Biden: Hey, you know who might have been a better pick for VP than me?

posted at 5:33 pm on September 10, 2008 by Allahpundit

Say it with me. Eagleton.

And so, with this, the number of Americans who don’t think Hillary would have been a smarter pick stands at one. Serious question: If Palin aces the Charlie Gibson interview and McCain bounces out to, say, an eight-point lead, does Obama decide that Biden needs to spend more time with his family, swap in Her Majesty, and launch the gender politics clusterfark to end all clusterfarks? It’d have to be done before the VP debate on October 2; they wouldn’t want to miss the chance to draw the contrast with Palin and cement the substitution in the public’s mind by not having her in place already for an event as high profile as that. Even more serious question: If Obama’s imploding, why would Hillary agree to come aboard? Better to let McCain finish him off and then skip to the nomination in 2012. Still more serious question: If McCain had chosen Palin before Obama picked his own VP, is there any doubt who the choice would have been? And the most serious question of all: What is this tool doing telling audiences Obama should have gone with Hillary? Is there any conceivable strategy behind that? A feeble ploy for the PUMAs, maybe, or just Biden being Biden?

Update: Biden said repeatedly during the primaries that Obama wasn’t qualified to be president. Turns out he was right:

Barack Obama’s judgment was that Joe Biden was the best possible vice presidential candidate.

Joe Biden says he’s wrong.

This was Obama’s first major decision as a would-be president.

He got it wrong.

Update: “I don’t think Palin would be seeing these kind of gains if Hillary was on the ticket… When Obama picked Biden, it gave Republicans an opening, and they are taking full advantage of it… The question is: How long will it last?”


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Some day in the very near future:

News flash: Today, VP Candidate, Joe Biden announced his resignation from the Democrat ticket. Senator Biden stated that he wanted to focus on his own challenging campaign for his Senate seat because he wants to ensure that President Obama has a friend in the Senate that can help enable the President’s initiatives and legislation.

(the next day)

There have been reports that Senator Hillary has been contacted by the Obama campaign to replace Joe Biden on the ticket.

(some time later)

Insiders have reported that a conference call was made today between Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean and other members of the DNC. Reports are that Hillary was offered the VP position on the ticket. Senator Clinton responded bluntly by stating that she had no interest in boarding a train that was heading full-speed over a cliff. She reportedly responded with this offer, she would try to prevent the train wreck only if she was the conductor on the train; she was at the top of the ticket. She left the conference call by suggesting they call her back after they had an opportunity to discuss that option and make their decision.

There has been no report of a response at this point

La Mano on September 11, 2008 at 1:19 AM

Barry defends ‘pristine real estate’ 15 billion a year for donkey farts for power….

sven10077 on September 11, 2008 at 1:29 AM

More Dems have been telling me that McCain is going to win. Democrats. Giving up, resigned to having McCain in the White House.
I’ll be celebrating only when McCain/Palin win. Politics can turn on a dime, and the Obama faithful may work harder and longer, the more desperate the outcome seems for their pick.
Don’t ever take this election for granted-nothing is won or done before Nov 4th.

Doug on September 11, 2008 at 1:52 AM

For what it’s worth, I think if Biden does drop out, Obama will ask Hillary and she will say yes. Can you imagine what the DNC would owe her for trying to save the rest of this campaign? She would run unopposed within her party.

Jesse on September 11, 2008 at 2:50 AM

Certinaly looks like Obama knows he has to dump Biden and put Hillary up against Sarah. Maybe they can mud-wrestle for it.

Halley on September 11, 2008 at 4:13 AM

For what it’s worth, I think if Biden does drop out, Obama will ask Hillary and she will say yes. Can you imagine what the DNC would owe her for trying to save the rest of this campaign? She would run unopposed within her party.
Jesse on September 11, 2008 at 2:50 AM

When’s the last time Hillary Clinton worried about what the DNC thought of her? And I don’t know what you mean by running unopposed by the Democrats; if she helped Obama win, would he step down in 2012? What would be the benefit of that to him?

No, if Obama loses, THEN Hillary will be, for all practical purposes, unopposed in the 2012 primaries.

logis on September 11, 2008 at 6:31 AM

If Hillary joins the ticket late, and they start to make up ground on McCain, then I don’t see many people blaming her if Obama still looses.

MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 7:44 AM

I may not have a lot of respect for Obama’s “intelligence”, but I don’t think even he is dumb enough to kick Biden out until after he has a firm commitment from somebody to replace him.

Even he’s got to realize that having the public watch for a few days or a week, while he decides on who is next VP will be, would drop his Nov. vote totals down to single digits.

MarkTheGreat on September 11, 2008 at 7:51 AM

DUmmies are spinning this as Biden’s “modesty

Nuance.

NoFanofLibs on September 11, 2008 at 9:08 AM

Hmmm. Getting crowded under the B Hussein Greyhound. We have about 10 times as many clips of HRC taking BHO to the woodshed than we have from Plugs Biden’s lips. Better start getting them ready. McCain should start running them like there’s no tomorrow.

Prying JB off the ticket will be as entertaining as watching him unstick the hairplugs from his scalp: unpleasant but potentially fascinating.

Western_Civ on September 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Hillary will not accept second banana on a sinking ship.

LibTired on September 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Barack Obama’s judgment was that Joe Biden was the best possible vice presidential candidate.
Joe Biden says he’s wrong.
This was Obama’s first major decision as a would-be president.
He got it wrong.

Sounds like a great campaign ad to me. Just add this clip and let ‘er rip.

crazy_legs on September 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Watch out for an October Surprise that the Clintonestia’s are familiar with.

MSGTAS on September 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Weird strategy, dude!

chiefeditor on September 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Please excuse my political ignorance…but what the hell is a PUMA? I haven’t heard anything about wild kitty cats running around Washingtion that I need to be concerned with…

Scorched_Earth on September 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Is this why Gerldine is backing off of Obama?

- The Cat

MirCat on September 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM

When’s the last time Hillary Clinton worried about what the DNC thought of her?

It’s not that she cares what they think of her, it’s what they would owe her in the process of her helping them dig themselves out of this hole. She cares about being the most powerful politician in the DNC. They would make her just that for her help.

if she helped Obama win, would he step down in 2012? What would be the benefit of that to him?

I don’t think he would have much of a choice. She would make him bow out like he made her. She would be the only person running on that side. Unopposed like I said.

I’m not sure any of this would happen. Just a thought.

Jesse on September 11, 2008 at 5:27 PM

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