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New battleground: New Jersey

posted at 10:10 am on September 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama has another Atlantic seaboard state slipping away from him.  A new Quinnipiac survey shows Obama losing seven points in a month and declining to a virtual tie in New Jersey.  With New York down to a five-point lead, the traditional Democratic bastions have now come into play in the election, boding ill for Obama in more traditional battleground states:

The contest between Barack Obama and John McCain in New Jersey is too close to call, with a new Quinnipiac University poll showing the battle for the state’s fifteen electoral votes at 48%-45% among likely voters.  Obama led McCain by ten percentage points, 51%-41% in an August Quinnipiac poll.

This is the fourth independent poll within the last week to show New Jersey as an emerging battleground state in the presidential campaign.  A Monmouth University/New Jersey poll released this morning shows Obama leading by 8 points, and a Marist College poll released Friday night had identical numbers to Quinnipiac, 48%-45%. A Fairleigh Dickinson University poll from last week had Obama up by six points. …

In New Jersey, Obama has a 56%-34% favorable rating, while McCain is at 56%-35%.  GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is at 42%-32%, while Joe Biden, the Democratic VP candidate, is at 48%-25%.  Nearly six out of ten New Jersey voters (58%) say McCain’s choice of Palin was a good one, while 59% say Obama made a good pick in Biden.

“In addition to the Palin bounce, Republicans seem to be scoring points with their attacks on the Obama tax plan,” Richards said.

The economy remains the biggest issue in the election in New Jersey, as in most other states.  However, Obama’s edge has narrowed to almost a tie on the economy, edging McCain by only five points, 48-43.  On foreign policy, McCain has a 2-1 advantage over Obama, 64-27.

Democrats carried the Garden State by seven points in 2004.  Seeing a lead within three points at this point in the race means that Obama will have to spend time and money campaigning in a state that should have been a gimme in 2008.  Its 15 Electoral College votes outpaces Virginia’s 13, where Obama hoped to win the Presidency by flipping a red state.  Rasmussen puts this in a tie today, but does the same with Pennsylvania, where Democrats need to retain its 21 EC votes (polls at Real Clear Politics).

Not only is this race tightening, it’s spreading.  Can Obama fight on defense?  The next round of polls should be very telling — and the debates are looking more crucial to both candidates.  However, as Power Line quips today, this isn’t what Obama had in mind when he talked about a 50-state strategy.


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It is amazing but I suspect McCain will be elected for genuine reform.

“change”

sven10077 on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM

I asked about this the other day, McCain should be a more ideal Repub. for NJ voters than Bush so he should do better there than Bush did….I hope

jp on September 16, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Like trying to contain a brush fire with a squirt gun.

JimK on September 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Did it finally happen?

Has the day really come when the sheep are sick of being fleeced?

Elizabetty on September 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Elizabetty on September 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM

“Baaaaaaaaaaa”, came the reply.

Limerick on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM

But, but, but, he is going to win Colorado!!

I will laugh my rear off is Obama manages to poach Colorado but ends up losing NY, NJ and/or Pa.

Elizabetty on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Poor O-Bambi. Even his attempts at self-elevation look like acts of desperation now.

AubieJon on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM

if all these big states are moving so much (NY, NJ, etc), how come the national polls aren’t? or is this delayed information underlying the move of the last couple of weeks?

jbnyc on September 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM

I’m telling you, no Obama/Biden signs in liberal strongholds, just leftover signs from the primaries – this is big.

Upstate New Yorker on September 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM

What do us “average” people know anyway……

EricPWJohnson on September 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM

This makes perfect sense though, if you own a business up there. Why vote for a guy who said outright he is going to raise your taxes, then give those taxes away as handouts?

Could the NE corridor be getting a strain of conservatism in their veins? Have they finally seen the hoax in liberalism and total taxation techniques by Team Obama?

One can only hope.

TheHat on September 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM

The Bergen Record polled over the weekend and found Obama comfortably ahead, and I’d be wary of thinking that New Jersey has indeed become a battleground. Still, if it forces Obama to spend more in the most expensive market in the country (you have to buy in both NYC and Philly to hit voters throughout the state), then that’s reason enough to cheer.

lawhawk on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

How are the national polls so close with McCain pulling away in red states and closing in blue states? Should be interesting to see what Rasmussen says on NY this evening.

lodge on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

If the trend keeps going, Obama will end up with Calif. and Oregon, maybe Mass.

right2bright on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

I am from NJ, Bergen County, and I have seen so many “Nobama” bumper stickers as well as McCain stickers. This area is heavily democrat, but McCain appeals to them. I also spoke with democrats who are voting for McCain because Hillary was their choice, but an inexperienced guy won the democrat nomination.
I told this to my brother, I think McCain will win NJ.

jencab on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

The mighty Casey has struck out?

TooTall on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

If the trend keeps going, Obama will end up with Calif. and Oregon, maybe Mass.

right2bright on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

McGovernesque

Elizabetty on September 16, 2008 at 10:19 AM

Well I can tell ya me and and 13 of the 14 members of my close family are in McCains team. Got the biggest boost of hope on Saturday, met up with an old friend, she’s now a student at Columbia in NY and a republican (or so it seems) at the same time, in a bar, sat a man wearing a t-shirt with the slogan “We don’t need ‘hope and change,’ we need Sarah Palin for Vice President”

We’re moving in the right direction in NJ, if we can get our 2 do nothing Senators out we’ll be on our way to freedom.

Rbastid on September 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM

The land slide is just beginning!

grapeknutz on September 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM

GOOD!!! He’s running scared.. I know that anything can happen, but this is a plus for the Repubs… I still hope that they dig into Obama’s past..

Your Occidental College records

Your Columbia College records

Your Columbia Thesis paper

Your Harvard College records

Your Selective Service Registration

Your medical records

Your Illinois State Senate records

Your Illinois State Senate schedule

Your Law practice client list

reshas1 on September 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM

The Bergen Record polled over the weekend and found Obama comfortably ahead, and I’d be wary of thinking that New Jersey has indeed become a battleground. Still, if it forces Obama to spend more in the most expensive market in the country (you have to buy in both NYC and Philly to hit voters throughout the state), then that’s reason enough to cheer.

lawhawk on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

I used to work for that paper. It is heavily liberal. I would be wary with their stats. I mentioned how much I loved Reagan and I thought my head would be chopped off.

jencab on September 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM

Good thing Team Barry abandoned the 57-state strategy. Now he’ll have more resources to focus on these states.

Exit question: Hey, how’s that rejection of public financing working out for ya?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 16, 2008 at 10:22 AM

also, if NJ is close then Penn should be a pick up for McCain or be very very close?

jp on September 16, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Bear in mind the NJ penchant for political corruptness. I’m inclined to think Obama will win NJ regardless of what the average NJ voter prefers. I assume ACORN has been active there.

a capella on September 16, 2008 at 10:23 AM

However, as Power Line quips today, this isn’t what Obama had in mind when he talked about a 50-state strategy

It’s the extra 7 states that’ll put Barry over…

ocbrat on September 16, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I haven’t expected a Dukasis like landslide despite the comparisons, simply because I beleive the country is much more liberal than it was in 88. However, I will hold out hope for a landslide which would be awesome for alot of reasons

jp on September 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Penn, VA and CO. Please, Mac, don’t make the same mistake Obama did.

BadgerHawk on September 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM

However, as Power Line quips today, this isn’t what Obama had in mind when he talked about a 50-state strategy.

Dammit. All of the good ones are taken!

Jim Treacher on September 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Are people finally waking up about Obama? Is it too early to be sure?

Still along way to go ’til November.

Showing typical Aussie skepticism and caution here.

Crux Australis on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM

A great aspect of Obama’s campaign is all the money it is putting into the economy.

carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM

It is hard for me to believe we could win New Jersey but it’s fun to dream about.

I do think McCain will crack 300 in the Electoral College by turning Pennsylvania and at least one of the upper midwest states that are tightening up…Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan.

t.ferg on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM

A great aspect of Obama’s campaign is all the money it is putting into the economy.

carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Tru dat. Especially the Alaskan economy.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM

also, if NJ is close then Penn should be a pick up for McCain or be very very close?

According to Rasmussen, it’s 48-48 in PA

lodge on September 16, 2008 at 10:28 AM

Tru dat. Especially the Alaskan economy.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Yes, especially in Alaska!

carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:28 AM

What’s up with Colorado and Nevada?

Crux Australis on September 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Three weeks ago Obama was ahead by 20 points on Intrade. Now he’s behind by 5. The perception of Obama as the loser in this election is growing. I’m hoping it becomes an avalanche.

backwoods conservative on September 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Wow, NJ in play? Could it be?

CP on September 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM

What do us “average” people know anyway……

EricPWJohnson on September 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Just ask ABC, CNN, NBC, they just happen to interview all kinds of average people, who are not happy with Bush! Hahahaha. Desperation.

kirkill on September 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Crux Australis on September 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Colorado: Left coast condo crowd.

Nevada: Gaming industry unions.

Limerick on September 16, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Speaking about Barack Obama and his impact on the economy…
Compliments of FoxNews

carbon_footprint on September 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM

I live deep in the belly of the kooky liberal beast…Boston. For some perspective to this story, not one (1) Obama sign on any lawns. Not one, zip, zilch, nada.

Comapre that to the crazy Hillary signs that have finally rotted and fallen and the sea of Kerry signs last election and you get a feel for what’s up.

On the other hand I’ve only seen one McCain sign, but still that’s 100% more than Yobama in a wicked liberal state.

Alden Pyle on September 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Hmm… “It’s the economy stupid”… and who wants more taxes?!?

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM

How are the national polls so close with McCain pulling away in red states and closing in blue states?

McCain is not pulling away in red states. Virginia is a deah heat, for examples.

BTW, “red states and blue states” have reverse meanings this year. The blue states will be GOP and the red states Democratic.

flenser on September 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM

jencab on September 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM

I live in Bergen County as well, and if this turns out for McCain, he will have a shot. I know many dems that are going to vote for Mac. We had a BO volunteer come to our door yesterday…a nice kid…and my wife said thanks but we are a McCain household…he said there are alot of them in this neighborhood!

Jersey is a funny state electorally, and polls don’t always predict the result. My sense is that the state is getting disenchanted with the Dems and many are upset that Hillary lost.

The state is ripe, but it will be tough.

joepub on September 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM

So, from what I can tell, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Washington, and New York are becoming more purple by the day.

Democrats may have seriously just blown the biggest gimme election in American history.

Lehosh on September 16, 2008 at 10:33 AM

Hmmm, it would be pretty amazing if NJ was in play.

I wasn’t aware we were such racists.

Mr. Bingley on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM

What’s up with Colorado and Nevada?

Too many Californians and Rust Belt democrats moving there.

Ann NY on September 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Wow. Battlegrounds are breaking out all over. Obama’s people have to be going nuts.

Blake on September 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM

The dems don’t believe in polls anymore because they don’t show the truth that Oblaba is actually 40 points ahead of Mac.

Bishop on September 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Hopefully, this is the beginning of an Obama “death spiral”. As polls trend away from Obama, the folks that were drawn to him on his charisma (what else is there) will lose their enthusiasm, dropping him farther in the polls, demoralizing even more of his supporters, increasing his drop in the polls, and so on and so on.

chromium on September 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM

I am from NJ, Bergen County

I’m from Hudson County. A suburb of Manhattan with the politics to match. Bergen is one of the more Republican counties I think. I used to live in Ridgewood though.

flenser on September 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Mr. Bingley on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM

It isn’t the racism. We all are still upset about that Corleone and Tattaglia mess. Give us time to calm down.

Limerick on September 16, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Battlegrounds are breaking out all over.

We may have about twenty versions of Ohio in 2004. Forget battleground states, it’s a battleground country.

flenser on September 16, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Mr. Bingley on September 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM

There are a lotta clingy gun owners and Bible-readers here in the Garden State. Heh.

ManlyRash on September 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM

I live in NJ, and I’ve expected this for some time. McCain matches up very well with this state, which has elected Republicans like Tom Kean and Christie Whitman. NJ has many Catholics, seniors, blue-collar workers, and veterans, as well as Hispanics who may not be sold on Obama. If McCain is ahead nationally by five points or more on Election Day, I think NJ will flip. McCain can’t count on it, and I don’t think he’ll need it, but it could be the icing on the cake.

sauropod on September 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM

My inlaws are life long Massachusetts “pull the (D) lever” donks. Spoke with them last night, both are voting for McCain.

Father in law is a WWII vet so it may be McCain’s military service in play, or his simialr age, but neither have any patience for BHO’s weird racist freinds, or crazy tax hikes.

Alden Pyle on September 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM

It isn’t the racism. We all are still upset about that Corleone and Tattaglia mess. Give us time to calm down. – Limerick on September 16, 2008 at 10:39 AM

And don’t get me started on what they did to Stracchi and Cuneo.

ManlyRash on September 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Senator Obama has enormous weaknesses on many major issues, from arrogance to victory in Iraq. Many Democrats and independent voters know this, but may be afraid of being attacked by Obama supporters if they express their doubts about Obama, even to pollsters.

Loxodonta on September 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM

NJ always tightens, but never works out well for us. Let’s stick to shoring up OH and VA and winning CO. This is still an uphill election as the fun! on Wall Street suggests and it’s still one that benefits the Dems.

Illinidiva on September 16, 2008 at 10:43 AM

I’m from Hudson County. A suburb of Manhattan with the politics to match. Bergen is one of the more Republican counties I think. I used to live in Ridgewood though. – flenser on September 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM

I’m from Somerset county but used to live in Bergen. The northern part is Republican – southern Bergen tends to lean Democrat.

ManlyRash on September 16, 2008 at 10:43 AM

NJ always tightens, but never works out well for us. Let’s stick to shoring up OH and VA and winning CO. This is still an uphill election as the fun! on Wall Street suggests and it’s still one that benefits the Dems.

Illinidiva on September 16, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Yes. People are getting way ahead of themselves talking about 40 states. If it happens, great. But let’s focus on the states McCain needs to win, like VA, OH and CO. Try to flip Penn and maybe try to put WI and MI in play to keep Obama on defense.

It will be amazing if McCain manages to win this thing against the intense Bush Hatred and media bias. Let’s not overextend our hand the way Obama did.

BadgerHawk on September 16, 2008 at 10:46 AM

If McCain’s team is going to look at this and decides to force Obama to spend more money there by upping their ad buys, the need to do it in the Philadelphia market and not in New York, since A.) The ad rates are cheaper, which make it a less-costly gamble if it doesn’t pay off, and B.) You get both the New Jersey and the SE Pennsylvania markets at the same time, and the Philly suburbs are a place McCain’s going to have to do well in if he wants to win Pennsylvania (he’ll have to do well in the NYC suburbs also if he wants to win New York State, but unlike New Jersey, NY has seven other upstate media markets to troll for voters, where the ad buy costs are much lower).

jon1979 on September 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM

McCain has been running TV ads in Philadelphia for months and they are effective. New Jersey also has some huge political scandals going on with Democrat mayors and state legislators. Its budget is a mess. The Democratic brand is tarnished there like it is in PA and NY. They have the ancient Frank Lautenberg heading their statewide ticket, which is not generating much enthusiasm. An anti-corruptio message by McCain is resonating in these states.

I think a lot of voters realize that there is not much government can do about large forces like the financial meltdown. But they do expect their leaders to at least be honest and stop growing government at their expense while they are tightening their own belts more and more.

rockmom on September 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM

We’ll never win New York or New Jersey, and I doubt even Pennsylvania, yet ain’t these polls just sweeeeeet?!? Poor Obama. Hehehe.

JohnAGJ on September 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Can you say” republican landslide”? Consider the Bradley effect on these states that are within 3 or 4 % points.The Bradley effect is considered to about 4%.Mccain/Palin are kicking some blue azz!!!!!

Marines for Mccain on September 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM

We’ll never win New York or New Jersey, and I doubt even Pennsylvania, yet ain’t these polls just sweeeeeet?!? Poor Obama. Hehehe.

JohnAGJ on September 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM

We will win PA.

Marines for Mccain on September 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM

If a Democrat can’t get elected in New Jersey, where can he get elected? Cuba?

Then that’s just the place for Barack. And his devoted followers.

Viva la revolucion!

NoDonkey on September 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM

I’m from the future. Obama who?

JiangxiDad on September 16, 2008 at 10:52 AM

I know this is premature, but here goes:

Let’s not get wobbly when we win!

In the aftermath of our 1994 rout of democrats, we watched in horror as our wilting representative daisies couldn’t muster the political will to cut $100 million in funding to PBS.

These are not the democrats of 1960. There is no Daniel Patrick Moynihan in the bunch. These are hard-core Alinsky style radical leftists. They deserve to be repudiated by history during their lifetime. Justice demands it.

Thanks. I needed to get that off my chest.

jeff_from_mpls on September 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM

My in-laws are democrats. They voted for Harold Ford, Jr. (we’re in TN) so it’s not a “racist” issue but they have both said that they simply can not vote for Obama. They will either stay home or vote McCain. These people NEVER stay home on election day but they are so unsure about Obama that they simply can not bring themselves to vote for him.

unmeritedfavor on September 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM

I hope my fellow NJ residents are wise enough to vote for McCain, but we also need to dump the cadaver Frank Lautenberg.

JammieWearingFool on September 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM

If the economy really starts to sour people will vote with their wallets. Take a look at what Obama will cost you based on your W-2.

McCain’s smart, he targeted his tax cuts to those economic demographics who traditionally turn out on election day.

There’s a $7000 chasm between what I’ll save with Mac and what I’ll give to the baby factories of Chicago under Hussein.

Alden Pyle on September 16, 2008 at 10:57 AM

“Slip slidin’ away, the nearer the destination the more it keeps slip slidin’ away…………”

red131 on September 16, 2008 at 10:57 AM

PowerLine: heh. The “Fifty State Strategy” seems to be based on putting all 50 states in play for McCain.

Jaibones on September 16, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Marines for Mccain on September 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Eh, call me skeptical for now but I would dearly love to see Pennsylvania or at least one big traditionally blue state swing to McCain. If that happens on election night no one will scream louder with joy at the TV than I. Mac ain’t perfect at all but he’s a damn sight better than Obama and the nutjob crowd he would bring into office with him.

Btw, love the name! Oorah!

JohnAGJ on September 16, 2008 at 11:00 AM

We better not get to cocky. This economic turmoil may just reverse the trend for Obama. I hope not, but Mccain just doesn’t come across well when speaking of the economy.

church on September 16, 2008 at 11:00 AM

My in-laws are democrats. They voted for Harold Ford, Jr. (we’re in TN) so it’s not a “racist” issue but they have both said that they simply can not vote for Obama.

unmeritedfavor on September 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM

I like Harold Ford Jr. The Democratic Party would be in pretty good shape these days if people had followed him and the DLC instead of kos. That big battle went down while I was a regular commenter at dkos and they couldn’t stop bragging about how they had won and were the power base of the party now.

BadgerHawk on September 16, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Yeah. McCain would be stupid to spend money in NJ.

lorien1973 on September 16, 2008 at 11:01 AM

JammieWearingFool on September 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM

One step at a time. I wish we could get rid of Lousyberg. He doesn’t even bother to respond to letters or emails. At least I get a stock letter from Menendez and Pallone. By the way, Corzine has been relatively quiet hasn’t he? Once his cabinet post in Hillary’s administration went poufff1

red131 on September 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM

New Jersey is so out there, that a McCain win would signal a 50 state sweep

Hening on September 16, 2008 at 11:03 AM

If these polls are correct, I got to believe it is almost all Palin-effect. I was at a fundraiser that McCain appeared at in southern/central New Jersey in May. (Traditionaly the most “republican” areas of NJ). It may have brought in a good deal of money for McCain, but I have never seen a less energetic or excited crowd. No energy or hope in the crowd at that time. It was understandable that a Red Jersey was a long shot, but there wasn’t even any excitement from the crowd for McCain’s chances in the national election.

I still think the chances of New Jersey going Republican are effectively nil. If election becomes about the economy, Republicans don’t have a chance in NJ. Especially with so many residents of New Jersey losing their jobs in the finance industry in the last few months and the great number that are going to lose their jobs in the next few months.

New_Jersey_Buckeye on September 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM

My Jersey compatriot JWF says:

I hope my fellow NJ residents are wise enough to vote for McCain, but we also need to dump the cadaver Frank Lautenberg.

…We have a lot more to dump than just him. This whole place is rife. I’ve never seen a constituency led so incompetently- yet so convinced “there’s no other option”.

Peeps round these parts curse the traffic but I choose to illuminate the cause: STREET SIGNS. Other states consider them necessity but in Jersey: BONUS.

Hell. Maybe I’ll run.

Bastids.

ChipDWood on September 16, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Could McCain be getting honest coverage of his policies? I say this because I was watching CBS evening news and they had a non-partisan give his analysis of McCain’s tax plan and juxtaposed it to an Obama campaing ad. Tha Obama ad came off looking like a fabrication. I was expecting the reporter to throw in his two cents and cast a poor light on McCain, he didn’t. I almost fell out of my chair. I was shocked, open mouth shocked for a few moments.

I do not watch the news regularly, is anyone else noticing more balanced coverage? Is the media is getting the message?

Theworldisnotenough on September 16, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Peeps round these parts curse the traffic but I choose to illuminate the cause: STREET SIGNS. Other states consider them necessity but in Jersey: BONUS. – ChipDWood on September 16, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Heh. Not for nothing is New Jersey called “The Bane of Mapquest.” Ah, New Jersey…where the weak are killed and eaten.

ManlyRash on September 16, 2008 at 11:08 AM

If these polls are correct, I got to believe it is almost all Palin-effect.

How long can the palin effect last, though? That’s the question. Palin is getting less press each day that passes so she needs to put her face out there more.

Talking to reporters on her plane would be a good start. The townhalls will help too, but she needs to be out front in center; if this has to do with her.

lorien1973 on September 16, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Somewhere, perhaps, Millicent Fenwick is smiling.

:-)

Logic on September 16, 2008 at 11:16 AM

If election becomes about the economy, Republicans don’t have a chance in NJ. Especially with so many residents of New Jersey losing their jobs in the finance industry in the last few months

I’m not sure why that would make them vote for the Dems, but Jerseyians are stupid people. So are finance people for that matter.

flenser on September 16, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Winging it on Hope! LOL! This is grand!

Sort of reminds me of the saying, “Wish in one hand and spit in the other, and see which one fills up first and the fastest!” Little small town lingo there. Reality bites!

freeus on September 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Oh, have you guys heard that he is now solely reading from the teleprompter while he is having these so called “townhall” meetings? They are saying he had the teleprompters set up even in the rodeo ring yesterday! Looks like Axelrod is afraid he may go off message or be a loose cannon with the gaffes! LOL! Maybe he should have had a teleprompter with him when he was speaking with the Iraqi officials!

freeus on September 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM

I have to beleive if Hillary or John edwards or Al gore was the nominee then we lose this election. Or just any run of the mill democrat party.
This whole election is still up or down on Obama.
This is the biggest flub in the history of the democratic party. I think they are feeling it, as just this week I have seen articles already accusing americans as a bunch of idiots and racists. lmao
I slowly see leftist pundits start to accuse Obama of this or that in running his campaign. I really don’t think Obama is going to be heart broke if he loses since he has raked in a ton of money and fame. He makes out like a bandit.
It’s funny if you think about it.
Barack allmost won the presidency of the United states just because it made white liberals feel good about themseves to vote for him. They were warned from a whole host of democrat bigwigs that he would lose(hillary, Ed Rendell, James Carville)
Liberals are stupid and this has always been our biggest advantage.

kangjie on September 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM

If McCain is tied in New Jersey then that means the only states Obama has locked up are Hawaii, California, Illinois New York, all of N.E., Maryland and Delaware. Or a 38 state victory for McCain.

CanadianGuy on September 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM

I’ve a cousin studying abroad in Europe and on Facebook she assured her sister that yes, she would be voting absentee from there. She wasn’t too concerned about it, she said, because there was no chance of CA going to the “crazies” anyway, even without her vote.

Sadly, she is correct. California’s going to have to fall somewhat further (and make no mistake that it IS falling) before the true “crazies” are run out on a rail and the sane people take control again.

Bob's Kid on September 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Again… Please don’t get ahead of yourself. McCain has been slightly ahead in the polls (in the MOE) for about a week for goodness sakes. The election still favors the Dems.

Illinidiva on September 16, 2008 at 11:29 AM

Oh, have you guys heard that he is now solely reading from the teleprompter while he is having these so called “townhall” meetings? They are saying he had the teleprompters set up even in the rodeo ring yesterday!
freeus on September 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM

This is good. It makes his campaign stops go more smoothly but doesn’t prepare him for the debates as well.

BadgerHawk on September 16, 2008 at 11:30 AM

McCain has to get lots of ads up on Philly TV stations, as well as the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton area. Philly itself is hopelessly Democrat, but the suburbs could go either way, and most of the rest of PA is solid Republican except for Pittsburgh. Ads on Philly TV stations could reach the Trenton/Camden/New Brunswick area in New Jersey, while the Jersey shore tends to be Republican anyway.

The Susquehanna Valley is mostly blue-collar, but Obama probably PO’d them with his “bitter gun-clinger” remark, so McCain could score by sending Palin up there. Bush only lost PA by 2% in 2004, meaning that a slight shift could flip PA to McCain.

Steve Z on September 16, 2008 at 11:32 AM

PPP(D)’s poll just went up on Ohio: another McCain by 4. It’s 1077 likely voters and an MOE of 3%.

That’s 7 Ohio polls on the list for McCain (5 at +4) and one for Obama. It won’t be long before the EC map shows it as pink.

Dusty on September 16, 2008 at 11:37 AM

With the exception of California and New York, I think McCain can sweep the rest of the 55 states….:)

Rovin on September 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Maybe the Democrats will dump Obama (or Biden) like they did Toricelli when it became obvious he could not win. The NJ Dems will not go down without a fight (illegal or otherwise).

jerseyman on September 16, 2008 at 11:40 AM

This is all good news but take it with a grain of salt. At this point in 2004, the polls showed Bush leading in New Jersey, Wisconsin, Maine, Pennsylvania. Check out the 2004 electoral map: http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Sep16.html (run by a lib).

poljunkie on September 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM

ManlyRash, good job so far, but as it’s time to fire up your tank brigade and release your inner Patton on the Garden State.

Damiano on September 16, 2008 at 11:48 AM

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