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The obligatory “Palin’s e-mail account hacked” post; Update: McCain camp responds

posted at 4:21 pm on September 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Not a hoax, apparently, but also not obviously the work of political partisans. Sounds like trolls out for a thrill.

Another screenshot shows Palin’s inbox and a third shows the text of an e-mail from Amy McCorkell, whom Palin appointed to the Governor’s Advisory Board on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse in 2007.

The e-mail, a message of support to Palin, tells her not to let negative press get to her and asks Palin to pray for McCorkell, who writes that “I need strength to 1. keep employment, 2. not have to choose.”

The Republican Party hasn’t responded to a call for comment, but McCorkell, reached at her office, confirmed that she did send the e-mail to Palin.

I’m refraining from looking at the screencaps on the assumption that (a) if there’s anything foul in there it’ll be all over the wires soon anyway, and (b) if there isn’t then there’s no need to pry. Politico expects the political fallout, such as it is, will only help her, but see the comments at Time for the developing counterspin: How can we trust our national security to a woman who can’t come up with a password that zzzzzzzzz.

Update: I don’t know if Google, AOL, etc., track the number of times each day their users change their passwords, but if so we’re probably in store for a new record.

Update: Outrage from Maverick’s campaign manager, Rick Davis:

“This is a shocking invasion of the Governor’s privacy and a violation of law. The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these emails will destroy them. We will have no further comment.”

Update (Ed): The group taking responsibility certainly has a history of partisan attacks, as Caleb Howe notes in his post.  He has a picture and a video that he took of their protest at the Republican convention, although Howe also wonders exactly why they were there:

As an aside, this is why I tend to stay away from web-based e-mail.


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Gawker is attacking Michelle Malkin over the hacked Gov. Sarah Palin’s email account. I can’t wait to see the Secret Service or the FBI get a hold of Nick Denton. Posting someone’s emails and phone numbers on a website when you know it was attained illegally is a federal crime!

ZoneDaiatlas on September 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM

The Dems illegally intercepted & recorded Newt’s cell phone call several years ago, & the NY Slimes illegally printed excerpts of the conversation. Did any of these perps suffer any consequences? Of course not. Which is why I think the creeps who violated Sarah’s privacy will get away with it.

jgapinoy on September 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM

lol.. 4chan are not partisan hacks. They’re kids who invented pretty much every internet meme you’ve ever used ever.

Ah, so they’re the ones behind “Jesus was a community organizer.”

Jim Treacher on September 17, 2008 at 9:19 PM

It was some kid on 4chan. He hacked it and posted the password on /b/ this morning.

manfriend on September 17, 2008 at 9:40 PM

The original hacker may not get tracked down but anyone and everyone who took a peak afterwards, iow, the numbskull lefties looking for dirt, left calling cards the size of highway billboard for the FBI to come calling.

Dusty on September 17, 2008 at 9:52 PM

I too have been praying for Sarah Palin… This really breaks my heart…. I feel so bad that a decent woman has endured this ugliness for over two weeks because she accepted an invitation to serve this country. I hate the left and I almost hate Obama and his surrogates…I just donated another $100 dollars to McCain\Palin I just wish there was something else to do to help Sarah Palin and her family…

CCRWM on September 17, 2008 at 10:00 PM

This is an “electronic break-in”………. eMailGate

scruplesrx on September 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM

I just watched Greta on Fox news and they are showing some of the emails and giving a few details about some of the emails. Some panel of lawyers were on discussing this,, the female lawyer was demanding to know whether Sarah was using private emails for government work! Ridicules!
Some hacker breaks the law and steals her personal property and some lawyer is out there demanding to know whether the victim violated any laws!!!
So,, let me see, I am wondering if that same lib female lawyer that was on Greta would condone someone hacking into Obama’s private email account to make sure he hasn’t been breaking any laws!

JellyToast on September 17, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Her privacy has been invaded consistently for the last 3 weeks. It’s invasive and gross. Makes me despise the left even more for their double standards…do as I say not as I do attitude. Obama talks about reaching out to “his brothers” but what has he done to reach out to HIS OWN BROTHER in Kenya? nothing. nada. A mere $25/month would increase his living standards doublefold. Never mind the school named in his honour that has received nothing. You wanna talk about lipstick on a pig?? obama is the lipstick.

kellyjane on September 17, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Well, hacking Sarah’s PC certainly takes their “FISA and the Patriot Act are a violation of our privacy and (terrorist-lovin’) civil rights!” bitchfest off the table.

Back to the drawing board LibRats. And don’t forget your crayons.

Teddy on September 17, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Stealing email account passwords, so cash!

Typhonsentra on September 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Well, folks yours truly made a note of this incident on my tipline along w/ some relevant tips on security and open government. Frankly, Gov’r Palin has some but not much right to be outraged.

This watchdog also finds this group “Anonymous” not so cool.

HotAirJosef on September 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Ed, I wouldn’t feel so comfy with non web-based email either. Same password problems.

faraway on September 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM

So, Obama’s dirty tricks squad engineered a break-in.

Who does this remind you of?

faraway on September 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM

If this was an inside job by BO’s camp, it would make Watergate look like shoplifting a twinkie.

thirteen28 on September 17, 2008 at 4:47 PM

That’s assuming it isn’t given a total media blackout. Seriously, if this WAS another one of that carpet-headed goon’s dirty tricks, we’ll never hear about it unless he confesses (ha) or a veritable metric ton of evidence is leaked to the Internet.

Dark-Star on September 17, 2008 at 11:15 PM

lol.. 4chan are not partisan hacks. They’re kids who invented pretty much every internet meme you’ve ever used ever.
Ah, so they’re the ones behind “Jesus was a community organizer.”

Jim Treacher on September 17, 2008 at 9:19 PM

I think you give them too much credit… from what it sounds like, they were more like what we used to call “script kitties”. They think it’s “cool” to use their own form of Internet ebonics. Maybe one in one thousand has any true skill and the others just tag along.

CC

CapedConservative on September 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM

The AP –

The Secret Service contacted The Associated Press on Wednesday and asked for copies of the leaked e-mails, which circulated widely on the Internet. The AP did not comply.

Drudge has the link to this story up, where the unbiased AP brags they refused to help the Secret Service.

Kevin71 on September 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Kevin71 on September 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Isn’t that just friggin’ special? Ugh. It reminds me when the Seattle Times wouldn’t help the FBI identify two middle eastern males who were taking pictures of equipment on the ferry system.

I am losing every bit of patience I had left for liberals.

capitalist piglet on September 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM

JustinCase –

but when has a man politician ever had to prove he was his children’s father?

Most of the time, the male politician tries to prove that he ISN’T the father! Silky pony, for example.

Kevin71 on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Gov. Palin’s 17 year old daughter’s cell phone number was in one of the posted emails and her phone was called. (per O’Reilly)

scruplesrx on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM

JustinCase -

but when has a man politician ever had to prove he was his children’s father?
Most of the time, the male politician tries to prove that he ISN’T the father! Silky pony, for example.

Kevin71 on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM

I don’t know… I’d like to see the DNA on Web Hubbel and you know who’s daughter…

CC

CapedConservative on September 17, 2008 at 11:37 PM

WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO START DISCUSSING THIS IN TERMS OF WATERGATE? THIS IS THE MODERN MORAL EQUIVALENT OF WATERGATE. IT WAS AN ELECTRONIC BREAK-IN TARGETED AT A POLITICAL OPPONANT IN ORDER TO DIG UP DIRT OR GAIN INSIDE
INFO FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.

SORRY FOR THE ALL CAPS PEOPLE BUT I’M PRETTY TICKED ABOUT THIS.

I WANT WATERGATE-STYLE HEARINGS ON THIS.

t.ferg on September 17, 2008 at 11:46 PM

t.ferg on September 17, 2008 at 11:46 PM

Look a up a few posts.
This is an “electronic break-in”………. eMailGate

scruplesrx on September 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM

eMailGate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scruplesrx on September 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM

t.ferg see 10:48

faraway on September 18, 2008 at 12:01 AM

According to The Register, it appears the person may have been in Chicago

ConservativePartyNow on September 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM

The Secret Service contacted The Associated Press on Wednesday and asked for copies of the leaked e-mails, which circulated widely on the Internet. The AP did not comply.

What happened to the freedom of information?? I think there is someone that the AP is either covering for or its a nefarious source

ConservativePartyNow on September 18, 2008 at 12:44 AM

Any way I can get the address of the punk who hacked in?

I wanna toilet paper their house. :)

Sapwolf on September 18, 2008 at 1:14 AM

Yes, this is the electronic version of the Watergate breakin.

Sapwolf on September 18, 2008 at 1:15 AM

rubico10

David Kernell
rubico10@yahoo.com
20
Memphis, TN
amateur chess player
son of democratic TN 93rd district rep. Mike Kernell

perhaps?

akgoldrush on September 18, 2008 at 1:27 AM

Pay attention. The strength of Sarah Palin’s password had nothing to do with anything. They used the Yahoo password reset function, which did not require knowing her actual password, just other personal information.

Her life has been so publicized that the lowlife — he really doesn’t deserve the “hacker” label for something this simple — was able to reset her password.

So if you really want to learn from the experience, be careful about trusting your email to a site that allows you to reset the password by guessing the answers to fairly obvious questions.

theregoestheneighborhood on September 18, 2008 at 1:29 AM

YYZ on September 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM
As in Rush YYZ?
Cool name.

carbon_footprint on September 17, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Airport code for Toronto. Not as cool as you think.

TBinSTL on September 18, 2008 at 1:31 AM

This is the sort of thing that now gets a wink and a nod… For too long people have been ok with leaks, etc. Then in the last several years the “idea” that ‘information wants to be free’ has justified many abuses.

As an aside, I’ve always thought the ‘information wants to be free’ thing to be silly. My information “wants” to be secure. Oh, and my information “wants” to win Powerball tonight.

darkpixel on September 18, 2008 at 5:24 AM

For some odd reason, this incident has crystalized why I like the Cuda: She and her family are the read deal. Not perfect, but real. She has a political career, true. But that is not where she gains She has her ideology apart from it. She can sacrifice and work for political success for the Cause without being overly concerned if a particular operation fails. If she wins, she goes to DC and kicks butt. If she loses, she just goes back to AK and finishes her job as governor. Then she can go to work in the fishing company or just live off mooseburgers. She is convicted in her ideology enough that a defeat in promoting it does not question her belief in it. She gains her strength from another, non-political Source.

I have some policy and ideological differences with the Cuda, and would hope she would do some reexamining in those regards. But on this score, I believe I’m the one who needs to learn. If nothing else, GOV Palin has given true, viable “hope” to millions of us. Allahpundit can discourage us from hope for success this election, but not that higher and deeper hope.

Thank you, Governor Palin.

Tommygun on September 18, 2008 at 8:23 AM

One thing about that group Anonymous – they have pretty crappy taste in music. WTF?

gxpgxp on September 18, 2008 at 8:24 AM

so from what they know so far the original poster was Rubico10
from his blogspot his name is David Kernell. Could be true might not be considering some people use aliases.
http://apocalypticvisions.blogspot.com/

The youtube account to this guy has been closed the last login was back on the 12th of september. They all share the name Rubico10. Probably not coincidence.

theguardianii on September 18, 2008 at 8:25 AM

ARGH!!!

IT’S NOT A HACK PEOPLE!

“Hacking” = Exploiting technical weaknesses in a computer or electronic system to gain access, OR finding inventive ways to use a physical, electronic or virtual system to do something or create something unintended by the original inventors of the system.

THIS is “password guessing”. NOT hacking.

As a Geek, I find the amazing lack of knowledge about what hacking is and is not to be incredibly frustrating. This kid is NOT a “hacker.” He was barely a Script Kiddie. (a Script Kiddie is a punk who takes hacking and security tools invented by REAL hackers, and uses them to perpetrate mischief.)

Most REAL Hackers are actually nice guys. They aren’t crooks and bad actors. The majority of them are simply interested in computer, electronic and social systems and the security (or INsecurity) inherent in them. The VAST majority of them have great concerns over the extreme LACK of security of many of our modern systems of communication and business, and the ease with which one can break in and steal from those systems. These types are often referred to as “White Hat” Hackers. These hackers will attempt to contact and work with those whom they find with critical security flaws in their systems, in an attempt to try and help them improve.

Unfortunately, many ignorant business and governmental types have attacked the White Hat Hackers responsible for discovering the security flaws. This has resulted in the second class of hackers, known as the Grey Hats.

These guys have the same concerns as the White hats, but having been burned by ignorance, are content to simply discover a problem, and then anonymously release it to the world, consequences be damned.

Ironically, while this does result in SOME loss to innocent parties, it tends to get the problem fixed faster. Thus perpetrating and extending the Grey Hat phenomena. Many Grey Hats also hack for notoriety as well, irrespective of whether they assist in fixing a problem or not.

Lastly, there is the smallest group, the “Black Hats”. (Incidentally, NO direct connection with the “Black hat conference” held each year for hackers.) The Black Hats are, simply put, criminals. They hack systems for fun and profit. But mostly Profit. Most of them work for foreign interests, of which a large contingent is the Russian Mafia. These guys are the ones responsible for the major financial and trading institute break-ins you hear about on the news. They are small, but organized , and hooked in with some of the largest criminal organizations in the world. These are the guys the White Hats are trying to help protect against.

Ok, that’s a general overview and description of what hackers are and are not. It’s not a perfect description, and a tad simplistic, but it’s enough to give you a functional understanding of the hacker community.

The punk that gained access to Sarah Palin’s yahoo account was absolutely NOT a hacker. Password guessing is a trivial task if you just spend some time thinking about and gathering readily available public info on the person’s who’s email you want access to. MOST people use crappy, easy to guess passwords. Sarah Palin is apparently no different in that respect than almost any other non-technical person.

In regards to Anonymous, Michelle has a GREAT description of who they are. It’s not a hacker group people, it’s a nebulous, random group of people that hang out on the various *chan boards and IRC channels. Heck, I am a sometime member of Anonymous! (I watched, lent moral support and advice to Anonymous’ crusade against the horrible cult of Scientology. Which, as most things Anonymous does, fizzled.)

So it’s not some mysterious cabal of criminals, it’s just a random bunch of people from the Internet who like to do sometimes clever, sometimes stupid, sometimes cruel things. In this case, ONE of them took it WAY too far, and thankfully, a more responsible member of Anonymous took action and tried to stop it.

I’m sure the bad actor here will be outed by “Mookie” (The guy that runs 4chan. He and the FBI work closely together on cases like these.) and crook will soon be V&. (IE: “Vanned”. Meaning, hauled off to prison in an FBI black van.)

As far as Sarah Palin is concerned, while I’m sure she is upset about it, I’m guessing she will be much more security conscious in the future. Also, since there really was NOTHING bad in her personal e-mail, this ONLY speaks well to her as an Honest and forthright candidate. I suspect this will give her and McCain a bump in the polls.

wearyman on September 18, 2008 at 8:27 AM

Allahpundit, don’t be so quick to say it’s not the work of politicos. News coming out today has traced the hacking to a server in Chicago, where who would believ this coincidence, Obama is from (not to say that this is Obama’s server just that it is in Chicago).
Put this together with the dems prior stealing of Gov Palin’s social security number and other personal information and posting it to their fascist followers and we shall see where these dirty tricks lead to.
Should we start asking the question-
What did the Obamanation know about this hacking and when did he know it?

eaglewingz08 on September 18, 2008 at 9:12 AM

After reading the account of what happened on Michelles site, one thing struck me.
The guy who did was remorse in not finding something to derail Palin’s candidacy.
An interesting statement that could prove to be his downfall. Interfering with any election, let alone a presidential, with the purpose of interrupting it with illegal information can’t be a good thing.
I say this guy is looking at if not jail time, his life is ruined. At least six months of trial, lawyers, and him begging for his life.
His arrogance is going to be reduced to a sniveling little kid crying and begging for mercy.

right2bright on September 18, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Aren’t these the same guys that have been going after Scientology?

@ntif@n on September 18, 2008 at 12:19 PM

eaglewingz, the Chicago thing is a total misunderstanding.

Ctunnel logs its users. That log information is stored on servers in Chicago right now. That information must be located to identify the user’s originating IP

The /b/tard took a screen cap that had a portion of the Ctunnel URL assigned to him and this makes the log information easier to locate.

SarahW on September 18, 2008 at 1:09 PM

The Register provides an explanation of my post at 1:09 pm

“Ramuglia logs each user’s IP address, along with the time and web destination. That often isn’t enough to track down people who access extremely popular websites. But in this case, the perpetrators included a whole string of random-looking characters when posting screenshots of Palin’s hacked account. That will probably be enough for him to pinpoint the proverbial needle in the haystack.

The information at the moment is on a server at a Chicago colocation site owned by FDC Servers. Logs are automatically flushed after seven days, so the clock is ticking for law enforcement, who presumably are under intense pressure to protect the privacy of a candidate for the White House. Of course, there’s always the possibility that Ctunnel.com was only one of multiple anonymization services the email hackers used to cover their tracks, but there’s only one way to find out.”

SarahW on September 18, 2008 at 1:13 PM

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