On the nature of elitism
posted at 8:30 am on September 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Democratic activist and Hillary Clinton supporter Lynn Forester de Rothschild looks at the charge of elitism as tossed around by both campaigns and tries to correct the impression that it concerns one’s background, at least as a political concept. In her Wall Street Journal essay, Forester de Rothschild notes that the humble origins of Barack Obama does not mean he isn’t an elitist, and John McCain’s family of admirals does not make him one, either:
If Barack Obama loses the presidential election, it may well be the result of a public perception that he is detached and elitist — a politician whose expressions of empathy for hard-working Americans stem more from abstract solidarity than a real connection to the lives of millions of citizens.
Suggestions that Sen. Obama has failed to relate to working- and middle-class voters in swing states have dogged his campaign for months. His choice of Sen. Joseph Biden as his running mate only marginally corrects the problem.
While Obama supporters attempt to dismiss the charges about their candidate’s perceived hauteur, they confuse privilege and elitism. Elitism is a state of mind, a view of the world that cannot be measured simply by one’s net worth, position or number of houses. Throughout American history, there have been extremely wealthy figures who have devoted themselves to genuinely nonelitist principles. (Franklin Delano Roosevelt is probably the best-known example.) At the same time, many from modest backgrounds, like Harry Truman’s foil, Thomas Dewey, personified elitism.
Forester de Rothschild uses the Vero Possumus seal as evidence of Obama’s elitism and hauteur, but here she’s also confusing elitism with egotism — and, frankly, childishness. She notes the Tiergarten campaign rally in Berlin and the Barackopolis at Invesco Field as further evidence of elitism, or at least the trappings of it, but again she mistakes unbridled ego and perhaps a bit of an inferiority complex for elitism again. All of these send signals of elitism, but that isn’t what elitism in the political context means.
Elitism is a sense that the hoi polloi are simply incapable of governing themselves, let alone a nation, and that a small group of “experts” have to take control of everything they do. That goes far beyond mere matters of state. Elitists see people getting more obese and believe that government has to intervene to remove food choices from individuals, as one rather timely example, as in New York City. They believe that removing personal choices will keep people from making bad decisions, because they — in all their wisdom — will make the right choices for them.
This describes perfectly the policy direction of the Democratic Party, and perhaps even a part of the Republican Party as well. That’s why the charge of elitism sticks so well to Democratic candidates in national elections. Their humble origins are immaterial to the concept of elitism. Candidates who want to grow the federal government in order to increase its nanny-state power are by definition elitists, because they believe individuals cannot make choices for themselves.
For Obama, the trappings of his ego make this even more obvious than perhaps it should be. He can’t understand why a man who makes his own presidential seals before being elected, gins up a rally of cheering Germans in an attempt to impress the yokels back home, and creates a Greek temple to his wisdom can be seen as elitist if he had to struggle in his early life. I don’t think anyone doubts the struggles of his childhood, but part of the problem is that his struggles really aren’t all that exceptional. He came from a broken home; probably half of all adults his age do now, or close to it. He traveled the world, grew up in Hawaii, and got scholarships to Columbia and Harvard Law School. That’s not that tough of a start in life.
Forest de Rothschild notes that McCain has at least one event in his life when he rejected his own privilege in favor of his nation. He could have accepted the North Vietnamese offer of early release, based on his status as an admiral’s son. At the risk of his life and certainly at the risk of more torture, he refused. She believes that’s why McCain can make the elitist argument against Obama, and perhaps that’s true in terms of credibility. However, the real reason it sticks is because Obama and his allies want to govern us as though we were idiots, and McCain and Palin appear more likely to treat us as adults.
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“But if I were an Obama partisan I would be worried that his mistakes have a common thread – pride.”
dtestard on September 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM
Like believing that a judges view of what is right and what is wrong is more important than what the Constitution actually says?
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 8:35 AM
Franklin Delano Roosevelt once referred to the American citizens as “subjects.”
Next.
fossten on September 11, 2008 at 8:37 AM
I wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve said the say basic thing…
TheBigOldDog on September 11, 2008 at 8:37 AM
I’m not an elitist, just an asshole: Hoi polloi doesn’t take an article. I
mymanpotsandpans on September 11, 2008 at 8:38 AM
Ok, some one with a name like ‘Forest de Rothschild’ is going to lecture the little people on the nuance of elitism???
*snort*
Likewise
*Gag*
BigWyo on September 11, 2008 at 8:38 AM
Barack started out as a community organizer, i.e., I know better than you how you should run your lives.
rbj on September 11, 2008 at 8:39 AM
I’m just no sure he’s got someone in his camp who can tell him what to do. Dropping the “g” out of every word in trying to appeal to us commoners sure isn’t cutting it.
hippie_chucker on September 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM
I know it’s Off Topic, but the McCain and Obama campaigns are taking the day to observe the 7th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks…
…and no mention of this grim anniversary or the plans of the candidates on HotAir yet? No mention of how the country, and our President, will be observing this day?
I thought there’d be some mention, some homage paid, to this terrible event first thing in the morning to remind everyone of what day it is. To remind us that the fight against Islamofascism is still an ongoing battle.
I guess “Never Forget” has been forgotten?
SilverStar830 on September 11, 2008 at 8:41 AM
Liberism 101,
Well,you know,the Liberal Party has to run your life,
and thats because your to stupid to realize that your
incapable of doing so!
Now,sit back,have a glass of Liberal Koolaid,and sign
on to the Democratic Party!!
Now see,you were so stupid,you didn’t even know you
were a Liberal!(Sarc!)
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM
Good summary of Dem. attitudes. I just read that Biden’s youngish daughter is now a social worker in Delaware. My immediate reaction was surprise that they still had them. I mean they’ve been pushing this kind of crap for 50 years now.
But there must still be “clients”– people who “desire” assistance from the gov’t in how to run their lives.
Dems don’t want to ever end such programs, and some portion of our population wants an “elite” to run their lives. Supply and demand. It’s funny, maybe there are just too many democrats to satisfy demand. Too many of us don’t want anything from them. LOL. Have dems run into a recession when it comes to interest in nannystatism?
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 8:43 AM
It started with arugula…
coldwarrior on September 11, 2008 at 8:43 AM
I believe Obama and Bill Clinton are meeting today at Clinton’s office in Harlem. News reports said Obama would be in NY to observe 9/11 and Clinton invited him. Don’t know if a word of that is true, but I read it.
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 8:45 AM
Then there’s the elitism of Reid and Pelosi: We know what’s best for the planet. There will be no additional drilling for oil. We must end our addiction to it, regardless of what it does to the economy.
They know better, even if they have to drive this economy into the ground to prove it.
EMD on September 11, 2008 at 8:45 AM
They use their power to create a class of people unable to make decisions and then point to them as proof that the rest of us need such help. As James Taranto noted a couple of days ago in Best of the Web,
Quisp on September 11, 2008 at 8:45 AM
Consevatism in a nutshell: Leave me the F#@K alone!
pugwriter on September 11, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Pride goes before disaster, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:18
But in Senator Obama’s case, that haughty spirit has been present from the beginning of his campaign because it is a character flaw he brings with him wherever he goes. So, unless he and his supporters can conceal it better from the public, they will face disaster this Fall.
Loxodonta on September 11, 2008 at 8:47 AM
However, the real reason it sticks is because Obama and his allies want to govern us as though we were idiots, and McCain and Palin appear more likely to treat us as adults.
Ed Morrissey
And here is a perfect example of that Ed… (powerline)
Congressional Democrats apparently are about to propose a new energy bill. I haven’t seen the legislation; in fact the congressional Republicans haven’t seen it either. However, House Minority Leader John Boehner understands that the legislation, while purporting to open up a large portion of the outer continental shelf to exploration, will not give states any of the revenue for the oil and gas off their coasts. If so, this would mean that states are denied the incentive to opt-into any exploration program. Here is Boehner’s entire statement:
Tonight, rumors are circulating about a new ‘no energy’ bill being put forward by the Democratic Leadership. While we have not seen the language of the bill, it seems that Speaker Pelosi and her colleagues are attempting their biggest hoax yet: in an attempt to provide themselves political cover, Democrats are going to pretend to ‘open up’ a large portion of the outer continental shelf for energy exploration – but without giving states any of the revenue for the oil and gas off their coasts. With no financial incentive, no state will choose to ‘opt-in,’ and this bill will result in little or no new American energy production. Worse, this legislation will permanently place vast American energy supplies under lock-and-key, including energy-rich locations close to existing oil and gas infrastructure where new American energy could be produced quickly to lower fuel costs. The fact that Speaker Pelosi and her colleagues took six weeks to cobble together this sham is an insult to the American people.
House Democratic leaders are trying to con the American people, plain and simple. The American people want an “all of the above” energy plan, not a “some of the above” hoax. This latest scheme seems designed to block any new American energy from coming online anytime soon, and it leaves American families, seniors, and small businesses to continue fending for themselves amid today’s high gas prices. For months, House Republicans have been asking for a real debate, and a real vote on our “all of the above” reforms to lower gas prices, the American Energy Act. The American people support our plan, and they deserve a vote.
Keemo on September 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM
The Democrats speak and write using tired slogans, the premise of which they demand we accept.
It’s exactly the way parents speak to small children.
Democrats don’t even consider the possibility that other people may have a different point of view.
Camille Paglia is a liberal, but I like reading her in Salon because she actually makes arguments for liberal positions that go beyond sloganeering. When she argues for abortion, there’s none of the “women’s right to choose” or “a woman has a right to do what she wants with her own body” nonsense. I still don’t agree with her, but at least when a liberal posits an actual argument, there’s some possibility of agreement.
I maintain that the majority of liberals are attracted to leftism because leftism has marketed itself as the product the smart kids all buy. Buy into the brilliance of socialism and no matter how stupid you are, you’ll be considered brilliant as well.
It’s why they get so frustrated with the rest of us. To them, they don’t need to provide an explanation for their positions and they really can’t, beyond tired slogans.
NoDonkey on September 11, 2008 at 8:50 AM
McCain Palin have a huge advantage on the elitism front.
Palin can really hammer Obama on the private school issue that AP posted about last night too. You know how many kids went to private school in the PA mill town I grew up in – that’s right – none. I was friends with the plant mangager’s kids and the plant janitor’s kids and we all went to the same public school. I can’ wait to see how badly Obama gets mauled in towns like that.
But, hey, Biden’s from Scranton!
forest on September 11, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Darn Freedom of Speech. I have no idea what to write.
Ordinary1 on September 11, 2008 at 8:53 AM
What the hell is “Buzz Up”?
Jaibones on September 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM
” I have no idea what to write.”
Ordinary1 on September 11, 2008 at 8:53 AM –
That’s what Obama’s speech writers have been saying all week.
coldwarrior on September 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM
On 9/11, I’m holding back the stones. We’re all Americans today.
Never forget.
Hening on September 11, 2008 at 8:56 AM
“Forest de Rothschild” is too much of a last name for me.
drjohn on September 11, 2008 at 8:56 AM
I think it’s fairly clear that Obama’s view of himself is out of step with reality. The “hope & change” thing, that he was somehow able to get people to fall in behind him because of the extraordinary power of his personality, was obviously an invention of his imagination right from the start. Had it been real, he wouldn’t have had such a battle with Hillary; the Democrats would have fallen under his spell and voted him in virtually unanimously. That should have been his first message that maybe the words and the picture weren’t really matching.
It’s one thing to imagine yourself something, and to hope that, by sheer force of will you can become that thing; it’s quite another to bring it into practice. Obama’s signal failure to actually lead the Democratic party into unity certainly does not inspire confidence that he can “work across the aisle” to do much of anything else, despite his lofty rhetoric.
mr.blacksheep on September 11, 2008 at 8:56 AM
And would barely talk to people who didn’t have an Ivy League education.
Ann NY on September 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM
And that first name? Must be a hippie or something.
forest on September 11, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Oh, did we forget to mention that George Soros is very heavily invested in Petrobras, a Brazilian offshore drilling company. When he dumps that investment, he may give us permission to okay drilling… maybe.
CC
CapedConservative on September 11, 2008 at 8:59 AM
I’d need to know what sort of eyeglasses Forest de Rothschild wears before I can fully understand her point.
saint kansas on September 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM
The smoke screens, masks, camouflage, & costumes, aren’t fooling the American people.
Donald Lambro and David Frum report the return of a national security gap between the Democrats and Republicans according to a Democratic focus group study by pollster Stan Greenberg. “Old doubts about Democrats on security, after diminishing during 2006-2007, have begun to re-emerge,” says a memo on the study, conducted for Third Way, a centrist Democratic advocacy group.
Among the study’s chief findings, quoted by Lambro: “Voters see Democrats as indecisive in the face of threats and afraid to use force to protect the nation; they see Democrats insufficiently supportive of the military; and they see Democrats following public opinion, rather than adhering to a consistent principled view of the country’s best interests.” Lambro also notes the study’s findings that Republicans now lead by 14 points on which party will better handle national security issues, and by 15 points on who would better combat terrorism.
Perhaps these findings explain Joe Biden’s uncharacteristic commitment to the use of force yesterday. In the same appearance at which Biden paid tribute to Hillary Clinton’s possibly superior qualifications to be vice president, Biden discussed Republican attack ads. Referring to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign against John Kerry in 2004, Biden declared he’s not going to let that happen again: “Swiftboating is not going to work this time, and the reason it’s not is No. 1, I’m going to smack ‘em right square in the chops.”
And all this time I had thought that Biden was just an extreme example of senatorial gasbaggery. But the man can also issue a threat that might scare off Pee-wee Herman.
Glad to see Biden show some toughness when it comes to who Democrats see as the “real” enemy…
Keemo on September 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM
The writer also seems to think that the Democrats problem is primarily one of communication. She says they need to shake “the label” of elitism, not the actual elitism. And, as Ed pointed out, it is not clear that she (and alot of others) really understands what elitism is.
BigD on September 11, 2008 at 9:01 AM
LOL. Don’t know what the hell was wrong with dial phones anyway.
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 9:01 AM
Thank you Silver Star for that picture. I do remember!
I’m seeing the Pres and VP and wives in New York now. I also would like to read a wonderful article commemorating the anniversary.
Bambi on September 11, 2008 at 9:02 AM
A bit O/T,The Naudet Brothers documentry on following
the firefighters on the day 9/11 happened is on Atlas
Shrugs website.
I seen it a few years back,but I watched it again last night.
canopfor on September 11, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Oh Please! FDR was a socialist with the idea that the governing class was a step above average American citizens. I’d be more likely to cite somebody like Carneige whose philanthropy improved communities than FDR.
highhopes on September 11, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Amen! Very well stated!
Josiah on September 11, 2008 at 9:09 AM
OBAMA’S PSASTOR JEREMIAH WRIGHT: FORMER MUSLIM
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
Read this and you will see all the pieces to the puzzle come together.
Gulf Coast on September 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Which is why the whole rags-to-riches theme of Obama’s speeches is offensive. He just isn’t that special and his struggle just doesn’t match up to struggles like spending a few years in a POW camp.
highhopes on September 11, 2008 at 9:12 AM
I think BO explains the term “buzz up” in his first autobiography.
forest on September 11, 2008 at 9:12 AM
God Bless America today and every day. May those who died on this day rest in peace and I hope the families and friends left behind find some measure of peace. The USA needs to “walk softly and carry a BIG stick” in the world. The reason we suffered the tragedy and travesty of 9/11 is because of the new age sissies who believe we need to “talk” to people. They will never understand there is a faction out there who resents the American pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.
red131 on September 11, 2008 at 9:12 AM
LOL.
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 9:14 AM
There’s nothing worse than an elitist with a big ego. You can just see BHO getting so frustrated by recent events. Its like he’s thinking, “don’t you people get it, I’m Barak?” Referring to himself the the third person will be next.
flyoverland on September 11, 2008 at 9:19 AM
Truthfully, it’s not great that many of America’s oldest and greatest institutions, including its universities and science and theological centers, now produce the type of leftist liberal effete weasels that they do. A great country needs great institutions. Now, we recoil at someone with Obama’s education credentials. That he was Law Review at Harvard (based on merit or not) is met with skepticism.
Wasn’t it Saul Alinsky and Karl Marx who taught that the institutions had to be infiltrated and corrupted for power to shift? They’ve done their part.
Time to create new institutions.
IF I WAS RUSH LIMBAUGH, I’D ENDOW A COMPLETELY NEW UNIVERSITY, AND MAKE IT AMERICA’S JEWEL.
(Sorry to tell you how to spend your money Rush, but if it helps any, I’ll send my two kids there and pay the tuition gladly.)
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Great Stooges short.
srhoades on September 11, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Want to know how to tell the difference between someone who is privileged and one who is an elitist?
One of them goes to highfalutin’ conferences in San Francisco and sneers at the rubes in the hinterland.
Kafir on September 11, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Here’s a quote from Dr. Tim Johnson, ABC’s medical editor:
“The idea that individuals are going to have enough knowledge and enough savvy and enough insight and, frankly, enough guts to make choices all by themselves is pretty much a pipe dream.”
Now that is elitism in a nutshell.
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Your definition nails it, Ed. Liberals want to tell people how to live their lives while conservatives want to let them live their lives. There are two categories of liberals, those who want to make the decisions for others, and those who want to be led around by the nose and become dependent.
whitetop on September 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM
He thinks he deserves this. That’s not good. Michelle is now proud of the country for the first time? Yes, they are owed these trappings.
MamaAJ on September 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Pure humor coming from a, (*jutting out my lower jaw to say it*), “Rothschild”.
This writer illustrates blindness of the liberal establishment. They believe the elistist tag can be removed through the use of theatrics, which only emphasizes their contempt for the intelligence of the average American.
The only way to remove the image is through a generous use of explosives on their platform.
Saltysam on September 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Better watch it, Keemo, “smoke screen” could be considered racist!
/liberal filter off
Logic on September 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM
So a guy who can’t remember how many houses he owns is not an elitist, but merely detached?
jim m on September 11, 2008 at 9:30 AM
I think this is about as good as you can find.
http://www.hillsdale.edu/
highhopes on September 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM
So a guy who can’t remember how many houses he owns is not an elitist, but merely detached?
jim m on September 11, 2008 at 9:30 AM
That depends on the circumstances.
Nothing about simply-being-wealthy determines a mental state of elitism.
Saltysam on September 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Back when he was still president, Clinton once gave a speech in which he told a group of business leaders that he wanted to give them a tax cut, but he was afraid that they wouldn’t spend it wisely, and that would hurt the economy, so he couldn’t.
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM
That’s true, and Hillary Clinton is one of those Elitists, so it is ironic that Rothschild supports her so ardently.
That being said, it was a very well done piece, and I believe she was correct to cite the Berlin rally as an example of elitism (not just egoism). It was elitist because it played into the elite’s view that Europe is intellectually and culturally superior to America.
Buy Danish on September 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Biden also attended an expensive private school.
AZCoyote on September 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Thanks. I do know of Hilldale. That name comes up a lot as being one of the top conservative schools in the country. Frankly, I’d even settle for politically neutral. But is a sad day when the Ivys are something to worry about. And we are there.
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Hey, Cindy got the houses through Bud Light sales. The true elitists would look down their noses at that type of nouveau riche money. To them, the McCains are about on the same level as Rodney Daingerfield in “Caddyshack”.
jon1979 on September 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Great article,summed it up nicely.Osama is a racist,egotist,socialist,elitist cut from the same cookie sheet that formed WRIGHT, HITLER,OJ,OPHRAH{a.k.a. aunt jemimah]KWAME,MCKINNEY,AYERS,RESZKO,FONDA,M.MOORE,REV PHLEGM,BLITZER,CAFFERTY,OLBERMAN,A.MITCHELL,SARANDON ,ABC,NBC,CBS!I SINCIRELY APOLIGIZE TO ANY ASSHOLES I MISSED.p.s. have to add MATT[a.k.a. damien]DAMON.Semper Fi my brothers and sisters!!!!!!
Marines for Mccain on September 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Remember Slick Willire and Hillie telling us that we didn’t deserve a tax cut because we wouldn’t know how to spend it “properly”? Liberal twittery to the max!!
So the author is a Rothschild. Accident of birth, and besides, rich doesn’t automatically make you ‘elite’ in the sense we’re discussing and there are some folks who are rich and smart.
GeneSmith on September 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM
My mother-in-law was born in a dusty farmhouse in South Carolina and spent a great portion of her childhood barefoot.
She was a terrible snob and profound elitist thanks to a decade of “higher education.”
Elizabetty on September 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM
You mean he wasn’t sure how many housing units that his wife’s blind trust was invested in at the moment?
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 9:50 AM
They are now such profound places of higher indoctrination that there is great risk in sending your children to one of them. Now they turn out as socialist snobs who are a drag on society.
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM
The democrats saying Jesus was a community organizer and Pilot was a governor shows two very distinct problems for their smear machine. Comparing Jesus in this way perpetuates their constant promoting Obama as the “messiah.” Wasn’t both of the last democratic presidents governors too. The stupidity of the Obama campaign is really getting embarrassing to those above a double digit IQ.
volsense on September 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM
I’m sorry, but B Hussein and his ilk are not ‘elitists’, they are pseudo-intellectual snobs. There’s a big difference.
progressoverpeace on September 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Elitism is partly the result of the stripping of true religion from culture: After aggressive secularization of a culture, Christian doctrine gets perverted so that a semblance of it remains vaguely recognizable on the surface, but the underlying principles are corrupted.
True Christian doctrine urges one to recognize that if he’s been given unusually strong talents or material goods by birth, it is expected that he show a return on it, i.e., he is required to sanctify the world and lift others up.
The bastardized, i.e. the secularized simulacrum of Christianity retains the idea that some are given more natural gifts, and have a duty to lead, but it introduces a corrupted principle that those to whom more has been given are entitled to receive favors and status. This is not Christianity. It is something very different from Christianity.
jeff_from_mpls on September 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Yesterday, a certain HA poster tried to make the claim that Palin must be less qualified than Obama, because he went to an Ivy league school, and she didn’t.
His defense of this claim was that it was something everybody knew, and anyone who didn’t agree was stupid.
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Agreed. Although we are a bit preoccupied with Ike right now, our flag is flying at half mast.
pullingmyhairout on September 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM
That’s not elitism. While elitists are led to the same conclusions, far more often people take the above views merely because they don’t trust people to make their own decisions (and that includes themselves!). One doesn’t have to be an “elitist” to want no responsibility (i.e. others telling them what to do and how to do it).
Elitism is an attitude, not a policy. For most of the dems, as I mentioned above, they know that they are stupid and could never be elite, but they love pretending that they are elite (just like BHO’s faux Presidential seal or styrofoam Greek columns …). These are the pseudo-intellectuals and they are far more dangerous than any elitists.
progressoverpeace on September 11, 2008 at 10:07 AM
American Censorship: Blocking the Path to 9/11
“The most significant act of censorship in the history of media in this country.”
thedudesblog on September 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM
…by the way, read this; classic example of The ONE, Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SAW)(SWT); practicing “Taqiyah“:
“As he [Obama] came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, ‘Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I’m hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.’
Anyone else need further proof?
As for his Socialist ties, read this excellent series of articles.
Be afraid America, very afraid…
Dale in Atlanta on September 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM
So a guy who can’t remember how many houses he owns is not an elitist, but merely detached?
jim m on September 11, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Jim m,
Since you decided it important enough to post that comment here, how about answering this question.
Why did the MSM critter ask McCain such a non relevant question in the first place? Does owning property and or other forms of personal investments have anything to do with the qualifications for being potus? McCain’s answer is not as important as the motive behind such a question, in my opinion.
Keemo on September 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM
This is why they hate Sarah Palin so much. She is a real person and not afraid to embrace those around her who are ordinary people. Obama and many on the left see this and can’t stand it and don’t understand it either.
4shoes on September 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM
That’s just it- it’s the arrogance. Obama made the “lipstick” remark out of his own arrogance. He thinks he can continue to get away with being sexist and elite because the media has allowed him to be for this entire campaign. I agree that he may not be “plotting” these remarks- what’s so much worse, is that, these remrks ARE him! It’s how he thinks!
anniekc on September 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM
but here she’s also confusing elitism with egotism — and, frankly, childishness.
Steven on September 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM
That’s exactly why I’ll encourage my kids to attend a state university and the School of Hard Knocks (working, taking responsibility for yourself, et). Both tend to teach us a lot more about life than Ivy League!!
pullingmyhairout on September 11, 2008 at 10:31 AM
A couple of points…
This author did not write this for the masses, this author wrote it as one of the Elite, speaking to others of the Elite… so from that perspective it makes perfect sense.
Real key here is that there are different forms of elitism which play off of, and support, each other.
Theres the intellectual elite, where you need a high brow degree from an Ivy school to be a member…
Theres the Hollyweird elite…
Theres a business elite, usualy CEOs of big companies… notice how they go from job to job, with huge salaries, even when companies they lead fail?
Then theres the Left Political Elite…
What gets interesting is when these different groups intersect, as they are now, and decided THEY run the country.
Oh, and did I mention the MEDIA Elite?
All of these groups have some “credential” or “thing” you need to be part of it… which CAN be taken away… and so must be protected by both your elite group, but the other groups as well…
Romeo13 on September 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM
I disagree with the claim that elitism is an attitude.
Elitism is institutional, a set of rules with tangible force. Not absolute, but tangible.
When you report to a board of directors, and tell them you’ve turned down an Ivy League candidate for V.P. you’ll get challenged; the burden is on you to explain why, because a subset of society is presumed to have first claim on those high positions.
It’s reality, not attitude.
jeff_from_mpls on September 11, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Keemo, of course it has some importance. Conflict of interest issues are the first ones that come to mind. And there is a perception that really wealthy people can’t understand the issues facing the rest of us.
jim m on September 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM
I want someone to explain how we common folk, who are too stupid to make decisions in our own lives, are smart enough to choose the people to make decisions for us all.
The Monster on September 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Eh…egoism is ‘hey you, look how good I am,’ while elitism is ‘hey, I’m so much better than you.’
Both are found in abundance when examining Barack Obama.
James on September 11, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Obama’s elitist campaign of “Hope and Change” became a lie after picking Biden who is an architect of the “broken” Congress for 36 years.
volsense on September 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM
My dad, who was an English professor, 19 Cent British poetry being his specialty, was an abject Anglophile, and a terrible elitist. He used to refer to a certain strata as “the great unwashed.” Lovely. He also was an Adlai Stevenson fan (not coincidentally). Just the son of Presbyterian missionaries, he grew up in China; he must have absorbed it from those 19th century Brits he was in love with, with a little boost from his Phd days at the U of Virginia–the cradle of southern “quality.” (All you UVA alumni don’t get all up in my face. I’m not saying it’s like that now. Heck my wife works there, and I used to bf we moved to Richmond.)
smellthecoffee on September 11, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Listen to a half-hour of MO and tell me this bunch is “one of us.”
saved on September 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM
From the Headlines comments:
Couldn’t say it better.
tru2tx on September 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM
One ticket is far more elitist than the other, by virtue of the fact that the combined candidates of that ticket have attended about three times as many colleges as the combined candidates on the other ticket. As a result, the slate with the greater number of colleges has more than three times the amount of whatever experience in real life attending college gives you.
It’s obvious that the more non-Ivy League colleges you attend, the more elitist you become.
I *think* I have that right, don’t I?
unclesmrgol on September 11, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I keep remembering Michelle Obama making a statement about the stimulus checks: What’s $600? Just another pair of earrings”. As a real estate agent who used to make a good living and now is going month to month wondering how I am going to pay for oil this winter(doubled in cost)when my income is halved, I can’t believe the arrogance. She makes $300,000 per year and can’t make ends meet? Do we want her family values making economic decisions for the country. People love Palin because they know she gets it. Her kids go to public school, she makes their breakfast in the morning. Everyone I talk to says they have had to give up lots of the little things that give pleasure to our lives and make getting up and going to work worthwhile. Going out to dinner or to a movie or a weekend getaway. The dems want us to suffer while they continue to enjoy the good life on our tax dollars. The republicans want to increase energy production creating jobs and allowing the economy to expand and keeping our dollars in the US strengthening our economy and not our enemies like Venezuela, Russia and the middle east. Eliminating earmarks and allowing states to put that money towards essentials like education and health care will create a more efficient use of that money instead of funding parks and buildings with a congressman’s name on them or creating phony companies providing jobs for congressman’s relatives and benefactors. It could be the biggest turnaround in the economy since Reagan cut marginal tax rates. This economic malaise is the result of years of elitist ignorance about how the PC approach to the country’s problems have nearly destroyed the American dream. Home ownership, creating wealth the pass on to your children, leisure to pursue not only personal pleasures but charitable and volunteer endeavors. Politicians live in a bubble shielding themselves from the cares of everyday Americans and are the poorer for it. Maybe eliminating earmarks and making them responsive to the people who elect them and not the fatcats who support their lifestyle will make a difference. That is why I support John McCain and Sarah Palin.
sharonlr on September 11, 2008 at 11:35 AM
That’s one of the reasons they are so afraid of McCain/Palin.
Your post is very thoughtful and well said, also.
tru2tx on September 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM
One thing that interests me is that McCain never talks about the years he was trying to raise a Family on Military pay…
Yeah, as a squadron CO he had housing and such, but he sure was not a Gazzilionaire during those years…
Romeo13 on September 11, 2008 at 11:59 AM
When distilled, BHO is essentially the manifestation of what American liberal elitism represents. They are under appreciated pseudo-intellectuals that lash-out because, in their mind, they are being lead by those less sophisticated, less educated and under-evolved masses.
I know these people… I have some in my family and when they are not in public, their disdain for conservatives, blue-collar and particularly white southerners is worn like a crest on their Che’ T-Shirts. In their minds they ‘re smarter and therefore better people and they should be making more money, their political ideology should be enforced, not discussed, and to question their ideology is to question their intellect.
It’s pretty pathetic.
Claypigeon on September 11, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Don’t worry, you won’t have to make that decision too much longer either.
MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 12:36 PM
We’re not smart enough to choose (according to them), which is why the Liberal-elite MSM is trying so hard to make the choice for us.
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Pat in NC on September 11, 2008 at 1:10 PM
I have spent my entire adult life in and around academics. I went to a small, liberal arts religiously-affiliated college for undergraduate school, a prestigious university for grad school, and taught and worked at large state schools. My husband also works in academe with a similar mix of experiences.
Big state schools are great for many reasons, including the fact that many of the students’ peers are working their way through college and/or returning after having worked, but they are not a shield from elitism. Don’t forget that UC Berkeley, UMichigan-Ann Arbor, UW-Madison, IU-Bloomington, are big state schools.
Small, denominational colleges can be a great environment, but – and I say this with all due respect – they can be perceived as insular. I’ve served on grad admissions committees and know that (in science anyway) students from these schools have an uphill battle of perceptions about their undergraduate experience. Some of it is elitism, but some of the criticism is valid, imho.
The elite schools – MIT, UChicago, Stanfords, etc – tend to attract the best and brightest products of the academic system. They can “afford” to have top conservatives on their faculty because they are robust enough to accommodate some dissent, but are still overwhelmingly populated by liberal elitists. Students there can find pockets of conservatism.
My advice to you when deciding on a college for your kids is to look at where the graduates go on to work, see if they have an ROTC program, look at graduate school placement, research the board of trustees, etc. The college where my husband is now has a very liberal faculty body, but the students (top math and engineering) go on to work for military-industrial companies, Wall Street, think tanks, CIA, etc – it doesn’t matter what their professors think. And, because it is a prestigious institution, they get into the top grad programs. The students get exposed to the typical mix of “diversity programs,” social justice events, etc, but because they are focussed on academics, it doesn’t warp them after graduation.
Being exposed to liberal elitism as an undergraduate can be a useful experience, as long as the students’ options after graduation are not limited.
ps. Based on my experiences, I have found liberalism and elitism to be interwoven in academe. Liberals (the majority) do not listen to conservative opinions. They spend their time lecturing to conservatives and trying to “educate” them about their misguided opinions. They look down on conservatives as defective. They look for simple explanations (religion, military background, social class, gender, race) for the “defects” they find. That’s elitism – assuming that someone who has arrived at a different set of beliefs is defective.
Y-not on September 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM
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