Everything new is “old” again
posted at 4:30 pm on September 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Earlier this week, Barack Obama promised that he would sharpen his attacks on John McCain in response to panicking Democrats watching their gimme election vanishing before their eyes. Instead of coming up with something new, Team Obama has decided to go with an old attack — by calling McCain old. Two days ago, they tried it with the blindingly stupid e-mail ad, and today they’ve apparently farmed the theme out to their surrogates:
On This Week with George Stephanopoulos this morning, Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., a surrogate for the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., raised the age and health of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., when discussing the qualifications, or lack thereof, of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
McCaskill said she stood by her remarks that she’s “uncomfortable with anyone, regardless of gender, that is going to be vice president to one of the oldest presidents we’ve ever had that has never met a world leader.”
When Stephanopoulos asked her it was fair to raise McCain’s age, McCaskill doubled-down and mentioned his past skin cancer, saying, “I think what we’re talking about is a reality. Other people talk about his melanoma. We’re talking about a reality here that we have to face. This is someone who’s going to be one heartbeat away from the presidency. All of us know it. I just think that it’s the facts, George, and that’s something that we need to start focusing on, are the facts, instead of distortions and lies.”
Is age an issue in a presidential candidate? It could be, but McCain is hardly decrepit. His physical disabilities have nothing to do with his age, and his mind is as sharp as ever. In looking at both men, McCain seems to be thriving, while Obama seems to have aged years in the past few months. McCain’s 72 is a lot different than 72 would have been even 24 years ago, when the nation re-elected a 73-year-old Ronald Reagan to a second term.
While it’s not an illegitimate question, it’s not new, either. Voters have known about McCain’s age all through the electoral cycle, and he answered the medical questions in May when he released his medical records — something Obama has yet to do. His prognosis is excellent, and doctors pronounced him in fine shape, which certainly didn’t appear to shock his 96-year-old mother.
This smacks of desperation by Team Obama. They should have learned their lesson when they botched the e-mail ad. It makes them look like they’ve run out of arguments and have to go back to the ones that flopped on their first attempt.
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Seixon:
My mother had an aneurysm rupture. She surived {barely} but when they did surgery they discovered three more and clamped them off. She was never the same and passed away almost 4 years later. She was younger than either Biden or McCain.
I would say there is a very good chance that Biden could have something like that happen to him with his history.
Terrye on September 14, 2008 at 5:24 PM
If I remember correctly, Clinton’s hair got grayer the closer to election it got in 92 some conservatives made issue of it and it back fired. Team Obama could be trying to bait us?
jp on September 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM
I’m concerned that we are fighting a fight set up by the Obama campaign. We need to get people looking into “Obama’s lost years”. Why do we know nothing about his time at Columbia? Why can’t we get a look at his Harvard transcript? Why can’t we find out more about his friends in Pakistan, where he traveled just before going to Columbia?
This really is a “distraction”, but the obfuscation is coming form the left, not the right. Forget lipstick and oldness. Go after Obama’s history.
Buford Gooch on September 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM
This is what pure inexperience looks like. Returning to a dead non-issue.
Obama simply hasn’t had to run in a competitive race before.
Techie on September 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM
I KNEW IT!!!!
I had previously thought it was Zarek for the longest time, but lately I’ve been getting pretty big Cylon vibes from The One.
Woohoo! Obama’s a TOASTER!
powerpro on September 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM
jp:
Oh, I doubt that.
Terrye on September 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM
If we are to make age an issue in this campaign, then we have to note that:
1. McCain has about 20 years more work experience than Obama.
2. Given their ages, McCain has about twice the work experience of Obama.
.
Exit Questions: Is it just me, or is Obama’s hair VERY MUCH grayer than it was 2 months ago? Is there a stress issue here?
Arbalest on September 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM
He want us to boycott CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Oprah, the New York Times, the NAACP. So far, I don’t see any problems. with his suggestions.
IrishGirl17 on September 14, 2008 at 5:28 PM
For the old-man-on-his-last-legs argument to work, the prospect of Sarah Palin as president has to strike terror in the hearts of voters. Thus far, it seems that only Obama’s allies in politics and the MSM are terrified.
Is this really all they’ve got or are they just “Biden” their time until the ditch diggers return from Alaska?
Terrie on September 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM
So, what if old age becomes and issue, and McCain either dies or is incapacitated, after, say, 90 days in office, and Palin becomes Prez.
Is she really ready for that?
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM
I think in this case Hillary would get the top spot because she had so many votes in the primaries.
I think McCain/Palin would still win. Lots of us really loathe Hill.
Y-not on September 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Age is a fair question, certainly more so than speculation about the origins of Palin’s youngest son. That being said, enough already with the moral outrage everytime the issue of age comes up and quit bringing up momma McCain’s age as some sort of irrefutable proof that age is an non-issue because it isn’t. All McCain’s camp can do is precisely what they are doing by putting the best possible case forward that he’s in good health and his crankiness and temper tantrums are just his personality shining through (not any sort of senility or Alzheimer’s episode).
In short the age questions are legitimate, McCain’s taking the right approach to dealing with these repeated questions, and those of you who get upset that this is a recurring issue need to get over it and understand that it’s going to be around all through the campaign and into McCain’s presidency if elected.
highhopes on September 14, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Just like a Dem: bringing a melanoma to an aneurysm fight.
Jim Treacher on September 14, 2008 at 5:32 PM
McCain has a pretty good sense of humor. He ought to respond by saying he suggested to Palin that, in the event he dies while in office, she should consider Biden for her VP.
Dusty on September 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I sometimes try to think like a liberal. But is it depressing. What it takes to think like a liberal…Ok maybe THINK is the wrong word. What does it take to become a liberal
1) I give up free thought
2) I foregt all of history, because what ever happened before whatever I said before does not matter.
3) Learn that as a liberal my idea of diversity is everyone thinks like me.
4) Learn that everything amerika does is wrong.
5) I give up self relience to the government because obviously I can not think for myself.
6) I call people who question me racists.
THIS REALLY DOES HURT
7) I learn that any minority who could possibly not be liberal is still a slave.
8) I learn to blame amerika when a terrorist blows up innocents. It just has to be amerika’s fault.
9) I hate my parents because they tried to teah me manners and respect for others. Well maybe liberl parnts don’t teach that.
And the big one.
I LIVE IN CONSTANT FEAR OF KARL ROVE.
DVPTexFla on September 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Ha! That’s a rich mental picture right now….
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM
It seems to me McCain will live to a ripe old age considering (a) the resilience of his mother, and (b) all he has been through in his life.
I sat with my 10 year old son last night (who is a military history buff), and together we watched Faith of My Fathers. I’ve complained about McCain’s political actions in the past, but damn, he’s got will and determination!
I actually found myself making mental comparisons between his experience and the Passion of the Christ. Yes, I know his POW experience doesn’t match that of Christ’s crucifixion, but it gave me the same lump in my throat nevertheless. I think all Americans should see this movie, or read the book.
ErinF on September 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Noooo… this is a central argument for this election:
Primary criteria for the next President:
1. Has met with world leaders and has the support of millions around the globe
2. Can promote Change as a Washington outsider
3. Has the ability to inspire millions by his mere presence
4. Is a talented orator
5. Supports our nations children
6. Can bridge the racial divide in our nation
So, I hope that you will all join me in abandoning the senseless arguments and promote Hope and Change.
Join me in electing Michael Jackson as the next President of the United States
Damiano on September 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Never. Obama is multi-racial, not black. Were it a Republican candidate with a white mother and a black father the left would be screaming that the candidate couldn’t call themselves black.
highhopes on September 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Is ANY vice-president ready to occupy the Oval Office under those circumstances? Probably not. Nor is executive experience the end-all qualifier for the presidency – even though Palin has more actual, hands-on executive experience than any of the other three.
There is also character, strength of heart and sound judgment – all of which Sarah Palin has in abundance and Obama sorely lacks.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Any else ever notice how often Obama blames his various gaffes on “lack of sleep”? If the man can’t even deal with the stress of the election, how on earth is he supposed to handle the day-to-day pressure of the presidency?
Is he planning on skipping the G8 (soon to be G7 again hopefully) so he can have nap and milk time?
darury on September 14, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Older folk vote, and they will not enjoy this tack if it goes on too far.
Anyone over 70, and obviously still alive, will wonder why their lives seem so endangered considering they just kicked fanny in a golf, bingo, tennis or swimming event…or enjoyed a great buffet or whatever makes a person feel young and alive.
Team Obama may be left with a turnip in their hands come a few weeks from now, as much panic as they’re exhibiting.
By the way, would a better response to McCaskill talking about inexperience be “Obama” or “Biden”?
Shivas Irons on September 14, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I think the strong reaction you are detecting as outrage comes because we live and work in an era where we are taught by our employers’ HR gurus not to consider things like age or family status (children) when hiring. While it is true that electing someone is not the same process as hiring (voting properly incorporates a lot more “gut” feeling, imho), it still seems bizarre to me that someones age, rather than their health, should be a factor.
Remember, the constitution does not specify a maximum age, just a minimum one. I wonder why.
Y-not on September 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
…and even when people seeking office are 100% black Republicans, they get pelted with Oreos and are called Uncle Toms by the “tolerant” and “enlightened”. The racism on the part of libs is unbelievable, and it’s never questioned for some reason.
ErinF on September 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Again, they already have the youth vote; they’re only alienating everybody else above the youth demographic.
Stupid!
PattyJ on September 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Hummmm McCain is old and decrepit but since June 1, it is Obama that has taken two vacations to get his batteries re-charged while McCain has just campaigned.
Jdripper on September 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Senator Claire McCaskill, cited by the New York Times to be among the seventeen most likely women to become the first female President.
Perhaps a little jealous there Claire?
try again later on September 14, 2008 at 5:40 PM
It’s the part b) that worries me, as the stress effects of the battering he took in Nam, the fights in the Senate, the fights with cancer, are cumulative, and are more likely to shorten his expected lifespan.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Is Obama any more ready?
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 5:40 PM
McCains Mom is awesome! Her twin sister IS still alive.
Read this article titled
THE FIRECRACKER
http://www.style.com/vogue/feature/080108VFEA/
ordi on September 14, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Is Obama?
IrishEi on September 14, 2008 at 5:41 PM
To be a liberal you would also have to believe that human nature is mutable and the only power in the universe that can create the New Man and the New Woman is the Government (controlled by enlightened liberals, of course)
Oh, and it helps if you have abandonment or male authority issues.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:41 PM
People,
If McCain somehow mysteriously died in office, Sarah just has to pick Fred Thompson as her Veep.
End of discussion.
Sapwolf on September 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Small edit:
Arbalest on September 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I love this.
The stupidest thing the Obama campaign could have done, was to attack the VP candidate.
It’s such a beautiful trap in so many ways.
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I don’t think Palin will be able to stand up to a Democrat congress. A Pres. Palin may even capitulate faster than a Pres. McCain.
Convertacon on September 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Besides his overall good health and good genes, McCain is a main with a sense of purpose. That tends to favor longevity.
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I sense a dark disturbance in the Force…
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Okaaaay…. so then Palin will step in. Problem solved. And yes, I trust her more to run the country than the terrorist-enabler.
ErinF on September 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM
What does your golden retriever think?
Y-not on September 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Well, perhaps. Perhaps that is enough. For me, not. She is not ready right now, and will take a fair amount of seasoning to get ready.
The best presidents – the one’s we trust – are/were all old hands, with shiploads of experience in different arenas. Their good judgment was based on both character and experience – one without the other doesn’t cut it.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM
What a bunch of nervous Nellies.
Or trolls?
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Convertacon on September 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Well, since the VP is such an important position these days, perhaps her VP pick would put her in the game.
Who would you have her pick?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Then, we just need to get out the vote for the GOP to retake the congress from the current one which, to my knowledge, has a WHOPPING 9% approval rating.
ErinF on September 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM
His hackles are up and he’s growling. That only happens when…*shudder* trolls are nearby
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM
This all seems a bit morbid to me.
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Nope, and that is why this whole election makes me nervous. Experience and character only reside in one candidate, and he may or may not survive the rigors of office.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Joe Biden: 66; two brain aneurysms. Almost died in surgery for one.
Barack Obama: Chain-smoker; only released a one page summary of his health. Mother and father both died relatively young.
——
It is fun to watch Team Obama and their co-horts, the Media, in a total out-and-out panic. (They know it will be even worse once the debates start.)
Bill and Hillary Clinton are laughing; enjoying this Democrat melt-down spectacle. They are calling up Democrats and Press, yelling “ToldYaSo!”, then hanging up quickly and laughing some more.
albill on September 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Then I guess you’ll be sitting out this election, yes?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Why is everyone so quick to throw out the “T” word when someone throws a fair challenge?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
The Thompson suggestion is an interesting one. At this point, though, anyone strongly opposed to shamnesty.
Convertacon on September 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Pessimistic Answer: She’s at least equal to and arguable more read than Obama. The difference is, in order for there to be an issue on the McCain/ Palin side, McCain has to die. In order for there to be an issue on the Obama/ Biden side, Obama has to live.
Optimistic Answer: Yes. She is a Governor, just like the majority of former Presidents throughout history. Unlike many of these former Governors/ Presidents, she’s accomplished more in her first 2 years as Governor and has significant prior political history and executive experience.
Damiano on September 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I am rally fkking tired of being called a troll when I question the CW here, or as I like to call it, the un-thinking group-think.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I’m trying, but polling seems to suggest it’s nearly impossible (thanks Mark Foley!). I’ll be praying for the coattail effect.
Convertacon on September 14, 2008 at 5:51 PM
No one is being accused of trollery.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:51 PM
So, from that perspective, which is the better gamble? Electing a President who has experience and character or allowing someone to occupy the office for 4 years who is a guaranteed failure?
Damiano on September 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM
No one called you a troll. Why so defensive?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Convertacon on September 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Can you imagine a Palin presidency teamed up with a strong minority conservative that was “strongly opposed to shamnesty”?
Imagine her ability to go over the heads of Congress. It would be like a Bruce Lee film.
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Back to the issue at hand: will you be sitting out this election?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM
I heard polling over the last 2 days that says we have a realistic shot, because of the coattails.
ErinF on September 14, 2008 at 5:54 PM
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:51 PM
That’s how I read it. How do you read it?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Yes, she is a governor, and yes a mayor. No, I would contend she has not accomplished more in 2 years than they did. You’d have to back up that kind of assumption with more than an assumption.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:55 PM
DTU was just raising a question – not mang any accusations. You know, just like Obama was using a legitimate metaphor when he talked about putting lipstick on a pig.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Everyone is nervous. What’s the point of dwelling on it and letting the other side (who does read this site, you know)sense anything amiss?
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
bullshit, jockitch. And no, I won’t be sitting out this election, I’m trying to clearly think through what my response will be.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
So will you be sitting out the election?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
The Obama campaign is digging around at the bottom of their bags of tricks…none of the others have worked well, most have backfired. What Team Obama fails to realize, again, and again, is that there is no there there when it comes to Obama’s experience, ability to manage, ability to lead…seems a new crisis each few days in the Obama campaign is what we should expect over the next 7 weeks. Each crisis brought on not by McCain/Palin but by infighting within the Obama campaign.
Desperation? Yes. Defeated? No. Not yet.
Waiting for more purple states to go to McCain in the coming weeks. Then will look for Democrat congressional candidates trying to distance htemselves from Obama.
We’ve a long way to go.
This “age” question…the last gasp of a doomed campaign.
Hope? None. Change. Likewise, none.
Other than that Hope and Change thing….what’s Obama really got?
coldwarrior on September 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Well, FoxNews is doing a special on Palin starting at 6 Eastern time, laying out her political background. Everyone should watch and then judge from there. At least they won’t be throwing knives at her like Gibson.
ErinF on September 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
That is so true! How do you get something like that to go viral?
JustTruth101 on September 14, 2008 at 5:58 PM
So maybe I have this all wrong, and I actually have two thoughts on this:
Wouldn’t a presumptive “President Palin”, (in the event-) have a tremendous cache of advisors to help her (I mean, the Dem’s are always screaming that Dick Cheney and Karl Rove run the show anyway) and isn’t the next in line to be VP if something were to happen, Nancy Pelosi? Are the Dem’s really saying that Ms. Pelosi isn’t ready to be VP?
And lastly- Have they seen McCain’s mother? Her life has been anything but easy. I’d vote for HER over Obama.
anniekc on September 14, 2008 at 5:58 PM
My flabby tabby agrees.
If they are hanging about, apparently it does them little good. They can’t understand conservatives, but we understand them.
Good post about this at neoneocon:
Y-not on September 14, 2008 at 5:58 PM
My curiosity is piqued. Given the partisan nature of news sources, from where do you get your news?
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Sorry if I offended anyone. It just seems that there has been a lot of pessimism and worry just when things have been looking up for our side. I just wondered if it all was legimate or if the other side is sending out Tokyo Roses.
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 6:00 PM
I’ve long considered that event two years ago as the “rebranding” of the Republican Party. Not the sex stuff necessarily, but that all that “party of corruption” trash. When Republican party affiliation trumps Democrat again(and its consistent), I’ll be able to rest easy.
Convertacon on September 14, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Whaaa…? Are we in a war where letting the enemy see our deliberations demonstrates weakness? We are Americans in an election year, a crucial election year, and taking purely partisan positions is far more harmful. I’d hope that here, unlike the ‘other side,’ we could have some rationality in our arguments, rather than cheerleading.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM
When a lib says McCain is too old, I can only think of one appropriate response that is of the same caliber of the argument.
I’d say “Well, Obama is scrawney and has big ears. Neener Neener Neener. Pthhhhht!” Then I’d throw a dirt clod at them and put a frog down their pants.
Easier then expecting a lib to grow up.
kurtzz3 on September 14, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Or hand-wringing.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 6:03 PM
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM
So what?
Many times, people that say something uncomfortable are too quickly accused of trolling.
It turns the “troll” label into milquetoast. I can’t stand trollers. Why not reserve it for when it is appropriate?
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM
There is a time for everything.
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM
What is it with the argument that since Palin has never met a world leader she is not ready to be president. I wish when Charles Gibson mentioned that during her interview she should have said, “So that is why Obama went to Europe”. How many past presidents and vice presidents never met a world leader before they took office? I bet many.
bigtallgoo on September 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Well the other extreme is she shuts down the federal givernment for the 3 years 364 days 23 hours and 45 minutes of the McCain Presidency all the doomers and gloomers are selling….
*whiffle*
sven10077 on September 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM
I’ll tell, but you first.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM
to the point I feel as though I’m in a ’70s Palmolive commercial…
sven10077 on September 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM
If I follow your posts, you think Obama is not qualified, so you are not advocating we vote for him. You think McCain is qualified but that he is likely to die (or whatever) in office, leaving an unprepared Palin.
What course of action do you recommend?
(a) McCain replaces Palin with another VP nominee
(b) Voters choose from one of the third party candidates
If (a), whom should McCain choose and when should he do this?
If (b), whom do you recommend?
Y-not on September 14, 2008 at 6:08 PM
I’m from MO, and no one likes that old sea hag Claire McCaskill, we can’t wait to get rid of her- and she won’t mind because she has delusions of life in the White House, anyway. Don’t give any of her opinions a moment of worry.
anniekc on September 14, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Indeed there is,
a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
We so often have to decide what time it is.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 6:09 PM
the truth is, as buckley said, that we’d be better off with the first 200 names in any given phone book running the country than the politicians we currently have. Palin is way better than the new bi-racial messiah, (the soros sock puppet) or his plagiarizing prophet
right4life on September 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Dear Mr. Obama: Who Are You?
Yakko77 on September 14, 2008 at 6:12 PM
we’re in a war with the left-wing wackos in this country, and their allies, radical islam.
right4life on September 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Yes, she is a governor, and yes a mayor. No, I would contend she has not accomplished more in 2 years than they did. You’d have to back up that kind of assumption with more than an assumption.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Name anyone in government who has accomplished more than Palin on issues of:
- Energy
- Government Reform
- Budget Reform and turning a deficit into a surplus that quickly.
- How many Governor’s have sent budget surplus checks back to the people of their State?
That’s the bigger issues. As mayor she also has first hand understanding of:
- governments role in community development, city management, expanding businesses, tax base and revenues, crisis and disaster management, etc.
Yes, she has a weakness in complex foreign policy, but is not new to international negotiations. As she described in her Gibson interview (as was diligently edited out), she has be the central person in negotiating the deal with Canada for the new pipeline and was involved with other issues and negotiations with Canada, since Alaska shares a massive boarder with this country. Day to day issues would be boarder control, trade, etc. that simply go with the job. Conpare that to:
- Clinton- Arkansas? Really… are you kidding me? Arkansas is the POOREST state in the nation and has ZERO to do with trade or negotiations even domestically, never mind internationally
- Reagan- CA- tiny little shared boarder with Mexico that, in practice, is left entirely open. Highest population, most mismanaged economy in the nation. Birthplace of all the government regulation. Still, Reagan did a good job in CA, comparable to Palin over a longer period of time. Since he left, CA might as well be China.
Damiano on September 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM
AMEN! I remember in her election…city of st. louis and KC results came in last…they were waiting to see how many dead people they needed to vote to give her the victory. those ACORN scum, and the dems in those city are crooked as hell.
right4life on September 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Exactly!
Disturb the Universe on September 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM
He took drugs when he was young. He smokes. His mother died from cancer at a young age. His father was an alcoholic. He refuses to share his medical records. If I was Barry I would avoid any references to age, early death or infirmities. He also should bring out the medical records. What is in there that he’s hiding?
UnEasyRider on September 14, 2008 at 6:16 PM
I overheard some neighbors discussing the candidates at our community pool who dismissed Palin as too young and inexperienced, especially to be the proverbially “one heart beat from the presidency”>
We all know how inexperienced as far as executive capability Obama is in contrast to Palin.
The discussion had me doing some mental math while I floated on my noodle, Billy Jeff Clinton, 62, was 45? 46? when he ran for president 16 years ago. He had been governor of Arkansas.
Now tell me: Given the puny difference in “starting age” between Clinton and Palin –who is not even running for president, how in the world do the responsibilities of a governor of Arkansas begin to compare to those of one from Alaska? The latter involves responsibility for a larger land mass, overseeing a larger budget, reckoning with huge trade and energy issues, being vulnerable geographically to a less-than-friendly nation and having a wide coastal area rife with potential security and commercial concerns, etc.
Now maybe Billy Jeff belonged to one of those elite groups like the CFR that supposedly gave him gravitas and thus catapulted him into the White House. Nevertheless, his Arkansas under his governance had/has many more issues with corruption and contrast mightily to the reforms that Palin was able to initiate and enact in a short time.
onlineanalyst on September 14, 2008 at 6:16 PM
bigtallgoo on September 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Also, it’s important to note, that the Gibson interview skewed her response with some slick editing:
Gibson-Palin Interview…The COMPLETE Transcript
Saltysam on September 14, 2008 at 6:17 PM
How things have changed. 72 would have been considered old to very old a generation ago, now since doctors are keeping people alive longer, it is not that old. Someone Obama’s weight would have been considered pretty optimal a generation ago and now, because Americans are getting so damned fat, he is considered to be skinny.
KentAllard on September 14, 2008 at 6:18 PM
In another thread you wrote the following:
I asked you to enumerate instances where Limbaugh or Hannity engaged in fabrications or smears. You never responded.
In this thread I asked you to name your news sources three times and you answered with a question.
Gotta cut this short…the dog is growling again.
ManlyRash on September 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Thanks for taking time to understand.
a) He should not have picked Palin, not yet. She’s not ready, yet.
b) He should have taken Mitt or at least Thompson.
Neither would have excited the base nearly as much, but at the greater risk of losing he would have been keeping the interests of the country more at heart than simply the interests of winning.
I understand the flip side, that winning itself is a service – perhaps.
The whole reality for me is McCain chose on a whim, and it is starting to come out that Palin does not think exactly like he thought she did (earmarks comes to mind). And while she has great political instincts, she also has a tendency to surround herself with yes-men (persons), which is a huge red flag. But mostly, she simply doesn’t have a record to judge from concerning what she will do in important situations outside of abortion. She is still in development, and the recent past is not necessarily a good guide to the future. McCain, well, he will never change.
trailboss on September 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Actually, it was the neighbors at our community pool, not the candidates. (D##n misplaced modifier!)
onlineanalyst on September 14, 2008 at 6:20 PM
he also refuses to release his records from columbia, his LSAT, and his records from harvard….it would be VERY interesting to see them…and to investigate his connections to see how he got into these schools.
right4life on September 14, 2008 at 6:20 PM
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