Woman with 14% approval rating: Just a reminder that Hillary’s supporters are backing Obama
posted at 8:07 pm on September 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
Is Congress’s approval rating still 14 percent, actually? I’ve been goofing on her for that for so long I’m sure it must be out of date. Let me check. Yep — out of date. They’re at 23 percent now, with a better than even chance of another downturn once Reid’s latest bon mot about no one knowing what to do about the economy starts to penetrate.
The 23% Speaker is technically correct here but misses the larger point: It’s true, a majority of Hillary fans are backing Obama, as would a majority of the supporters of any failed Democratic candidate. It’s also true that the minority of them who aren’t supporting him is sufficiently large that it might very well make the difference in the election. According to tonight’s otherwise dismal CBS poll, fully one-quarter of Clintonites are voting for McCain even at this late date despite their relative coolness to Palin, suggesting reasons for their support more substantive than simple gender identification. And speaking of which, remember all the whining from TNR and other leftists after Palin was named about the gall of Republicans in trying to appeal to women on the basis of identity politics? What the hell’s going on in this press conference if not precisely that? Did Pelosi feel she couldn’t pay proper tribute to the left’s new feminist pope with any men in the camera frame?
If you want to see a Hillaryite turned McCainocrat in action, click the image below the vid. Exit quotation: “There are millions of us out there who are connected and we’re getting out the vote for you. When the mainstream media says Hillary supporters are not going to vote for McCain, I tell them they are wrong. We appreciate your campaign reaching out to women.”
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I’m so peaved that today’s townhall was only on fox for like 5 minutes. And cspan isn’t covering it. I wanna see the whole thing.
McCain did pretty good, even on a healthcare question, that I saw asked. Didn’t see Palin answer anything though :(
lorien1973 on September 17, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I guess there are enough women out their that KNOW that Obama is NOT the ONE.
Nancy, clueless one, does NOT.
originalpechanga on September 17, 2008 at 8:11 PM
That’s gotta be typo. Isn’t Pelosi at 2.3%?
fogw on September 17, 2008 at 8:13 PM
So Obama forced Pelosi to get a group of dem women and hold a press conference to counter Lady Rothschild?!
ahahahahahaha. Paranoid, much?
Enoxo on September 17, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Is it me or do all Dem women look like they are constipated?
I never see one with a smile on their face, just bitterness. As opposed to GOP/moderate women seem to be happy.
bossk92 on September 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Wow. She admires and loves her husband, too.
Blake on September 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Just keep supporting Charlie “The Whale” Rangel and we’ll see how that turns out, Stretch.
JammieWearingFool on September 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM
What a fugly gaggle of sea hags they are. Mark Levin was right: the N.O.W. acronym should be changed to N.O.R.R.U.W. (National Organization of Really, Really Ugly Women)
ManlyRash on September 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Natural Gas: What Pelosi exhales daily.
SouthernGent on September 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Madam Pelosi must be standing in front of the “National Organization for Ugly Women”, as Mark Levin would say.
Hawkins1701 on September 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Botox. Faces too frozen to smile.
Wethal on September 17, 2008 at 8:17 PM
One of the few women that I wouldn’t mind punching in the face.
Vigilante on September 17, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Dang if that video of Pelosi is not a sterotype brought to life. My goodness, every feminist joke ever uttered has been validated.
Theworldisnotenough on September 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM
23% approve of this Congress?
Who did they survey — Congressional family members?
AZCoyote on September 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM
But they’re all white women! Wouldn’t the Democrats say that is racist?
All we need now is for them to smile, with their crazed-clown Botox smile, and twitch (which is trying to blink) and say “Barack! Call me!”
Enoxo on September 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM
from the 2nd video
I don’t agree with Lynn Forester De Rothschild’s notion that the “right” to abortion is in the constitution but I’m glad she’s supporting McCain’s Navy. You go in your big tent girl.
Mojave Mark on September 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM
LoL
Well, as a woman…I hope that does Not represent even a small portion of us.
I mean, really.
bridgetown on September 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I am streaming Hugh Hewitt while I read HotAir, he is playing Sen. Obama’s speech at the Hollywood fund raiser from last night. He can bring his teleprompter to a rodeo ring but couldn’t take it there? You can tell he is totally assured of their love so they won’t mind if he unable to speak. Good grief he is painful to listen to. Sen. McCain should make an ad comparing Sen.Obama’s speech patterns to four more years of President Bush.
Cindy Munford on September 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Forester De Rothschild is clearly not unattractive enough or stupid enough to be in that crowd of harpies with San Fran Nan.
Disturb the Universe on September 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM
“You’re gonna get some grief. You know that?”
“I know. Particularly from the likes of you… the liberal elite. You’re the elite, not me. (laughs).”
That was extremely satisfying.
silverfox on September 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Couldn’t you just feel the optimism in the room….?
(snicker…chortle)
NeoKong on September 17, 2008 at 8:23 PM
None of that is important. What I want to know is whether or not Nancy Pelosi is wearing designer clothing. How much did her shoes cost? That’s what really matters.
aero on September 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Wonderful!
Pelosi and her merry band of Democrat Kool Aid drinkers are supporting Obama. Good lord, this poor country is sick, sick, sick. Maybe it’s time to redistribute the land mass and other resources and let the left go its own way. Surely there’s a fair and equitable way to do this.
rplat on September 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Wow.
Wolfie spent the entire four minutes of that interview trying to put words in the mouth of Lynn De Rothschild.
She’s a classy woman, and she handed Blitzer his hat.
fogw on September 17, 2008 at 8:29 PM
How big a pantload does Wolfie comes off like in that clip?
JammieWearingFool on September 17, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Man, Wolf was practically incredulous there. He took the Obama Pledge (“No vote against the One shall go unchallenged”) and he knew he had to act!
Hannibal Smith on September 17, 2008 at 8:29 PM
25% of 18 million votes is 4.5 million votes. This is sell than the gap in the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Buford Gooch on September 17, 2008 at 8:37 PM
um should these women not be at home taking care of the kids and husbands?
custer on September 17, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Rothchild was a class act in that interview.
Bishop on September 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Pelosi is a riot.
There’s really no need to read any of the polls, the other side is letting us know how desperate they are on a daily basis.
Hilarious.
Dorvillian on September 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Aren’t at least some of us almost wanting to see these hags gain total control, just so they have to STFU over blaming Bush for everything?
OK, I don’t really, but it would be a silver lining to the loss.
leftnomore on September 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM
It is funny how we are feeling anxious because her approval rating “rose” to 23%. What’s next, the inevitable 30% tipping point?
leftnomore on September 17, 2008 at 8:47 PM
The Rothchild interview is nice.
And enough of this redefinition of elitism. It’s not about money, it’s a mind-set.
Spirit of 1776 on September 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Wolf Blitzed is CNN, warts and bias and ignorance and all
put a POS like him next to what my Uncle Jim would have called a “Real Classy Skirt” like Rothchild, and Wolf looks like a creepy pandering partisan hack, determined to score points against her regardless of any semblance of propriety
Wolf is Journalism 2008, in all its glory: dishonest and biased, top to bottom, beginning to end, with no soul or ethics and not even an occasional whiff of intelligence
Janos Hunyadi on September 17, 2008 at 8:49 PM
HAGS on BOTOX
Mercy4Me on September 17, 2008 at 8:50 PM
I really, really hate that witch.
cannonball on September 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM
OMG, this twitt on Billy O is trying to evaluate the look of Sarah
Mercy4Me on September 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM
When you are as ugly as her, I would stay away from trying to say Sarah’s hair is out dated, PLEASE!!!!!
Mercy4Me on September 17, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Glad Nancy is worried about the “Bush Campaign”. I’d be worried too if there was one. Sheesh!
i b squidly on September 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM
OMG, you guys have to see this and get it out
http://ace.mu.nu/
Mercy4Me on September 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Losers are fun to watch, ain’t they?
Coronagold on September 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM
That’s because they are all wearing Boxer Thongs.
m064404 on September 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Lynn Forrester handled wolfie with ease:
Wolf: Are you concerned that the Supreme court justices that he (McCain) would nominate could remove Roe v Wade?
Lynn:No. I’m a graduate of Columbia Law School. A woman’s right to choose is in the Constitution. The Democratic Party puts the choice issue around women’s neck, like a noose; we are the only ones who can protect you. It is protected. We’ve got 8 years of George Bush and choices got nowhere. Stop using that issue to scare people into voting for the Democratic Party. It’s not necessary.
She essentially called Wolfie a Dem mouthpiece and was unchallenged.
Birdseye on September 17, 2008 at 9:08 PM
No German will surrender! We would sooner die before we surrender Berlin to the Allies!!
-Joseph Goebbels
Same concept
Speedwagon82 on September 17, 2008 at 9:12 PM
As a woman, I can assure you Obama is not “the One”. He’s not even the one you settle for when “the One” gets away, as the one a woman settles for at the very least must be able to provide stability and I see nothing stable about this particular one if his shifting positions are any indication.
church on September 17, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Rothschild seems to be a likable lady. With her yukking it up at the end, she revealed her lively, middle-class upbringing. Yes, BO is a lot more elitist than this royal.
jgapinoy on September 17, 2008 at 9:22 PM
I didn’t read all of the comments, but Pelosi saying “the Bush Campaign” WTH! Where is the McCain campaign? Sure, it is probably a “slip of the tongue.” Typical libtards.
Neocon Peg on September 17, 2008 at 9:25 PM
I didn’t read all of the comments, but Pelosi saying “the Bush Campaign” WTH! Where is the McCain campaign? Sure, it is probably a “slip of the tongue.” Typical libtards.
Neocon Peg on September 17, 2008 at 9:25 PM
No, I don’t think it is a slip of the tongue. They so want to be running against Bush instead of McCain, I believe she may have actually deluded herself that they are running against Bush. It may be a possible side effect of BDS.
church on September 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Church, you are right! Let’s see how far this gets them!
Neocon Peg on September 17, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Derangement is too mild a word to describe these people…
Lady Rothschild may be a bit off, but I like her hutzpa and the fact she only allowed herself to be duped once.
javamartini on September 17, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Lynn Forester De Rothschild handled that interview fantastically and new just how to handle the questions. I suppose she learned that from the diplomatic circles she frequents, which is an arena much like politics is and very much like corporate boards rooms (and debate clubs) are not.
No bad vids will be made to hurt McCain from that and I hope she gets in front of the camera more and more often from now until November.
Dusty on September 17, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I thought Palin stole my heart, but I am in love with this Rothschild lady. That comment about how Dems are saying her voice is less worthy because of her standing…beautiful! And calling Wolf an elitist? Orgasmic!!
Jim-Rose on September 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Church, you are right! Let’s see how far this gets them!
Neocon Peg on September 17, 2008 at 9:37 PM
I have a few in-laws that are Libs, even they sigh when they hear the McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, McCAin is a Bush third term. My mother-in-law, a rabid Obama fanatic, is afraid it is back firing and gets really upset when she hears it. Therefore, I say keep on keepin on Nancy and Team Obama. It’s like when you say a word over and over again and eventually it loses all meaning. That’s effectively what they have done with this line of attack. They have made it irrelevent if not just simply irritating.
church on September 17, 2008 at 9:45 PM
thought Palin stole my heart, but I am in love with this Rothschild lady. That comment about how Dems are saying her voice is less worthy because of her standing…beautiful! And calling Wolf an elitist? Orgasmic!!
Jim-Rose on September 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Not that I’m not happy she has come over to our side and could possibly persuade other dems to vote McCain, but don’t let her steal your heart. Believe me she would be all up in our faces with the sexism, racism and all the other liberal isms if her candidate had won the nomination. She hasn’t changed her beliefs she is simply a pizzed off liberal and a pizzed off liberal will bite their own nose off to spite their face.
church on September 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I liked Lady Rothschild, she seems rather classy yet easy to talk to. I think I’ll wait till after the election to correct her error on what is and is not in the constitution ;)
aikidoka on September 17, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Wow!!
I wasn’t going to watch but glad I did!!
Sharp lady…I like what she said!!
P.S. I’m talking about Lynn not Pelosi!!!!!!
120pages on September 17, 2008 at 10:07 PM
i love congress, they are so smart
foxone on September 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Can I make a scary prediction:
If McCain gets elected and the time comes to appoint a Supreme Court Justice all hell is gonna break loose. He’s either gonna tick off the social cons or tick of women like the one interviewed. It ain’t gonna be pretty.
terryannonline on September 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Rothschild is on Greta right now.
church on September 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM
If McCain gets elected and the time comes to appoint a Supreme Court Justice all hell is gonna break loose. He’s either gonna tick off the social cons or tick of women like the one interviewed. It ain’t gonna be pretty.
terryannonline on September 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Yes it is scary, but I’m gonna let that dog sleep until after he has secured the election. One thing at time.
church on September 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I hate to say this but I guess I would prefer this woman to vote for Obama because if she votes for McCain, she and women like her will say that McCain owes them one it comes time to choose a Justice. All the work social conservatives have done and are we are so close to tipping the Court and I don’t want McCain to mess it up because he feels he owes a certain group something.
terryannonline on September 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I thought Lynn was wonderful! She put that twit in his place. For years I remained a Democrat. But voted Republican. Being in my fifties, I changed my party to Rep. Democrat women basically are butt a** ugly. Inside and out. They disgust me to know end. Glad I woke up and finally bailed completely. I love my Country and sure as hell don’t want Obama, to win. That would devastate our Country. Which he wants. McCain and Palin all the way!
sheebe on September 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM
hate to say this but I guess I would prefer this woman to vote for Obama because if she votes for McCain, she and women like her will say that McCain owes them one it comes time to choose a Justice. All the work social conservatives have done and are we are so close to tipping the Court and I don’t want McCain to mess it up because he feels he owes a certain group something.
terryannonline on September 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I see where you are coming from. But McCAin has never seemed the type to feel he is beholden to anyone, and he has to, (I’m hoping), have enough sense to know that he will lose his base if he intends to run for a second term. But then again, he doesn’t show any signs of letting go of his Amnesty aspirations. So maybe you are right. But one thing we know for sure is if Obama gets in we are definitely going to get a liberal activist judge in the mold of Ginsberg. At least with McCain we have a shot at a conservative strict constructionist on the court.
church on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I’m not sure that I got that sense from her interview. I took it as she was perfectly comfortable with the right to choose going back to the states? I’m not sure though.
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I wonder some times how much McCain’s experience in Viet Nam shaped him. Wasn’t he able to return to Viet Nam make peace with it? Maybe he really believes that we can work this out so that everyone can be happy, live together and be productive. He is an enigma wrapped in a riddle sometimes.
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
AP, why do you make us watch that Madame Speaker person? Can’t you just tell us what she said? ;-) Now you have us watching that other twit from Congress. Next you’ll have us watching Pelosi’s daughter. Can’t you run some TMC clips of Barbara Stanwyck or something to help us cleanse our pallet? Now I’m gonna have to go over to Dirty Harry’s Place and freshen up!
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I wonder some times how much McCain’s experience in Viet Nam shaped him. Wasn’t he able to return to Viet Nam make peace with it? Maybe he really believes that we can work this out so that everyone can be happy, live together and be productive. He is an enigma wrapped in a riddle sometimes.
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I’ve had that thought too. If that is what he is thinking, it is very niave. This isn’t like a war on foreign soil. This is a invasion of the United States by uneducated, unkilled labor that will, if unchecked, totally change the demographics of the country which in turn will alter the fabric of our nation. You know what they say about the road to hell.
church on September 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM
That lady who was a Hillary supporter and is now supposedly voting for McCain says Obama was talking about “rednecks” when he made that bitter, clingy charge.
Not kidding!
SouthernGent on September 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM
No, I don’t think so. She said abortion rights was in our Constitution. If you believe something is inherent in our Constitution I don’t believe you agree to let the states decide whether you are given your Constitutional rights.
terryannonline on September 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Good point. (Let’s keep an eye on her…)
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM
That lady who was a Hillary supporter and is now supposedly voting for McCain says Obama was talking about “rednecks” when he made that bitter, clingy charge.
Not kidding!
SouthernGent on September 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM
What do you expect from someone who hasn’t been off the elitist mountaintop in probably 30 yrs. I said it before and I will say it again. She is simply a pizzed off lib who would be hurling invectives as well as all the cliched isms, racism, sexism at us constantly if her candidate had won the nomination. She is just a typical angry lib who feels this is the best way to lash out and humiliate Obama for preventing her Queens ascension to the throne. I wouldn’t be suprised if HIllary hadn’t cooked this little media blitz up with her.
church on September 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM
She is simply acting in Hilldog’s behalf. Barry must be defeated for her to run in ’12.
Have to wait 4 yrs to find out what the quid pro quo will be.
TheCulturalist on September 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Is there any way we could help Mexico educate their own citizens so that they could become productive in their own country and perhaps skip the “industrial revolution” they would have to go through to prosper. Didn’t Ireland do that? I’m just flapping the ol’ gums here.
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Husbands??
OldEnglish on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Is there any way we could help Mexico educate their own citizens so that they could become productive in their own country and perhaps skip the “industrial revolution” they would have to go through to prosper. Didn’t Ireland do that? I’m just flapping the ol’ gums here.
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Not as long as we keep tolerating the influx of illegals. So long as Mexico continues to receive the remittances from the US as well as all the aide we send them, they have no incentive to change their current standard operating procedure.
church on September 17, 2008 at 11:08 PM
yup
TheCulturalist on September 17, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Thanks for the lesson. I’m here to learn. So I guess it’s a matter of why should the country’s leaders be motivated when they get their money for nothin’ (and the chicks for free). Looks like there’s no way of gettin’ around it. First step: close the borders.
Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Boys let this be a lesson for you.
Want babes, become a conservative.
Want nags that make you wish you were blind, become a liberal.
Bubba Redneck on September 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
We need to start by wiping out decades of socialism.
Bubba Redneck on September 17, 2008 at 11:23 PM
What a group! Double, double, toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
CC
CapedConservative on September 17, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Pelosi is an absolute disaster.
Metro on September 17, 2008 at 11:35 PM
My Aunt, bless her, is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat. She keeps calling me for advice on what to do to get McCain elected because she despises Obama, as she knows I do GOP calling, etc. It’s an odd cycle this year I tell ya!
SkinnerVic on September 17, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Me likey some Lynn de Rothschild.
fossten on September 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I think that you are right, Allah. PUMAs’ beef with Obama goes beyond his Y chromosome. There’s been a split long a-coming between the center left and the far left. Obama is yet another example among many of the Democrats falling in love instead of choosing a winner. Also the Democrats have been quite heavy-handed in their dealings with well-intentioned, friendly criticism from long-time loyal Democrats.
One of the biggest reasons for McCain winning the nomination in states with a lot of Democrats crossing over in the primaries? These Democrats had serious misgivings about their choices of candidate this year, and McCain is the one Republican running whom many Democrats feel they can vote for in good conscience.
Sekhmet on September 17, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Madame Defarge, er….Pelosi doesn’t have anything to say that I want to hear….unless it’s her resignation.
GarandFan on September 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I have long told people I’m a John Kennedy Democrat… you know… the guy that cut taxes, went eyeball to eyeball with the Soviet Union WITHOUT checking with the UN and who’s view about the welfare state was “Ask not what your country can do for you……”
CC
CapedConservative on September 18, 2008 at 12:04 AM
San Fran Nan has to do all she and her intolerably ugly friends can to get Obama elected. After she threw Shrillary under the bus, she was all in with The One. If he doesn’t win she is up ship creek with Hildabeast planning a come back in 2012. That and the drilling corner she had been backed into are going to take their toll on her plastic surgery. Damn, that woman is offensive.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on September 18, 2008 at 12:09 AM
SkinnerVic on September 17, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Thank you so much. I am very worried for our Country. Only reason I didn’t change party is I am me. I am not a Liberal. Very conservative minded. Feels good being on the normal side now. :)
sheebe on September 18, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Lady Lynn Forester De Rothschild, on Greta, explained how dangerous it w/b for this country to hand it over to Obama, under Pelosi/Reid.
This lady gave W. Blitzer the most elegant shelacking I’ve ever seen. She will be an incredible asset to the McCain/Palin ticket, and she said on Greta that she told her family that she’d campaign until the hour of voting.
Entelechy on September 18, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Lesbian Liberals and Reconquista heinas. What a crowd of losers! But, that’s who’s taken over the Democratic Party folks.
DfDeportation on September 18, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Ugh. That’s the Democratic party folks. Makes me sick. What happened to FDR and JFK?
lodge on September 18, 2008 at 4:31 AM
Obligatory video.
Cuffy Meigs on September 18, 2008 at 6:48 AM
I wouldnt hesitate.
Viper1 on September 18, 2008 at 7:14 AM
Could someone please alert me to when one of these wumen critters will be on my road so I can take a detour?
And, how come Hillary isn’t the one speaking instead of Madam Speaker?
Captain America on September 18, 2008 at 7:23 AM
WTF?
I rarely see comments like this on HotAir.
They’re what most DU’bies / KosKeshes / Huff’ers assume about “the right-wing blogs”, but it’s not the case. Nice try, “vigilante”.
RD on September 18, 2008 at 8:04 AM
SERIOUSLY, is there anyone more despicable than Pelosi?
marklmail on September 18, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Every time I see Pelosi I wonder why it is that she is where she is when there are probably thousand of women more qualified to be there. Ugh.
scalleywag on September 18, 2008 at 9:42 AM
This looked more like a hostage tape. What you can’t see is Harry Reid off screen with a sword ready to cut their precious Sharpei’s head off…clap now or the dog gets it.
PatriotPete on September 18, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Pelosi and her hoodwinked followers in this video have come to be because conservatives stayed home and did not vote in the 2006 elections. Please, let’s not make the same mistake again in 2008. What a nightmare it’s been.
Travis1 on September 18, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Yes, I’m not getting the hostility toward her here. Oh, well.
Allah, what the polls say and what my limited experience with Dems — male and female — who are appalled with Obama is that Palin makes it easier to hold their nose and vote for McCain — not because of the femininity, but because she’s somewhat human, so maybe, therefore, McCain is.
Nichevo on September 18, 2008 at 10:45 AM
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