I want to understand this theory. Frankly I just don’t know enough about it yet. I agree the Scripture seem to say it was there, so it must have been. But how is a fair question and I can’t explain to others what I myself do not understand.

Maxx on September 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM

I agree Maxx. I always encourage people question what you’re being taught, question what I say, question the Bible. “Come now, and let us reason together, ” the Lord says (Isaiah 1:18). Nothing wrong with questioning the Bible. It’ll stand up to scrutiny. On the Canopy Theory, I make sure to say it’s only a theory. I can’t prove it. What we can prove though, what the evidence shows, is that life was much different before the flood! The question is why? That’s the question. I think Hovind explains this Canopy Theory best. He talks about it in many of his videos, not just the link I gave you.

Yes, Brown’s Hydroplate theory explains Noah’s flood in a very plausible and scientific way, its a great site, I’ve learned a lot from it.

Yup! Walt Brown’s very insightful. Great website for learning! I research there often. God bless, my friend.

Thanks for the link. I want to understand this theory. Frankly I just don’t know enough about it yet. I agree the Scripture seem to say it was there, so it must have been. But how is a fair question and I can’t explain to others what I myself do not understand.

Yes, Brown’s Hydroplate theory explains Noah’s flood in a very plausible and scientific way, its a great site, I’ve learned a lot from it.

It is called the Mysner Effect. (make that emphasis).

apacalyps on September 14, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Sorry. That emphasis remark was a reminder to myself to do this Mysner Effect. I need to improve my proof-reading… lol…

Excellent post apocalyps!! And its amazing how much we think alike. You covered a lot of ground in that post and I’m in agreement on probably 98%. We must be reading much of the same materials. I read Walt Brown’s site, its my favorite for purely scientific answers to Biblical questions, amazing stuff.

I agree 100% with the points you made about Noah’s flood, no doubt the coal and natural gas is a result of enormous amounts of vegetation and carcases being rapidly buried about 4,400 years ago. The coalification process can be accomplished in a matter of weeks or months, it surely does not take millions of years like secular science tries to tell us. The number of flat out lies kids are taught in schools these days is very sad.

The evidence of Noah’s flood is everywhere but of course secular science tries to deny it. But the creation sites are beating the secular scientists to death on this issue and at some point they will have to acknowledge the truth of the matter and I don’t think its that far off.

I just read Psalm 148:4 and I was not aware of that verse, interesting. And of course Genesis 1:6 says something similar. But I don’t know how the water Canopy could have stayed up there, so if you have a link on that I would like to read it.

You are certainly right about the very long lifespans of the antediluvian Patriarchs and higher oxygen content and the giant size of everything.

One point on the oil and the reason I think Thomas Gold might be right is that we have to drill so deep to get at it. And the fact that wells pumped dry can sometimes be left alone for a decade or so and oil appears in the well again. So Gold says he thinks it some kind of chemical reaction between methane and water and some other things (I don’t recall) and that the Earth naturally produces oil. But I sure don’t know for sure its just an interesting theory.

I’m glad we are on the same team. God Bless and goodnight.

apacalyps on September 11, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Agree with all of that except I like the Thomas Gold theory of abiogenic oil.

Maxx on September 11, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Hey, Maxx. Well, you won’t find me arguing with you on that, brother. We’ve got much better things to do with our time anyways like getting the truth out to the lost. We’re on the same team. No two people agree on everything anyways. So no way, I don’t want to debate. Not saying you do. Just saying I won’t (smiles). However, I’ll tell you what I think on this subject so you know. I’m convinced that the oil is down there as a result of the people and animals that drowned in the flood, and it has only been there for about 4,400 years. That is why it is still under pressure. They can take a ton of garbage in the lab and and squeeze it into a barrel of oil in about 20 minutes. All that oil, the coal, and the natural gas, it’s consistent with the devastation of Noah’s Flood, which would have uprooted everything on the planet and buried it with huge quantities of sand and mud. People don’t realize that today’s earth is completely different than before the flood. We are living in a destroyed world wrecked by a major catastrophe. I tend to agree with the Canopy Theory. There is evidence that before the flood there was more oxygen in the earth’s atmosphere like the hyperbaric oxygen chambers where athletes go for quicker healing. Scientists have drilled into petrified tree sap, the “Amber”, and they sometimes have air bubbles trapped in them. These air bubbles had 30% oxygen, compared to our current atmosphere of oxygen (20%). If there was more oxygen in the air it would help people live longer lives (less illness and quicker healing) before the flood (pre-flood life span 900 years, post-flood 400, Moses time 100, today 70-80, etc). An atmosphere of 30% oxygen and double air pressure would produce incredibly lush vegetation, and huge, gigantic, forests. It would also explain why everything was bigger before the flood of Noah. They’ve found giant fossilized oysters and clams, turtles, rats, frogs, insects, etc. I’d post the pics, but the filters keep eating my post. So I think it’s the best explanation for some of the things we find. That said, even if there wasn’t a water canopy around the earth (see Psalm 148:4) we still know everything was bigger before the flood of Noah, and all this matter would still result in all the fossil fuels we find. There’s something else as well. I think the oil is down there to remind us about the judgment of God on sin every time we use any oil or natural gas or drive down a black-top highway. Such a glaring reminder. Have a great day Maxx. May the Lord bless us in our searching and our questions.

I heard that Matt Damon was interviewed in Canada recently and he took that as an opportunity to talk about Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. Here’s the video: This resulted in a couple mentions on the Internet tubes and a follow-up……

Hmm, I think I’ll wait to make up my mind about her until that guy who played Mr. Drummond from Diff’rent Strokes weighs in with his opinion.

Did you? The bogus voiceover isn’t even synced with the speakers’ lips. And why on Earth would Ron Reagan be talking about paleontology?

Cicero43 on September 11, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Voiceover? What are you talking about. No voiceover there. It’s true. Scientists found soft tissue in the leg bone of a T-Rex dinosaur. The discovery coincides quite nicely with the Biblical explanation — that most dinosaurs were destroyed in the flood 4400 years ago. All these fossils are animals that died in the flood. Fossils can only form under spectacular circumstances – ie, under tons of mud and rocks from a flood. Soft tissue does not survive for 70 million years. Dinosaurs did not live millions of years ago.

Can we please note that this supposed comment was debunked by Snopes? That fact is getting buried in the dicussion on evolution ans creationsim. And has it occured to anyone that Damon and Dowd probably know this but figure their fans don’t, so it’s a good way to keep the rumor out there? Okay, so maybe Damon isn’t that smart, but Dowd is.

Deanna on September 12, 2008 at 9:37 AM

I mean, really, I need to know if Barack Obama really thinks William Ayers is just a guy who lives in his neighborhood. Really, I need to know this before I vote. I want to know that, I really do. It’s scary that this guy could be president. It’s absurd. It’s totally absurd, it’s a really terrifying possibility. We can’t have that.

It’s like a bad Tim Robbins movie.

saint kansas on September 12, 2008 at 9:10 AM

Yes, this whole thing is what Obama once would have referred to as a “distraction”. Because anything to do with his religion, what is taught… even damaging, racist stuff, should be completely out of the race. But they can pull something pretty innocent from something Palin said in Church about prayng for guidence… and that is played prime time and misquoted by a respected journalist.

And on the other hand the only reason anyone would even know about Bill Ayers is Sean Hannity. No journalist would pursue it. It is a valid worry, and because they like the guy they won’t even look.

Yes it was a disinformation campaign. You might say a left-wing conspiracy.

Matt Damon should have finished college then maybe he wouldn’t believe everything he reads.

Bingo. Found the source of the quote.
(Snopes did indeed clear it up.)
It is here.

My collie says:

MSN blog on MSNBC was the first to popularize it one day later. (August 31st)
It wasn’t Daily KOS this time.

CyberCipher on September 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM

This is the original blog where the joke started:

http://unbearablebobness.typepad.com/

It even has a link to a CNN report of all things where they interview him and he debunks it.

Damon is an idiot.

Hawthorne on September 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Can we please note that this supposed comment was debunked by Snopes? That fact is getting buried in the dicussion on evolution ans creationsim. And has it occured to anyone that Damon and Dowd probably know this but figure their fans don’t, so it’s a good way to keep the rumor out there? Okay, so maybe Damon isn’t that smart, but Dowd is.

It’s like a bad Tim Robbins movie.

If you didn’t eat meat, you could shower longer, with naked chicks. In public. Or something.