Video: The Palin smears, explained
posted at 7:32 am on September 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Greta van Susteren hosted Brooks Jackson of Factcheck to explain and debunk some of the more resistant smears about Sarah Palin traveling through inboxes throughout the Internet. Jackson’s contempt for the top three lies about Palin comes through pretty clearly, perhaps none so much as the “bookbanner” smear:
At the end, though, he scolds the McCain campaign over its reaction to the “lipstick” comment, agreeing with Barack Obama that it referred to McCain’s policy rather than Palin herself. That seems to me to be venturing into opinion and not “fact” checking … but your mileage may vary.
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“If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you will ever know.”
Obi-wan Palin
sven10077 on September 11, 2008 at 7:36 AM
If the lipstick on a pig remark was ‘innocent’, we can call a spade a spade on Obama is so many areas….
Right_of_Attila on September 11, 2008 at 7:39 AM
Michelle Malkin will be on Fox and Friends shortly.
backwoods conservative on September 11, 2008 at 7:42 AM
I don’t recall anyone questioning that BO’s ’shoulder brush off’ and ‘checking his shoes’ – at the same rally that he seemed to give HRC ‘the finger’ – were not dismissive gestures. And he did so solely because HRC had performed better than him in a debate – not dismissed/insulted him.
So while BO disputes that his lipstick comments were not meant to be dismissive – we all know that he has made dismissive gestures before – and made them when he is upset about being bested by a woman.
That is why BO can not spin his way out of this – this time. Silly season my bxtt.
luckyz on September 11, 2008 at 7:44 AM
The laughter of the crowd tells the story. I’m 40 yrs old and have never heard that phrase pigs and lipstick. When I heard it I said he was speaking about Sarah and McCain with “reference” to them and policies. But with the pitbull lipstick comment very fresh in my mind, I immediately thought of Sarah.
Mercy4Me on September 11, 2008 at 7:46 AM
“Typical of Alaskan’s hands off attitude on social issues,
they wouldn’t of ah,the,constituants up there wouldn’t
like that”.
————————————————————
What the h#ll is that suppose to mean!
And,about the pig comment,it would of been no big deal,but
the joke by Governor Sarah Palin,”Whats the difference be
tween a hockey mom and a Pit Bull,is Lipstick”
To me,thats what Obama means,’Lipstick on a Pig!!
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 7:46 AM
Factcheck is good but it should stick to things that can plainly be stated as fact. The “pig” comment by B.O. is not so easily defined. It’s one of those things we will never know the “fact” on because we can’t be in B.O.’s head when he said it. For Factcheck to comment on the subject either way just cheapens what Factcheck is trying to be all about.
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 7:47 AM
Ed,
Geraldine Ferraro was also on with Greta last night. I though she was very unhelpful to Obama over the lipstick comment and his use of the race card and sexism all along. You should find that and watch it…
TheBigOldDog on September 11, 2008 at 7:48 AM
I believe Brooks Jackson when he says the “lipstick” comment was innocent.
I don’t believe my lying eyes.
Sarcasm//off.
__________
RJGatorEsq. on September 11, 2008 at 7:48 AM
Yeah right! I dread the day that someone with an R next to their name or in the McCain camp calls Owhiner a “spade”…You think the Don Imus deal was bad…yikes.
OSUBuciz1 on September 11, 2008 at 7:49 AM
… he scolds the McCain campaign over its reaction to the “lipstick” comment, agreeing with Barack Obama that it referred to McCain’s policy rather than Palin herself.
Yeah, he probably did mean Mac’s policy, but the timing was an example of bad “Judgement to lead!”.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM
Just saw her… god that lady is HOT!
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 7:58 AM
It is convincingly clear the lipstick comment was aimed at Sarah…
The fish comment, if you all remember the Palins’ did do a bit of fishing for salmon…both comments were aimed at her.
jerrytbg on September 11, 2008 at 7:58 AM
Fox: “Is McCain winning you over?”
Michele: “He’s not, SHE is.”
Damn right.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 7:58 AM
That’s my thought on it. I think the remark was ill timed, he could have used another analogy. Anyways, I think the right needs to stop going on about it, it’s making Palin (I don’t think she is at all!) look like a whiney victim.
4shoes on September 11, 2008 at 8:01 AM
If my facts are correct,on Letterman last night,
Hopeless and Changeless,said Sarah Palin was the
‘Lipstick’,and John McCain was the ‘Pig’!
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 8:01 AM
exactly. This comment either shows him as an a$$ or a fool. People can argue over which it is but either way he looks bad.
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 8:01 AM
… that lady is HOT! – 2arm
Isn’t she beautiful? It’s hard to pay attention to what she’s saying sometimes. A conservative, gorgeous woman with an incredible brain, that’s pretty damn sexy.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:01 AM
If BO were a teenage boy and he said that under the same circumstances, he would have been sent to the prinicples office. Does BO think we are stupid to beleive that he was calling Governor Palin a pig? If he thinks we are wrong, then he must think his audience of devoted followers are stupid and wrong, as well, because they all got his little joke.
bloggless on September 11, 2008 at 8:02 AM
I think that we should start a fundraiser. Everytime BO and his followers smear Palin, everyone of her supporters should donate to the RNC. Which is probably what is happening now.
bloggless on September 11, 2008 at 8:03 AM
Good morning CanOp! With all of this election stuff goin’ on here, we forget that your election season is gettin’ started up there too! Now, as our favorite canuck, we expect you to keep us informed on the race up north!
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:04 AM
MSM starting to “get” Obama? Straight talk:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26640489/
dtestard on September 11, 2008 at 8:04 AM
He still is in many ways.
m064404 on September 11, 2008 at 8:05 AM
Everytime BO and his followers smear Palin, everyone of her supporters should donate to the RNC. – Blog
Like a curse jar! Haha good idea!
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:05 AM
I do not believe for one minute that BHO just happened to trot out the worn pig/lipstick cliche less than a week after Palin’s much-quoted lipstick comment. Her joke was gaining traction and his comment was aimed right at her. This was no coincidence. And don’t give me the line about McCain using the same cliche. When McCain used it, it was only a worn out cliche and not a personal insult against Hillary. When BHO used it, he meant to personally insult Palin. Anyone who has ever been the parent of a seven year old can tell the difference without any problem.
ncc770 on September 11, 2008 at 8:06 AM
OK, if Obama makes a pitbull reference tomorrow, then will Jackson believe it’s a smear? I mean, come on. His audience got it. I know it’s a common expression, but one week after the most memorable line in Palin’s speech just happens to be about lipstick? Please.
Ronnie on September 11, 2008 at 8:11 AM
Of course the pig/lipstick comment from Obama was just more of the same monkey business that we see in modern politics. Oh my! did I say “monkey” and “Obama” in the same sentance? Do youthink any of the liberals will read something into that?
MikeA on September 11, 2008 at 8:11 AM
Michelle is indeed a very lovely lady. And her beauty is way more than skin deep.
I’ve noticed how she’s warmed up to Sarah. During the primaries she caught a lot of flak from some of her readers for being critical of all the candidates and not supporting any of them. That makes her support of Sarah all the more striking.
backwoods conservative on September 11, 2008 at 8:12 AM
Brooks Jackson of Factcheck looks only at the context of Senator Obama’s own words immediately before and after his lipstick comment.
But Jackson fails to examine the context of Obama’s body language, the crowd reaction to any mention of Governor Palin’s name, Obama’s lack of use of this phrase for over a year until less than a week after Palin’s lipstick joke, the use of pig smears against Palin in the days before Obama’s talk, and Obama’s previous sexist talk against Senator Clinton.
Examining all of the context, makes it clear that Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment was either an intentional slur, or a gaffe made by a man who is completely clueless about sexism.
Loxodonta on September 11, 2008 at 8:12 AM
Me thinks he doth protest to much. Obama that is.
Used to be, that the better man would say “I’m sorry if I offended you,” if he said something that offended others.
So why did Obama take the defensive route?
Keith_Indy on September 11, 2008 at 8:13 AM
The Arctic Fox is speaking at the send off of Alaskan troops to Iraq today. (Personally I think cold state troops ought go to Afghanistan) Her son
Trap…Trail… Track is on his way over there. Question, does he get Secret Service protection?Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:14 AM
Now this is a smear.
Ronnie on September 11, 2008 at 8:14 AM
Yep. Why do people act like words and phrases can’t have double meanings and in the context here, Obama was trying to insult Palin. It was immature. He got caught. And he’s act, Wadda I do? Wadda I do? is juvenile.
Blake on September 11, 2008 at 8:15 AM
yeah… but the skin deep part is pretty damn nice on it’s own.
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Factcheck.org is funded by Annenberg.
Dan Collins on September 11, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Barry knew what he was saying and intended to say it all along. He knew the reaction it would bring.
One simple reason: because we are talking about Him again!
He couldn’t stand not being in the spotlight when Sarah hit the scene. Barack? Barack who? For over a week it was all Palin.
And he just couldn’t stand it anymore. Even negative attention is still attention for him. He had to have that spotlight back, being the narcissist that he is.
My kitty says:
Et tu Brute on September 11, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Palin should find someway to incorporate a pig with lipstick as part of her routine.
Taking ownership of an image is one of the best ways to turn it into a strength.
It will also remind people of what Obama said, without making Sarah look like she’s trying to play the victim card.
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 8:18 AM
Poor Joe. No one even bothers to smear him.
Ronnie on September 11, 2008 at 8:19 AM
Good morning Canop..
Tony737 on Sept 11,2008 at 8:04AM.
Tony737: And goodmorning Tony,from your concerned nieghbor!
I would rather get a root canal,rather than pay
attention to our politics!
It seems that,one party digs up dirt,then they
dissolve the goverment,then presto,another
election!
The idiot liberal who is running for Prime Minis
ter said that Harper was following Bush’s policies!
And Harper,isn’t doin debates!
And you wonder why,Harper knows that Canadian MSM
is worse than America’s biased MSM!!:)
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 8:20 AM
question… do you have a point?
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 8:20 AM
There is one very salient fact that will be first and foremost in the voting booth in November that Barack Obama needs to worry about, but which I believe is beyond his capacity to accept at this time.
The truth matters much less in the consideration as to Obama’s intention concerning the lipstick comment. It is the perception in the voting public’s mind that counts when they pull the lever, check the box, or punch the chad. In politics and voting perception trumps fact.
Yoop on September 11, 2008 at 8:20 AM
As does the intended pregnant pause in the comment, waiting for response before delivering the anticipated punchline.
Midas on September 11, 2008 at 8:25 AM
It’s Thursday so you know what that means? A new Sarah Palin scandal.
chb03c on September 11, 2008 at 8:25 AM
I thought Dennis Miller had a solid point last night, Sen. Obama was not calling Gov. Palin a pig but that she is so much in his head that he says stuff that he know he shouldn’t.
CNN also had a “fact checker” on this morning and at the end of his spot he said that book banning list was a hoax but there was much to be said about the incident. And left it there. The implacation was HUGE. So it appears that these so called fact checkers need to stick to them.
Sorry, I feel bad about Sen. Biden’s gaffe, I thought he did a really nice job recover. How many people do you know that have asked a chunky lady “When are you due?”. That’s a mistake you don’t make more than once.
Cindy Munford on September 11, 2008 at 8:26 AM
Question, does he get Secret Service protection?
do you have a point? – 2arm
No, just a question. Does the son of a V.P. nom get a S.S. detail when he’s already surround by hundreds of the most well armed and well trained soldiers in the world and he himslf is one of them? If he finds himself in combat, will men in dark suits and sunglasses try to shield him? Just curious.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:32 AM
The media has, as expected, used B.O.’s Lipstick remarks to spin the story of “McCain’s overreaction” – I don’t watch much TV – but the line seems to be “this is stupid” or “this is a waste of time.”
I would imagine the folks at NBC etc. are feeling pretty smug right now…only one problem.
Everyone knows what he meant, even the people that claim not to. Look at their reactions and defenses. He has shown a pattern in this regard.
Expect the media to become even more flummoxed as his poll numbers continue to drop.
He’s becoming an insufferable bitch.
Dorvillian on September 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM
It’s laughable to believe that these people haven’t vetted every line before they say it. Obama made the equilivant of a bad joke at the wrong party, and he’s left with apologizing for a bad joke or explaining it away.
Of course in his circle, since he can do no wrong, obliviously it’s our fault we’re not laughing along.
itsspideyman on September 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM
I’ll chime in here about the “lipstick” biz:
FACTS are proven things, true things.
That does NOT exclude other things from also being TRUE.
AHH…the “art” of language.
The “suggestion” of Palin-is-the-pig is also TRUE as “proven by the audience’s reaction.
Different from “1 + 1 = 2″ or “did she or didn’t she” FACTS, but TRUE nonetheless.
Lockstein13 on September 11, 2008 at 8:37 AM
Obama/Biden is now a tainted brand. Will no longer sell to the general public. No refunds available. Dispose of safely.
Why?
Obama/Biden expected a conventional campaign. Charisma plus experience. Worked for Clinton, twice.
Once Obama did not choose Hillary…game on for the GOP. From that point onward, the GOP kicked up the campaign into high gear.
The best thing Obama could have done at the convention would have been to choose Hillary…can’t do that now without admitting defeat and retooling the entire Obama campaign. New Coke isn’t selling. The damage has been done.
Obama/Biden “gaffes” and GOP responses are part of the program. For the GOP, control everything Obama does, says. Own it.
The GOP has successfully gotten into the head of the Dem campaign braintrust. From this point forward (barring, of course, a GOP tragedy or realay really stupid move) the GOP owns the Dem campaign.
The Obama is in damage assessment/recovery mode. The Obama campaign will stay in that mode for weeks. Not a good place to be with 50 days remaining until the general election.
Is it over? Look at the trends in polling…especially for key demographics the Obama camp was looking to keep in order to secure key states. Look for the money stream to the Obama campaign to dry up. Look toward fewer, not more, Obama campaign stops. Look for key Dems to begin to distance themselves from the campaign. Over? Not yet.
52 days to go. Seven weeks is a long long time. Put the champagne on ice…but don’t start popping corks…yet.
coldwarrior on September 11, 2008 at 8:41 AM
I know it’s Off Topic, but the McCain and Obama campaigns are taking the day to observe the 7th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks…
…and no mention of this grim anniversary or the plans of the candidates on HotAir yet? No mention of how the country, and our President, will be observing this day?
I thought there’d be some mention, some homage paid, to this terrible event first thing in the morning to remind everyone of what day it is. To remind us that the fight against Islamofascism is still an ongoing battle.
I guess “Never Forget” has been forgotten?
SilverStar830 on September 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM
My opinion ranges from “yawn” to how pitiful they are getting. It’s like a fat kid playin dodge ball.
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Just heard the new Dem Campaign Song by the Talking Heads “Road to Nowhere”…
Skok on September 11, 2008 at 8:45 AM
I guess “Never Forget” has been forgotten? – Star
I’m sure Ed’s workin’ on something for 9/11. Be patient, it’s comin’.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Right_of_Attila on September 11, 2008 at 7:39 AM
True.
Tommygun on September 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM
Remember, Barry also followed the lipstick joke with the old fish joke…..the crowd got it: Sarah is the pig…and McCain the old man.
Get Barry more angry….he can’t handle it.
ex-Democrat on September 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Tell you what: Research that and get back to us.
I infer that you are calling Trap Palin a wuss. Well, I suppose you would be in an ideal position to recognize one.
__________
RJGatorEsq. on September 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM
If Barry Oprah wants to see lipstick on a pig, he justs needs to go home or call his biggest tv supporter.
Jaibones on September 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Perception, macaca — Defeated Allen didn’t it?
tarpon on September 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 7:46 AM
Alaska has a strong libertarian (lower-case “l”) streak. Pot was legal there for awhile. Their Supreme Court would have struck down a prohibition on same-sex couple benefits. And, just to show the good side of this, Alaska is one of only two states which allow general concealed carry with no permit required. (Left-liberal Vermont is the other.)
Tommygun on September 11, 2008 at 9:02 AM
my understanding is that neither of the candidate’s sons will get special priviledges. They won’t be able to do their jobs with protection of the Secret Service.
kareyk on September 11, 2008 at 9:02 AM
I infer that you are calling Trap Palin a wuss. – RJ
Whoa! What? You must be new here if you ‘infer’ that I think one of our soldiers is a ‘wuss’. Hold your knee jerk reaction and think first before you post. Nobody on this site respects the troops more than I and if you weren’t a newbie, you’d know that. And his name isn’t Trap, it’s Track. All the long time HotHeads know that I’m a huge admirer of the troops, please don’t try call me out like that, you’ll only end up looking silly.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Point made. Ms. Malkin has something on her own site.
Tommygun on September 11, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Someone over at Ace of Spades suggested that she should come out, begin to speak, stop, pull out a lipstick, apply it, and then say “Oink”.
Farmer_Joe on September 11, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Farmer_Joe on September 11, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Lovin’ it!!
Tommygun on September 11, 2008 at 9:06 AM
If you watch the longer video, as ran on O’Reilly the other night, it is crystal clear that the pig was Bush/McCain policies, not any particular individual, and certainly not Palin. Like the old dirty trick about spreading a rumor that so and so did unmentionables with animals, though, it is fun watching Obama deny it.
Xrlq on September 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Calm down. Your post came off as a bit insulting towards Track. Your Hot Air Cred doesn’t change that. You explained yourself so we all now understand you didn’t intend your original post to be insulting. Don’t get all bunched up because your original post was unclear.
twoarmman on September 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Palin should find someway to incorporate a pig with lipstick as part of her routine. – mark
Or maybe she oughta say “Ya know the difference between a socialist and a bucket of sh!t? … The bucket.”
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 9:11 AM
All that Palin (or McCain, for that matter) need to do is point out the dollar amounts of pork that Obama and Biden have secured recently (or over time), indicate that the two Dem candidates voted FOR the Bridge to Nowhere and rejected the amendment sending money for Katrina relief instead, and state that one of Obama’s pork projects gave his own wife a ?% increase in salary.
Then she should suggest that lipstick won’t undo that pork-larding history of her opponents. Only an extreme makeover would.
onlineanalyst on September 11, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Your post came off as a bit insulting towards Track. – 2arm
I don’t let ANYBODY challenge my loyalty to our troops, I used to BE one. If somebody needs to be set straight, then so be it. Sorry if anybody took my question about the S.S. as an insult to Track but that just means you didn’t read it carefully enough and had a knee jerk reaction. I love the fact that other Posters would come to his defense if he were indeed insulted, but anybody who reads the comments on HotAir on any sort of regular basis knows that I’m 100% behind our Troops.
Tony737 on September 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM
Xrlq on September 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Conservatives (esp., “traditional” conservatives–White, male, Christian, etc.) have had to walk on eggshells for decades, with every word analyzed for “latent” whatever, while others have gotten free passes. Now the other side knows what suffering a little PC is like. Very well done.
Plus, I think he knew what he was saying. You say, “lipstick” today in American politics, we all have the same thing come to mind. He was quick enough to catch his discussion of the “exp…” of Clarence Thomas, and thinking enough to dance around his “my Muslim faith” comment, but was oblivious to what he was saying there? Even I think he’s smarter than that.
Tommygun on September 11, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Michelle could look like a pig wearing lipstick, and I’d still think she was sexy; she’s so intelligent!
mr.blacksheep on September 11, 2008 at 9:21 AM
I’ve always taken FactCheck.org with a grain of salt.
They lost me with their dismissal of Obama’s connections to Tony Rezko. The actually use Rezko’s and Obama’s lawyers as sources to discredit any significant connection.
Sorry- I think that site has some definite political “leanings”. I would love to follow the money that supports its exsitence.
FiveWays on September 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Fact.
saint kansas on September 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM
No argument there!
backwoods conservative on September 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM
OBAMA’S LIPSTICK
FACT CHECK: Obama can neither apologize nor accept an apology.
FACT CHECK: OBAMA consistently fails to perform in a presidential manner or to speak as a gentleman.
FACT CHECK: Brooks Jackson is professionally linked to supporters of the Obama campaign.
maverick muse on September 11, 2008 at 9:34 AM
Re: the lipstick ‘gaffe.’ The thin-skinned Marxist is either boldly impolitic or else he should put a filter on that big yap of his.
whitetop on September 11, 2008 at 9:39 AM
FACT CHECK: Obama physique is not only frail and weak, but his body language is effeminite crossing his legs as a woman, and containing his elbows inward on his ribs.
Last night the MSM had David Letterman dragging in their man overboard, and there Obama sat “like a girly-man” doing his bad tricks again, this time featured as David’s pet chihuahua.
When Letterman told Obama, “My head hurts trying to comprehend everything your are saying!” it was LOL “You give me a headache!”
To finally get Obama to quit his stammering monotonous repetitious “AAAaaaand” Letterman cuts Obama off under his breath with, “That’s enough.”
The sham as a show deserves critique! Obama’s drowning and they send Letterman to save Obama’s credibility.
No one from Capitol Hill?
The Gays from Britain step up to the plate (see Ace).
Boy George “Yes We Can” Song Video
Sing Newspeak: No time to be Indifferent means Be Intolerant, Disrespectful and Criminal.
maverick muse on September 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM
I just don’t know what I would have done if you had used an s instead of a $. Thanks for shielding my virgin eyes.
This is the internet. You can curse if you want.
Xolom on September 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM
FACT CHECK: In no way whatsoever does Obama resemble the greatness of George Washington. Obama slipped his own deprecating confession of that fact when accusing all those who see Obama THE FRAUD of being racist.
maverick muse on September 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM
If we think PDS is bad now watch how bad it gets when Palin/McCain is elected.
It will be hard enough for the left to come to terms with their chosen one losing, but to have lost not because McCain was the better candidate but because a white conservative woman kicked his ass will drive them into fits of rage that will make BDS and Cheney hatred seem mild in comparison.
420sniper on September 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM
His intent is impossible to prove or disprove, just like when he said he “thought” about joining the military, a thought he shared for us recently, though it never made it into his two vainglorious autobigographies.
There’s an aggregate effect of these “innocent” remarks or gestures that seems clear to me. The double endendre is glaring given the contemporaneous joke, told before a national audience, by Governor Palin.
nyrofan on September 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Last night’s Michael Savage Show (caught by chance) opening featured interviews with psychologists who explicated Obama’s hatred of women. No one disputed that Obama hates women and suffers the Oedipus Complex as very deep Misogyny.
maverick muse on September 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM
I’d suggest being careful with that attitude. Some websites let profanity go unchecked, and some won’t put up with it. The moderators here have generally been letting it slide, but they don’t have to. Check the terms of use.
Over at MichelleMalkin.com, cursing will get you banned. She doesn’t put up with it.
backwoods conservative on September 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM
One of the things I like about this site is the fact that most people don’t use foul language or when they do, use symbols. You still get the point, but it doesn’t look like a Daily Kos comment thread.
4shoes on September 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM
In context, the remark that Hussein made was not directlyaimed at Palin. However, the cynic in me believes that he knew exactly what he was doing. He is coached and handled by the extreme Marxist left and they don’t do anything without a purpose. Using that language so close to the “hockey mom” speech was probably coldly calculated. If I were a McCain advisor, and this can be labeled 20/20 hindsight, I would have told him to ignore it and let the media report on it. The conservative talkers and blogs should also have ignored it. You have to know when to pick your fights and that was not one to pick.
Jarhead68 on September 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Obama’s COMPULSIVE snide and ugly behavior needs to be the topic, as lipstick is only one instance of his inability to relate with women in a positive and healthy manner.
Obama is not mentally stable enough to treat others with proper decorum. Regardless of circumstance, regardless of setting, regardless of context, Obama can not stop himself from insulting others and looks the fool for being so small. Obama is not presidential material. He is a fraud with no substance, no record, sealed transcripts and birth certificate.
The POTUS job description is above Obama’s pay grade.
Obama’s Executive Experience 2008
Wicked Witch of the Northwest:
Commander in Chief of Flying Monkeys
melting…
maverick muse on September 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Well said. The conservative websites need to set a good example, because the liberal websites sure ain’t going to.
backwoods conservative on September 11, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Your comment applies to many on the left. They think that making some snide comment about or to an opponent in a debate is an appropriate rebuttal. It’s how many (but not all) 10-year-olds behave. I’ve seen OhBlahBlah do this on many occasions, seeming to think that saying something nasty is going to convince people to vote for him.
Wrong
mr.blacksheep on September 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM
pick your fights..
jarhead68 on Sept 11,2008 at 9:59AM.
jarhead68: I understand what you mean,but the DNC
has delared war on Governor Sarah Palin,
and the liberals are the one’s that have
defined the rules of engagement!:)
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Hmm. Didn’t Coke bring back the “Classic” recipe? What happens if Obama tries to switch to Hillary? If he can pull it off (if she would accept is the bigger question), he will have pulled the surprise move factor away from McCain, AND also will bring back many PUMA’s. Just like I thought picking Hillary was his only chance before; I think it’s his only option now. But will his pride let him? Just imagine if he asks her (on the QT, of course), and she refuses but then leaks it! Game over.
Riffing on your point, onlineanalyst, another approach Palin could use would be to “forgive” Obama, and then stick the knife in again, as follows: “So maybe my opponent meant to call me a pig, and maybe not; I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. [pause--wicked smile] But there’s no mistake about where the pork is–my opponent requested $1B in earmarks while I was vetoing half a billion!”
Imagine the sh*tstorm there would be if someone said, “Did you hear about what the Obama campaign did to that girl scout troop? Wouldn’t even send them some stickers! Now that wasn’t just stupid, it was downright niggardly!” Then when the sh*t hits the fan from the usual quarters, bring on Julian Bond to save the day:
Read the story about Howard on Wikipedia. He’s like a PC dhimmi!
smellthecoffee on September 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM
No, he’s got an entire US Army brigade instead :-)
johnsteele on September 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Yes, the ‘Pig’ comment was offensive, but all this attention to it is wearing thin. McCain won’t win the presidency by running as Sarah McCain. He needs to focus on Barry’s policies and not on mudslinging by the Dems. The citizens are capable of figuring out who the pig-in-a-poke is without Johnny Mac’s help.
Limerick on September 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Some of us (myself included) do slip up and insert a profanity here and there in an unguarded moment. Then again, most of those who frequnt these parts (excluding the trolls) are not unhinged adolescents.
Profanity is the sauce piquante of conversation: when used sparingly and at the right time it adds zest to a verbal dish.
If too much is used, however, the food becomes unpalatable, and if it is used on food that is already rotten, it will do nothing but make it taste worse.
This explains why Kos, Huffpo and DU act as the garbage can of the political internet.
ManlyRash on September 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM
People are unfortunately on edge, sensitive to cr*p from the lefties. You remark was misinterpreted and I’m sure entirely innocent, simple curiousity.
Now,think about if McCain/Palin are elected. Todd will get Secret Service cover which means he’ll be out on their salmon fishing boat with two guys in suits, ties and sunglasses :-) Actually should be great fun for the protection detail — days of salmon fishing and getting paid for it too :-)
johnsteele on September 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM
This explains why Kos,Huffpo and DU act as the garbage
can of the political internet.
ManlyRash on Sept 11,2008 at 10:22AM.
ManlyRash: Me,likey your comment, and we know what eats
garbage,in the spirit of zee Lipstick,zee pigs
eat zee garbage! haha.:)
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Yes, this concerns me a lot. The left has become unhinged in the last eight years and I don’t see them recovering any time soon. No matter who wins will bring out the worst in them. An Obama victory will bring out the demands for vindictive things like war crimes trials and “punishment.” And not just from the nutroots either, this stuff will be from party leaders and congressmen. A McCain victory will bring out four more years of hatred in the media and all up and down Democratic Party lines.
It isn’t going to be pretty. And it won’t be until some adults take over the Democratic Party; the closest thing they have to adults are the Clintons and we all know how well that works.
johnsteele on September 11, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I love the spin the old SC Dem Chair gave to Shep yesterday. “Oh she didn’t mean to say her abortion was her only qualification she ment to say being anti-abortion was”
Thats like saying “Oh I didn’t mean to say he murdered 37 people I ment to say he is pro death penalty”
Rbastid on September 11, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I fear a McCain victory where Obama gets the popular vote will make the Rodney King verdict look like a walk in the park.
Keith_Indy on September 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM
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