Rasmussen: McCain edging Obama on economic issues

posted at 10:30 am on September 17, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

The Rasmussen daily tracking poll remains remarkably stable despite the economic turmoil of the last three days — and their internals may explain why.  John McCain retains a one-point lead over Barack Obama, a result that hasn’t changed in three days.  However, McCain has taken an edge on a key issue that explains why the credit crisis hasn’t damaged his standing:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday is unchanged with John McCain attracting 48% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 47% (see recent daily results). Both men are viewed favorably by 55% of the nation’s voters.

McCain leads 58% to 38% among those who regularly shop at Wal-Mart while Obama leads 61% to 36% among those who don’t frequent the retail giant. Overall, Obama leads among those who earn less than $40,000 a year while McCain leads among those with higher earnings. Among white voters, Obama has the edge only among those who earn less than $20,000 a year and his advantage among those lower income white voters is just four percentage points.

Investor confidence has stabilized—at least for the moment–after falling sharply for several days. The economic confidence of those who do not invest was not shaken by the Wall Street events of recent days. As for the political implications, polling conducted last night shows that 49% trust McCain more than Obama on economic issues while 45% trust Obama.

That shift is startling, and shows the effectiveness of McCain’s campaign at defining Obama as a tax-and-spend liberal.  Only voters aged 18-29 trust Obama outside the margin of error, although voters in their 40s give Obama a one-point edge.  All other age demographics clearly trust McCain over Obama on economic issues, while McCain overwhelmingly tops Obama on national security, the other question asked in the survey.  Interestingly, college graduates and non-completes trust McCain more than Obama too, by double-digit margins.  Only high-school graduates and those with higher masters and doctorates trust Obama more.

It may be more than that, and the crisis may continue crystallizing a leadership gap between the two men.  This arose during the Russo-Georgian war in the Caucasus, when Obama stumbled through a series of responses while McCain looked informed and resolute.  When the nation faces a crisis, it looks for tested leadership.  Americans might be tempted to take a chance on a newcomer if they see little risk on the horizon, but someone with no leadership experience beyond running his own campaign may scare off people who see turbulence ahead.

Obama will lose this election if this trend continues.  McCain’s ad today takes exactly the right tone in light of this movement.  He has to demonstrate calm, experience, and determination while assuring people that America can solve this problem.  Obama will almost certainly take the opposite tone, painting this as a meltdown of Great Depression proportions and making himself look hysterical in the process.  While that will feed Obama’s argument for radical change, it will not make him more credible — and he will continue to lose his edge on what had been his greatest policy strength until now.

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I thought Obama was crushing McCain on this? How many points has Obama lost?

TheHat on September 17, 2008 at 10:32 AM

if the younger generations don’t come around, we are screwed going fwd. especially with demographic trends.

troubling enough that a guy like Obama can poll this high period, much less win

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM

It may be more than that, and the crisis may continue crystallizing a leadership gap between the two men.

Leadership gap? It’s a frickin’ canyon, Ed!!!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 17, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Dude!

Yakko77 on September 17, 2008 at 10:34 AM

I hope he’s right for once, but Dick Morris has stated that these Financial Crisis issues will benefit McCain, not Obama. b/c the public will go with someone they know and trust instead of a proven unknown and inexperienced candidate like Obama….crossing fingers.

if media wasn’t in the tank, and highlighted the Fannie/Freddie connection it probably would sink him. Imagine a Charlie Gibson type interview directed toward Obama on that one

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM

The “empty suit” is simply being validated. Obama has an extremely shallow intellect and his verbose oratories are without substance and are beginning to bore the populace.

rplat on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

McCain is still getting creamed when it comes to who is better at dealing with health care…

“There’s still a big gap on “handling the health care issue,” although Obama led 61% to 24% in May, and now it’s 52% to 34%.”
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDNlNjU2Mzk5ZWIwNDk4MjljMmI4MzY5NDRjODY2OWE=

If doesn’t do something about that he’s going to lose… email me mccain peoples I’ve got ideas… yarrrr@mail.com

ninjapirate on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Maybe thats because there is no complexity to Obama’s economic plan. It’s simply TAX TAX TAX lets get the rich bastards. What a joke this dude and the democratic party is.
Their entire social and economic policy is based on envy.

titus_pullo on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

ninjapirate on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

you really think mccain is going to email you? delusional.

right4life on September 17, 2008 at 10:38 AM

I hope he’s right for once, but Dick Morris has stated that these Financial Crisis issues will benefit McCain, not Obama. b/c the public will go with someone they know and trust instead of a proven unknown and inexperienced candidate like Obama….crossing fingers.

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Obama leads among those who earn less than $40,000

In other words, people that don’t pay taxes vote for Obama. Unadulterated class warfare, and here is where we’re going (I know its a bit overused, but nonetheless accurate):

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.

–Lord Alexander Tytler

lionheart on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Their entire social and economic policy is based on envy.

titus_pullo on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Perhaps . . . but mostly on Marxist doctrine.

rplat on September 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Their entire social and economic policy is based on envy.

titus_pullo on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

and violates many of the 10 commandments.

the 6th commandment (abortion)
the 7th commandment (protection of marriage)
8th commandment (economic freedom
10th commandment (tax policy and wealth redistribution)

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM

…and those with higher masters and doctorates trust Obama more.

What Democratic strategist was it who said “We can’t win with eggheads and African-Americans?”

Kafir on September 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM

This will be a major topic in the debates and by then Barry will have settled on a position that appears reasonable to many as opposed to his hysterical shrieking the last few days. I wouldn’t get too confident on this issue yet, particularly if more shoes drop.

a capella on September 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Someone stated that if the economic problems were minimal, then they expect Obama to take that issue…however, if it turns to dire, or has the appearance, the people won’t trust someone unproven to lead them.
I tend to think that is correct, the populace rely on proven leaders to lead them out of trouble…then revert back to what they “want” when things settle down.
Example? Churchill, chosen and revered during the war, war is over, peace, they cast him aside and vote in some “nice” guy.

right2bright on September 17, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Laura Ingraham is advising McCain to avoid the Chicken Little “economic catastrophe” references that effectively reiterate Obama’s claim rather than make it defunct by hammering hard on LOW TAXES.

maverick muse on September 17, 2008 at 10:43 AM

I’m gonna keep an eye on these figures. Obama has consistently lead on economic issues. If the tide turns because of the crash, well, that’s stunning given the MSM line of blame Bush.

lodge on September 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM

if the younger generations don’t come around, we are screwed going fwd. especially with demographic trends.

troubling enough that a guy like Obama can poll this high period, much less win

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM

You are forgetting Winston Churchill’s statement that someone that isn’t a liberal at 20 has no heart and if they aren’t conservative by 40, they have no brain.

CC

CapedConservative on September 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.

Precisely correct, and if you don’t believe it, just ask Vladimir Lenin . . . figuratively speaking, of course.

rplat on September 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Compared to a guy who can’t run a fiscally sensible campaign, yet touts his management of that campaign as his main executive credential?

a capella on September 17, 2008 at 10:45 AM

right4life on September 17, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Of course not… it would be nice though… there have been McCain advisors quoted as saying this election is paraphrasing “not going to be about issues but about the composite took away” and that “if election is about Obama then McCain can win, no if the election of about McCain”… this is insanity…

ninjapirate on September 17, 2008 at 10:46 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

Likely because McCain has shown better judgment and crisis management skills.

Slublog on September 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Because he has the ability to lead and choose leaders who also lead. Only the weakest of minds think the president should be an “expert” in all areas.
Admitting it is not his strong point, may be his strength…not recognizing your weakness may be your greatest weakness, and make you the most vulnerable.

right2bright on September 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM

if the younger generations don’t come around, we are screwed going fwd. especially with demographic trends.

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM

“If you’re not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.”

—Winston Chruchill—

Let’s pray for brains.

mwdiver on September 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM

maverick muse on September 17, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Yeah, that over the edge populist shrieking doesn’t benefit the main message.

a capella on September 17, 2008 at 10:48 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

On one hand we have someone who admits he needs to learn.

On the other hand we have someone who convinced he already knows everything.

MarkTheGreat on September 17, 2008 at 10:51 AM

if Obama wins, how many seats do the GOP pick up on 2010? 40? 50? 60?

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM

You are forgetting Winston Churchill’s statement that someone that isn’t a liberal at 20 has no heart and if they aren’t conservative by 40, they have no brain.

CC

CapedConservative on September 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM

Since I’ve been a life long conservative, I’m heartless?!? Ok, I can live with that…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Their entire social and economic policy is based on envy.

titus_pullo on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Perhaps . . . but mostly on Marxist doctrine.

rplat on September 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM

There’s a difference?

MarkTheGreat on September 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Go astroturf somewhere else, like on your own blog where you state “I am indeed biased towards Senator Obama”.

Bishop on September 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot, that “Gosh Darned Smart” Lightbringer is an expert on everything. Except for those people who he didn’t really know, and those things he keeps waffling on.

McCain, is at least willing to admit he doesn’t have all the answers. Which means he will be looking for someone (or a group of someones) really smart on the economy to give him advice, and who knows… he might actually listen since he doesn’t already know it all.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM

It’s one thing to say “economy” and wait for applause, and another thing to keep hammering what you will do to actually make a difference. McCain chose wisely with Palin and the MSM is actually exposing what she has done right in Alsaka as a model as a means to attack her, yet it backfires.

The Lord works in mysterious ways….

Hening on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM

McCain leads 58% to 38% among those who regularly shop at Wal-Mart while Obama leads 61% to 36% among those who don’t frequent the retail giant. Overall, Obama leads among those who earn less than $40,000 a year while McCain leads among those with higher earnings.

Does that even make sense?

Beo on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM

if Obama wins, how many seats do the GOP pick up on 2010? 40? 50? 60?

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Very few, because the Dem Congress from 2008-2010 will push through as many voter fraud-enablng laws as they can. They’ll pass a federal law banning state ID laws as far as federal elections go.

They’ll push through the card-check bill for unions to fill up the unions dues accounts for election activity. They’ll push through amnesty, and fast track citizenship (and tell all the new citizens they owe it all to the Dems). Once done, the Dems will have the demographic edge to keep majority control of Congress for decades.

Wethal on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM

The debates should be interesting. We conservatives were wetting our pants at the thought of an old McCain versus a dynamic Obama in a debate. Now we are looking forward to the “uh factory” that is Obama trying to explain his many shifts in policy. How the times change!

I hope McCain highlights Obama’s many negative statements about Iraq.

Theworldisnotenough on September 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM

I’m confused, over at MESS-NBC, they say the “worm has turned,” Obama is gaining on McCain and they expect this trend to continue. And they say no one is talking abot Palin any more except Troopergate. What gives, guys?

/sarc

Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 10:59 AM

When a crisis like this bank situation or Russian sabre-rattling, Americans don’t need some waffling type to tell them that things things suck, we know they suck, we want to hear and see calm determination. Obabmo doesn’t have that, he presents as excitable and naive.

Bishop on September 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Beo on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Yes, it makes sense. Wealthy people are wealthy because they don’t overpay for commodities. Walmart has great prices.

lionheart on September 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Polling Magic.

McCain leads 58% to 38% among those who regularly shop at Wal-Mart while Obama leads 61% to 36% among those who don’t frequent the retail giant. Overall, Obama leads among those who earn less than $40,000 a year while McCain leads among those with higher earnings.

WTF?

McCain gets the rich peope who shop at WalMart.
Obama gets the poor folks who shop at Tiffany’s.

Better run that poll again.

fogw on September 17, 2008 at 11:02 AM

When a crisis like this bank situation or Russian sabre-rattling, Americans don’t need some waffling type to tell them that things things suck, we know they suck, we want to hear and see calm determination. Obabmo doesn’t have that, he presents as excitable and naive.

Bishop on September 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM

How true. The Dems have come a long way from the day a Dem told a frightened country after Pearl Harbor, “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

Wethal on September 17, 2008 at 11:02 AM

I’m confused, over at MESS-NBC, they say the “worm has turned,” Obama is gaining on McCain and they expect this trend to continue. And they say no one is talking abot Palin any more except Troopergate. What gives, guys?

Heh. Rarely do we get a chance to see the narrative-writing in progress.

Slublog on September 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Probably because McCain is smart enough to know where his weaknesses lay and will surround himself with people who do have the economy as their strong point. He will do what it takes to make the economy stronger, even if it goes against his party line. Obama, I don’t believe, will deviate from his party line regardless of what this country actually needs.

I doubt many presidents have been very strong on economic knowledge before taking office, I guess McCain’s ‘mistake’ is in admitting it.

The average American knows very little about the true complexities of the American economy, let alone the world economy. (Myself included in that)

covel on September 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM

I can’t remember where I heard this but here goes:

To illustrate the difference between the two party philosophies someone said “When a republican sees a successful person their general thoughts are how can me or my kids become a success like this individual. However, when a democrat sees a successful person they think to themselves how can I bring this person down to my level”

You understand this and you can understand the Democratic party. This is the basis of how they think and act. Thats the root cause of their hate, and I do mean hate, of the USA. They are actually saying “How dare you be be such a prosperous and successful country”. Its envy and self loathing wrapped in a nice package called democrats. They sicken me

titus_pullo on September 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Does that even make sense? – Beo on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Spend less and keep more $.

Wal*Mart…always the lowest prices. Always.

ManlyRash on September 17, 2008 at 11:04 AM

hopefully, Obama has a ceiling level of support that is around 47% tops

jp on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Where’s Joe?

carbon_footprint on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 AM

The time for disregarding these polls as “a Convention bounce” is past. The longer this momentum goes on, the harder it will be for Obama to reverse it. Obama is now losing the most vital weapon that a politician can have- credibility. October is shaping up to very interesting. Between the William Ayers/Annenberg/Woods Foundation meme and now Obama’s meddling in the Iraq troop withdrawal; this election is shaping up to be the perfect storm that could deal a devastating blow to the Democrat Party. I hope is destroy’s them.

FiveWays on September 17, 2008 at 11:08 AM

I’m confused, over at MESS-NBC, they say the “worm has turned,” Obama is gaining on McCain and they expect this trend to continue. And they say no one is talking abot Palin any more except Troopergate. What gives, guys?

That network is a blatant left wing propaganda machine and everything you read or hear there should be taken with a grain of salt.

rplat on September 17, 2008 at 11:08 AM

The contrast of ads today could not be more compelling. McCain’s is short, direct, to the point, assuringly presidential. Obama’s two minute ramble (on his website, it’s just too long and rambling for TV) is loaded with bad news and more of his typical stump promises. More interesting, as I watched Obama’s tiresome, droney, two minuter, I was distracted by his reading the teleprompter which was placed to his left. It seemed his gaze consistently fell to a phantom person just to my right. They must have hurriedly filmed this ad, not realizing Obama never looks directly at his intended audience. Rookies.

marybel on September 17, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Reminds me of an old Russian tale:

Boris and Ivan are farmers and neighbors during the reign of the Tsars. Both are dirt poor, but one day Ivan inherits a goat from his uncle and is able to make some extra rubles selling the milk.

Boris is beside himself with envy. One day, while plowing his field, he stumbles across an old brass lamp. When he rubs the dirt off of it, a genie appears.

“This is your lucky day, Boris,” said the genie. “I have the power to grant you one wish. Whatever you heart desires – be it gold, diamonds, a whole herd of cattle, a palace for a farmhouse – anthing you want and it shall be yours.”

Without hesitation, Boris responded, “I want that Ivan’s goat should die.”

ManlyRash on September 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Does that even make sense?

Beo on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Yeah, a lot of people who make less than $40,000 a year are hippies and community organizers and 20-somethings in entry level jobs who love Obama. They don’t shop at Wal-Mart. A lot of them are also city dwellers and there aren’t any Wal-Marts in the big cities. Wal-Mart shoppers tend to be middle-class white people living in rural areas and exurbs. Wal-Mart is also the biggest gun seller in the country.

rockmom on September 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Tapper has 0bama’s 2 minute ad on the topic.

p0s3r on September 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Obama has never run a business, he doesn’t understand how the world oil market functions or the role of commodity traders, he thinks you can tax (punish) corporations with no repercussions for their customers. He has no concept of how wealth is created – only how it can be transferred to serve some mindless goals of social engineering.
It should frighten every American that an individual this blatantly ignorant of basic economic principles might be a heartbeat away from the presidency. It’s like putting a 5-year old behind the steering wheel.

whitetop on September 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

If Obama wins on the Tanning Bed platform, it will give him a perfect batting average. He will never have won an election on his own merits, always by smearing, never by ideas.

I’m not too worried though. We’ll impeach the amateur after the first big screw up. And look for it to occur early on.

jeff_from_mpls on September 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM

It should frighten every American that an individual this blatantly ignorant of basic economic principles might be a heartbeat away from the presidency. It’s like putting a 5-year old behind the steering wheel.
whitetop on September 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Economic principles? How about the principles of everything? I wouldn’t trust Obippy to run a one-pump gas station, much less the nation.

Bishop on September 17, 2008 at 11:20 AM

You are forgetting Winston Churchill’s statement that someone that isn’t a liberal at 20 has no heart and if they aren’t conservative by 40, they have no brain.

CC

CapedConservative on September 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM

The saying has been shortened: No matter your age or education, if you’re liberal, you’re an idiot.

Rod on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM

But how can people say that they know/trust someone who ADMITS that the economy is not his strong point?

thePajamaPundit on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM

If you think Obama is too stupid to recognize his weaknesses on the economy, it makes sense to trust McCain more.

Obama has shown ignorant arrogance, with inflexibility and denial.

Q.E.D.

Right_of_Attila on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM

if you’re liberal, you’re an idiot.

Rod on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM

not just an idiot, but in most cases, downright evil.

right4life on September 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM

instead of a proven unknown and inexperienced candidate like Obama

jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM

“Proven Unknown.” I like that.

fossten on September 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM

if you’re liberal, you’re an idiot.

Rod on September 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM

not just an idiot, but in most cases, downright evil.

right4life on September 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM

DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

FiveWays on September 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM

FiveWays on September 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM
right4life on September 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM

I’m reluctant to attribute our opponents’ motives to evil. That is a Manichean tar brush they use on us constantly. I cannot say they are evil but I will hazard this opinion: their leadership is certainly cynical, as they know fully well that the socialism they embrace is unworkable. Obviously what they crave is power and fortune.

The rank and file? Mostly ignorant, breathtakingly stupid and, in a great many instances, psychologically disturbed.

ManlyRash on September 17, 2008 at 12:37 PM

I’m reluctant to attribute our opponents’ motives to evil.

I’m not, obviously. they have no problem with cutting a hole in the back of a babie’s head and sucking out the brains…thats evil. and this is just one example.

the so-called ‘christian’ democrats in the rank and file, rationalize this because they’re more worried about their own self-interest.

I don’t have any other word, other than evil, to describe these people.

right4life on September 17, 2008 at 12:40 PM

I love it when ED posts the “Obama bodysurfing” pic (I prefer to think of it as “Obama floundering“!) because I know it’s bad news for the Change pimp! Sometimes I don’t even bother to read the story; the pic tells me all I need to know!

pseudonominus on September 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Better run that poll again.

fogw on September 17, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Here’s an irony/hypocrisy. The Obama camp, who’s so opposed to shopping at Wal*mart, have staff there to register voters.

Entelechy on September 17, 2008 at 2:44 PM

I hope Ed is right.

Terrye on September 17, 2008 at 5:48 PM