Carly Fiorina: SNL’s skit was sexist
posted at 7:07 pm on September 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Looks like we’re holding the victimization pageant over for a second exciting week.
A top aide to John McCain said Monday she thought comedian Tina Fey’s impersonation of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin on NBC’s Saturday Night Live over the weekend was sexist because it portrayed the Alaska governor as lacking in substance…
“The portrait was very dismissive of the substance of Sarah Palin, and so in that sense, they were defining Hillary Clinton as very substantive, and Sarah Palin as totally superficial,” Fiorina told MSNBC earlier Monday. “I think that continues the line of argument that is disrespectful in the extreme, and yes, I would say, sexist in the sense that just because Sarah Palin has different views than Hillary Clinton does not mean that she lacks substance.”
Please. This is the same show that used a kid to play Dan Quayle. If a joke about the two of them being lightweights magically becomes sexist because she’s a woman, then the perennial GOP argument that Democrats are elitist must magically become racist as applied to Obama since now it can be misinterpreted as code for “uppity.” The writers aren’t calling her a bucket of fluff because she’s a woman or even because she’s a Republican (McCain isn’t portrayed that way on the show); they’re calling her that because she seemed to the left — and to some conservatives — as ill informed in the Gibson interview. Which brings us to our exit question, via Patterico fave Jan Crawford Greenburg: Is Team Maverick guilty of reverse sexism, i.e. demanding a lower standard for Palin than they’d demand for a male politician? Between Fiorina’s lame bit of demagoguery and McCain himself insisting that Obama’s lipstick comment was “the wrong thing to say” without being able to say why, they’re certainly doing nothing lately to ease Heather MacDonald’s worries.
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Good on McCain.
The Republicans should keep charging sexism until the Dems can no longer breath; rub their faces in it until they vomit from the charge.
After the Republicans smother the masters of identity politics in their own manure, maybe the Demwits will have had enough of the idiocy.
mylegsareswollen on September 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM
The libs think that Mitt video was from yesterday? LOL
LibTired on September 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Have you ever considered writing the “Gossip Column” for Willy Kristol and the “Weekly Standard”…?
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Probably wouldn’t be as mature as we Repubs would like to remain, but….Damn, that’s gotta be the most satisfying thought I’ve seen this election season. :)
inviolet on September 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Believe me…
Cooler heads will prevail…!
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM
The truth is the truth. Carly should be the last person to complain of sexism. Particularly when Sarah Palin didn’t have a problem with it.
As I said, I had to deal with HP when she was grossly mismanaging it, and those were dark days. I cringe at ANY thought of her having any role in a McCain administration.
HP was a great company before she was CEO, and great after she was CEO. It was in severe decline WHILE she was CEO.
Ask any IT person who dealt with HP during her reign.
wildcat84 on September 15, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Well – and I think Senator Obama addressed this all very well the other day when he remarked:
“Why do women get married in white? I’ll ask again: WHY do women get married in White?
So they’ll match the kitchen appliances!”
grtflmark on September 15, 2008 at 10:35 PM
It wasn’t sexist, it just sucked.
It’s like she expected more out of the dope who killed Weekend Update…
SuperCool on September 15, 2008 at 10:36 PM
this chick’s a democrat liberal. Very biased. She believes in The Annointed One.
steve007 on September 15, 2008 at 10:40 PM
“She who must be obeyed” and I, got married in stainless steel…!
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 10:40 PM
She’s certainly not unattractive.
Jaibones on September 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM
I can certainly appreciate your contribution.
Who would actually know; better than one of her employees…?
Stay wild…!
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Sorry…this is HotAir, right?
Jaibones on September 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM
In space and on your time Jaibones…!
Hallo…!
You cooler than cool…!
Jaibones…!
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I thought it had its moments but the liberal slant was just an expected let down. Look, I am an Technical Project Manager and if I were to go to work and block leftist blogs or perhaps use my position to pontificate conservative values, I would be fired. Let me say that again… I WOULD BE FIRED. And by the way, where is it stated that “stand-up philosophers” have to pound political figures in order to be amusing? Its lazy, trite and frankly boring at this point. Invariably, when I see a Chris Rock stand-up routine I am going to hear about how white people do things this way and black people do things… Blah, blah, shoot me in the face already. Poehler and Fey’s anti-conservative rhetoric is more regular than my 0915hrs bowel movement. The difference is that my BM has more variations, size color, frequency…
Claypigeon on September 15, 2008 at 10:52 PM
…thanks for the Weak End Update….
…frequency? Can you pick up AM radio?
Puritan1648 on September 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
We need to educate ourselves on this:
Mark Levin Show Sept 15, 2008
Saltysam on September 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
With respect to the varying coloration…have you ever considered checking with your proctologist…?
“Blah, blah, shoot me in the face already.
”
The name of the TV series was “Just Shoot Me”.
The olde man was fool, and the daughter had great lips, hips and eyes…!
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Wow, you really made your point, Mr. Scrota.
Pointing out a lame homonym error and making a hackneyed pun just cleared everything up for us. Again, thanks for that germane political analysis, Scrot.
Claypigeon on September 15, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Am I the only one who thought the skit was actually a nod that the media IS being sexist to both Sarah and Hillary..but for different reasons? Maybe I’m giving SNL too much credit.
SouthernGent on September 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Yah got it “backarsewards” _pigeon..!
The “scrota” is the front part and the “enuendo” is the back part.
I’d suggest another visit to your proctologist and listen very carefully next time..!
Yah hear…?
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM
LOL. More pointless.
Let me guess. “Golden Girls” went to commercial and you wanted to give us the gift of your intellect again? Wait dear, I can’t come to bed because I disagree with someone on the internet.
Go to bed, douchebag.
Claypigeon on September 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM
And really nice cupcakes. She was in “Quigley Down Under”.
But I was referring to Jan Crawford Greenberg (not unattractive).
Back On-Topic, Tina Fey was absolutely spot-on for Sarah P. She didn’t overplay her hand, I don’t think. Just good comedy.
Jaibones on September 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Explain.
Jaibones on September 15, 2008 at 11:33 PM
You started this repartee…!
“douchebag”
Is that a noun or a verb…?
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Stop it Carly! Conservatives are NOT “victims”.
Teddy on September 15, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I’m still up…_pigeon…!
J_Gocht on September 15, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Carly Fiorina was the one at HP that tossed hundreds of Americans out of work to send HP manufacturing overseas. When asked about it she just cattily responded that Americans were wrong to think they had a right to a job.
Well, no Ms. Fiorina, I do not feel I have a right to a job. But I certainly do have the right to refuse purchasing HP products.
After Ms. Fiorina made this anti-American business decision and her even more snide comments afterward, I still boycott HP products.
Hawthorne on September 16, 2008 at 12:10 AM
The victim card is getting tiresome.
Kjeil on September 16, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Look up discrimination on Wikipedia and ideology is not listed as as a form of discrimination.
This is just a reflection of that / liberal bias
Chakra Hammer on September 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Thanks folks…!
The bird who drops droppings indiscriminately took me to task earlier, without so much as a clue; except for his political bias…!
Claypigeon on September 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I want to thank you bothe for your insightful, thoughtful and personal experiences with respect to Ms Fiorina’s heartless lack of personal feelings, lack of comity and understanding with respect to her employees…!
Hopefully Senator McCain will understand the harsh attitude she has previously exhibited.
One can only hope Senator McCain sees the light…?
He should drop Ms Fiorina from his personel staff…!
We can only hope and pray…!
J_Gocht on September 16, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Leave Ms. Fiorina alone.
Under Democratic rules she’s entitled to be left alone and do her campaigning for Johnny Mac.
The sexist trolls on this seem to now think they can get uppoty and critisize a woman?
You kids need to head back to the Democratic Party reeducation camps for an identity politics refresher course.
Know your place you sexist pigs.
mylegsareswollen on September 16, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Tina Fey should be praying for a McCain/Palin victory in Nov. It’s the only thing that might save her pathetic excuse for a career.
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Keep it up, I have already have had legions of women alone saying, “Fu#k Obama, I’m voing for Sarah…..”
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Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2008 at 1:29 AM
I thought it was funny and Tina Fey nailed the accent and mannerisms. Palin liked it too, especially since she once dressed up as Tina Fey for Halloween.
The lefty slant was to be expected from SNL and wasn’t as bad as it could have been.
Carly needs a funny bone.
Common Sense on September 16, 2008 at 1:32 AM
Once more, for those who missed it:
Gotch
SuperCool on September 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM
We have to be careful with this “sexism” thing. That’s a term invented by the Left. Otherwise, it’s called treating men and women differently. Because men and women are different. And that’s cool, isn’t it? Or do we now accept that the Left has been right about this all along?
We fall into the trap of accepting their false premises when we use words like sexism, even though it’s fun to throw it back at them. But it gives them credit for too much, and is like us waving a white flag in the culture war.
Halley on September 16, 2008 at 7:47 AM
Enough with the “Sexism!” already. They got the idea out there quite nicely when they addressed reaction to the Palin pick. They are now seriously overusing the card–strategically, they should keep their mouths shut and let the American public fill in that blank themselves. They are at serious risk of being viewed as whiners who themselves believe that Palin is a lightweight.
DrMagnolias on September 16, 2008 at 7:48 AM
For all of you people who believe that Fiorina mismanaged HP you really do not understand business.
Fiorina was brought in at a time that the only division in HP that was meeting its profit margins was the printer division. Their marketing strategies was abysmal. It was an engineer friendly company losing market share on all fronts and their stock was in decline.
The board was hostile and fighting each other (a point that was not resolved until the descendants of the corporation founders were finally forced from the board). She fought these people the entire time she was there.
The HP management style had lost its luster and credibility. HP was known in Silicon Valley as a retirement home. All you had to do was get a job with HP and you were set for life because they never fired anyone.
They had no trained professional sales group. Their software division really sucked. They were immersed in the PC wars and had no distribution system to get the products delivered. The board wanted to place another HP engineer in as CEO but it was the banks and the investment houses that told them to go outside of the company or they were going to devalue their credit rating.
This is just flatly wrong that HP was this little paradise on earth before Carly arrived. It was a company living off one division that was in serious trouble. She came and made the hard decisions that had to be made.
She fired a lot of people and the word on the street in California and Wall Street was it was about time. The freeloaders and featherbedders that were sucking off HPs fortune had to go. If she had not done what she did HP would have gone under and some Japanese firm would now own the HP brand name.
When she shake up an established corporation you make enemies. Internally and externally you get a bad reputation. For all of you blasting Fiorina for what she did you are either woefully ignorant of the time or the facts of what was happening.
Jdripper on September 16, 2008 at 7:54 AM
Even having seen many of your contributions before I’m surprised at how ugly that comment is. Wow.
You are the first person I’ve ever seen defend Fiorina’s tenure at HP. I’m not saying that makes you wrong, but it is certainly not what one normally hears about her.
DrSteve on September 16, 2008 at 8:14 AM
So Carly Purina’s going to do for Obama what she did for HP: drive it into the ground! Excellent!
Spanglemaker on September 16, 2008 at 9:07 AM
*Newsflash* Comedy and satire are often politically incorrect. That’s what makes it funny. Everyone who is anyone gets satirized, so we are all going to have to get used to it. You can’t insert political correctness into comedy or it won’t work. In fact, you could do a satirical sketch that is completely politically correct and that might be funny b/c it’s so unfunny – a la Norm MacDonald’s schtick at the roast of Bob Saget. BTW: Sarah Palin had the BEST response to that Tina Fey skit: “According to her spokesperson Tracey Schmitt, the real Sarah Palin had a good laugh along with the press corps in the back of the plane and millions of Americans at home.
“She thought it was quite funny, particularly because she once dressed up as Tina Fey for Halloween,” Genius comeback. For those unfamiliar with the way women can be catty and classy at the same time, this is perfect.
foxforce91 on September 16, 2008 at 11:10 AM
I’m sorry… why would I listen to anything regarding politics from Joan Crawford, I mean..(*what? She’s who?*)…
Sorry… who the hell is Jean Crawford Greenburg?
tickleddragon on September 16, 2008 at 11:11 AM
All she does is whine about sexism. It has the same effect as walking around telling people that if they touch you, you will sue them. Completely annoying and the fact that she is known as a former CEO doesn’t help get McCain any votes if not lose them. Palin already gets the women vote through identity politics, she really doesn’t have much substance yet, the real sexism, if we are to believe what conservatives have been saying for at least the last twenty years, was putting Palin on the ballot because she is nothing more than a affirmative action hire. But Palin gets the women vote nonetheless; Fiorina is overkill and more of a detriment than a benefit. There is nothing likable at all about her.
LevStrauss on September 16, 2008 at 11:17 AM
My favorite line from the insider discussions in the McCain campaign: “Hey, we’ve got these five white guys…”
manwithblackhat on September 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM
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