New animal rights ad: Hey, Palin’s a savage who enjoys seeing animals suffer
posted at 3:21 pm on September 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Fun and games from the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, casting our heroine in the role of a cartoon sadist. Consider it a complement to WaPo hyperventilation last week about why she increased spending for teen moms by “only” $3.9 million instead of $5 million: An expansion in funding doesn’t fit the stereotype of Republican heartlessness, so they distorted the facts to make it sound like she cut funding by $3.9 million. The same Snidely Whiplash effect is on display here but this time it’s a sin of omission rather than commission, leaving the 99 percent of viewers who’ve never heard of aerial wolf hunting to wonder why anyone would be so cruel.
Answer: To feed people. Slate’s Explainer explains:
Aerial shooting yields better results than traditional hunting, since it allows the hunter to cover a lot of ground quickly and track target animals from a clear vantage point. Historically, hunters also used planes to drive animals—polar bears in Alaska and elk in Montana, among others—toward gunmen waiting on the ground. But many hunters found the practice unsportsmanlike, since it violates the “fair chase” ethic, and animal rights activists call it inhumane, since airborne gunmen rarely get a clean (i.e., relatively painless) kill. In response to concerns like these, Congress passed the Federal Airborne Hunting Act of 1972, which made it illegal for hunters to shoot animals from a plane or helicopter.
The federal legislation (PDF) does have a loophole for predator control, permitting state employees or licensed individuals to shoot from an aircraft for the sake of protecting “land, water, wildlife, livestock, domesticated animals, human life, or crops.” (This doesn’t just apply to wolves; coyotes and foxes are sometimes gunned down from aircraft, especially in Western states.) Since 2003, Alaska has issued aerial wolf-hunting permits in select areas where moose and caribou populations are particularly endangered. The idea is that by killing the predators, the airborne gunmen can ramp up the number of moose and caribou that human hunters can take home for supper.
They killed 124 wolves this way over the winter, one-tenth the total amount trapped in Alaska each year. Estimated number of wildlife saved thus far: 1,500 moose and 3,000 caribou. But the idea that Palin gets her rocks off blowing away wolves from low-flying planes is much more compelling, so here you go, all pesky nuances pertaining to motive removed. Don’t hold your breath waiting for the media outrage over LIES!!!1! to explode over this the way it has over McCain’s ads.
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I think HotAir should put upinak on salary. You could be the Greta Van Susteren of the blogosphere. Reporting directly from the scene.
D0WNT0WN on September 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I prefer tuner fishing.
JiangxiDad on September 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM
upinak, start providing links to what you’re talking about or just admit your liar…
Here’s mine…
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Alaska_Wolf_and_Bear_Protection_Act_%282008%29
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I like my day job. Thanks though!
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Cool AD, when are her opponents going to start attacking her?
Oh, that’s what they were trying to do? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What, am I supposed to be against this or something? No Really.
Russell H. on September 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM
That voice over womans voice was just dripping with contempt.
ctmom on September 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM
I’m glad everyone (or most everyone) here is ecstatic about this latest news, but this isn’t going to play well (as Y-Not said) with suburban moms and others. Anyone know how extensively this is playing?
amerpundit on September 12, 2008 at 3:56 PM
True, but I think most folks tend to anthropomorphize animals higher up on the food chain. Wolves (predators) are more intelligent than moose (prey).
And, there’s a difference between seeing/accepting an animal that is already dead and connecting a living, running, howling animal to its death.
I think these sorts of images, whether they be in nature programs or a TV ad, are very powerful. That’s why they are an effective fundraising tool for environmentalist organizations.
I’m not defending this ad, just saying I think it could be effective with some people.
Y-not on September 12, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Upinak, send me some wolf meat!
Sakaki on September 12, 2008 at 3:56 PM
I did, go back in the other part of the thread and read.
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Pthbbbb! Ariel hunting. We want para-hunting!! Swoop down in those kite suits!!
Coronagold on September 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM
As long as we can hunt leftist, Peta and other animal rights activist.
SURE!!!
Kini on September 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Kill a baby.
Save an animal.
Rick007 on September 12, 2008 at 3:58 PM
gross. Wolf meat is very nasty gamey tasting.
How about some seal?
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 3:58 PM
second time posting it.
Call me a liar again there toots!
http://www.elections.alaska.gov/96oep/ballot3.htm
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Good point, the PETA crazies wouldn’t think of voting for McCain anyway.
Five Guys Burgers and Fries? They just opened one up here….
ctmom on September 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Catch pregnant wolves and abort their litters. If any survive, throw them on a pile of dirty linens.
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I suppose. I used to hunt with my dad when I was a kid.
His philosophy was a simple one – unless you are dispatching a varmint that’s eating your crops or lifestock – if you kill it, you eat it.
If you can’t eat it, or if there is no one else whose freezer would not benefit from from it, then don’t frickin’ kill it.
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
kam582, would you please take me predator hunting? I’ve been interested for years!
I don’t understand how libs can be for “animal rights” but not for “[unborn] human rights.” It baffles the mind. A wolf is just a wolf, but if it’s infringing on my ability to survive, it’s a gone’r.
freedom_nut on September 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
You have not cited one outside link yet so please GTFO or STFU…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:00 PM
What’s it taste like? How do you cook it?
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM
What the hell is their point? Do they live in Alaska? Do they even have any concept of actual wilderness? All these morons live in concrete jungles where the only animal life they see is some rich bitch’s pampered toy dog.
Go live in Alaska, or any other wilderness for a year then come back and make your sorry ass ad.
darwin on September 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Ninja, can you not look… FFS HERE posting it a THIRD DAMN TIME.. since you are too damn stupid to breath or go back.
http://www.elections.alaska.gov/96oep/ballot3.htm
Now go back to your obama blog on your name.
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I enjoy your posts — and your collie’s.
I’m hoping to adopt a collie soon. I’ve finally convinced my hubby, who has never had a dog, that we should get one. The clincher in convincing him was that they are so politically astute.
:-)
Y-not on September 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM
What’s the best way to cook whale blubber?
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Yet they don’t complain about all the birds being killed by the Windmills they put up to get energy.
Rbastid on September 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
BINGO!
rightside on September 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
My golden retriever says:
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
That’s what Barry meant by “gloves off”… what he calls “swiftboating”. Except the Swift Boat people did not distort anything.
AlexB on September 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
The seal that is given to me is usually dried (like the fish up here which they call Eskimo Candy) and the fat is rendered to an oil.
You put salt in the oil since the oil has no taste and the seal is pretty much tasteless. It isn’t bad, just bland.
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM
No clue, I have had it raw. I am also not Native.
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
We fully agree, so long as the animal is killed quickly, and doesn’t suffer. Nothing, but nothing makes me hate people more, than when they mistreat animals, except the terrorists, who are animals, and who make people suffer like that, and those who abuse children.
Entelechy on September 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Bounties for wolves? Who’d'a thunk it!
Severed foreleg? How cruel…about as cruel as bringing in whatever mandated part of the predatory animal as proof of a kill where’er such bounties are and have been introduced. Added the world “severed” does add a bit of drama, though.
…wildlife management…what a concept!
A good counter-ad might be to examine what these “defenders” and their organization advocate to regulate predators, or if they advocate regulating them at all. It might be a good idea to examine where they get their funding.
I wonder if this is another of those suburban east/west coast “feeling the pain of Mother Earth” orgs who never seem to worry about the facts on the ground, or ever bother to consult with landowners and citizens in the areas they intrude their heart-felt politics into.
Sure…this sounds all blood-thirsty in Berkley or Westchester County, but wildlife management is a necessity when wildlife is more than a furry face on a National Geographic cover or in a zoo.
Maybe these “defenders” would get behind an effort to gather all of these nice, furry wolves up and resettle them on the North Slope, near ANWR. I hear that there’re lots of caribou up there for them to chow down on.
Puritan1648 on September 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
upinak, you rock. Thanks for all the insight.
Spirit of 1776 on September 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM
No fresh seal meat? What about whale meat? Ever had that? What does it taste like?
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
ManlyRash, I’ve debated with myself over “you kill it, you eat it” too, because I live in California, and G*d knows we’re better than the rest of you!
/sarc
But then I nearly used the 12-gauge one night on a rat beside my house. He wasn’t eating our “crops” and we own no animals, so does that mean it has the right to live?
Answer: it’s a freakin’ rat, kill as many as you can…and don’t eat them. If you can have fun killing them, then all the more reason to mix work and fun.
The rat in my story was infringing on my ability to sleep, but I wanted to kill him for being a rat, not for waking me up.
freedom_nut on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Ummmmmmmmmm……….. didn’t Mr. Obama thwart the efforts to supply medical attention to humans who survived an a late term abortion so they could be killed?
……….. and now he is concerned about wolves?
Anyone want to make a Political Ad about that?
Seven Percent Solution on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Are you retarded? You were talking about a ballot initiative from last month and completely distorted the result of it and now you provide a link to a decade old ballot initiative…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Alaskan irony: eating whale blubber with scrimshaw utensils.
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Goldens are nice, too, but I hear that they suffer from skin conditions… har har
Y-not on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Ariel hunting, wolf hunting, aerial hunting, whatever. What I want to know is her stance on Good Will Hunting. After yesterday, I personally am not opposed.
hoosiermama on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
He’s an idiot…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM
I worked on the North Slope for a bit and was invited to a Blanket toss with some Yupik natives. they had also just gotten a Bow head. it is impolite to not take some blubber. But let me tell you… blubber tastes like prime rib fat that has been sitting out for 6 hours… and it is like chewing blubble gum!
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Actually I am female and I am not the one whom has the Obama site on my name.
Who is the idiot again?
Get a Grip FFS!
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Rats are varmints. Kill ‘em all with Dad’s blessing. However, the shotgun is a bit much. Use a .22 calibre rifle.
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Ninja.. did you look at the DAMN DATE?!?!?
Jesus H. Christ, you don’t live up here. How in the world would you know WTF is going on… oh that is right google.
Whatever dude, you are a waste of freaking space.
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Depends on the lineage. ALWAYS purchase from a breeder with an excellent reputation. And make sure the pooch has an excellent family history. It’ll be expensive ($3,500 on average) but worthit. They are the most intelligent, most loyal, most playful, most friendly dogs I have ever encountered. And they really DO retrieve stuff.
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Really? Who won?
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Don’t they suffer from manly rash?
Y-not on September 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Next McCain ad:
“Would you rather kill a predatory animal to save other endangered animals and feed local populations, or kill a baby to avoid inconveniencing a teenager.”
cannonball on September 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
How far can you throw a blanket?
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
freedom_nut on September 12, 2008 at 4:05 PM
True too. I posted earlier on the coyote plight in California, since the fires. Of course we wouldn’t eat them either. Not against hunting, just against aerial hunting, which is often very cruel and has other consequences too.
Entelechy on September 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM
LOL!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalukataq
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Upinak, okay. Send me some caribou meat then. 100 pounds of it. So I can make caribou sausage. *beams*
Sakaki on September 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Good grief. No wonder I never see Alaskan Native Americans smiling in any of the old photos. These folks need a dose of Southern Italian cuisine. :-)
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Like what, falling out of planes?
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Ummmmm… how about NO!
Getting a Caribou and Moose for my 3 freezers is what I do. Meat for the winter!
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Only if they poop on the floor and I am obliged to Wooten them with a taser.
ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM
This needs to be put in perspective.
Show wolves, coyotes, mountain lions, wild pigs going after baby calves, people’s pets, and in some cases in California, joggers and or babies.
What would they say then?!?!?
Anybody sympathetic to the plight of the “poor wolf” needs to leave this job to the competent thinking adults/problem solvers of the world…US!!!
Domino on September 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Y-Not
I see your point, but I suspect that those who may have an issue with this are already not going to vote for McCain/Palin because of even more benign animal issues like simple hunting.
MNDavenotPC on September 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Yeah, check out this obama site…
http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/
You’re hopeless, I’m talking about a ballot initiative that went pro-aerial hunting last month and you’re talking about one that went anti-aerial hunting last decade… I’m not even from alaska nor am I much of a hunter anymore but this is pathetic…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
I hope she puts a bonty on terroists killed when she is Pres.
Cut off their you know whats.
Rick007 on September 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
We’re the Three Little Pigs and we approved this message.
The Ugly American on September 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
What if Upinak is the nom de plume of our Sarah.
/yer found out!
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
pro-aerial huntingpro-aerial wolf culling that is…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Pilot here, so wrong guess. More likely savagery.
Again, not against controlling the wolf population, just against the method, which is very cruel.
Entelechy on September 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM
(pardon me if I butt in)
Isn’t it usually eaten raw? I believe that is the case. It’s also an ingredient in fish “ice cream”, isn’t it?
…nummy…once you’ve a taste for it…
Here’s an argument for our vegan friends: the Inuit and others formerly-known-as-Eskimos have a diet (or did, pre-settlement) which was almost entirely meat-based…and they have incredibly robust health and aren’t “carnivore aggressive”, but are acually rather nice blokes, generally. Mind you, like suburbanites of generally European extraction, the bodies and especially the digestive tracts of Eskimos are predisposed to tasty high-fat pre-Atkins-diet comestibles.
So much for feel-good myths.
Puritan1648 on September 12, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Here’s some dinner music to go with your wolf
Kini on September 12, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Let’s face it. Many hunters are just out for the thrill of killing some animal and mounting their trophy on a wall. I’ve seen so many drunken hunters in the north woods of Michigan shooting at anything that moves (including me) that I was disgusted. I don’t know what the rural population density is in those areas where wolves are “culled”, but I suspect there’s more than enough moose or caribou to feed the locals. But the state derives revenue from trophy hunters, including those sportsmen who figure it’s easier to shoot an animal from the air than trek through the snow and brush. (Probably the same hunters who like their game herded to them or better, go to hunting camps where wild animals sit in a pen to be shot like ducks in a barrel.) Fortunately, I’m not a one issue voter or I’d sit this one out rather than vote for Palin. As it is, I like her in many respects, or at least way more than Obama/Biden.
NNtrancer on September 12, 2008 at 4:18 PM
As a lifelong hunter (well, since age 7 anyways), I’d be opposed to ariel hunting… but this isn’t hunting and not promoted as such. It’s population control by those qualified to do so. I don’t have a problem with it.
A quick, humane kill is always desired and usually achieved, but in the real world it doesn’t always happen be it hunting or predator control. Video that shows an animal being shot but not dying immediately (as they do in the movies) may be disturbing to some, but that’s sometimes reality.
A moose or deer that falls prey to a wolf doesn’t get a quick and painless death either, nor does the animal that starves to death due to overpopulation.
Hollowpoint on September 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Here’s my ad.
bloggless on September 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM
I don’t think you’ve read what the actual practice is… everything is monitored by the state… people are not hunting from the air…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM
“supports such savagery”…fine, lets make it a severed Al Queda leg.
LtE126 on September 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I try to understand what you wrote. Still…
One of the things that broke my heart very badly was watching and hearing the little penguins, outside of Melbourne, Australia, dying of starvation because their mothers didn’t return from the ocean, having been eaten by other animals.
We don’t have to add to nature’s cruelty.
Entelechy on September 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Read my first damn repsonse to you.
Did I NOT Say State Empoyees (Fish and Wildlife)
GOD you ARE a EFFING IDIOT!
Anyone else want to supposedly call me a LIAR? Good Lord..
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Nope not Sarah.
upinak on September 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM
The libs here- the blue state CT- (most of them as far as I can tell) don’t like hunting, they think that meat just grows in the grocery freezer. I grew up in south Louisiana. Hunted with my dad and male relatives (the only girl for awhile). Loved it. You have to control the population or the animals will starve. I’d rather cull the population than have them starve. Suvival of the fittest seems cruel sometimes- but then nature is “cruel”.
kareyk on September 12, 2008 at 4:26 PM
We fully agree, so long as the animal is killed quickly, and doesn’t suffer. Nothing, but nothing makes me hate people more, than when they mistreat animals, except the terrorists, who are animals, and who make people suffer like that, and those who abuse children.
- Entelechy
I agree completely. My father always said the only excuse for killing an animal is in self-defense or if you really need the food. People only shoot wolves for the fun and the trophy. He was particularly insistent on a quick kill so that there would be no suffering and, in fact, hated bow hunters for letting an animal just bleed to death. I used to hunt when I was a teenager, but no more. Compassion for living things is not an indication of weakness or a flaky leftist. It’s just an extension of love.
NNtrancer on September 12, 2008 at 4:26 PM
But if you were you’d say you weren’t, right? Your only option is to admit it.
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Upinak- do you have alot of Elk up in the great state of Alaska? I
kareyk on September 12, 2008 at 4:28 PM
I think the relevant question is whether the the Obama team is with these fools or wants them to stop?
My money is on ….with them. Yet another reason he can never be POTUS.
jukin on September 12, 2008 at 4:28 PM
sorry- love elk!
kareyk on September 12, 2008 at 4:28 PM
How does it go . . .
There is room for all of God’s creatures . . . right next to my red rice and fina’denne’ dinance.
geckomon on September 12, 2008 at 4:29 PM
“Palin outed as poster on Hot Air political blog,” -Us Magazine.
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Maybe a little off-topic, but I have a Golden Retriever, who is very loyal, playful, gentle, friendly, and obedient, such a joy to be around it’s insulting to call him a dog. One problem–he likes to bring us “presents”, like an old sock he found in the wash basket.
Gov. Palin will probably never hunt Golden Retrievers. They’re not really predators–at least mine isn’t!
Steve Z on September 12, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Funny, despite the “drunken bloodthirsty hunter” stereotype I’ve yet to encounter even one such hunter, and I’ve missed exactly one deer season in the past 25 years.
Had you bothered reading, you’d know that this isn’t about trophy hunting from an airplane, but state employees shooting for the purpose of population control
Hollowpoint on September 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM
“Opposition researchers for the Obama campaign are now pouring over every Upinak post on Hot Air to see what Palin has said in her many posts using her pseudonym “Upinak,” -Sean Hannity.
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM
I agree with the left in that think sport-hunting is barbaric.
As my Jewish-conservative parents used to say: killing shouldn’t be fun.
THAT said-I’m center-right libertarian who’s thrilled w/ the pick of Gov. Palin.
Hunting is a personal choice(I am a libertarian)-and I choose to think that it’s vile.
Animal rights and conservatism aren’t mutually exclusive.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2008 at 4:33 PM
just read the new post on HA re: 3rd part of Palin interview. I can’t watch that insufferable ass Gibson again.
kareyk on September 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM
You’re hopeless… maybe you need Obama…
ninjapirate on September 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I lived in Noank (right next to Esker Point) for a few years (talk about stranger in a strange land) and I loved the clueless misplaced anger towards hunters whenever the state sanctioned the “thinning of the herd” at Bluff Point.
geckomon on September 12, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Here’s an irony in an irony about my personal view on Palin:
I don’t much like hunting, unless its out of necessity. Just my opinion. Despite the fact that I’m a former Marine and current soldier, I don’t have the highest view of people who actually enjoy killing.
And no, I have no interest in the debate. It’s just my personal view, and it won’t be changing. That doesn’t mean I don’t respect hunters – or that I’d have any qualms doing it for food. But let’s just say I can at least understand where the animal rights wackos are coming from, however distorted their ad may be.
But here’s the irony: I’m not entirely sure, despite the above, that I view it as a negative thing if my President and Vice-President are hunters. That instinct … it seems like it might be a pretty valuable asset for a world leader.
I don’t want some namby pamby sensitive type leading my nation in time of war. I’m really not even sure I want somebody with my own views on the subject leading.
I want a warrior. Palin qualifies.
Professor Blather on September 12, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Sooo… too many wolves eat all the prey they can find, then starve to death for lack of prey. Is that vile too?
Akzed on September 12, 2008 at 4:36 PM
they do love their lobsters though! even though a 2 pound lobster is about 20 years old! hypocrits………
kareyk on September 12, 2008 at 4:37 PM
I’m also in CT, and the deer are multiplying like crazy here, and it seems like people go squirrel-hunting with cars–they’re squashed all over the roads, but there is never any shortage of live squirrels. Enough wild turkeys to make Ben Franklin smile with glee, and thousands of Canada geese who can’t find Canada, stay here all winter, and poop all over suburban lawns.
Maybe a little hunting would do us some good–we’ve had coyotes showing up in New Haven, and bear cubs in a children’s park near Hartford. “Now, sweetie, don’t pet the teddy bear, because Momma Bear might get mad!”
Steve Z on September 12, 2008 at 4:39 PM
As a wildlife biologist in the west let me reiterate:
This is predator control. We do it in Utah every winter from a helicopter to control coyotes and protect deer and elk herds. Although not one of the shooters myself, I have worked with several of the pilots who do this work. One time last year we saw a fox and he showed my just how skilled he was at cornering it with the helicopter. It was frozen and I could have gotten off a good shot. Clearly that is not always the case, but it does happen.
Also, the severed foot thing is a fun addition. here in Utah it is the tail. This is to prove there was a kill/take down of a predator, not to be overly gruesome. It’s proof. Period.
thomashton on September 12, 2008 at 4:39 PM
…excellent point.
Walt Disney’s folks did a great job of making kids like me (when I used to curl up in my jammies watch “The Living Desert” on “Wonderful World of Color”) aware of the wonders of nature. They gave us “Charlie the Lonesome Cougar”, and make us all want to pet his furry face…made him look like a big tan house cat. Better they showed us running down a buck and chowing down on his intestines…to add a bit of perspective.
No…with ol’ Walt’s boys, it was always just a setup for the “money shot” in wildlife “porn”: raccoons trashing a pantry.
“Humane” has little to do with hunting, other than it’s humans who do it. If they die in their tracks or they bend over double and gnaw their wounds, as in this leftist issue-driven wildlife porn, they are still dead. You can either kill them to cull and strenghten the herd, to limit the numbers of harmful animals (e.g., predators next to ranching or residential areas), or enjoy a “good day out” and come back with dinner in a tidy fur bag. Either way, the critter’s dead.
Dead is dead. Once he’s dead it’s a matter of how valuable you plan to make that death. An animal eaten, pelt used, etc. means that the death wasn’t wasted.
Humane is a tricky word. Sometime you have to track a wounded critter for hours…in Alaska, I can imagine, that might be days…and that being an animal shot with a modern, high-powered rifle in the hands of a skilled marksman.
No less a hunter than old Uncle Ted Nugent has had to take up a blood trail, when daylight fails, the next morning. It happens.
I remember, on exercise in the Army, putting up in a stand of nasty, slow-slung baby trees to wait for a helicopter pickup (which is not a rotary-wing redneck conveyance, but I digress). Seems we ended up in an old deer bedding site, and came upon ol’ Bambi’s dad (or brother-in-law or life-partner or someone), all decomposed to bits of fur and bones. The antlers were sawn off by a team-mate of mine to be used the next year for rattling. In short, we found one ol’ Uncle Ted (or whoever) didn’t find.
So, “humane” and “didn’t suffer” don’t really enter into it. By the same token, yuppie-hunter’s convenience and yahoo-hunter’s thrills shouldn’t enter into it, either. Most sportsmen know what I’m saying.
Think about this: not only do these gut-shot critters try to crawl off to die if your marksmanship is off; or die very slowly of starvation if there’re too many of ‘em, which is actually a regular in nature. Populations wax and wane, and Ol’ Mom Nature is a real bitch-on-wheels when her “children” get out of hand. But, think of a deer/caribou/moose/slow tourist kid run down by a pack of wolves. They’re still trying to get away when the big guys in the pack are dining on their entrails. None of this “killing bite” crap for wolves. You’re only brought down, and are still alive when they begin to tear you apart.
Puritan1648 on September 12, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Steve Z- don’t forget lyme disease. the mister has had it twice.
kareyk on September 12, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Of course I think it makes her seem even more cool, were that possible? (Assuming it’s true,) Bounties for wolf-paws? Sounds so 1800s. Totally awesome.
amkun on September 12, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Like I always say….if God didn’t want us to eat animals, he wouldn’t make them out of meat.
AZ_Mike on September 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM
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