Whose policies led to the credit crisis?
posted at 9:40 am on September 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The credit crisis and the lack of oversight over government-subsidized lenders like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac occurred on the watch of George Bush, and many blame his economic team for their lack of oversight in the collapse. Barack Obama has made this point one of his major campaign themes, arguing that John McCain would provide more of the same failures that Bush did. However, what many do not recall is that Bush wanted to tighten oversight with a new regulatory board for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other government recipients for the express purpose of addressing bad loan practices — and Democrats blocked it.
The New York Times reported this five years ago:
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
This should have been a no-brainer, right? With hindsight, we can see that the Bush administration had accurately diagnosed the problem in the lending market and had a plan to address it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reluctantly supported the plan. However, Democrats objected (emphases mine):
Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
Sounds a little like the Democratic denial of problems in Social Security, doesn’t it? Nothing to see here, no crisis on the horizon. Everybody just move along, now. The Democrats had forced lenders to assume more risk at lower interest rates in the 1990s, as IBD points out today, and they didn’t want to countenance an end to their populist policies:
But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street’s most revered institutions.
Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.
The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but “predatory.”
Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the ’90s by Clinton and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this slow-motion financial train wreck.
And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi-governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the real estate market in America.
It was the Bush administration that wanted to rein in the madness in the credit markets, and the Democrats who wanted to extend the Clinton policies that created the crisis we have now. After the fit hit the shan, as Michelle says, these same Democrats want to shift blame back to the administration that wanted to increase oversight and curtail risk in lending practices while reducing patronage at the giant GSEs.
The Bush administration isn’t blameless in letting this get out of hand, but clearly the origins of the disaster and the efforts to keep bad policies in place fall on the Democrats in this case.
Update: John Lott points me to a March column he wrote at Fox News explaining the underlying causes of the debacle. Forcing lenders to make questionable loans and blocking tougher regulation of the government-supported entities was a recipe for collapse, and Lott explained it six months before it happened.
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FOLLOW THE MONEY!
marklmail on September 16, 2008 at 9:45 AM
This a team effort. Many of us pointed out that the Clinton policy on these matters was borderline Fascist in the truest sense of the word. Federal bailouts and interference on feasability tests amounts to gaming the risk analysis of the institutions.
Bush’s failure was not undoing Clintonian policy not generating his own.
sven10077 on September 16, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Democrats in denial.
Seems like a theme on 9/11, energy and now finance.
Three strikes.
Right_of_Attila on September 16, 2008 at 9:46 AM
Well, let’s see the NYT review what they wrote…they won’t.
right2bright on September 16, 2008 at 9:47 AM
The more you peel this onion back, the more dims you find in this debacle!
grapeknutz on September 16, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Spare me the partisan garbage. Both the Dems and Republicans are to blame for this disgraceful mess.
Dave Rywall on September 16, 2008 at 9:48 AM
fify
sloopy on September 16, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Follow the money, indeed:
…
Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008
Name, Office, State, Party, Grand Total
Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000
Bennett, Robert F S UT R $107,999
Bachus, Spencer H AL R $103,300
Blunt, Roy H MO R $96,950
Kanjorski, Paul E H PA D $96,000
Bond, Chris S MO R $95,400
Shelby, Richard C S AL R $80,000
Reed, Jack S RI D $78,250
Reid, Harry S NV D $77,000
Clinton, Hillary S NY D $76,050
(McCain is not on the list!)
jgapinoy on September 16, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Republicans have been trying to clean up this for years, but Hillary, Obama, Schumer, et al, have been protecting their piggy bank to the peril of everyone else.
marklmail on September 16, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Bush isn’t known for defending himself, but I hope he does on this one.
jgapinoy on September 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM
DRywall Dictionary:
either orr on September 16, 2008 at 9:54 AM
Funny, but I no longer hear the Democrats campaigning for more affordable housing.
JammieWearingFool on September 16, 2008 at 9:54 AM
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000
Clinton, Hillary S NY D $76,050
And what do these three characters have in common, besides their party affiliation.
Bishop on September 16, 2008 at 9:54 AM
You mean, the Democrats weren’t being entirely honest? My confidence in human kind is forever shattered:( If you can’t trust the party of William Jefferson, Harry Reid, Charlie Rangel, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, then who can you trust?
thedudesblog on September 16, 2008 at 9:54 AM
Treasury Dep’t is in the Executive Branch. No way Congress would give up control over Fanny and Freddy. There was social engineering at stake, lobbyist money, etc. The American people voted this Congress in.
Let’s do the same with health care now, and make it more of a federal function than it already is. I’d like Barney Frank and pals to make those decisions for me as well.
The federalization of functions that are rightly within the private domain of the individual ought to be a theme that McCain plays up.
JiangxiDad on September 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM
“…my head is in the sand, & I Will Not Read Ed’s Post!”
jgapinoy on September 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM
politically this is a lost cause, never the less its worth pointing out when the dims make their claims and ‘blame bush’
jp on September 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Been their modus operandi for decades and decades, from the Great Depression till now.e Mess with a market, ruin it, then come to the rescue. We must put a stop to this once and for all.
bbz123 on September 16, 2008 at 9:56 AM
That dates the origination of our economic woes in Bill Clinton’s lap.
Democrats legislated our problem in 1993.
Democrats legislated the enabling of the problem in 2003.
maverick muse on September 16, 2008 at 9:56 AM
This is perfect material for another McCain ad.
I hope one is in the works.
heroyalwhyness on September 16, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Maybe you should forward this memo to Obama; while he’s cashing checks from bankrupt companies now looking to Washington for a bailout.
Maybe? Perhaps?
$150,000 to Obama for a $200 billion guarantee from the government. It’s nice to have a senator in your pocket, isn’t it?
lorien1973 on September 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM
also, remember Bush’s “Ownership Society” rhetoric. Black home ownership also is no longer an issue.
jp on September 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM
This just proves that the presidential election is not the most important election this November. Without the real fiscal conservatives who care about the long range consequences of their actions in the house and senate this kind of thing will go on unabated. Am still waiting for a candidate (any candidate for any national position) to talk about investigations and inditements. That person will get my vote.
Tommy_G on September 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Let’s not forget that it was under Clinton that the Glass Steagall act was repealed. With Phil Gramm’s blessing unfortunately.
voiceofreason on September 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM
It’s all
Bush’sMcCain’s faultJP1986UM on September 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM
Remember, too, that His Holeyness got his in just four years. Most of these other folks have been in Congress a lot longer. Thirty grand a year… he’s bought and paid for.
Do you think he ever thought about sending $12 to his half-brother, just to double the poor man’s annual income?
Naaaah. What would that do to Michelle’s children, fer cryin’ out loud? One less summer camp?
either orr on September 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM
Just another example of why government is the problem not the solution. without government these subprime loans would never had been made to people that could not afford them. We need LESS government. 3.1 Trillion in rev is too much power in too few hands.
unseen on September 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM
sad thing is the GOP controlled the house and Senate in 2003 yet still couldn’t get this done
jp on September 16, 2008 at 9:59 AM
That’s not what the donks are saying, Dave. Have you heard anything about Dems being responsible from Obama? Barney Frank? Do we need to go over Obama’s record of bipartisanship again?
a capella on September 16, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Get this into the MAIN STREAM if at all possible. I’m not sure McCain will because he is all about change. Somehow Main Street USA has to see the history behind this.
Mr_Magoo on September 16, 2008 at 10:00 AM
If you wanna bite into a scrumptuous intellectual answer to this question, take a look at today’s article by Nassim Taleb, a fellow who’s been sounding the alarm for years against reckless application of statistical models in the banking industry.
Short answer: the fault lies with quantitative analysts who, due to overconfidence in statistical models, and superficial understanding the true complexity of the variability involved, underestimate the financial risks.
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/taleb08/taleb08_index.html
Good news: the people who made the mistake are the ones fixing the damage by applying the same statistical models and the same overconfident mindset. What could possibly go wrong?
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Progre$$ive $ociali$t chicken$ coming home to roo$t.
Not on my roof vote.
maverick muse on September 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM
“BUSH LIED, BANKS DIED!!!!”
Wait, what???
pherrman on September 16, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Dave, this is precisely the point of the post. Obama and the Dems are trying to place the sole blame on Bush and the Republicans.
The old guard politicians in DC are to blame. DC needs to be cleaned out.
SouthernRoots on September 16, 2008 at 10:02 AM
As early as 2002 the Republicans in Congress were itching to investigate this and the Dems just kept them at bay. This will not go away because class action lawsuits initiated by the shareholders are at play here. I hope they all get nailed!
carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:02 AM
As much as typically detest your posts, Mr. Rywall, you are correct on this issue. It is the duty of elected officials to act with responsibility towards future generations and it is apparent that neither side has been diligent in this. This now becomes something that should NOT be a partisan issue, but one in which both parties should act swiftly and with authority to reverse this spiral. Do we really want arabs to bail us out because we can’t handle our finances. This is serious and should be taken as a task that BOTH parties need to work out – together.
I just realized….i’m not in kansas anymore
theRealMcCoy on September 16, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Another sad thing is that the Bush “solution” was to make government bigger.
If they decided that repealing Glass-Steagall was a mistake, all they had to do was repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bailey act.
New departments equates to more spending which absolutely doesn’t equate to my concept of what the GOP should stand for.
angelat0763 on September 16, 2008 at 10:03 AM
There were two main reasons the legislation was stalled: 1) Democrats were getting too much campaign cash directly from the GSEs and backdoor cash to their favored community groups from the Fannie Mae Foundation; and 2) the Bush administration was insisting on a provision that would allow the regulator to force the GSEs to reduce their portfolios if there were a finding of “systemic risk” (i.e. exactly what is happening now). The GSEs made a great show of pretending to support the legislation overall, but they fought the systemic risk provision tooth and nail behind the scenes. When the House finally passed a bill in 2005 it did not inclue the systemic risk provision, but it did include a multi-million dollar affordable housing slush fund that Democrats wanted. The Senate stalemated over both of those provisions and nothing was done. Even after the Fannie and Freddie accounting debacles in 2004 and 2005, the politics of the systemic risk issue and the affordable housing slush fund caused the whole thing to grind to a halt. President Bush personally called for passage of the legislation many times in speeches and radio addresses.
If it had not been for the foreclosure crisis forcing Congress to “do something” this legislation still would be sitting there and the Treasury would not have had the authority to take over Fannie and Freddie.
rockmom on September 16, 2008 at 10:03 AM
It seems like the repeal of Glass Steagall made it possible for JPM to acquire Bear and BofA to acquire MER. The mess would be bigger if those deals didn’t happen.
dedalus on September 16, 2008 at 10:03 AM
People need to forget about blame for the moment and focus on solutions. Things are more uncertain right now than at any time in recent history and I’m not sure even the most knowledgeable experts have their hands around the scope and magnitude of what is happening right now. The next 24 -48 hours could be historic. It’s a good time to keep the TV tuned to CNBC and Fox Business along with frequent refreshing of Yahoo Finances homepage…
TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM
When a Republican is at fault, Drywall (and all Democrats) jumps up and down like a bird dog, yelling “See what your guy did!!!”
When a Democrat is at fault, Drywall says, “Well, both sides do it.”
fossten on September 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM
the fault lies with quantitative analysts who, due to overconfidence in statistical models, and superficial understanding the true complexity of the variability involved, underestimate the financial risks.
You lost me at “the”.
Bishop on September 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM
McCain is correct the economy if fundamentally sound, why else would Obama opt out of public campaign financing.
meci on September 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Chicken Recipe$ to follow-up application of the 2nd Amendment Right:
Chicken & Dumpling$
Chicken Noodle $oup
$weet & $our Chicken
your favorite?
maverick muse on September 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Who can tell me what the Glass Steagall act was.
Anyone?
Anyone?
It was to regulate, what…
Anyone?
Ben Stein — Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Way to go Barney Frank!
Too bad the people of Massachuetts are too blind to see you for the certified jerk assclown you really are and toss you out of office come next time you are up for re-election.
But then again, Massachuetts sold it soul to the Kennedys a long time ago, so there is little if any hope the people of that state will be voting this moron out anytime soon.
pilamaye on September 16, 2008 at 10:07 AM
This is all true but he still should’ve let Fannie and Freddie fail.
srhoades on September 16, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Excellent point.
A big puzzle piece in all of this is Lehman Bros. $600,000,000,000 bankruptcy. I’m sure Mr. Citizen of the World will make prominent notice that he and Hillary top the recipient list of Lehman Bros.’ political donations to congress.
locomotivebreath1901 on September 16, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Exactly! “Failed Bush Policies of the Past 8 Years” doesn’t fly here. As stated earlier by Sven10077, “Bush’s failure was not undoing Clintonian policy not generating his own.”
Mr_Magoo on September 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Please, don’t just point at Barney Frank…
Maxine Waters is the Chair of the subcommitee that has to do with all these bogus loans…
Romeo13 on September 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Who can tell me what the Glass Steagall act was.
In 1933, in the wake of the 1929 stock market crash and during a nationwide commercial bank failure and the Great Depression, two members of Congress put their names on what is known today as the Glass-Steagall Act (GSA). This act separated investment and commercial banking activities. At the time, “improper banking activity”, or what was considered overzealous commercial bank involvement in stock market investment, was deemed the main culprit of the financial crash. According to that reasoning, commercial banks took on too much risk with depositors’ money. Additional and sometimes non-related explanations for the Great Depression evolved over the years, and many questioned whether the GSA hindered the establishment of financial services firms that can equally compete against each other. We will take a look at why the GSA was established and what led to its final repeal in 1999
TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2008 at 10:09 AM
I think the news this am said Lehman Bros. employees had donated about $10 mil (don’t quote me, it was 5am). Perhaps Obama and McCain should offer to send their money back to those good folk to help them out.
Mr_Magoo on September 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM
This revolving door (e.g. Frank Raines — Fannie Mae, to Clinton Administration, and then back to Fannie Mae) had “Democrats Only” signs on it. Well, until the current crisis it did.
RBMN on September 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM
The GoP still controlled Congress back in 2003. Does anyone know if a bill actually made it to the floor, what happened to it and who voted for/against it? That could be a hammer against Biden, for example.
NPP on September 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM
A dude builds a mathematical model for a financial investment. Chances are, the investment will work just fine, and give you a return.
The model says there’s a .0000001 probability of catastrophic failure. E.g., all the planets align just right. Kablam. Of course, this will never happen, that’s a tiny number.
By the way, just humor me, what would the cost of this event be, if it were to happen, which of course it won’t?
$1 x 10^15
Okay. What if our economic assumptions are wrong? Say a coefficient is 2.0 but really it should be 2.001?
$1 x 10^100.
Planets align. Assumptions wrong. The event occurs.
Meltdown.
Ooops!
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Right there, “my friends”, will help seal the deal for McCain. I imagine he’s going to come out with guns blazing very soon. He’s got enough ammo from this financial mess, the Ayers/Wright/Pfleger mess, the Iraqi “wait until Bush is gone” fiasco to last him past election day.
Oink on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
In as much as Bush performed as an economic Progressive as “compassionate” (Jonah Goldberg, Liberal Fascism), beginning with giving large sums of money to 9/11 victims of terrorists, MCCAIN MUST DELINEATE MCCAIN’S OWN PLATFORM DISTINCTLY IN CONTRAST FROM BUSH’S OWN SOCIALIST BURGEONING GOVERNMENT IN SIZE AND “ROLE” AS BAIL-OUT DADDY-BIG-BUCKS.
maverick muse on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Isn’t the past CEO of Fannie Mae on Obama’s team? Jim Johnson?
right2bright on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Sorry for the doubling up there.
Oink on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
One major outcome of the legislation was the separation of commercial from investment banking.
dedalus on September 16, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Byron York had a great way at putting this in layman’s terms yesterday on Mark Levin. Basically, the Fannie/Freddie people cooked the books so their bonuses could increase each year. Jamie Gorelick made about $26 Million in four years while the main dude made $90 Million. Their bonuses were increased each year. The Republicans were itching to investigate but the Dems staved them off. Lots of lobbying money involved as well.
Senator Obama was quick to blame the Bush Administration yesterday. What about his culpability being second on the list of contributions from Fannie/Freddie?
carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Thank you BigDog for that excellent information!
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Yes, he was on the VP selection committee.
carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Look under the bus. See if you can pick him out from the crowd down there.
RBMN on September 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Another example of the failed Carter/Obama policies.
TooTall on September 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Frank Raines also tried to play the race card when all the stuff hit the fan about Fannie’s accounting. I wish somebody could find the video of the hearing. Some of us who were there were actually laughing our heads off in the back of the room.
rockmom on September 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM
It’s always up to Republicans to clean up the messes Democrats create.
It’s like taking your dog for a walk and having to pick up their crap.
John Doe on September 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM
From today’s New York Times:
But,but,but…certainly a community organizer could have weighed into these issues.
Rovin on September 16, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Get honest, people. This mess is directly attributable to Phil Gramm’s Commodity Futures Modernization Act passed in December 2000. John McCain’s good friend and former Economic Advisor(”America is a Nation of Whiners”) set the conditions for the market meltdown we are watching unfold now. The same guy whose wife had high level connections with Enron and the guy who is currently under investigation by Dept of Treasury for his role in selling offshore tax dodge investment schemes for UBS.
Just remember folks, “Country First” McCain is all about change and reform. Yeah, right.
Fletch54 on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Hold on there, partner. I recognize the name Jamie Gorelick. Wasn’t she that smug democrat on the 9-11 congressional panel who had advocated legal separation between the CIA and criminal prosecutors, which allegedly made it possible for terrorists to slide under the law enforcement radar to commit the 9-11 attack?
Being a Democrat is the easiest job in the world.
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Yes, that is she. She also is the defense for Duke against the la crosse players.
carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Thanks, Ed, for the enlightening summary of the issue.
Turns out that not only were the seeds of September 11th sown in the Clinton Administration, so were the seeds of the current financial meltdown. In both cases liberals failed to correctly assess the risks of their actions (or inactions).
MrLynn on September 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Jim Johnson had ZERO mortgage banking experince when he was named CEO of Fannie. Frank Raines had ZERO mortgage banking experience when he was named CEO to succeed Johnson. The entire operation there was political from top to bottom. Management was stacked with poltical types with zero industry experience, like Jamie Gorelick. Fannie would also strong arm its big customers like Countrywide to lobby on its behalf, and enlisted the Realtors and Homebuilders to engage their members in massive grassroots lobbying anytime Congress even hinted about coming after them.
Fannie also poured millions into groups like the Congressiobal Black Caucus Foundation and the Hispanic Caucus Foundation. The minority members of Congress were among its biggest shills. Even when the Republicans controlled Congress, Fannie Mae was controlled by Johnson and then Frank Raines and put most of its dollars into Democrats. This was no secret in Washington.
When Rep. Richard Baker got hold of a document that listed all the Fannie executives and their bonuses, Fannie threatened to sue him to keep him from releasing it. He did it anyway, and was shaking with anger. He later said it was the biggest act of political thuggery he was in over 20 years in Congress.
rockmom on September 16, 2008 at 10:28 AM
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Too many big words, can’t we just blame Bush?
Bishop on September 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Huh. ZERObama’s near the top, McCain’s not on the list, and
ZER0bama’s blaming Bush. I don’t get it. Isn’t that dishonest?
Akzed on September 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Didn’t know the Duke la crosse angle.
She certainly sounds like a poster child for liberalism. Big know-it-all ideologue who gets it wrong pretty much every time, with drastic, destructive consequences.
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM
And….don’t forget. The boards of Fannie and Freddie were loaded with Clintoids and other Democrat hacks.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I’m all for it. Bush lied!
jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Please, for the love of all this is good and holy, forward this to Team McCain. New campaign ad material!!!!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 16, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Nice Obama talking point there, but it is completely false. This meltdown is due to overinvestment in subprime mortgages and overconfidence in the way these mortgages were sliced and diced into securities that got AAA ratings. It is directly attributable to an effort by Fannie Mae and Countrywide to corner the subprime market. Both companies became insatiable for the high profits from subprime and led a race to the bottom in lending standards to keep their market share up. Merrill Lynch gave them a big assist by continuing to package the stinkier and stinkier loans and sell them to unsuspecting investment clients as low-risk, high-profit investments.
rockmom on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM
You always have terrific info. Thanks very much. Ever think of starting a blog?
JiangxiDad on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Well, this smells like a good commercial for McCain if his people use it right.
Doesn’t it always take about a decade for financial troubles to come to fruition?
One thing I don’t understand, how could this happen if 97-98% of us pay our mortgages? Unlike my neighbor who just abandoned their home and moved back to Guatemala.
moonsbreath on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM
This is an actual honest to God big fat smoking gun in the hands of the Democrats in Congress.
tmitsss on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Does anyone know what Sen. Obama or Sen. Biden said, or voted, about any of this? Sen. Obama has so many financial advisors – what were their positions?
rsb1 on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM
and it is aimed right at their left temple….
sven10077 on September 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM
I keep thinking that this stuff is not possible without the complicity of the voters, or that the average voter can’t possibly be able to know enough to vote intelligently–our government is too big and too complicated an enterprise for any one person to understand. Without citizen oversight (forget the media, whose job is was to provide this), these situations will surely be repeated.
I hope we don’t collapse under the weight of the whole behemoth. Who really could imagine the scope of the corruption in the government. It’s frightening.
JiangxiDad on September 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Yes I have seriously considered my own blog. Until recently I was employed by a major mortgage lender who would not allow it.
I am also shopping a book proposal on this mess. I have a ton of inside info, because I have represented both Fannie and Freddie customers and lobbied for and against them. I know some of their former employees who are dying to talk about some of this. I know Congressional staff who saw their strongarm lobbying up close and personal. I once worked at HUD and even worked on the first ever report on Fannie Mae way back in 1985 when it was technically insolvent. Even then its CEO was a pompous ass who rode around in limos and acted like he owned the world. I was around when the first mortgage backed security was sold.
I know finance people and lawyers who saw this mess coming but were powerless to stop it. And I can also read and connect the dots where I do not have personal knowledge.
rockmom on September 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM
You go Dagny. Count me as a reader.
JiangxiDad on September 16, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Ed – thank you so much for this thread. Not only is this crucial information for this election, it is vital that we not forget the lessons learned in the future.
Thank you for bringing up Jamie Gorelick’s involvement in this fiasco. It’s not enough that we have Jamie Gorelick to blame for the wall of separation between the FBI and CIA which made 9/11 more likely, we can personally thank her for her contributions to this utterly disastrous subprime housing fiasco.
I am left to wonder why she and others are not being prosecuted for cooking the books and thus reaping millions in bonus rewards? Is there a hair of difference between what she did and what, say, Ken Lay of Enron did?
Buy Danish on September 16, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Frank Gaffney(sp?) has an article up on I believe, the Washington Times; writing about industry murmurings concerning Shariah Compliant Financing. What’s next, indeed.
captivated_dem on September 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM
The first words out of Nancy Pelosi’s mouth last night on CNBC were, “it’s Bush’s fault.” I kid you not.
TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Whenever I see Barney Frank I can’t help but imagine him eating a banana. Why is that?
Akzed on September 16, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Stupid liberal policies caused this mess and according to Barry, more stupid liberal policies will cure it.
Someone explain to me why people think Barry’s smart? Because I can’t figure out why.
NoDonkey on September 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM
No amount of finger-pointing is going to make ordinary people like me happy about this situation. I’m sitting in a house I can’t sell (but with an affordable mortgage) because some idiots let other idiots buy houses with mortgages they couldn’t afford. My neighborhood and others are filled with houses up for sale because the owners could not afford them, and now they’re in danger of loosing them anyway. Meanwhile, those of us who have done nothing wrong are being screwed by market forces few of us understand. All I know is at the rate things are going, my husband will have new orders for his next tour by the time we can sell.
I’ll admit a lot of this goes over my head, and I’d like to see some solutions rather than blame. Also, this has scared us off of buying a house again for a very long time.
Anna on September 16, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Hmmm. Chairman of Senate Banking and Finance Committee with oversight responsibility, and also happy recipient of sweet below market personal interest rate from Countrywide. What in the world might that signify?
a capella on September 16, 2008 at 10:57 AM
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