Left freaks out after McCain cold-shoulders Spanish PM

posted at 5:45 pm on September 18, 2008 by Allahpundit

Read the transcript. It’s a testament to Josh Marshall’s influence among the left that his obsessing over this very stupid exchange is enough to push it onto the media’s plate. Here’s the money part, which “proves” that McCain is either (a) senile, (b) so stupid that he doesn’t know which hemisphere Spain is in, (c) ready to treat Spain as an enemy state:

Q: So you have to wait and see if [Zapatero] is willing to meet with you, will you be able to do it in the White House?

McCain: Well, again, I don’t. All I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that’s judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region.

He doesn’t want to say definitively that he’ll meet with Zapatero given that relations between him and Bush have been, shall we say, frosty, and he doesn’t want to say definitively that he won’t meet with him because Spain is, after all, an ally, so he’s filibustering her with a stock answer about the criteria he’d use for meeting with any world leader. The reference to Latin America is his (admittedly awkward) way of steering the conversation back to that area of the world, which is where the interview began. Don’t believe me? Just ask the interviewer. She took it exactly the same way. And the punchline? McCain already said he’d meet with Zapatero earlier this year. He may be downplaying that now to burnish his “tough leader” image for the general election, but if so, he’s no guiltier of opportunistic flip-flopping than The One is vis-a-vis, say, NAFTA.

Don’t miss Soeren Kern’s piece on this idiocy at Pajamas, adding a bit of context about Zapatero’s cynical anti-American demagoguery. Exit question: Why would McCain be cool about committing to meeting with a guy who’s on record as saying he hopes Obama wins?

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47 more days of this? Really?

lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM

the Left freaks out? Really? This is news?

dog bites man………

Janos Hunyadi on September 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Figures the left would be upset we don’t meet with this Socialist twit. What are they worried about anyway, Obama’s going to win and they’ll have him over for a State Dinner, right?

JammieWearingFool on September 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM

47 more days of this? Really?

lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM

If Obama loses there will be years more of this and worse. BDS times a thousand.

D0WNT0WN on September 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM

I notice this is posted at 6:35 PM. Again, AP is a man ahead of his time.

JammieWearingFool on September 18, 2008 at 5:50 PM

D0WNT0WN on September 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM

No doubt. I don’t know how the left does it. I couldn’t be mad for so long at anything. It’s borderline insanity.

lorien1973 on September 18, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Zapatero is a commie, appeasing douchebag.

lodge on September 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Zapataro has been a disaster for Spain. Unemployment is higher than under Aznar, and the young, educated, and skilled are getting the hell out (usually to Britain or France).

Zapataro has fellated Castro, Morales, and Chavez (like Joshua Michah Marshall), so I see what the have in common.

PimFortuynsGhost on September 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM

For what it’s worth from Althouse: “I’ve listened to the audio, and what Marshall is missing is that when the interviewer says “But what about Europe?” it sounds as though she says “But what about you?” That’s why McCain says “What about me, what?” Zapatero is probably ecstatic that his name is evening being mentioned since he has accomplished nada internationally and Spaniards like to use photo-ops with POTUS a mark of international stature.

esperpento on September 18, 2008 at 5:52 PM

* Checks electoral map *

Yep, just as I thought. Spain still has only 0 electoral votes.

Hollowpoint on September 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Spain is an ally? When did that happen?

oakpack on September 18, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Let’s not forget that Zapatero is a socialist, also. He’s head of the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party.

CP on September 18, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Minor issue, but boy does the MSM run with these things. :(

Sapwolf on September 18, 2008 at 6:02 PM

McCain will not see a devote socialist without preconditions????

No wonder the left is freaking out.

jukin on September 18, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Well, Spain was a US ally under Aznar.

Now, the Spanish government is an ally of the Marxists in Latin America.

The people are more concerned about Real Madrid, Barcelona, and the rest of La Liga and trying to stay employed. The Popular Party should have no problem winning the next round of elections.

PimFortuynsGhost on September 18, 2008 at 6:03 PM

What would be the point of meeting with Zapatero, anyway? I don’t see any purpose to this.

progressoverpeace on September 18, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Jihadi butt kisser. Do ya STILL think they’ll just leave you alone now? How many attacks on Spain have been attempted (and stopped, thank God) since the withdrawl from Iraq?

Tony737 on September 18, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Josh Marshall got a tingle up his leg “in the Hemisphere” thinking that he discovered a “gotcha” as if the hemisphere meant “North America”. He reminds me of Hollywood numbskulls on the Jay Leno “Jaywalking” segment who think that Canada and Mexico are parts of the USA.

maverick muse on September 18, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Ok, I’ve read all the commentary links AP provided, and went back and re-read the text. You have to put an awful lot of ‘context’ on that pig to make it anything but an oinker.

Gaffer McCain did it once again, and again. I am wondering more and more about his mental sharpness over the long haul.

trailboss on September 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Zapatero? Seriously?

Then again, it’s hardly surprising to see leftards whining about disrespecting a tool who won power thanks to terrorists.

Red Cloud on September 18, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Oh who cares? Considering some of the truly bizarre and weird and just plain strange things that have come out of the Obama camp, I can not believe anyone would make an issue of this.

By the Zapatero is not our friend.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 6:09 PM

“I didn’t get the impression that he didn’t know who Zapatero was or where Spain was,” the reporter, Yoli Cuello, told me. “Honestly, what I thought was that he didn’t want to answer the question with a yes or no answer.”

Pressed on why McCain would keep seguing into a discussion of Latin America if he knew who she was talking about, Cuello said: “I think because I was talking with him before about Latin America. He was not giving me a straight answer. I wasn’t expecting a straight answer.”

Ain’t no thing.

Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2008 at 6:10 PM

trailboss:

Oh come on. How anally retentive can you get? Obama screws up the kind of stuff that most grade schoolers can get and you are worried about McCain.

Oh yeah, is such a pansy I can understand why. After all,what would he know about pressure.

Please. People need to stop freaking analyzing every single word from every possible angle.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 6:12 PM

I think Europe is in the Western Hemisphere? I’ll go google it, but, help me out a bit….

And, of course, Zapatero is a socialist bastard who is friends of Castro and Chavez and their ilk, and who has tried to kick sand in the US’s face a few times. So be it–you wanna be our enemy? OK by me. But then don’t stamp your teeny little feet that you don’t get invited to tea in the WH rose garden.

funky chicken on September 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM

“The rain in Spain falls mainly on McCain”.

Still laughing as I type on that one.

aquaviva on September 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Sarah Palin ha hecho estas personas dementes. Disfrute del espectáculo.

Jim Treacher on September 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Rocinante weeps.

Limerick on September 18, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Sarah Palin ha hecho estas personas dementes. Disfrute del espectáculo.

Jim Treacher on September 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Das stimmt.

baldilocks on September 18, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Sarah Palin y John McCain podría hacer estas personas suicidas. Esto haría del mundo un lugar mejor.

Right_of_Attila on September 18, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Zapatero is one of the most disgraceful leaders of Spain (and there were many). I was overjoyed at McCain not wanting to meet this guy immediately. He is a Marxist and a kiss butt of Hugo Chavez and Fidel. He abandoned the war in Iraq for political gain and used the attacks in Spain by Al-Qaeda to blame the former great patriot and president of España.

jencab on September 18, 2008 at 6:23 PM

How many states are there in the United States? 57? That answer should be a disqualifier for anyone who gave it. If you do not know how many states there are how can you be qualified to be President? That was the king of gaffs. It was the dumbest thing I ever heard a politician say, ever. No matter what McCain does, I know he knows how many states there are. Ayers/Obama 08

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on September 18, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Forgive me if this is a misplaced question, but is Zappy the guy the Spaniards voted in after the train station bombing, thereby caving to the terrorists wishes? If so, McCain needs to wait for Spain to grow a set and elect a leader, instead of agreeing to meet with the peoples’ “weenie”.

AubieJon on September 18, 2008 at 6:31 PM

Sarah Palin ha hecho estas personas dementes. Disfrute del espectáculo.

Jim Treacher on September 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM

First, sad to say, my Spanish literacy failed me. I know loco but not dementes. I was so close.

Second, I just checked out your site (which I’ve been doing almost daily since you’ve been more active with it), and I saw my name. My first thanks on a blog, and really, I’m so glad someone with more talent than I took that comment and made it better.

Esthier on September 18, 2008 at 6:32 PM

he doesn’t know which hemisphere Spain is in,

Look at a map. Spain is west of the Prime Meridian (which runs through the Greenwich Observatory in England), and north of the equator, so it’s in the Western and Northern hemispheres, just like the United States. In this context, since he mentions Latin America, that would probably be the Western. And relations with Spain/Portugal are likely to affect relations with their former colonies.

But since “everybody knows” it’s in the Eastern hemisphere, that makes Mac an idiot, right?

The Monster on September 18, 2008 at 6:36 PM

Zapatero (aka Mr. Bean) is an inept, anti-American, leftist wanker; even the Spanish socialists are embarrassed by him. The next Administration should freeze this tool out until the voters finally dump him. Nicely played, Maverick.

Travis Bickle on September 18, 2008 at 6:48 PM

Oh come on. How anally retentive can you get? Obama screws up the kind of stuff that most grade schoolers can get and you are worried about McCain.

Terrye on September 18, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Yes, I am worried about McCain precisely because I ain’t votin’ for no Chicago wannabe. I’ll only start worrying about Oby if he actually gets into office.

basia basiliscum meum

trailboss on September 18, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Are Spanish troops doing anything in Afghanistan besides doing jack?

Speedwagon82 on September 18, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Zapatero is your typical liberal socialist weasel who wouldn’t be in office unless the terrorist attack brought the cowards out of the woodwork to vote him into office. He’s scared of his shadow and is not to be trusted. McCain knows his way around these elitists. He’s been crossing the aisle in Congress for years.

volsense on September 18, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Are Spanish troops doing anything in Afghanistan besides doing jack?

Speedwagon82 on September 18, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Yes, they think about going home and doing jill.

trailboss on September 18, 2008 at 7:04 PM

Zapatero’sis an unabashed leftist and makes Barry look like Pat Buchanan.

I would meet with him before I met with Il Jong, but only just before him.

When is Hot Air going to get firmly behind this ticket, and stop trying to “come from the right, but ‘play it down the middle?’”

Screw the traffic count, already.

GulfCoastBamaFan on September 18, 2008 at 7:16 PM

Exit question: Why would McCain be cool about committing to meeting with a guy who’s on record as saying he hopes Obama wins?

Is Spain one of the 57 states?

brtex on September 18, 2008 at 7:17 PM

The Monster on September 18, 2008 at 6:36 PM

yeah, which is why I was kinda confused by making fun of him based on the hemisphere thing. Colombia is Northern Hemisphere, right? damn, I’ll go get a map

funky chicken on September 18, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Colombia, Venezuela, Cuba all NH. I was wrong, most of western europe is eastern hemisphere.

little slice of fwance is western

I really don’t see a gaffe here on McCain’s part.

funky chicken on September 18, 2008 at 7:26 PM

McCain doesn’t need to meet with Zapatero. He will have enough European friends in Sarkozy (France), Merkel (Germany), and Berlusconi (Italy), all conservatives.

By the way, when are the next elections in Spain? Maybe it’s time for a regime change!

Steve Z on September 18, 2008 at 7:26 PM

By the way, when are the next elections in Spain? Maybe it’s time for a regime change!

Be careful what you wish for. The last ‘regime change’ in Spain came about after a terrorist attack aimed at ending a regime that was friendly with the US war effort. How far left can they go from here?

GulfCoastBamaFan on September 18, 2008 at 7:41 PM

Take it as you will, but I consider Spain to have been a waste of space since Franco died. Tough though he was, you knew where you stood with him.

OldEnglish on September 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Be careful what you wish for. The last ‘regime change’ in Spain came about after a terrorist attack aimed at ending a regime that was friendly with the US war effort.

Nope. That was six years ago. The last election (earlier this year) in Spain was Zapatero’s re-election. He ginned up fear of the “nasty” “right-wing” PP under Aznar’s successor taking power.

aengus on September 18, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Exit question: Why would McCain be cool about committing to meeting with a guy who’s on record as saying he hopes Obama wins?

Asked and answered.

Jaibones on September 18, 2008 at 9:55 PM

The rain in Spain falls mainly on McCain.

Allah, it’s lines like this that make me come back to HotAir… day….after day….after year…after year….

Do you just sit around and think of pithy things to say? :) :) :)

pullingmyhairout on September 18, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Exit question: Why would McCain be cool about committing to meeting with a guy who’s on record as saying he hopes Obama wins?

So it would be reasonable for McCain to be cool on meeting with Gordon Brown?

Tom_Shipley on September 19, 2008 at 8:20 AM

So it would be reasonable for McCain to be cool on meeting with Gordon Brown?

Tom_Shipley on September 19, 2008 at 8:20 AM

Being cool on meeting with him doesn’t mean he isn’t going to do so as president. And your argument really doesn’t improve by adding Brown. Obviously McCain would have to meet with all of his allies, not just the UK.

Esthier on September 19, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Gordon Brown, though ineffective and buffoonish, isn’t a socialist douchebag who can’t wait to slurp Chavez, Morales, and Castro’s corpse.

You seriously can not compare Brown and Mr. Bean.

PimFortuynsGhost on September 19, 2008 at 9:29 AM