McCain: Oh, by the way, I don’t think Obama meant to call Palin a pig
posted at 3:58 pm on September 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Didn’t McCain run an attack ad last week insinuating that he did? Ed seemed to read it that way, as did I.
Did Barack Obama really call Sarah Palin a pig, as a John McCain ad leads people to believe? “No,” McCain said Monday. The Republican presidential nominee defended the ad anyway, saying Obama “chooses his words very carefully.”…
“He’s very eloquent,” McCain told The Associated Press and Florida newspapers in an interview, and “it was the wrong thing to say.”…
McCain said of Obama’s comment: “I didn’t like it. So we respond. I think the American people will judge as to whether he and others have treated Governor Palin fairly or not.” But he said he won’t let attacks go unanswered.
Follow the last link to watch. The One’s words aren’t parsed but the Katie Couric coda makes the accusation of sexism plain. If McCain doesn’t think he was calling Palin a pig, then what’s his problem with what Obama said? Or were the critics right in thinking Maverick made the charge in bad faith, and now that he’s been directly confronted about it he can’t bear to repeat it?
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It was milked for what it was worth, now he takes the high road at the end. Surprised?
lorien1973 on September 15, 2008 at 4:00 PM
First of all I do not trust anything in an AP story, and neither should you. I will wait for the McCain campaign to tell us what he really said.
rockmom on September 15, 2008 at 4:01 PM
McCain has done an awesome job even though he isn’t the right’s favorite we should give him a lot of props for his attacks and Palin being his VP.
lavell12 on September 15, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Because Obama called her “Lipstick” and that she smells like “old Fish”
Chakra Hammer on September 15, 2008 at 4:01 PM
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lodge on September 15, 2008 at 4:01 PM
McCain is saying either: (a) Obama said it, but maybe did not mean to say it; or (b) Obama did not literally call her a pig, but chose his words carefully to imply it.
Karl on September 15, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I think he just realized the ad was an overreaction, or at the least, too whiny.
locke on September 15, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I’m sure the charge was made by the McCain campaign, as opposed to John McCain himself. The two are very, very different.
The campaign is doing a passable job of seeming Republican. McCain himself, on the other hand, is still McCain – the man who loves Democrats a lot more than people with an “R” after their name.
flenser on September 15, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Who really cares? Story over. Time to move on.
Connie on September 15, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Whatever Maverick, JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT AND KEEP IT IN THE NEWS!!
pherrman on September 15, 2008 at 4:03 PM
No.
flenser on September 15, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Here’s a fact: Obama knew that the audience reaction took him to be calling Palin a pig. He would not have received such hooping and hollering with that statement otherwise. He chose to let the audience think he was calling her a pig whether he was or not.
carbon_footprint on September 15, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Not when the voiceover says I’m John McCain and I approve of this message.
highhopes on September 15, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Because in the heat of a battle, first impressions are not always 100% correct, in analysis, upon revue, after thinking about it and seeing the replay, he can’t definitely say Obama meant it. And he acknowledged it, he doesn’t think Obama meant it as an insult.
And the problem is?….
*
Sometime a cigar is just a cigar…
right2bright on September 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM
The ad didn’t contain that voiceover… it was web only…
ninjapirate on September 15, 2008 at 4:07 PM
I agree with Mac. For someone who usually chooses his words uber carefully and speaks as if he reads a prepared essay even in regular conversation, the words that came out of his mouth could not have been uncalculated.
He didn’t mean to call her a pig, and you can hear in the video of the speech that he didn’t, but he should’ve chosen different words as to not create the impression that he did.
AlexB on September 15, 2008 at 4:07 PM
yeah seriously AP, this is the same passive-aggressive stuff Obama pulled on the Clintons and been doing the entire election, how can you not recognize it?
YellowDawg on September 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Really, who gives a shit? The pig-thingy may have gotten McCain a few votes, and this reversal-of-sorts may give those back to Obama.
The entire thing was a classic tempest-in-a-teacup. Also, I’m pretty sure that even Obama doesn’t want this coming back up as a topic of conversation.
lionheart on September 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I thought these were all distractions and enough was enough. But hey, if they want to go back to it, then I guess we can just have the media talk non-stop about Palin some more! Works for me. Seems to be working for the McCain-Palin ticket, too…
JustTruth101 on September 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
There’s no way he could have thought that line recieved the reaction it did on any other interpretation than calling Palin a pig because of Palin’s line about the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull. It was clearly his intent to leave that inference even if technically he never called her a pig. Fortunately it blew up in his face.
highhopes on September 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
McCain is playing coy like Barry and the “can’t e-mail” routine….
if Barry can play the “who me?” game despite I’m the Light and Hope and I approve this message!: Mav can too.
sven10077 on September 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Which then makes the “I’m John McCain and I approve this message” tag disingenuous.
aunursa on September 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
BTW, the associated press is taking McCain’s words more out of context than McCain supposedly did to Obama…
ninjapirate on September 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Smells like disingenuous dirty politics to me. One of the many reasons why I’m not proud to have McCain as our nominee.
Zetterson on September 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Well I don’t quite see the contradiction.
I never thought Obama was out-an-out calling Palin a pig. But I did think it was a gratuitous swipe at her, and I don’t think Obama’s dumb enough to not understand he was making that connection.
Seems to be about what McCain’s saying here.
Typhoon on September 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM
This is a useless story. Of course Obama called pain a pig. But she’s a big girl and can take a slur or two. I’m sure she’s been called worse. This won’t hurt her unless Johnny Mac-aroni continues to keep this ultimate stupidity in the headlines–and it looks like whining.
/idiotic
urbancenturion on September 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Very true. Obama and his campaign are passive-aggressive as well as Obama suffering from the Oedipus complex.
carbon_footprint on September 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM
That ad never had that tag.
Typhoon on September 15, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Web ads don’t have to be approved by candidates? Interesting. My bigger point remains- A candidate can’t distance himself from the ads that go out on his behalf by his own campaign staff. It’s one thing when another group (state party, special interest group, etc.) puts something out supporting McCain but that isn’t the case here.
highhopes on September 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I think you’re thinking of John Lennon
/sarc&snark
urbancenturion on September 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I agree with you. I stated he may not have intended the comment to be “misconstrued” but after the applause, he knew the audience took it that way.
carbon_footprint on September 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Instead of crying that The Obamassiah called her a pig, say that The One was referring to her as “lipstick” and that Barack is continuing to demean women by objectifying them as merely that which is used to turn women into objects of lust.
In a post modern, deconstrutionist manner.
That should get feminist academia in a tizzy.
rbj on September 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM
I thoroughly doubt it. The story’s left the frontpages and has been slipping out of people’s minds. It’s not like the pressure is at its peak right now.
amerpundit on September 15, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Let me break this down…
1. The entire statement ran previously as a political cartoon which Obama lifted line for line.
2. If Obama did not mean to call her a pig, he at least was aware that it would be taken that way AND WAS FINE WITH THAT when it was.
3. McCain is an idiot most of the time who just can’t leave well enough alone. Like praising Obama’s community organizing. What possible good does it do to publicly retreat on this issue rather than just moving on to a new one? Answer none.
I swear McCain is his own worst enemy. He seems to have a serious impulse control problem which causes him to flirt with disaster when THERE IS NO BENEFIT IN DOING SO!
America1st on September 15, 2008 at 4:14 PM
McCain is doing it to keep it in light of Obama. A dangling of a carrot to the people.
upinak on September 15, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Obama distances himself from official statements released by his campaign in response to vice presidential picks, attempting to claim that they’re not speaking for him.
amerpundit on September 15, 2008 at 4:14 PM
the high road **sigh**
I’m wondering if Ayers, Wright, and Rezko will ever really be an issue or whether McCain will defend his lack of judgment.
El_Terrible on September 15, 2008 at 4:15 PM
You seriously believe that? Why would he even waste his time in such a long campaign running as a Republican (with such media contempt and just general hostile environment) if he loves Dems more.
terryannonline on September 15, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Sure would be an interesting ad… “I forgive Obama his mistakes in associating with admitted domestic terrorist, William Ayers.”
desertdweller on September 15, 2008 at 4:17 PM
The entire thing was a classic tempest-in-a-teacup. Also, I’m pretty sure that even Obama doesn’t want this coming back up as a topic of conversation.
Yep – but McCain is baiting Obama with this. If Obama takes the bait, then the story keeps running for another few days and keeps Obama off message until mid-week, at least. And with the current dynamics of the race, Obama can’t afford to be off message.
McCain is turning out to be a bit of a magnificent bastard himself.
Mr. D on September 15, 2008 at 4:19 PM
McCain’s nemesis is well, McCain.
Idiot. He just gave himself a swift uppercut.
Somebody shut him up before its to late!
TheHat on September 15, 2008 at 4:19 PM
C’mon. This is classic Rovian. McCain managed to totally get inside the ONE’s head as well as the media and kept them from talking about anything of substance for 4 days. NOW McCain gets to get on message while Obama is out there “fighting with his gloves off” and looking like O’same.
Remember how the One said that McCain didn’t know what he was up against? Heh, I think he got it backwards.
el hombre on September 15, 2008 at 4:19 PM
He didn’t say “Sarah Palin is a PIG”.
However, it was most definately implied – judging by the audience’s reaction.
He just did what comes naturally – being a juvenile.
tru2tx on September 15, 2008 at 4:20 PM
McCain’s ad was right and McCain was right in his statement above. Of course Obama didn’t DIRECTLY call Palin a pig, he only inferred it. McCain’s ad did not say that Obama called Palin a pig, it only inferred it.
Fair Game.
Maxx on September 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Do you think that quote could have been taken out of context by the hacks at AP?
pedestrian on September 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Politics has been defined as:
Mr. McCain, if you are not willing to make this a Global Thermo Nuclear War to win…………… your opponents certainly will.
Then they will decide “who gets what, when, why, and how…”
……… and Mr. Obama did call Gov. Palin a pig, in a way only a true politician could, with the ability to deny it, but his base is still laughing.
If you don’t see this sir, you truly don’t deserve to be President of the United Sates!
Seven Percent Solution on September 15, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I think McCain just wanted to raise the issue “as to whether he and others have treated Governor Palin fairly or not” in the forefront of people’s minds.
aengus on September 15, 2008 at 4:25 PM
McCain is right: Obama chooses his words very carefully and allowed the crowd he was speaking to to believe he was basically calling Palin a pig. (Did you notice the negative reaction of the crowd at the mere mentioning of Palin’s name?)
Obama knew about the vicious slanders against Palin. His bad if he chooses words that are interpreted like one of them.
He says he didn’t intend it? Well, it didn’t show and he got falsely accused. Tough luck. Learn the lesson, Obama.
evenfarer on September 15, 2008 at 4:30 PM
McCain seem very confused lately.
This is just one example of many.
Is this the kind of guy we want in the White House? I mean, he can’t even tie his own shoes…
an_abstraction on September 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Since this is the only kind of crap that the MSM will cover, you have to make with it what you can. They won’t report anything of substance that might hurt their guy so you gotta distract them. Sorry, I know “distraction” is a trademarked slogan of Bambi ‘08, but it’s the only word I could come up with.
If they would grill Bambi like they have Palin, then McCain would have some material to talk about. But McCain doesn’t have much choice since they won’t delve into Ayers or Wright or his government rebate plan (er, tax cut plan) or the his VEEP thinking he wasn’t the best option or his total lack of accomplishment or any one of dozens of real issues.
rockhead on September 15, 2008 at 4:35 PM
It seems obvious to me McCain is just trying to move past the silly slapfighting over it. Doing otherwise could backfire and since the voters will decide for themselves based on the actual comment itself, why take that risk?
mike_NC9 on September 15, 2008 at 4:36 PM
McCain is doing great by playing coy, w/the “He is very eloquent. He chooses his words very carefully…”
As someone already noted, Obama lifted the line from a cartoon. Bob Beckel repeated it the day before. Biden said the same thing right b4 Obama did.
Coincidence? I think not!
JAM on September 15, 2008 at 4:36 PM
If McCain stops attacking and buys into the press saying he is running a dirty campaign he will lose. He has to attack and attack that is what got him to the lead.
Jdripper on September 15, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Is this the kind of guy we want in the White House? I mean, he can’t even tie his own shoes…
an_abstraction on September 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Neither could FDR. SO?
Oh, that’s right he was a Democrat.
JAM on September 15, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Throw another bone to Obama, McCain. “Pig” comment is now not about Palin and Obama was a “great” community organizer.
Good Lord.
jencab on September 15, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Next.
pugwriter on September 15, 2008 at 4:41 PM
He’s going to lose anyways, regardless of how his campaign is run.
Sorry! :]
an_abstraction on September 15, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Nobody called Palin a pig. It was quite clear that Obama was calling the McCain campaign and platform a pig. McCain’s nomination of Palin was the “lipstick”. By saying “You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig” Obama was basically degrading Palin to the status of “lipstick” or “arm candy” for McCain. He was trying to say that she was a token. She is the “lipstick” that was put on the McCain campaign “pig”. The audience seemed to “get” that after a moment of reflection.
It should really enrage women. It was degrading. Imagine if McCain made a comment about “watermelon” in any reference, no matter how tangential to the Obama campaign.
Basically, Obama, with that comment, called
crosspatch on September 15, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Obama’s SPEECHWRITERS choose their words very carefully. Obama is just a carefully trained sock puppet.
highhopes on September 15, 2008 at 4:43 PM
What if a troll showed up and nobody noticed?
carbon_footprint on September 15, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Oops, accidentally hit “submit” the last sentence was supposed to say:
Basically, Obama, with that comment, called Palin “sweetie”.
crosspatch on September 15, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Good cop, bad cop McCain.
Here’s another one: “Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor”
What? Gov Palin? Nooooo! How could you think that? Was her name mentioned? She’s just a mayor right?
See, they’re systematically targeting the most memorable lines in her speech. You know, the ones that trigger supporters at McCain/Palin rallies to hold up signs. It was a command decision of the campaign to shake things up with a sly attack followed by planned faux outrage at “faux outrage.”
If Barack had no idea he calling her a pig then he is dangerously unprepared to be President. People should be ashamed to support him if he wasn’t calling her a pig. Being a sexist is forgivable, being so stupid you have no idea what’s happening in the campaign, at opponents rallies, or in the news around you is a dealbreaker.
econavenger on September 15, 2008 at 4:46 PM
What if a troll showed up and nobody noticed?
carbon_footprint on September 15, 2008 at 4:44 PM
They’d still be a troll crapping all over the thread.
JAM on September 15, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Offshore drilling and earmark reform speak got him in the lead. Nothing wrong with attacking when it makes sense and in the right proportion though. This was a proper response and shows that the calm cool and collected Palin is influencing Big Mac already.
the optimist
mike_NC9 on September 15, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Okay, why is this AP article the only source for this interview with “Florida newspapers?” So far I can’t find any other corroboration on the Times-Union or Jacksonville News sites. They simply post the same AP article. Seems odd, but then who knows. Maybe I missed something?
Deanna on September 15, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Head fake. Keep ‘em off balance.
Nichevo on September 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Obama didn’t literally call her a pig. He implied it, “chose his words carefully”. I understand exactly what McCain is saying.
ctmom on September 15, 2008 at 5:01 PM
McCain either has selective memory or is in the early stages of Alzheimer’s. If you subscribe to his “I am honorable and noble.” meme you’d have to say he has Alzheimer’s, since he pulled same bs on Mitt in the primaries.
If you subscribe to the notion that McCain is a politician through and through, and plays down in dirt with the pigs, then you’d have to say he has selective memory – a disease most if not all politicians suffer from.
He’s either a great man suffering from brain disease or a pol suffering from pol’s disease. I’m disliking him more every day.
trailboss on September 15, 2008 at 5:02 PM
He’s getting the message that nobody wants to see the ticket whine or play the victim card?
Bob's Kid on September 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM
This thread was designed to serve up trolls, and….here they are.
McCain acts a bit like Obama on this matter–while Obama is always Obama–and all of a sudden he’s brain-dead, he’s gonna lose, etc…….
Bring it on, trolls. We’ve heard every bit of the garbage rotting in your tiny heads, and you won’t be the last to spew it.
Janos Hunyadi on September 15, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Even though he phrased it so he would have plausible deny ability, there can be no doubt what Senator Obama meant by his choice of words. Governor Palin is the “pig”, and Senator McCain is the old “fish”. I think it was crafted to get a response from the right, which it did. Obama was trying to push buttons, and he was successful.
I hope that Senator McCain and the good guys react differently in the future, and you can bet that because of the fear in the Obama camp, there will be much more of that crap coming. I think the best response to that kind of baloney is to ignore it. Of course, I am not getting paid handsomely to run a campaign.
kam582 on September 15, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Obama either called her a pig, or, if not, then he called McCain one. Any doubts, listen carefully to the tape.
Entelechy on September 15, 2008 at 5:22 PM
McCain just did.
The fact is that the ads run by the McCain campaign do not reflect the mindset of McCain. If you base your perception of McCain on his campaigns ads rather than on the words coming out of his mouth, you’ll have a skewed perception of the man.
McCain himself seems incapable of ever saying a bad word about Obama, or any Democrat.
flenser on September 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM
He knew exactly what he was doing. He and Axelrod probably talked about it for hours.
Elizabetty on September 15, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Sure like he didn’t mean to mock Senator McCain’s injuries. My interpretation. You judge for yourself.
Forward to 12 minutes.
csvdsaint on September 15, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I’m not wondering. McCain already blasted some state GOP ads that attacked Obama by bringing up Wright.
“No enemies to my left” is John McCain’s motto.
flenser on September 15, 2008 at 5:30 PM
He’s getting the message that nobody wants to see the ticket whine or play the victim card?Bob’s Kid on September 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Let’s hope so. Let Obama’s camp be the whine ‘n cheese party, while McCain and Palin give the appearance of being adults proposing solutions.
Time for McCain’s camp to put away all the “Obama said X about Palin” ads and start running some “Obama said X about [key issue]” ads.
The public will hear plenty about the gaffe-ticket’s self-inflicted oratorial idiocies thru the various media channels. Camp McCain needs to focus on hitting him hard, fast, often, and sans mercy on the issues.
That will give voters something substantial to chew on about Obama, and not just rhetoric and smear/response games.
Harpazo on September 15, 2008 at 5:33 PM
gah…the strikethru text should be a block quote.
Oops.
Harpazo on September 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Dumb.
Good Lt on September 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
The speaker or writer implies.
The listener or reader infers.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming.
The Monster on September 15, 2008 at 5:37 PM
McCain: We now temporarily suspend disbelief that Obama called Palin a pig, and will return to the airwaves next month with daily installments of the Annenberg Chronicles, starring Bill Ayers and Barack H. Obama. Stay tuned.
Steve Z on September 15, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I think the slickest part of the insult was pretending Sarah did not even exist on the ticket and adding that this lipsticked pig of “McCain policy change” was really just an old fish that would stink up DC.
Barry: “What??? There’s a woman with a fish nickname on the ticket too? A barracuda is a fish? I had no idea! I’m just a stand up comedian these days. I don’t really follow politics or campaign language.”
Yeah I give him credit for slipping that one under the radar. Even if most of America got distracted by the pig insult, I’m sure the Barracuda knows Barry was twisting the knife there with his choice of metaphors about “McCain.”
econavenger on September 15, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Indeed. Axelrod is a sinister figure, who’ll cost O. the election. The two, together, are a summation of vcuous = vicious.
Our country is looking for change, but not their kind.
Entelechy on September 15, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Darn, E, pay more attention.
Summation of vacuous + vicious = Obama/Axelrod.
Entelechy on September 15, 2008 at 5:59 PM
I think this ad will just leave an echo in people’s minds that “Obama called Palin a pig.” McCain could afford to fight fair against the Democrats if the media were playing fair. But that’s not the case.
We’ve seen this strategy before. Heck, I’ve used it myself (high school debate). Here’s the best example I can think of:
http://www.hycyber.com/VERSE/friends_romans.html
Mary in LA on September 15, 2008 at 6:01 PM
inferred: (4) to hint; imply; suggest.
Maxx on September 15, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I guess maybe Obama wasn’t trying to destroy her, then?
chiefeditor on September 15, 2008 at 6:39 PM
That dog won’t hunt.
“I’m John McCain, and I approved this message.”
Sound familiar?
He could have answered it differently .. but I don’t think it’ll cause too much trouble.
There will be, however, an ad showing McCain’s commercial accusing Obama of calling her a pig, followed immediately by a clip of him saying “no” in response to the question of whether he thinks Obama called her a pig. I’ll be surprised if it’s on wrapped by close of business today.
cgoode777 on September 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM
cgoode777 on September 15, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Obama called Palin “lipstick” which is, to my mind, worse than calling her a flat out pig. He degraded a woman who is governor and enjoys the support of 75% of the Democrats in her state and 80% of voters overall.
He called her “lipstick” which is typical of a man who sees women as “sweeties”. She is the lipstick on the McCain campaign pig but the campaign is still a pig according to him.
If I were a woman, I think I would be more upset to her being relegated to being the campaign’s “lipstick” than being seen for the person she is. Crass.
crosspatch on September 15, 2008 at 7:02 PM
It’s been misused so often that the damn dictionary duly records it. Thus it is now bereft of meaning, as it has been assigned two, meanings that are in opposition to one another.
Same damn thing has happened to “comprise”.
And GET OFF MY LAWN!
The Monster on September 15, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Maxx, I sympathize, but what you’re seeing at reference.com is a dictionary editor waving the surrender flag and caving in to an incorrect popular usage. So many people nowadays use “infer” when they mean “imply” that most editors don’t even try to fight it any more.
Here’s a good explanation of the distinction at bartleby.com.
Mary in LA on September 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Anyone who thinks Obama didn’t called Palin a pig, has not played close attention to this election.
He called her a “pig”. I was almost clever, but it was just plain stupid.
The question I have is:
Why did he find it necessary to call her a “pig”?
Saltysam on September 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Oh well, let’s try this again:
FINAL DRAFT
Anyone who thinks Obama didn’t called Palin a pig, has not played close attention to this election.
He called her a “pig”. It was almost clever, but it was just plain stupid.
The question I have is:
Why did he find it necessary to call her a “pig”?
Saltysam on September 15, 2008 at 9:32 PM
LOL! Nah, don’t spoil the fun. It’s always entertaining to watch McCain splay himself at the feet of liberals.
Fletch54 on September 15, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Actually, thinking about it, isn’t this just another way to keep the story in play?
It was just winding down…and now it is in the news again as pundits argue, again, whether Obama meant to call Palin a pig, or really is just a poor off the cuff speaker…
Either way, it is all good for McCain…
18-1 on September 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Actually he was calling out McSame on his message of “maverick” and bringing “change” to Washington. Then went on to say his admin would be the same as Bush’s. Then tied McSame,s rhetoric to Bush’s policies as putting lipstick on a pig. I don’t know if you got to see the whole speech or at least the 2 minutes before the PC “offending comment“ (the link was in a previous thread on this subject), because you would see the audience responding no differently then when BO made the lipstick comment. The clip here at HA started just before lipstick/pig.
Chimpy on September 16, 2008 at 3:10 AM
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