Everything new is “old” again
posted at 4:30 pm on September 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Earlier this week, Barack Obama promised that he would sharpen his attacks on John McCain in response to panicking Democrats watching their gimme election vanishing before their eyes. Instead of coming up with something new, Team Obama has decided to go with an old attack — by calling McCain old. Two days ago, they tried it with the blindingly stupid e-mail ad, and today they’ve apparently farmed the theme out to their surrogates:
On This Week with George Stephanopoulos this morning, Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., a surrogate for the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., raised the age and health of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., when discussing the qualifications, or lack thereof, of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
McCaskill said she stood by her remarks that she’s “uncomfortable with anyone, regardless of gender, that is going to be vice president to one of the oldest presidents we’ve ever had that has never met a world leader.”
When Stephanopoulos asked her it was fair to raise McCain’s age, McCaskill doubled-down and mentioned his past skin cancer, saying, “I think what we’re talking about is a reality. Other people talk about his melanoma. We’re talking about a reality here that we have to face. This is someone who’s going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency. All of us know it. I just think that it’s the facts, George, and that’s something that we need to start focusing on, are the facts, instead of distortions and lies.”
Is age an issue in a presidential candidate? It could be, but McCain is hardly decrepit. His physical disabilities have nothing to do with his age, and his mind is as sharp as ever. In looking at both men, McCain seems to be thriving, while Obama seems to have aged years in the past few months. McCain’s 72 is a lot different than 72 would have been even 24 years ago, when the nation re-elected a 73-year-old Ronald Reagan to a second term.
While it’s not an illegitimate question, it’s not new, either. Voters have known about McCain’s age all through the electoral cycle, and he answered the medical questions in May when he released his medical records — something Obama has yet to do. His prognosis is excellent, and doctors pronounced him in fine shape, which certainly didn’t appear to shock his 96-year-old mother.
This smacks of desperation by Team Obama. They should have learned their lesson when they botched the e-mail ad. It makes them look like they’ve run out of arguments and have to go back to the ones that flopped on their first attempt.
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irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 9:41 PM
The thread is everything new is old again.
tee866 on September 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM
LOL. Seriously, no disrespect. But there has been a herd of buffalo trying to ride shotgun on the forum. A few have stepped in to stop the stampede, but that’s usually a worthless exercise. Has been here.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Good grief new folks. There are arguments on this site all the time. I am going to hate myself for saying this but if you want a fight say the words Intelligent Design or I don’t like Gov. Huckabee. People who have been here for a while just argue. It gets testy sometimes. Man up argue your point. And the reason a lot of folks are being called trolls is that they are trying to be to cute by half in the wording of theirs post to the point no one knows what the hell they are talking about. Sorry for the language.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Please read what you type before posting. You are never going to be respected here unless you do.
Don’t even know what your point is from that post. That is the action of a troll. If you don’t want to be called and treated like one, then please stop behaving like one. Make your point (clearly, please), and be prepared to have people disagree with you.
Trust me, it will lower your blood pressure.
connertown on September 14, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Perhaps you are referring to the tactics used by Obama supporters against a rado station in Chicago that featured someone critical of the Messiah?
Or the so-called Fairness Doctrine that liberals are salivating to resurrect in order to silence talk radio?
Or the college campus libtards who routinely shout down any speaker they don’t agree with?
Or the Kos and Huffpo fever swamps that routinely generate vicious and vile slanders?
As for the “hyenas” here, spare us your pathetic whining. No one is shouting you down. If anything, you keep getting pestered to explain yourself and you continually refuse to do so.
However, I can understand your reluctance to answer any questions, as the more you open your mouth the more obvious you become.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 9:45 PM
This another one who sees you for the immature little noxious kindergarten level fig that you are. But then that’s not difficult for any adult of any appreciable level of maturity to do.
HalJordan on September 14, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Trailboss’s threads seem queer to me. Nothing really suggests that you will have any discussion develop with this poster. I’ve never actually run across this one before. Probably very young…I don’t know.
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 9:46 PM
No offense taken, Miss Cindy. You are always a lady.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Communists kill their comrades, too, when they are no longer useful.
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Yes, they take the final step. But the tactics and purposes begin at the same point, the only difference is the point at which they stop. I believe they must be fought at every step, lest the progression becomes inevitable.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Well, since the troll(s) have hijacked it- the subject now seems to be: how can I not admit my position while attacking everyone else’s position.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
You never did say who you were voting for in Nov…now did you….
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Quite likely the major beneficiary in this election cycle has been Orvill Redenbacher.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 9:49 PM
That’s because this is a righty blog. It is OUR blog, and if you want to come here with a different opinion, you must accept that you will be in the minority. And you’ll need a thick skin.
One last thing you should know – if your goal is to provoke us or convert any of us, I think you are wasting your time. But it’s your time.
Lastly, if you think we are a herd here, I would like to hear your description of the crowd at HuffPo, Kos or Politico. Or even the majority crowd on ABC or NYT Political pages. That’s where we see the sheep (Bah-rahhhhk, Bah-rahhhhk).
connertown on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Palin/Steel
tee866 on Sept 14,2008 at 9:39PM.
tee866:Ummm,no the ticket is fine,your the ones that are
obsessed with colour,and your stuck with Hopey/
Changey,and now the koolaid is wearing off,and
you see Hopey as 1,000,000 million times worse
than Jesse,or Al!
Good luck,you split your party in half for him!
And,thanks to your previous”ONE” sexual perdator,
Bill Clinton,the “FAIRY TALE COMMENT” has put the
Liberal Party into a full-blown CIVIL WAR!
Hows all that UNITY working for ya,EH!
canopfor on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
You never did say why you’re asking…
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
That would cause mass suicide over at Huffo and Kos, Excellency.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Oh, Lord, that’s going to send some folks over the edge.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Alright, no more fighting.
Everyone take a cute little bunny break and calm yourselves:
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(..)
C(“)(“)
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 9:51 PM
If you want an honest debate- then give us an honest answer on your position: Who are you voting for in November and why?
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Should have followed my own advice and read before posting. Two “last things”. Sheesh.
connertown on September 14, 2008 at 9:52 PM
just did
You never explained why you’re not saying.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 9:53 PM
What the hell?!! No it WHO the hell are you? Nobody is talking to you on this subject. Yeah it’s cabish on the streets asshole where noboby graduated high school. Like escarole is scadole or money and ham capracola is gobagole. It’s a Sigi thing or thats Sicilian to you. Mind your own business and we will get along just fine.
sonnyspats1 on September 14, 2008 at 9:53 PM
canopfor on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Now that just show’s your ignorance since I’ve been a Republican since I was old enough to vote and that was 24 years ago,so please don’t assume that you know me because you don’t.
tee866 on September 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
You are making an extreme error in judgment if you think that I have the slightest desire to “be respected” by a bunch of troll!, troll!, troll!, troll! calling preschool maturity level herd mentality follow the dimmest bulb commenters. In fact I would be highly insulted..
KentAllard on September 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Uh. Sicilian. That explains a lot.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
My vote will go to McCain, of the 2 I feel he will do the least amount of damage to my country during his term.
I posted that at an earler time, when there were 4 hopefuls, and in the intervening time I’ve come to rethink that. Listening to the man has been an epiphany for me, although I would never question his love of country, I DID have major issues with his politics. Now, not so much.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Yes, they take the final step. But the tactics and purposes begin at the same point, the only difference is the point at which they stop. I believe they must be fought at every step, lest the progression becomes inevitable.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Well then they are certainly taking their time about it, aren’t they? In 1796, during the 1796 election cycle, one man attacked another with a cane and was driven back when his victim swung a fireplace poker at his head.
As I said, our politicians used to have a habit of throwing things at their opponents, grabbing them to keep them from talking, punching, kicking and swarming onto people when they became outraged. I would say things have gotten better since then.
When media are shut down at the point of a gun, or people are dragged off the street when they peacefully state their opinions, then you can worry.
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Still too afraid to state who you are voting for, huh.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 9:58 PM
cabish-cabbage me thinks!
ManlyRash on sept 14,2008 at 9:28PM.
ManlyRash: My grandfather said it to me now,and then!
I think its,Kapish!
Thats the extent of my French!:)
canopfor on September 14, 2008 at 9:59 PM
connertown on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
I don’t believe this has anything to do with “converting”.
I’ve read this site for years, and as anyone who knows will note, the spectrum of opinion covers the entire field. Even the most liberal on this site get treated with respect when they argue with facts and challenge with sincerity.
What I have witnessed today appears to be a deliberate attempt to drag this site into the gutter where they most likely came from. I believe it is a serious case of envy (maybe even fear), because this site has a reputaion for being taken seriously by the American body politic.
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 9:59 PM
I’m curious, irongrampa: did the inclusion of Palin on the ticket influence your decision? For my part, I planned to vote for McCain only so as to not votefor Obama. But now I find myself enthused about his candidacy – if only because it opens the door for one who could be another Reagan.
Your thoughts?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Oh, Lord, that’s going to send some folks over the edge.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
But delicious to think about just for the effect it would have, yes?
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
tee866 on Sept 14,2008 at 9:39PM.
I try not to judge people but I can honestly say after reading your posts I have no idea what your opinions are other than you disagree. I don’t even know what you disagree about, maybe the age thing.
KentAllard and Holmes spelled backwards, you and a few others don’t have stated opinions, you are just here for your superiority fix. That’s fine but you chosen tactic is no better than the ones you are denouncing. You don’t want to change the discourse you are just stirring the pot. But then you know that don’t you.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Just watched Greta Van Susteran’s special on Gov. Palin. In-depth reporting on the myths and realities. Excellent! First to be absolutely fair and balanced reporting on Gov. Palin. Kudos FOX!
Neocon Peg on September 14, 2008 at 10:03 PM
LOL. My mother’s people hail from Tuscany and Venice. I grew up hearing Italian – not a corrupted dialect of it. My opinion is biased, but I regard it as the most lyrically beautiful language in the word. If you ever visit Florence, listen carefully to the way the children speak there…sounds almost like they are singing.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Thats the extent of my French!:)
canopfor on September 14, 2008 at 9:59 PM
My God…are you saying that when you go to France you not only can’t speak the entire language, you can’t even say the common phrase “merci beaucoup”?
Oblamba would be ashamed of you.
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:04 PM
KentAllard on September 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Hey!
I haven’t called you anything.
Who are you voting for?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Yes, but I shall have to make a good confession afterward, Excellency.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:05 PM
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I feel exactly the same. I was so mad at him for several of his stands that I was letting it cloud my judgment. The optimism of Gov. Palin made me finally listen to Sen. McCain and now I am almost ashamed of myself.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Everybody likes a little fun.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:06 PM
But we can support Mr. McCain and still disagree with some of his positions, no? I see no reason to feel shame. If anythin, it demonstrates that there is room in our party for disagreement.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Yeah, MR, it did. Even more was the speech he gave at the convention. Remember “Stand and fight”? He had me there, without question.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM
It is really not at all hard to get a “superiority fix” at this place anymore as anyone who is above the maturity level of a 12 year old would have to get that here these days even if it wasn’t what they originally came here for. In spades on any thread that Manyrash is on. I don’t know how they could help it. Like Albert said – it’s all relative and this place has become a very low bar.
Tav on September 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Would you care to elaborate,or are you going to leave that statement to the imagination?
sonnyspats1 on September 14, 2008 at 10:09 PM
The lower Obama’s poll numbers fall- the more frequent these troll infestations become.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Tav on September 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM
You are knowledgeable on special relativity. Perhaps you would like to discuss that?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM
My god…..
Bishop on Sept 14,2008 at 10:14PM.
Bishop: If American and Canada had to save Europe again,
and I was parachuting into France,I’d be saying
to myself,Sh#t,it would have to be France,can’t
speak a lick of French,I better hook up with a
American GI,d#mmit,of all places stinkin France!:)
Haha.
canopfor on September 14, 2008 at 10:11 PM
It was an electrifying moment. Still, I wonder: is our support for the Grand Old Man quantified largely by the legacy he bequeaths to us in the person of the Arctic Fox?
For me it is and I regard his presidency largely as a grooming of Sarah Palin to succeed him. In that respect, I believe, he is wiser and more patriotic than we ever imagined him to be.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I still have a disagreement with McCain about immigration, tho’ I think he’ll listen to us on it.
Recall the shamnesty thing, he (they) listened then, so why not again?
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
@ Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Well you caught me. I did not read the entire thread, and did not see the attacks you reference.
I suspect that tonite may have been an aberration. Rest assured there are plenty on this site who understand that we have a reputation as being fairly level-headed (at least in our eyes). Most of us don’t tolerate name-calling, or belittling very well.
connertown on September 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
The lower Obama’s poll numbers fall- the more frequent these troll infestations become.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM
So the infestation is going to get worse…..much much worse?
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
No elaboration is necessary.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:14 PM
You asked a question and I answered it. I am waiting for the courtesy of a response. I don’t like misunderstandings especially when I am the one who is being misunderstood.
sonnyspats1 on September 14, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Yah, MR, Palin could well be the 1st woman President-and that would be a fine thing.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
That’s his/their strategy Cindy; always play offense- never take a position that requires defense. It’s the perfect way to suck the optimism out of a thread and slowly derail it in the process. I’ve been noticing this on my hometown news blog. It’s very deliberate.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Tav on September 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I rest my case. What is your opinion the subject of the thread? I don’t care what you think of ManlyRash. Do you think McCain’s age is a legitimate campaign tactic? Should the Obama camp use it? How should the McCain camp reply?
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I still have a disagreement with McCain about immigration, tho’ I think he’ll listen to us on it.
Recall the shamnesty thing, he (they) listened then, so why not again?
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Have you seen some of his recent campaign spots referencing illegals? Ugh. On this point he seems to staking his ground and holding fast.
Mac could seal the election tomorrow just by saying he would uphold and enforce all the existing immigration laws.
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:12 PM
As much as that man has raised my ire, with this one move, he made me see his truest nature.
He is handing the American people an opportunity, and it is now up to us to realize its potential.
If this fails, we’ve got noone to blame but ourselves.
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I still have a disagreement with McCain about immigration, tho’ I think he’ll listen to us on it.
Recall the shamnesty thing, he (they) listened then, so why not again?
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Have you seen some of his recent campaign spots referencing illegals? Ugh. On this point he seems to staking his ground and holding fast.
Mac could seal the election tomorrow just by saying he would uphold and enforce all the existing immigration laws..
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Whoops. Someone thrash me with a wet noodle.
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:16 PM
You are going to have to break out the holy water and the Rituale Romanum, Excellency. This is going to make The Exorcist look like Romper Room. Pea soup everywhere.
And Allah just had the rugs shampooed.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Yep! That’s okay though; I can b!tch-slap the best of ‘em.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:17 PM
It strikes me, on the age issue, that McCain could paraphrase Reagan and not hold his opponent’s age against him.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:17 PM
JUST IGNORE TRAILBOSS AND MAYBE (HOPEFULY) HE WILL GO AWAY! Don’t feed the trolls!
Neocon Peg on September 14, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Thats what I thought. Mr.Manly Rash no cabish! heh heh
sonnyspats1 on September 14, 2008 at 10:19 PM
I don’t know how old you are, irongrampa, but if you are a senior citizen: did you ever think something like this would happen in your lifetime?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:19 PM
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Well it is annoying. Along with the “don’t call me names” “Allah, they are calling me names” “Allah, your such a pessimist.” “You are so immature” Whine whine whine. If you are so darned unhappy STOP POSTING HERE. I guarantee that someone is going to say I can’t tell them not to post here. No kidding.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Born in 41, MR–and no, I never thought the possibilty would arise.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Santino…va’ a fare una bella cacata. Ti sentirai meglio.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Did you go to Vietnam?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I know, I know but at least “we’ll build the damn fence” to paraphrase Sen. McCain. I don’t understand why he doesn’t understand that we need to have a better handle on who’s here.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Yes.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:23 PM
This isn’t going to play.
McCain can hammer Obama on issues, and Obama can only hammer McCain on physical attributes.
People will not like this.
Thus far we learn from Democrats:
- Being older mean being useless
- Experiencing cancer means you’re gone
- Women cannot have it all.
Make a good ad, I think.
drjohn on September 14, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been a fan of Mac since the start, but his immigration stance bothers me because most of America doesn’t believe the way Mac does and he could bury Obama tomorrow just by LISTENING to us.
Bishop on September 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
drjohn on September 14, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Their dog won’t hunt.
But I encourage them to try. It’s all they’ve got!
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I was guilty of giving Allah a hard time with his pessimism.
But after my jitters over the Gibson/Palin interview a few days ago- I’m not picking on AP anymore.
In fact- I was getting so weepy over that interview that Manly’s Patton had to give me a good smack to get my mind right.
It was like medicine…..calmed me right down…..
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I was too young to go. Thank you for going. And for returning.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Perhaps – just perhaps – our Sarah may have a salutary effect on him. Time will tell.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Here here! Thank you irongrampa.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Damned straight, soldier. I will not tolerate cowards in my army.
*deep breath*
OK…back to Manly Mode.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Roger that Sir!
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:31 PM
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I don’t pretend to know Allah, obviously, but I think his stuff is suppose to be a subtle jab at everyone’s fears. He cracked me up just before the interview when he asked if he could mix medications. Gov. Palin is the bomb diggity and I hope she is around a long time.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Maybe I missed it, but isn’t Obama a smoker? Shouldn’t that be a health concern?
Laura in Maryland on September 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM
I agree, as these are some pretty serious negatives, when turned back on the Democrats. Identity politics turned on its head, as it were.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:33 PM
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:23 PM
You and my husband are the MEN! We love you.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Well don’t forget Cindy McCain is a big proponent of his position on immigration. Mac has an adopted daughter from the orphanage of Mother Theresa herself. So I’m guessing she is in his ear about all the disadvantaged future brewery worker GOP voters south of the border.
I for one was very active right here on HA all along the way making calls and joining in the defeat of that POS they call comprehensive immigration reform. This beast has reared its ugly head again. Johnny Mac is has interpreted the new wellspring of donations and popularity all wrong. I am still against any and all forms of immigration that bypasses out current laws on the books.
sonnyspats1 on September 14, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Your case is resting on a one legged stool. Mr. “Straight Talk” McCain has now made every manner of thing legitimate when he pretended to think that his opponent had called his VP choice a pig when he himself had used that term to describe what he thought was same old same old with just some covering on it. He did the same thing when he insinuated that Obama wanted to practically turn actual kindergarten kids, unlike some of those on this blog who just act that way, into porn star, when he, and you are free to disagree with it, wanted to teach them some things about spotting adult predictors and turn them it. And McCain is the nominee of my party. MY PARTY! A party that I now have many doubts about. But what is the use of talking about those doubts here when the blog juveniles just yell TROLL!!! Frankly my dear, I really don’t see much point. Maybe on another blog with a higher percentage of adults.
Tav on September 14, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I suppose it should, but that will depend on how heavily he smokes. If he’s a chain smoker, I would say yes. Then there is the matter of the media, which has chosen to remainsilent on this issue.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:35 PM
We wish you well in your future endeavors, Tav. Happy trails.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Laura in Maryland on September 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Ooooh, good one. How does he get away with that? I have never been a smoker but they have been reduced to the lowest thing crawling that I even feel sorry for them. But for Sen. Obama, it’s cool. It may become all the rage again.
Cindy Munford on September 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Said this before, (probly on this blog) that America seems to have a knack for having the right person for the right time, in any given situation. Even a cursory look through our history will bear that out. The stumbles (Carter) merely point out the value of staying on the correct path. I seriously do not see why this election should prove any different.
irongrampa on September 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Allah toughens us up and helps keep us honest- but with Palin- most of the folks in here lead the way.
The folks in here are pretty astute. They’re good people…damn good people.
FiveWays on September 14, 2008 at 10:37 PM
And here I am calling you MISS Cindy. Dang. Is Mr. Munford a Vietnam vet?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I agree, IG. I think it is a tribute to what a great nation this is and what a basically decent people Americans are.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Tav on September 14, 2008 at 10:34 PM
But what I don’t understand is, why did Obama feel it necessary to call Palin a pig?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Let us hope not, Mrs. Munford, even for Obama’s sake. He’s too young for cancer and should quit smoking.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:40 PM
UGH!
Neocon Peg on September 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Now Santino no cabish! Unless you called me full of BS. heh heh
sonnyspats1 on September 14, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Agreed, Santino. All the more reason we must continually pressure Mr. McCain – even after he becmes president – to rethink his position on this matter.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 10:42 PM
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