Open thread: Palin on ABC; Update: Gibson distorts Palin’s Iraq prayer; Update: Video of Iraq prayer comments included in segment

posted at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2008 by Allahpundit

We’re still an hour away from World News Tonight, but ABC’s already starting to tease quotes so we’re likely to see web video before they go on the air. Here’s your thread to comment. Currently bannering at their homepage:


TV Newser has other quotes but so far they’re the most platitudinous platitudes. Stand by for updates. Exit question: When is it appropriate to mix medications?

Update: From what I understand, they’ll run part of the interview on the 6:30 news, then the rest on Nightline at 11:35. Use this thread for both. They’ll do another interview tomorrow and that’ll run mostly on 20/20 at 10 p.m., with other portions possibly to run on WNT and Nightline.

Update: Here’s a partial transcript. Good to see Charlie did his homework:

GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” Are we fighting a holy war?

PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.

GIBSON: Exact words.

PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln’s words when he said — first, he suggested never presume to know what God’s will is, and I would never presume to know God’s will or to speak God’s words.

But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that’s a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God’s side.

That’s what that comment was all about, Charlie.

GIBSON: I take your point about Lincoln’s words, but you went on and said, “There is a plan and it is God’s plan.”

Totally untrue, but that’s what he gets for relying on the Associated Press, which took the liberty of bowdlerizing her quote mid-sentence in order to make it fit the narrative they were trying to build of her as some fundie who thinks she can read God’s mind. Here’s my post on the subject from last Thursday. Read it and see just how egregious the distortion here is.

Update: They’re also exaggerating what she said with their teaser, which makes it sound like she wants to unilaterally guarantee the security of Russian satellites. Read the excerpt linked above and you’ll see she simply means admitting Georgia and Ukraine to NATO and bringing them under the aegis of the all-for-one principle, which is McCain’s position. In the meantime, here’s what she says we should do: “It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.”

Update: Two clips are already up in case the transcript’s not good enough. Here and here.

Update: This doesn’t excuse them entirely since only viewers who were paying extremely close attention will have noticed the distortion, but ABC did show the actual 15-second video of her Iraq prayer.

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This thread was quite a roller coaster.

Loxodonta on September 12, 2008 at 8:33 AM


It’s not Palin’s gaffes we should be concerned about…!
Where’s Holy Joe when we need him?

Gulp, indeed…

J_Gocht on September 12, 2008 at 8:34 AM

Well, it’s been fun on this topic. But there’s work to do. We are seeing with this interview what is known as a “down”. They come in any great endeavor. The point is to persevere, learn from it, and move on. And so, I’m moving on to another topic.

An army sergeant I know once repeated a definition of “success” as, “Going from mistake to mistake with no loss of confidence.” I’m sure there’s more to success than that, but it makes for an interesting attitude.

For those supporting the Mac and the Cuda, let’s keep fighting. For those opposing, well…, whatever.

Back to work!

Tommygun on September 12, 2008 at 8:49 AM

DanKenton on September 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM

How delightful. Another angry atheist, bitterly clinging to his tattered copy of Sartre.

ManlyRash on September 12, 2008 at 10:12 AM

Hubris, thy name is any media journalist. Alessandra Stanley, (in an article published in the International Harold Tribune), sets the perfect example of hubris in an industry so arrogant that they truly believe the sun rises and sets at their beckoning call. It is scary to think that the media believes that with a few strokes of the keyboard, they can shape the worlds view into their petty bubble of a perceived agenda. The elite media actually believe they are all “Woodwards and Bernsteins”—-their anointed “Prophets of Journalism”—-writing and broadcasting like they were parting the Red Sea or etching the Commandments in stone…..

Rovin on September 12, 2008 at 11:04 AM

When McCain was pestered by Judy ‘in the tank’ Woodruff last night about American Excellence he should have stated that indeed Americans are excellent in all but one arena – media objectivity.

Fuquay Steve on September 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM

After listening to the interview between Bill O’Reilly and Obama, I have greater respect for him as an interviewer. I was expecting the same of Charlie Gibson. What a disappointment. Instead of watching three parts, I am done. The interview sounded like an *th grade pop quiz. Shame on Charlie.

Pegzy on September 12, 2008 at 11:46 AM

bill30097 on September 12, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Like it or not. the glaciers and sea ice around Alaska is retreating. Does that mean the earth is still warming or has not started to cool? while the global temputure over the last year has fallen dramacticlly the earth is a big system and the effects of the recent warming are still be felt. It will take a season or two to show the ice getting thicker and the glaciers advancing again. However I thought her answer while not great by my standards would soothe the “middle class environmentalist” while at the same time giving hope to us that think the earth was warming naturally. Of course her statement will only piss off those leftwing nutcases that think man is unnatural and should be killed. Or those rightwing people that think man has nothing to do with the environment.

So on the whole pretty good. I would have no problems fighting polution as long as CO2 is not part of the definition of polution

unseen on September 12, 2008 at 12:23 AM

Dear unseen idiot. You never heard of the fact that the arctic ice cover is at an all time record high? You truly are an idiot.I know McCain bought into this phoney global warming crap.Hopefully someone with sense can persuade President Palin next year.

bill30097 on September 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Gibson is literally looking down his nose at her.
Up yours buddy.

RobCon on September 12, 2008 at 1:31 PM

I know McCain bought into this phoney global warming crap.Hopefully someone with sense can persuade President Palin next year.

bill30097 on September 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM

my take on Mc and global warming is he’s appeasing the left for votes.
I don’t think he really believes it.

that makes me sick.

jimmer on September 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM