience — and points out that his adviser has a great deal of responsibility for Fannie Mae’s insolvency:

Obama has no background in economics. Who advises him? The Post says it’s Franklin Raines, for “advice on mortgage and housing policy.”

Shocking.

Under Raines, Fannie Mae committed “extensive financial fraud.” Raines made millions. Fannie Mae collapsed.

Taxpayers? Stuck with the bill.

Barack Obama. Bad advice. Bad instincts. Not ready to lead.

Team McCain knows that this will be a big problem for voters looking for a change in Washington.  Raines, and Obama’s other Fannie Mae advisor Jim Johnson, are exactly the kind of CEOs and big shots that Obama usually demonizes on the campaign trail.  They took exorbitant salaries and ran Fannie into the ground.

Here are a few articles of interest about Raines from the Washington Post:

  • March 2005: Perverse executive pay forced Raines out of his job.
  • May 2006: Extensive fraud at Fannie Mae under Raines’ direction, generating over $50 million in bonuses for nonexistent growth.
  • April 2008: Raines gives up $24 million in future payouts to avoid criminal charges in Fannie Mae fraud, although most of that was in worthless options; he pays $2 million in cash.

Note that Raines continued to advise Obama even after that settlement.  It’s not as though Obama didn’t know Raines’ past.  Apparently, he just didn’t care.

Excellent ad.  McCain needs to expand on this.

Update: JWF has the Obama response, which falls back on the “seven houses” meme:

This is another flat-out lie from a dishonorable campaign that is increasingly incapable of telling the truth. Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything — ever. And by the way, someone whose campaign manager and top advisor worked and lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shouldn’t be throwing stones from his seven glass houses.

Uh-huh.  By the way, it wasn’t the McCain campaign that “smeared” Obama, but also the Washington Post:

  • 7/16/08: “In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae’s chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.”
  • 8/28/08: “In the current crisis, their biggest backers have been Democrats such as Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (Mass.). Two members of Mr. Obama’s political circle, James A. Johnson and Franklin D. Raines, are former chief executives of Fannie Mae.

Team Obama never objected to this reporting before tonight.  Jim Johnson will almost certainly get the next starring role in a McCain ad, and what will Obama have to say about the man he originally tapped to pick his running mate?


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Five:

Listen closely Terrye, when a president lays his hand on that bible he is the president of all the people, not just the ones in his party. I do not think that Bush has ever been allowed from day one to forget that the Democrats are partisans. He won two national elections running against them. But at the same time when he has a job to do, I think that job is what matters most to him. He knows the Democrats are always going to hate him. No matter what he says or does.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 7:37 PM

I wasn’t serious, I was comparing the very presidential behavior to what I would do. But I probably wouldn’t even do it. The point is the MSM isn’t pointing out that the Republican candidate for president made a speech late in 2005 describing almost exactly what is happening now or that W had tried to rein this in back in 2003. Only to be told that the changes would hinder minority home ownership. So now even those of us who pay our bills have homes that are at least 20% under valued and have their lives put on hold because homes aren’t selling. I guess everything is still to much in flux to be going back down memory lane.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2008 at 7:44 PM

McCain needs to expand on this.

QFT

Micheal on September 18, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Very hard hitting ad. I like it.

Yakko77 on September 18, 2008 at 7:45 PM

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Bush a communicator? That ship has sailed. He makes a great speech but the only person worse than he is off the cuff is Obama.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Five:

The American people like Bush better than they like the Congressional leadership. And more Americans voted for Bush than for any other president.

And what the hell has this got to do with Obama? I mean really? Bush is not running against Obama. And the President did not do as much damage to the Republican brand as the corrupt Congressman of the last Congress did.

Bush has fought hard to do what he felt he had to do. If he had spent every waking moment of everyday fighting Democrats rather than trying to do his job there is no reason to believe that people would like him one bit better. The truth is that Bush’s favorability ratings are much higher than his job performance ratings. And the only way he could have made himself popular was not by doing some communicating it would have been by governing by polls, just like Clinton did.

And we all knew what Bush’s communications skills when we voted for him. If we wanted Laurence Olivier, we picked the wrong Texan.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 7:50 PM

If people don’t know who Raines is, you can always refer them to this +1 story:
The People Responsible

rhodeymark on September 18, 2008 at 7:53 PM

He won two national elections running against them. But at the same time when he has a job to do, I think that job is what matters most to him. He knows the Democrats are always going to hate him. No matter what he says or does.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Look, I have been in Bush’s corner from the start.
But time and time again, I’ve watched him let the Dems frame the debate. He NEVERS gets a handle on any controversy.
And in a time of war, a President has to be able to communicate the purpose and progress of the war. Bush did not. Again- the Dems are friggin traitors, plain and simple. Bush should have treated them as such. But instead, he treated them with kid gloves. Do you think Reagan would have put up with that sh!t? Really?

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 7:53 PM

Even though I don’t like negative ads, I know they work. And they work best when they are true. So, if not McCain/Palin, somebody has to hit Obama & the Democrats hard, fast & frequently on the Fannie & Freddie collapse.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 7:53 PM

Terrye and Five,

I believe W is like better than most think. I think some are disappointed about different things but the only people that really dislike him are partisans and they just think it is good for their elections. I am not sure it is.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Cindy:

I know, but that is what the press does. Bush also ask that the Treasury Department take over regulation for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac years ago, but the Democrats blocked it. Did the press talk about it? No, and if Bush had tried to make a point of it they would have played it down or ignored it.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Franklin Raines is just a guy who lived in Obama’s neighborhood.

Karl on September 18, 2008 at 7:54 PM

The American people like Bush better than they like the Congressional leadership. And more Americans voted for Bush than for any other president.

Great, he’s slightly more popular than a party of traitors!

Thanks for making my point.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Note that Raines continued to advise Obama even after that settlement. It’s not as though Obama didn’t know Raines’ past. Apparently, he just didn’t care.

Just like Obama did a house and land deal with Rezko AFTER he knew that Rezko was totally corrupt!

Chakra Hammer on September 18, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Am I the only one who isn’t seeing these ads on tv ever?

ikez78 on September 18, 2008 at 7:15 PM

haven’t seen any McCain ads, have seen today Obama ads connecting McCain to Bush here in NC

jp on September 18, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 7:53 PM

I vote for rope-a-dope. Maybe by the time they do a few on Raines and Johnson they will have enough info to tie him to Ayers. And I’d throw Rezcko in there for good measure. I wouldn’t let up, I’d make people unsure if the man is capable of picking out suitable socks let alone advisers.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2008 at 7:57 PM

A rousing Amen to that.

And I am unanimous in this.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:00 PM

Apparently Obama is now trying to throw Raines under the bus, by claiming Raines never advised him and the ad is more “lies.”

Added Obama spokesman Bill Burton:

This is another flat-out lie from a dishonorable campaign that is increasingly incapable of telling the truth. Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything — ever…

Now, when the ad was released, the McCain campaign also released this supporting information:

The Obama Campaign Has Solicited Franklin Raines, Who “Stepped Down As Fannie Mae’s Chief Executive Under The Shadow Of A $6.3 Billion Accounting Scandal,” For “Advice On Mortgage And Housing Policy.” “In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae’s chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.” (Anita Huslin, “On The Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter,” The Washington Post, 7/16/08)

The Washington Post: “Two Members Of Mr. Obama’s Political Circle, James A. Johnson And Franklin D. Raines, Are Former Chief Executives Of Fannie Mae.” (Editorial, “Tough Decision Coming,” The Washington Post, 8/28/08)

As far as I can tell, the Post has not corrected its reporting. Who is correct? We’ll see.

HT: NRO Corner

Wethal on September 18, 2008 at 8:01 PM

FiveWays:

That is not fair. So why can’t McCain get the press to be fair now? He was more popular with them, etc. Do you see him taking control of the agenda and keeping it?

You are acting as if all the president had to do was puff out his chest, give a speech, tell the press to stfu and he would have everything under his control. And ofcourse since Bush has not done that, then he has failed. That is not realistic. Not even close.

Bush did explain the war. I understood it. But Bush could not control all the media and all the opposition and all the enemies. You are oversimplifying things.

In truth considering the willingness of Republicans to stab the man in the back every time he failed to say how high when some pundit said jump he got precious little help from a lot of people who were supposed to be on his side.

When things were going good and he had coattails, they loved him. But then came some purely silly crap like Dubai popped up the circular firing squad was formed. And it was not the last time.

As if Bush would sell ports to terrorists. Stupid. That kind of thing did him more damage than his speaking sills.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 8:03 PM

And Five Ways, there are literally tens of millions of people in this country who are registered Democrats. I am not one of them, but to call the whole party traitors is crazy. I know people in their 80s who served in two wars who are Democrats.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Wethal on September 18, 2008 at 8:01 PM

The denial would be more believable if it had been made to the Washington Post for this July story.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Obama and Rezko thats the one that needs to be reported, and Obama-Rezko-Auchi a Billionaire Iraqi Baathist has been linked to the Lehman Brothers collapse!

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5076

Chakra Hammer on September 18, 2008 at 8:06 PM

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:00 PM

Too bad the McCain campaign doesn’t know where to find a lot of EXCELLENT free advice.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2008 at 8:06 PM

The problem with this is that McCain and his advisors are just as tied to Fannie and Freddy as Obama and his advisors. See
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11781.htm.

“McCain tapped Culvahouse, the former Reagan administration official, to head his search for a running mate.

Currently a partner at O’Melveny & Myers, Culvahouse lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae in 1999, 2003 and 2004, according to Senate records.

The campaign connections to the two mortgage companies go far beyond vice presidential vetters.

McCain campaign manager Davis headed the Homeownership Alliance, a lobbying association that included Fannie, Freddie, nonprofit groups, real estate agents, homebuilders and consumer advocates. The group’s stated goal was to increase affordable housing. But it also worked to oppose congressional efforts to tighten controls on Fannie and Freddie.

In July 2003, Davis wrote to the American Banker, taking issue with an opinion piece by Leslie Paige of Citizens Against Government Waste, arguing that Fannie and Freddie should operate with greater transparency.

“Several of Ms. Paige’s assertions bear correction,” Davis wrote, defending Fannie and Freddie on behalf of the group. “The GSEs are subject to an innovative and stringent risk-based capital stress test — the toughest in the financial services industry.”

Other McCain aides with ties to the two companies include economic adviser Aquiles Suarez, who worked as Fannie’s director of government and industry relations; congressional liaison John Green, who lobbied for Fannie from 2004 to 2007; and finance co-chairman Frederic V. Malek, a former Freddie board member.”

jim m on September 18, 2008 at 8:07 PM

jim m on September 18, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Who in the McCain circle actually had positions comparable to Johnson and Raines?

Wethal on September 18, 2008 at 8:10 PM

So how can Obama claim that this guy Raines was not part of his campaign if there is independent information saying he was?

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Then Read this

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5076

Chakra Hammer on September 18, 2008 at 8:10 PM

jim:

It is not the same thing. Did these guys steal tens of millions of dollars?

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 8:11 PM

And Five Ways, there are literally tens of millions of people in this country who are registered Democrats. I am not one of them, but to call the whole party traitors is crazy. I know people in their 80s who served in two wars who are Democrats.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 8:05 PM

I’m talking about the Democratic leadership, Terrye, but after the treasonist crap they pulled with the war- why would so many people still be in the Democrat Party?

Oh, that’s right- because Bush let the treasonist bastards convince the country that the war was a mistake.

When the the Report came out on the Harmony Documents and clearly showed that Saddam was harboring, training and financing Al Qaeda subsidiary groups- WHY IN THE HELL DIDN’T BUSH CALL A PRESS CONFERENCE AND SHOUT THIS TO THE HIGH HEAVENS?

Instead……nothing. Nada. Not a friggin word.

Classy.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Franklin Rains says he was never an adviser to Barack Obama. I guess all of those times he was seen at Barack’s campaign and the Democrat convention he was just the food taster.

Jdripper on September 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Five Ways, I greatly value your contributions to Hot Air, however on the point of calling Democrats traitors, I agree with Terrye. I believe such a claim is not true. At the very least, i would hope you could see that it’s not politically effective. Treason is simply too hot a term to use.

However, I strongly believe that liberal policies are almost always wrong, and often dangerously so. And sometimes they threaten our national security.

In posting, I almost always use this specific liberal adjective instead of the generic Democrat, because I might agree with some centrist and conservative Democrats on some issues. Also, There are many Democrats who are going to vote for McCain/Palin, and we need more of them.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM

I guess all of those times he was seen at Barack’s campaign and the Democrat convention he was just the food taster.

Jdripper on September 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM

And now comes the cup of hemlock.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Five Ways, I greatly value your contributions to Hot Air, however on the point of calling Democrats traitors, I agree with Terrye. I believe such a claim is not true. At the very least, i would hope you could see that it’s not politically effective. Treason is simply too hot a term to use.

Loxodonta, again- I’m not refering to all Democrats, but the majority in Congress. And if their claims that “Bush lied, people died” isn’t treason; then what is it?

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:19 PM

McCain finance co-chairman Frederic V. Malek was an (apparently asleep at the switch) former Freddie board member. Several of the other directors are prominent GOP types, including Ann Korologos, Reagan’s labor secretary (although not directly connected to the McCain campaign). And several of the executive officers worked in the Reagan or Bush administrations.

jim m on September 18, 2008 at 8:23 PM

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Not only was Saddam giving money to the families of suicide bombers after 9/11, Bill Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act, that made it the Policy of the United States to support “regime change.” that was passed by unanimous consent in the Senate.(Where was Joe Biden?) Oh yea.. He Voted FOR THE WAR..

Chakra Hammer on September 18, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Sweet!

LifeTrek on September 18, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Not only was Saddam giving money to the families of suicide bombers after 9/11, Bill Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act, that made it the Policy of the United States to support “regime change.” that was passed by unanimous consent in the Senate.(Where was Joe Biden?) Oh yea.. He Voted FOR THE WAR..

Chakra Hammer on September 18, 2008 at 8:30 PM

And did we hear a word from Bush on this……no.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Taxpayers? Stuck with the bill.

Barack Obama? Stuck on stupid.

How it should have ended.

OneGyT on September 18, 2008 at 8:35 PM

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Sorry. I did read that you made that point after I posted. (I appologize for being slow at reading & typing.)

As to treason, I think the recitation of political slogans is not enough to meet the Constitutional definition, especially as subsequently determined by Supreme Court rulings.

To me, it’s enough to state that liberals who make such claims are dangerously wrong, misinformed, or are suffering from bush Derangement Syndrome, etc.

So, I disagree with you on this particular point.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:39 PM

The should run that add as often as possible.

mindhacker on September 18, 2008 at 8:53 PM

To me, it’s enough to state that liberals who make such claims are dangerously wrong, misinformed, or are suffering from bush Derangement Syndrome, etc.

So, I disagree with you on this particular point.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 8:39 PM

You forgot the most accurate description Loxodonta, LYING.

I’m still waiting for the Dems to show actual evidence that Bush lied……….

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, Penny Pritzker, Tom Collins, Tony Rezko and ACORN.

McCain needs to keep building on all of Obama’s Fannie Mae-Freddie Mac connections along with Tony Rezko and ACORN. They’re all linked.

And then he needs to point out that in 2005 he tried to fix FM-FM but was blocked by the dems.

Sensible Mom on September 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Don’t hold your breath, because there isn’t any factual evidence supporting this claim. And I bet some making this claim also know it cannot be substantiated.

So, yes, some on the left are also liars, almost pathological in many cases, especially the leaders.

However, the liberal I discussed politics with today is just your average “typical white person” who is very misinformed, and cannot discuss politics rationally with anyone who has a disagreeing opinion. How to deal with these people, I have no idea. I’ve been screamed at, spat at, slapped and called many names. So, I tend to avoid discussing politics with liberals.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 9:06 PM

haven’t seen any McCain ads, have seen today Obama ads connecting McCain to Bush here in NC

jp on September 18, 2008 at 7:57 PM

ZOMG–if there is one region of the country where Bush is actually still kinda popular, it’s the South. I know lots of folks just moved to NC from NY and like to think they are waaaay more smarter than those drawling hick locals, but as of yet, the Yankees are still in the minority in NC.

Obama just spent money helping McCain win NC. LOL

funky chicken on September 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM

However, the liberal I discussed politics with today is just your average “typical white person” who is very misinformed, and cannot discuss politics rationally with anyone who has a disagreeing opinion. How to deal with these people, I have no idea. I’ve been screamed at, spat at, slapped and called many names. So, I tend to avoid discussing politics with liberals.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Yup. It’s like trying to have a discussion with a 2 year old about why they can’t have ice cream for dinner. Or have that really cool toy by the cash register. Completely irrational … maybe that’s why libs’ kids are always brattier–the parents never became adults themselves.

funky chicken on September 18, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Okay that is more like it! “Not ready” was a good good slogan that hits me where I live. More of this please.

petunia on September 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM

.
This ‘not ready’ thing needs to GET LOST.
The term implies that given more time and experience, he would be acceptable as POTUS. In other words, just forget about all he has done or not done and wait for him to be ready.
.
The effort should be to show Obama to be unacceptable for POTUS at any point based on his record and actions to date.

News2Use on September 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Great ad — run it to death.

D2Boston on September 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

If Bush had been a better communicator- Most of America would actually believe we are winning the war AND a Socialist Community Oraganizer would NEVER have gotten this close to the White House. No?

Nothing more frustrating than Bush’s rope-a-dope while getting bashed and lied about for 7 years. Our troops and the people who supported the troops could have used the inspiration.

ex-Democrat on September 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

The good news is that if Obama gets elected, Rains will be in prison serving time for the failed Freddie Mac.

Oh, wait, he was propping up the community organizers who would now be tasked to investigate…

Never mind!

InTheBellyoftheBeast on September 18, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Good ad. Let’s see 50 more just like it.

McCain better DEFEND himself better than W when he gets elected.

Mojave Mark on September 18, 2008 at 9:56 PM

SO, then, according to Senator BIDEN, who has only ONE house, John McCain must be a BIGGER Patriot than either he or the other Presidential candidate because he pays MORE taxes than either one does.

originalpechanga on September 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM

Karen Tumulty at TIME declares this ad racist.

MayBee on September 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM

McCain finance co-chairman Frederic V. Malek was an (apparently asleep at the switch) former Freddie board member. Several of the other directors are prominent GOP types, including Ann Korologos, Reagan’s labor secretary (although not directly connected to the McCain campaign). And several of the executive officers worked in the Reagan or Bush administrations.

jim m on September 18, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Please tell us which of those people made the decision to misstate Fannie Mae’s earnings by $11 billion, ordered subordinates to do whatever it took to meet earnings targets in order to maximize his bonuses, pocketed over $75 million in such bonuses based o illegal accounting practices, tried to get his regulator fired, and resigned in disgrace.

Franklin Raines owns a single home in Bermuda that is worth more than all of Cindy McCain’s condos.

He is the Ken Lay of this financial scandal.

rockmom on September 18, 2008 at 10:23 PM

I like negative ads, but only if they’re true. Someone attempted to poll us today, but I had to tell the truth… :(
Not a citizen, can’t vote. (And yes, would resist ACORN). Bugger.

Fortunata on September 18, 2008 at 10:32 PM

obamatheliar

christene on September 18, 2008 at 10:32 PM

PDQ! Alert the presses and get after this McCain people!

McCain also needs to demand an investigation! If they were so happy to see the 9-11 Commission and Ken Lay and everyone in between go down then they should welcome daylight on this issue.

Funny how THE ONE is not being very bipartisan on this!

freeus on September 18, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Jan 2005…
On Labor Day, he was a favorite to be Treasury Secretary should John Kerry win the White House. At yearend, he had left under a cloud. The charmed career of Franklin D. Raines — a poor kid from Seattle who climbed through Harvard and a Rhodes Scholarship to become White House budget director and CEO of Fannie Mae (FNM ) — crashed to a halt on Dec. 21. That was six days after the Securities & Exchange Commission’s top accountant declared that mortgage giant Fannie misstated earnings for 3 1/2 years, leading to an estimated $9 billion restatement that will wipe out 40% of profits from 2001 to mid-2004.

Supporters of Raines, 55, insisted that he wasn’t culpable for Fannie’s misuse of obscure accounting standards. But that argument didn’t wash. Raines was in charge in 2001, when Fannie chose to create what the SEC dryly called “its own unique methodology” to calculate the earnings impact of its trillion-dollar portfolio of derivatives. Raines gave Chief Financial Officer J. Timothy Howard free rein and tolerated “weak or nonexistent” financial controls, according to a scathing report issued in September by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, Fannie’s regulator.

Worse, the CEO failed to manage the scandal. When sibling Freddie Mac’s accounting first came under fire in mid-2003, Raines’s arrogant insistence that Fannie was above reproach spurred OFHEO to do a white-glove examination. And when that uncovered the improper bookkeeping, Raines insisted on an SEC review, which he maintained would vindicate Fannie.

“Frank was supposed to be the great political risk manager,” says independent banking analyst Bert Ely in Alexandria, Va. “Instead, he compounded the problems.”

—Business Week

rockmom on September 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM

So, under the bus with the editorial board of the Washington Post?

funky chicken on September 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM

This is another flat-out lie from a dishonorable campaign that is increasingly incapable of telling the truth. Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything — ever. And by the way, someone whose campaign manager and top advisor worked and lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shouldn’t be throwing stones from his seven glass houses.

Based on new evidence that indicates that Obama apparently overpaid anywhere from $360,000-$469,000 on his house, he’s the last person who should be calling other people’s property into question (especially when they take no part in the transactions to acquire them.)

Anyone lacking the good fiscal judgment it takes to keep from overspending the equivalent of one-to-two new houses in a single transaction involving their own money is not someone you want to give access to the public checkbook.

ironman on September 18, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Fannie Mae, the home mortgage company, was sued yesterday for securities fraud by the attorney general of Ohio, who accused the company of manipulating its earnings to inflate artificially the price of its common stock. The suit was filed on behalf of the Ohio Public Employees Retirement System, the State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio and the Ohio Bureau of Workers’ Compensation, according to the attorney general, Jim Petro. Mr. Petro was seeking class-action status for the suit, which would enable him to proceed on behalf of investors who held Fannie Mae shares during the period of the suspected fraud. Franklin Raines, the chief executive of Fannie Mae; and its chief financial officer; and its controller were named as defendants in the suit.

–New York Times, November 20, 2004

rockmom on September 18, 2008 at 10:40 PM

“Dishonorable campaign”? Oh **** off Obama.

Cardiganfox on September 18, 2008 at 10:47 PM

However, the liberal I discussed politics with today is just your average “typical white person” who is very misinformed, and cannot discuss politics rationally with anyone who has a disagreeing opinion. How to deal with these people, I have no idea. I’ve been screamed at, spat at, slapped and called many names. So, I tend to avoid discussing politics with liberals.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 9:06 PM

I’ve debated many liberals. I never avoid them- I go after their cognitive throats. I have my talking points down pat and I can rip them out in rapid fire. I’ve heard all their urban legends and I can counter them and retort with counter-questions. And 90% of the time they end the debate with “Well, you must listen to Rush Limbaugh and FoxNews!” and then they storm off. They always walk away- I do not. If they start to yell, I lower my voice and stay on point with a laser point focus. In short, I drive em friggin nutz! This happened in a resturant the other day and I got a round of applause from a group of tables nearby. I even got a couple of handshakes. If any Lib starts with me- I will damn sure end it for them.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 10:49 PM

He’s been in Washington only two years and has a trail of fraud, incompetency, and huge salaries for those responsible for Fannie and Freddie. Just think what he could do in four years and POTUS.

d1carter on September 18, 2008 at 11:12 PM

If any Lib starts with me- I will damn sure end it for them.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 10:49 PM

I’m a disabled old man, so I am no longer in a position to be as vigorous as you are in debating liberals, or anyone else for that matter. On a good day, I’m lucky if I’m able to string words into coherent sentences that won’t bore someone to death.

This is why I so admire many of the members here. When the trolls are away, and posts are not filled with references to contemporary culture or strange abbreviations that I do not understand, or v*lg*r t*rms that I am apparently not supposed to be able to decipher, but instead there is discussion or debate of ideas, values, history, facts, strategy, etc., I greatly enjoy reading them. The humor here also helps.

So, thank you for this discussion.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything.

I did not have sex with that woman.

6 new definitions of the word “advise” arriving in 4, 3, 2 , 1 . . .

smellthecoffee on September 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM

So, thank you for this discussion.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Thank YOU sir.

I was not aware of your age and circumstances, Loxodonta.

I’m sorry that you have been spat on and slapped. I wish I could have prevented that, sir. You have my admiration.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM

I’m lucky if I’m able to string words into coherent sentences that won’t bore someone to death.

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM

p.s.

I’ve always found your posts to be anything BUT boring, Loxodonta.

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Buffett’s Berkshire Accelerates Pace of Acquisitions (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahgsBrJatCso&refer=worldwide)

Warren Buffet is gobbling things up fast when prices have been driven so low. I do not think Buffet will do this if he feels the fundamentals are not there to begin with.

Birdseye on September 18, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Looks like we found Barry’s Achilles Heel.

The route is on if McCain pursues: Investigation? Maybe too far. But, Obama definitely is getty tweaked on this one.

Thrust more while its butter.

Sapwolf on September 18, 2008 at 11:40 PM

I hate the “class warfare” meme that the Obama camp keeps playing. It’s completely paper thin, and reminds of kindergartners complaining because they don’t as many cookies as their neighbors.

baxtrice on September 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything — ever.

Oh, silly boy. This ain’t Chicago!

SouthernGent on September 18, 2008 at 11:55 PM

Wow…Wikipedia is fast!

Someone save the screen capture (I don’t know how…I know…loser!) before the Chicago thug machine changes it!

SouthernGent on September 18, 2008 at 11:58 PM

FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM
FiveWays on September 18, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Thanks. That was very kind of you.

But if you call me sir again, I will be forced to, to, to, well I don’t know what I’ll do, darn it, but I’ll do something!

(Bet that really scared him.)

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 11:59 PM

Loxodonta on September 18, 2008 at 11:59 PM

Scared me!

Oh, silly boy. This ain’t Chicago!

SouthernGent on September 18, 2008 at 11:55 PM

You can’t say boy!!

Cindy Munford on September 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM

Cindy Munford on September 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM

Boy! You’ve got that right.

Sorry!

Oh, boy!

Sorry!

I’ll try to be a good boy.

Sorry!

(I could go on, but it wouldn’t be prudent.)

Loxodonta on September 19, 2008 at 12:24 AM

There is also this:

New York AG Launches Probe Of Short-Selling

A Dem wants to jump on top of this before the s*** hits the fan, perhaps?

Manipulation

Connie on September 19, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Saved the screenshot, if anyone wants it…

Mary in LA on September 19, 2008 at 12:44 AM

Saved the screenshot, if anyone wants it…

Mary in LA on September 19, 2008 at 12:44 AM

Of what?

Connie on September 19, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Connie on September 19, 2008 at 12:49 AM

The Wikipedia page on Franklin Raines. It will be cleaned up shortly but right now it spills the beans on the fact that he is an Obama adviser and that he was involved in wrong doing with FannieMae/FreddieMac.

Cindy Munford on September 19, 2008 at 1:49 AM

Ok, Michelle.

I’ll do what most of Obama’s supporters are doing, and vote for him because he’s black.

(See, it’s ok for Joe Biden to say it, but not for me.)

Hawkins1701 on September 19, 2008 at 2:13 AM

Crap, wrong thread, sorry.

Hawkins1701 on September 19, 2008 at 2:14 AM

Cindy Munford on September 19, 2008 at 1:49 AM

Thanks, Cindy. I didn’t get to read the entire thread, so I wasn’t sure.

Connie on September 19, 2008 at 2:25 AM

Calling the ghost of Willie Horton? Willie Horton are you there?

TOPV on September 19, 2008 at 5:27 AM

It doesn’t matter if they change it. Wiki has a detailed record of what, when, and who changed or added information. That is what makes it unreliable. Any schmo can edit any page.

csdeven on September 19, 2008 at 5:31 AM

Maybe Charlie Rangle has several more houses (rental properties) he’s not telling us (or the IRS) about.

alwyr on September 19, 2008 at 7:39 AM

It appears that McCain finally gets it. This excellent ad should be the first, in a rapid-fire series of factual attacks, on the real Barry Hussein Obama. I hope McCain does a detailed ad on the Community Organizer’s close alignment with the notorious ACORN community organization.

sinsing on September 19, 2008 at 7:52 AM

The leadership of Fannie Mae is like a nightmare.

I’m guessing Raines was an equal opportunity suit, and of course he’s brothers with the EO presidential candidate.

This all has more to do with PC not having anyplace in business, along with the feds not getting involved. Take a bunch of entitled, political hacks and put them in charge of anything that doesn’t get a yearly budget of taxpayer money, and it will always fail. That is a consistent.

Hening on September 19, 2008 at 7:55 AM

This is all a futile exercise. I didn’t see anyone, other than Fox play this ad last night. Nobody is covering the Raines, Gorelick, Johnson angle on the networks or cable outlets. He’s getting away with it.

AYNBLAND on September 19, 2008 at 8:30 AM

It’s hard for me to see why people still trust or even like Obama. Of the partial list of people close to him who are at best unethical and at worst, downright crooks, Raines and Johnson are just two more of the same. Add those names to the already shady list that includes Rezko, Ayers and Wright(and let’s throw in the hacker for good measure)and it is truly frightening that so many do not see through Obama. It becomes increasingly obvious that Obama is simply one of the above at heart.

jeanie on September 19, 2008 at 9:00 AM

“I am not an advisor to Barack Obama, nor have I provided his campaign with advice on housing or economic matters.” – RAINES

“Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything — ever. ”
BILL BURTON

Dave Rywall on September 19, 2008 at 9:00 AM

Of course, Obama will deny or minimize all of his questionable associates since the “change” part of Obama’s mantra usually means a “change” of the facts to suit himself.

jeanie on September 19, 2008 at 9:15 AM

McCain is taking Obama to the woodshed in WI right now- he’s sounding all kinds of stong and leadership-like.

Buh-by Obama

anniekc on September 19, 2008 at 9:18 AM

Oh yeah- like Bill, “Immadork” Burton should be trusted.

anniekc on September 19, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Dave Rywall on September 19, 2008 at 9:00 AM

McCain says the Post reported it. They did.

You’re next, Mr. Johnson! You too, Ms. Pritzker!

DrSteve on September 19, 2008 at 9:23 AM

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