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posted at 10:30 pm on September 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
“Given that Palin’s decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.”
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A Modest Proposal
Dead Hand Control on September 17, 2008 at 10:32 PM
…WHAAAA?
Sarjex on September 17, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Oh my God…I’m not even gonna read that.
surrounded on September 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
It is like a bad movie or something.
Solent Green – Now fortified with More Fetuses
Elizabetty on September 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM
A man after Hitler’s own heart.
ManlyRash on September 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Time to show big sister patting down little brother’s hair with her palm. It is immoral she was so burdened.
Marcus on September 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Heh. Mein Kampf meets Murray Rothbard.
ManlyRash on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM
99/100 percent pure.
(It floats.)
Randy
williars on September 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM
headline redux? there were about 50 comments on this earlier…
TheCulturalist on September 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
…. and now add ‘Abortion consultant’ to this man’s lengthy resume of stellar accomplishments.
Just above being a guest on Bill Maher’s show.
wise_man on September 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
I did look at the pic…that beautiful baby looks a lot like his daddy. Don’t forget, over 80% of Downs Syndrome babies are aborted in this country, but even THAT isn’t good enough for this “person”.
surrounded on September 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
ya sure…”like many”…..tool….
Ozprey on September 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
FTFH.
WHat is next, affirming the morality of ridding society of the negro race? ~Margaret Sanger.
BKennedy on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted
And these people think WE’RE sick!
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 PM
More than likely it’s a financial decision.
kellyjane on September 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Huckabee is right about this sort of thing.
Spirit of 1776 on September 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
LMAO…
Is this guy a moron?
Chakra Hammer on September 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Sounds to me like Nicholas Provenzo has set himself up as the judge of quality of life, and who is deserving and undeserving of the very oxygen we all breathe.
One question, Mr. Provenzo, since you obviously have defective eyes, can we consider you a burden on society, and just kill you now?
john1schn on September 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
You beat me to it, I was looking for the Eugenics link..
Chakra Hammer on September 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
You have to wonder if this guy’s mother wishes she had an abortion. The proverbial once I was born I was all infavor of abortion rights.
DVPTexFla on September 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I betcha if doctors found a gene that determined that your kid would grow up to be a leftist moron, the leftist morons in this country would suddenly become anti-abortion.
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Neuter him! >:D /sarcasm
Chakra Hammer on September 17, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Huh?
Glynn on September 17, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Yeah, i was wondering too…
surrounded on September 17, 2008 at 10:47 PM
I’d bet he’s already been ‘fixed.’
trailboss on September 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Leftism is a destructive lifestyle choice which will never be proven in genetic coding. People who engage in it are not “liberal” or “progressive,” they are “leftists.” They are defined solely by the politics they choose to hold, not the condition of leftism itself.
Leftism is just the act they engage in, not who they are.
BKennedy on September 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
One of the comments to the linked article was that “the poor are a burden to society,” so should we get out our hunting rifles and start the hunt?
Mr. Provenzo, how much do you make every year? I’m just asking….
john1schn on September 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM
It’s a moral decision…going to the store is a financial decision. Everybody knows a special needs child will “cost more” to raise. What people seem not to understand is that those decisions made by other families are simply none of their business.
Ozprey on September 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM
if we could just figure out how to get those words to come out of Obama’s mouth
jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Rand:
http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_intro
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/abortion.html
http://abortionisprolife.com/
MacIntyre:
http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/p-macint.htm
http://ethicscenter.nd.edu/archives/macintyre.shtml
They’re both Aristotelian, Rand believes in objective morality and MacIntyre believes that all moral discourse is emotivist in nature because nobody can agree about the precepts…
ninjapirate on September 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
This guy Provenzo is the modern version of Ebenezer Scrooge or Margaret Sanger.
john1schn on September 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
This reminds me of the pagan worshippers of Biblical times who left those babies with disabilities or who were “different” out in the weather to die. The Christians would go and gather them and take care of them….
CynicalOptimist on September 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Rusty has three children of his own that somehow survived his twisted sense of justice.
Hening on September 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
http://blackgenocide.org/home.html
jp on September 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
What are we to do with the candidate suffering from Uppity Syndrome?
fogw on September 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Even from a pure Capitalist/Objectivist point of view, this doesn’t follow. A disabled child may be a “burden” (financially) to its family, but in a non-welfare state, which is certainly what Mr. Provenzo would advocate, the burden would end there.
Hannibal Smith on September 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Send them back to Chicago
anniekc on September 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Sorry, I thought Rusty was the author of the original article and couldn’t figure how a guy with three kids could be so skewed.
Never mind………you go Rusty.
Hening on September 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Go to hell.
Yea, that’s about all, you moron.
dentalque on September 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
It’s sad to see so much chromosomal damage in one man. I wonder which parts of his brain are still working.
trailboss on September 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Proverbial hammer hitting proverbial nail on the head.
Hog Wild on September 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
fify
TheCulturalist on September 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Rush Limbaugh has made some sort of statement along those lines. Years ago.
wise_man on September 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Why can’t people like this just mind their own business?
Terrye on September 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM
The doctor says to the pregnant woman:
“Your kid will need braces.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will be a nerd.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will be left handed.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will like rap music.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will have red hair.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will be fat.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will be gay.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will like soccer.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will suck at math.”
ABORT!
“Your kid will be …”
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM
You remember when you were a freshman and the varsity basketball players would stop by the playground and spot you and your friends 5 points to make it interesting?
Thus far the Democrats have spotted us the women’s vote and the disabled vote. They must be very confident indeed.
joewm315 on September 17, 2008 at 11:00 PM
If only his mother had his morals.
SouthernGent on September 17, 2008 at 11:00 PM
I should have been aborted…I suck at math.
Oh yeah, I have the nerd thing too.
pugwriter on September 17, 2008 at 11:01 PM
WTF did you fix?
fogw on September 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Not to get too mushy here, but when i first saw this story I looked across the table at my son, who has spina bifida, and felt a rush of emotion that only a parent can understand.
pugwriter on September 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I have a question… suppose a true “gay gene” were found. Suppose parents decided that they wanted to abort the child based on the finding of this gene because they considered it to be unacceptable…much as the arthors sentiments is related to that of Downs…. I wonder if the author would be as enthusiastic to condemn that child to death, or would he consider it a hate crime and force the mother to carry the child to term….
CynicalOptimist on September 17, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Scum.
Red Cloud on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 PM
As one of teh gays, this is why I’m anti-abortion because the day is coming when that gene will be found.
SouthernGent on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 PM
seriously?
gotta watch those “code words”.
oh, wait… Elitist is a code word now too, huh?
damn, i’ll have to fix my own post now.
TheCulturalist on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 PM
There you go, opening THAT can of worms.
DaveC on September 17, 2008 at 11:07 PM
South… do you live near New Orleans?
upinak on September 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM
That’s what Rush was talking about. He said (if I recall correctly) that you’d see the biggest reversal from pro-choice to pro-life in the history of mankind.
wise_man on September 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM
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Mr_Magoo on September 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Looks like someone has been reading too many books by Peter Singer.
VinnyL on September 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Not to get too mushy here, but when i first saw this story I looked across the table at my son, who has spina bifida, and felt a rush of emotion that only a parent can understand. – Pug
And I bet you’d kick the crap outta anybody that tried to say that his life is worth any less than their own because of it. These people think we should abort any phyically sick baby, they’re are freakin’ sick MENTALLY!
My wife has lupus. Do they think she oughta be aborted retroactively too? At what age does the person no longer deserve death for not being perfect? Like John said above, should the author die because he wears glasses? Pol Pot would say yes. What if a kid has asthma? Live or die? Sinus allergies? Live or die? Where do we draw the line?
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Why doesn’t this guy just kill himself so we’re not burdened by his idiocy?
Metro on September 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Anyone know if ALS is a genetic disease? Lou Gerhig’s disease..
and if so,.. would that mean that Stephen Hawking would be on ‘the list’ of undesirables?
DaveC on September 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM
And I bet you’d kick the crap outta anybody that tried to say that his life is worth any less than their own because of it. These people think we should abort any phyically sick baby, they’re are freakin’ sick MENTALLY!
My wife has lupus. Do they think she oughta be aborted retroactively too? At what age does the person no longer deserve death for not being perfect? Like John said above, should the author die because he wears glasses? Pol Pot would say yes. What if a kid has asthma? Live or die? Sinus allergies? Live or die? Where do we draw the line?
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Violence crossed my mind, yes.
pugwriter on September 17, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Palin has brought into the direct sunlight what is really going on in this country and that is the culture war over our children and our future. The birth of Trig is like the Cross to Dracula. Unfortunately our nation has developed a very large culture of death. You have seen it on tv, in the movies, in video games, commercials, books and of course politics with the issue of abortion. We saw a glimpse of this with the Terry Schivo case, but I do not think Americans knew how deep the death culture went or the goals of people like the person that authored this vile article. Sarah Palin and her family are the Left’s worst nightmare.
freeus on September 17, 2008 at 11:14 PM
As Jesus would say “Let he who is without
sin… SOMETHING wrong with him, cast the first stone.”Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:14 PM
I am familiar with spina bifida, used to do some respite care for a little girl who was in my early intevention class.
surrounded on September 17, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Devil’s Advocate on a Slippery slope..
.. and when a person gets Alzheimer’s Disease or dementia to the case where the person thinks he/she is a child again.. who will pay for those costs.. they will only be a burden on society.. wouldn’t it be better to ease their suffering and give them a death with dignity instead?
instead of prolonging the death and misery of said elder person, we can plan his final exit around your schedule..
after Soccer Practice? sounds good..
DaveC on September 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM
God please bless little Trig Palin.
capitalist piglet on September 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Big nose. Live or die?
Red hair. Live or die?
Deaf in one ear, can’t hear out the other. Live or die?
Unable to reproduce. Live or die?
We could do this all night. Like Mr. Magoo said, ‘slippery slope’. Hey wait, Mr. Magoo is BLIND! RETROACTIVE ABORTION!
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Elitist.
maverick muse on September 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Well… it’s like the game of Lifeboat playing God, deciding who will live or die under the guise of “Value claifications”… I always asked, If a mother carrying a baby inside her is struck, and the child dies, then is the killer charged with the murder based upon wither the infant yet born is a wanted birth? What if the mother says, “No worries, I was on my way to the abortion clinic… let him go…” does a child still not die?
CynicalOptimist on September 17, 2008 at 11:19 PM
They need to destroy here. Decimate her (is that what that washed up SNL actor said?) and they will stop at nothing to go after her, her family and anyone else the can. Because what she represents is so destructive to them. And they know it.
If you think what’s gone on since McCain picked her has bee a lot, you won’t believe how far it will go and how desperate the dems will get – come election day. This is bigger than just her, of course. But what she represents, and having her be the VP is, and your right of course – like a cross or holy water to dracula. I see this as only getting much worse.
wise_man on September 17, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I know what you mean though.. the endless possibilities when man plays ‘God’..
(I forgot the Colon Parenthesis after what I said)
DaveC on September 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Kinda like welfare mothers?
ronsfi on September 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Maybe we need to all go watch Logan’s Run. Or read some Huxley. Brave New World is where we are headed.
john1schn on September 17, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I see this as only getting much worse. – Wise
Agreed. If (when) the Cuda becomes V.P., it will be a nonstop Palin-bashapalooza. Remember how they turned it up on Bush after he beat Kerry? I didn’t think they could get any worse but they did. A lot worse.
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:23 PM
but that’s okay.. because the welfare
whoresmoms will vote democratic..DaveC on September 17, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Tony737:
I had braces-didn’t work, wear pop bottle glasses, am a nerd, add on my fingers, am very left-handed…and have Asperger’s Syndrome.
That’s a form of autism folks.
My son-the future US Marine-has it too.
We ARE not burdens…and neither are the Trig Palins of the world.
That’s all I can type because I’m having a RCOB moment right now.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 17, 2008 at 11:24 PM
No, I’m in Raleigh, NC.
SouthernGent on September 17, 2008 at 11:25 PM
they are essentially stranding the cost of their child’s life upon others.
Kinda like welfare mothers? – Ron
That’s a freakin’ homerun, a touchdown and a shorthanded goal all rolled up into one!
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Or, in this case, an Ayn-Randian race.
Tzetzes on September 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Don’t forget, over 80% of Downs Syndrome babies are aborted in this country, but even THAT isn’t good enough for this “person”.
not that it really matters (downs or no downs all lives are equally precious) but many of those 80% are mis-diagnosed
neuquenguy on September 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM
I had braces-didn’t work, wear pop bottle glasses, am a nerd, add on my fingers, am very left-handed … – Twerp
Sounds like you match the discription of most lefties, yet THEY are the ones who’d rather see you dead before you even had a chance to live. We’re glad to have ya though :-)
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Lactose intolerance is absolutely where we draw the line.
hillbillyjim on September 17, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Ahh, Raleigh…I know a very good looking man there.
surrounded on September 17, 2008 at 11:32 PM
The truly scary thing is, there hundreds of thousands if not millions that agree with this guy.
c3ichief on September 17, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Statements like those of Mr. Provenzo may seem shocking, but that may be because they were written and published. Normally, such attitudes stated quietly behind closed doors in homes, doctors’ offices, nursing care facilities, hospitals and hospices.
This attitude is not only directed at the unborn, but also toward disabled children and adults, the elderly, and those who have terminal illnesses. Those among us who are often least capable of defending ourselves can be viewed as unproductive, without potential, subnormal, and a financial burden on society. But instead of using these reasons, we rationalize abortions, “assisted suicides” and euthanasia as helping to prevent their “suffering.”
It seems to me there is an increasing acceptance of such attitudes and practices in our society.
Loxodonta on September 17, 2008 at 11:35 PM
If any of them are imperfect in any way, then they should die.
/Hey, it’s their cr*ppy philosophy…
john1schn on September 17, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I’m just shaking my head. Even in my worst nightmares I could not imagine anyone criticizing a woman for birthing a child, special needs or otherwise. It just goes to show the depths to which the left will go to smear someone they don’t agree with.
Frightening stuff.
Bob's Kid on September 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Agreed!
Metro on September 17, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Lactose intolerance is absolutely where we draw the line. – Jim
HAHA! Niiiice! Can’t drink milk? GET A ROPE!
How ’bout arachnophopia? Scared of spiders? It’s the CHAIR FOR YOU!
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I’m just shaking my head. Even in my worst nightmares I could not imagine anyone criticizing a woman for birthing a child, special needs or otherwise. – Kid
You’d think it would be considered kind and compassionate, right? But they’re neither, so it’s like a crime to them. They claim to be the ones who ‘care about the children’ … but I guess only the flawless ones … which is ironic because libs are quite flawed themselves, but mostly in the head.
Tony737 on September 17, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Get my comment out of the spam filter!
ninjapirate on September 17, 2008 at 11:50 PM
he should have called it a right rather than a morality. i could sympathize with that, but abortion is never a moral choice.
treyevans on September 17, 2008 at 11:50 PM
We can finally put an end to the curse on humanity that is lactose intolerance. All it will take is a few million abortions and a little hard work. Fight the power!!!
(my head hurts now from typing that crap!)
hillbillyjim on September 17, 2008 at 11:50 PM
What strikes me is that, being a teacher, I see imperfect kids every day. We do everything possible to educate and make nice little taxpayers out of all of them regardless of autism, downs, ADHD, cerebral palsy….the list is endless. The problem is that nearly everyone I work with would abort many of the students we teach. While they passionately advocate for them, they agree with this moron who is accusing Palin of immorality! Then they have the audacity to say Conservatives have no compassion. Well, in their perfect world, these kids would never live. So, being in the Belly of the Beast, I see the hypocrisy daily and it is sickening.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on September 17, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I think we found the new religion of peace and Abortion is their sacrament.
Kini on September 17, 2008 at 11:51 PM
If I recall correctly, the fundamental crux of Objectivism is, “I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will not live for the sake of any man, nor allow any man to live for mine.” So, since I consider myself something of an Objectivist, gun to my head, am I going to let someone else’s morals — even this man’s eugenic groupthink — affect my choices? No chance.
Given the choice, between Palin and this guy, I’d say one of them is acting according to Objectivist principles, and the other is acting according to the principles of National Socialism.
Spc Steve on September 17, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Here’s the link to the headline thread on this same topic.
Mary in LA on September 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM
“a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.”
Abortion is anything but an exercise of true freedom.
Irenaeus on September 18, 2008 at 12:03 AM
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