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Obama on McCain/Palin: “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig”; Update: Video added; Update: “A pathetic attempt to play the gender card”

posted at 7:08 pm on September 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Perfectly innocent, I’m sure, just like Michelle’s bon mot last week about the importance of choosing a running mate who’s smart was perfectly innocent. Even though in that case, as in this one, reporters on the scene were so struck by the audience’s laughter they went out of their way to mention it.

Just your right-wing media exaggerating things as usual.

“That’s not change,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of what Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is offering.

“You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”

The crowd rose and applauded, some of them no doubt thinking he may have been alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.”

That’s Jake Tapper and a co-author, themselves “no doubt thinking” that Obama was kinda sorta calling Palin a pig. Otherwise they wouldn’t have wasted a post on what was otherwise a throwaway line at a random town hall.

And they’re not the only ones who took it that way.

Exit question: I defended him when he took heat from women for the “likeable enough” comment and his Annie Oakley goof on Hillary, but then came “sweetie” and now this. How come The One keeps running into these funny little misunderstandings with comments aimed at women politicians?

Update: Bear in mind as the inevitable nutroots naysaying about this gets going how insistent and ingenious they were in spinning secret offensive subtexts out of McCain’s ads. They’ll drill through six feet of bedrock to find “code” in something a conservative says, but they won’t dust off the topsoil of Obama’s comments.

Update:

Update: Here’s the video; the McCain camp is already coming after him for it. He doesn’t overemphasize the line, as you might think he would if he really wanted to hammer the point, but then if he hammered the point he wouldn’t have plausible deniability. Having watched it, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt — more so than Kaus is, apparently — just because I hate when the left pulls this with innocent statements made by conservatives. But again, the point isn’t what he actually meant, which we can’t know; the point is how different those secret liberal racial/gender decoder rings seem to work when it’s one of their guys in the hot seat. David Bellavia, a war hero, got smeared with accusations of unconscious racism on MSNBC for making an innocent remark about Tiger Woods. Fortunately, the Messiah is above such unconscious impulses.

Update: And right on cue, here’s the governor of New York drilling through six feet of bedrock.

Update: Here’s Gov. Jane Swift laying into Obama on Team Maverick’s conference call this afternoon.

Update: The campaign that played the race card so skillfully against the Clintons suddenly locates its scruples.

“Enough is enough,” Obama senior adviser Anita Dunn said in a statement e-mailed to reporters

“The McCain campaign’s attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy – the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health care plan just last year,” she continued. “This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run.”

Here’s a story of McCain using it last year. Hillary, of course, hadn’t made any lipstick references to herself before then so there was no context for McCain to play off of.


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He who lets his brother live in a hut; who has a racist preach to his daughters; he whose cowardice in failing to take any position as a legislator is eclipsed only by his arrogance and contempt for the people he would represent; who cravenly disavows and betrays the friendship of those whose old support is now an obstacle — he in whom narcisism, ignorance, inexperience, and self-promotion are so pefectly combined, knows better than anyone else, in my opinion, the true nature of the swine.

pomerpants on September 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”

Does anyone actually believe this wasn’t planned in advanced? It’s offensive and the point is to generate deniable outrage to hijack the narrative and put his own spin on the last news cycle. The media are carrying his water big time.

ninjapirate on September 9, 2008 at 11:04 PM

For a look at Democratic strategy, look no further than “Tortoise Wins By A Hare” Mel Blanc was a prophet. Spot on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53eOMFT6BHI

Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM

This race is getting to be more fun everyday. The DEMs really thought they had a savior that was going to finally win something..anything,,please!!! The guy is turning out to be exactly what they created… a fairytale. Only, even the fairy god mother has never attacked anyone, to my knowledge, in such a moronic and unintelligent manner that makes Barry and his party appear to be scared out of their wits. Can you imagine weaklings like this facing nations that want to harm us? Can these idiots not see what they are doing to themselves?

supergeezer on September 9, 2008 at 11:06 PM

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but this was DEFINITELY planned.
Damiano on September 9, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Lipstick on a pig AND old fish in a wrapper, it’s just a little too convenient in the same sentence.

Now, if McCain were to comment about Obama by saying he’s a watermelon, green on the outside and red on the inside, Mac would be tarred, feathers, shot, hung, burned at the stake, buried, dug up, shot again and then blown into space on the tip of an ICBM.

Bishop on September 9, 2008 at 11:06 PM

This dirtbag Obama has stepped over the line. Everday at lunch here in downtown Atlanta we pass an Obama worker set up taking voter registration. Tomorrow I will be saying something extremely disgusting to him.

bill30097 on September 9, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Nothing is easy.

Nothing can be taken for granted.

We can never start fighting.

That said, August 29 was the day we began to have a fighting chance.

September 3 was the day the country sat up and took notice.

September 9 was the day that Obama showed how really uncool he is.

Many voters will watch this clip. I particularly love how Obama has changed his speech patterns to drop the g’s and d’s. A different Obama for every audience.

JudetheFossil on September 9, 2008 at 11:13 PM

For a look at Democratic strategy, look no further than “Tortoise Wins By A Hare” Mel Blanc was a prophet. Spot on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53eOMFT6BHI

Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Hm.

It is pretty a propos.

Looney Tunes .. brilliant .. Gold Collection dvd’s .. hiiiighly recommended.

cgoode777 on September 9, 2008 at 11:16 PM

This is what you get when the other guy is smarterer than you.

HAHAHAHAHA

jukin on September 9, 2008 at 11:19 PM

pomerpants on September 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM

George Obama Compassion Fund

eigafan on September 9, 2008 at 11:20 PM

He was referring to Palin. Too many people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because they are basically decent people who would never intend such an insult, and he counts on that.

Obama is a sociopath. Period.

He will use your good impulses and intentions against you, and count on being given the benefit of the doubt by you, and count on being given a pass by the media (because he’s made them feel so SPECIAL, you see).

He despises women.

This, ironically, is easier to hide in liberal circles than in mainstream conservative ones. Liberal men have been so badly treated by liberal women that most of them don’t like women at all. They certainly resent them. And, with Palin, the women in all their lives have given their permission for all these liberal men to vent this resentment. And, it is ugly.

texette on September 9, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Instapundit has some interesting stuff up on this. I don’t care what the media says, the guy looks like a dumbass in that clip. And the more they talk it, the more people will see that clip.

Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 11:23 PM

Barry you aren’t being a good Muslim here, do you remember Pigs are sacred.

lavell12 on September 9, 2008 at 11:26 PM

bill30097 on September 9, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Don’t stoop to Barack Obama’s level. Just sit back and enjoy the sinking poll numbers for Obama’s campaign.

eigafan on September 9, 2008 at 11:26 PM

For a look at Democratic strategy, look no further than “Tortoise Wins By A Hare” Mel Blanc was a prophet. Spot on!
Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Ah yes. How could I forget? Everything I ever needed to know about Liberals, I learned from Looney Tunes.

Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I think BO was referring to Mrs. Palin with his “lipstick on a pig” statement and the “stinking fish” statement. Remember Todd Palin is a “fish picker” or commercial fisherman in Alaska, too.

gracie on September 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Don’t stoop to Barack Obama’s level. Just sit back and enjoy the sinking poll numbers for Obama’s campaign.

eigafan on September 9, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Agreed… better to walk by and laugh…

jerrytbg on September 9, 2008 at 11:31 PM

gracie on September 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Undoubtedly a two fer’ !!

jerrytbg on September 9, 2008 at 11:34 PM

George Obama Compassion Fund

eigafan on September 9, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Thank you eigafan. That reminds me to add to my list that Obama has no balls. I’ve read that George had to fight some times to make it through the hard — whilst Obama has never fought for anything in his life.

And don’t be too hard on bill — the first O-bot I see tomorrow I’m going after with lipstick.

pomerpants on September 9, 2008 at 11:34 PM

Since so many people spoke so well of the O’Reilly Obama interview, I watched the first two parts on YouTube and caught the 11:00 replay of tonight’s segment.

O’Reilly had the air about him he gets when he thinks somebody is trying to BS the American people and he’s not going to let them get away with it. None of the first three parts looked good on Obama and I expect the last part won’t either.

backwoods conservative on September 9, 2008 at 11:35 PM

I can’t believe that even Allahpundit missed this one. Look at the video. Obama uses exactly the same hand gesture that he used to flip off Hillary during a primary speech. Am I the only one who caught that? Or am I imagining it?

percysunshine on September 9, 2008 at 11:42 PM

While Barack may enjoy plausible deniability, the friendly audience understood Obama’s references to “lipstick on a pig” and “stinking fish” to be veiled verbal assaults on the Palins, specifically Sarah Palin.

CliffHanger on September 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM

For a look at Democratic strategy, look no further than “Tortoise Wins By A Hare” Mel Blanc was a prophet. Spot on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53eOMFT6BHI

Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Hm.

It is pretty a propos.

Looney Tunes .. brilliant .. Gold Collection dvd’s .. hiiiighly recommended.

cgoode777 on September 9, 2008 at 11:16 PM

I’ll look into that. Love that old stuff. In fact, as a child it was WB that indroduced me to classical music. Good times….

Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:52 PM

How come The One keeps running into these funny little misunderstandings with comments aimed at women politicians?
AP

We live in a world the Clinton’s created, where words are parsed and even half a sentence will be used as a stake to be whacked into your heart, if it can be. So, to repeat the question, how could he — the standard-bearer of the Party The Bill Built — make such stupid mistakes?

…arrogance….

In the little bubble in which he lives, he’s not often called to task. Now it’s beginning to happen. He’s still soldiering on, as before, thinking that this reputed charm he has — I must be immune to it, or tone-deaf, ’cause I haven’t seen it — will get him through it.

“Like lipstick on a pig…” is a fairly common expression. The O-man uses it to sound folksy. I hate it when establishment types try to sound folksy. Then, you find yourself faced with both the condescension of the delivery and the clumsy arrogance of aphorisms misused.

…arrogance…I suppose, if he wins, he’ll want not an inauguration but a coronation, with his every bowel movement enshrined as “only the 457th crap taken by America’s first black president….

Puritan1648 on September 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM

Don’t trouble yourself about the Messiah’s bowel movements, Pilgrim, as he won’t win

Been sayin’ it all Summer long ( long before it was hip ) and I’ll be sayin’ it until the Elections proves me to be the new Unknown Prophet–Rhapsodies induded

( for you pagans, read the Bible )

Janos Hunyadi on September 10, 2008 at 12:16 AM

Attempted trap or not, that persistent Drudge headline must be just killing em’ over at Obama H.Q.

aquaviva on September 10, 2008 at 12:20 AM

After careful consideration of the context of Senator Obama’s comments, I think he used that phrase intentionally. But I don’t want an apology from Monsieur Obama. Instead, whenever I Senator Obama’s image from now on, there will be lipstick on that smirk.

Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Pretty cool to be convincing! :-) I tip my not-wig to you.

baldilocks on September 10, 2008 at 12:36 AM

“The McCain campaign’s attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I did not get the impression that the McCain camp used the gender card. Obama did not insult all women, he specifically smeared Palin.

Any American who watches the clip will know exactly who Obama was referring to, as did his audience.

This is not like when he calls Republicans racist for no reason, Obama set dots out so they’re easy for anyone to connect. Obama looks down on Palin, he’s made that very clear.

El_Terrible on September 10, 2008 at 12:36 AM

I generally operate under the assumption that NOTHING

hump1201 on September 10, 2008 at 12:39 AM

I generally operate under the assumption that NOTHING in politics happens by accident, with the possible exception of interviews and debates. Considering Joe Biden was introduced at a campaign stop by some guy claiming McCain/Palin can’t put lipstick on their record and then Barry tells this lame joke, I don’t buy for a second he didn’t know what he was doing. Since it’s a somewhat common saying he can claim plausible deniability and get away with it thanks to his allies in the media. But get real. The most famous part of Palin’s speech was that pit bull/hockey mom/lipstick joke.

Also it becomes even more obvious when he talks about an old fish later. Nope no referencing age here! You’d have to think he’s seriously completely stupid to not realize what he was saying.

Please have Palin hammer him with her smiling sarcastic wit. Please!

hump1201 on September 10, 2008 at 12:42 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I did not get the impression that the McCain camp used the gender card. Obama did not insult all women, he specifically smeared Palin.

Any American who watches the clip will know exactly who Obama was referring to, as did his audience.

This is not like when he calls Republicans racist for no reason, Obama set dots out so they’re easy for anyone to connect. Obama looks down on Palin, he’s made that very clear.

El_Terrible on September 10, 2008 at 12:36 AM

Good point!!!
That’s why this plan will backfire on him.

Marsh on September 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM

My (late to the party) take:

It was intentional. They had the comeback and McCain quotes ready to go. And they did it for three reasons:

1. Since 12 or so hours after the Democratic convention, 99% of the media has been focused on Palin (and hence the Republicans). Obama needed to generate interest and get the focus back on himself. There will be 1,000 interviews about this, all to the effect of: “Of course I didn’t mean any such thing, and it’s no different from what McCain said. Here’s what I meant. Blah blah blah.” Lots of free air time for his talking points.

2. He needs his base to open their wallets and shell out more cash. (Tuesday’s NYT article says they’re running behind projected donations.) This is what his base has been waiting for and hoping to see since the GOP convention. You can be sure donations will be up starting tomorrow and will be widely reported.

3. He was dissed by a woman, and Obama is very touchy about that. He has issues with that.

#1 and #2 are good reasons from his POV, and it will probably work. #3 was a psychic bonus.

mimritty on September 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM

El_Terrible on September 10, 2008 at 12:36 AM

,,,,And I hope Sarah will also donate to the “O” Monel Staple Foundation…
to further the cause of community organizers.

jerrytbg on September 10, 2008 at 12:49 AM

The Messiah tried to adopt Palin’s biting wit and humor and completely, totally fouled it up because he just doesn’t have it in him.

Django on September 10, 2008 at 12:51 AM

Corblimey.

Fortunata on September 10, 2008 at 12:56 AM

Sarah needs to come out and confront this head on. Don’t let the surrogates handle this one and definitely don’t let McCain handle it. She needs to be as soft as a feather and sharp as a knife with Obama and point out how childish and “cute” it is that they feel the need to have the top of their ticket attacking the VP candidate on our side.

TBinSTL on September 10, 2008 at 1:00 AM

Obama pissed off just enough people with this little stand up routine here that it will cost him the election.

And this clip will be played over and over and over on talk radio and what not. We can be all nuanced like AP and others are doing, but enough people will see it for what it is — a not so veiled insult at Palin.

Someone is going to have to take him aside pretty soon and tell him to stop bringing up Palin period. It’s totally derailed his campaign and shows how he handles adversity — he meltsdown.

CanadianGuy on September 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Palin Reaction?

Gov. Palin tomorrow:

(Steps up to the microphone.)

(Starts to speak, then stops and reaches down and picks up something small.)

(She is now applying lipstick in front of this huge crowd that is laughing and cheering.)

(After a few minutes, the cheering dies down and she begins to speak.)

“Oink.”

(The crowd roars anew…)

That’s from MamaAJ.

That’s from Ace of Spades. Wonder if they’ll be smart enough to play it this way instead of throwing the victim card. So tiresome.

Fortunata on September 10, 2008 at 1:04 AM

Nah.

Ignore it.

That fuse is lit. Let it blow up on igs own.

cgoode777 on September 10, 2008 at 1:07 AM

Nah.

Ignore it.

That fuse is lit. Let it blow up on its own.

cgoode777 on September 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM

El_Terrible on September 10, 2008 at 12:36 AM

,,,,And I hope Sarah will also donate to the “O” Monel Staple Foundation…
to further the cause of community organizers.

jerrytbg on September 10, 2008 at 12:49 AM

…she’s against wasteful spending…

Ozprey on September 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM

Hmmm…lipstick and fish….are you, by any chance Barry, a bit of an a*se bandit, like your friend Sullivan? Something rotten in the state of Denmark and all that…????

Fortunata on September 10, 2008 at 1:15 AM

Here’s a story of McCain using it last year. Hillary, of course, hadn’t made any lipstick references to herself before then so there was no context for McCain to play off of.

Exactly. And even if he really believes McCain was referring to Clinton personally, it appears that he thinks he can get away with acting like a sexist jerk if he can point to another man doing something similar.

That, alone, says a lot about Obama.

capitalist piglet on September 10, 2008 at 1:19 AM

Here’s a story of McCain using it last year. Hillary, of course, hadn’t made any lipstick references to herself before then so there was no context for McCain to play off of.

Also, recall the video from last year, I believe, where McCain took a question from a supporter at some kind of meeting and the supporter said “so, how do we beat the b*tch?” referring to Hillary. All McCain could do is laugh along with everyone who was there, at the supporter calling Hillary a b*tch. I don’t recall anyone on the right getting too upset with that. As you say AllahPundit, I’m inclined to let this pass, especially since this is the kind of off the cuff speaking the right gets ridiculously criticized for all the time.

Michael in MI on September 10, 2008 at 1:27 AM

Toast, check mate, done. In the context of women, PUMA’s it’s over. Milk it for all it’s worth, GOP.

Sergei on September 10, 2008 at 1:58 AM

Obama isn’t worth my time to be pissed off. Don’t surprise me one bit what he said. He meant that toward Palin and McCain. Dingleberry, was on Fox news talking to Sean Hannity. He said that Obama wasn’t refering his statement toward Palin and McCain. HA! That is a bunch of crap. Sure am glad he had to drop out of the race. I truly believe that McCain, Palin will be running our Country. We don’t need a man who pretends he is a Black man. He is mixed! So there fore, he is not the first Black man to run for Pres. He has White in him to and Muslim. He might have gone to a Christian Church. But that Pastor of Obama’s was a full on American hater.

sheebe on September 10, 2008 at 2:00 AM

Hussein catches himself on the “exp…” of Clarence Thomas, and does that nice little dance on “[his] Muslim faith,” but doesn’t catch this. If The One is so smart, he ought to have caught that line during the pause after “lipstick.”

Whatever the case, it’s nice to see this thrown right back at them.

Tommygun on September 10, 2008 at 2:10 AM

The pause is what convinced me he absolutely meant to attack Palin with that line…not that I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, because I think he’s an immature person with questionable character.

Granted, Obama pauses a lot when he talks, but this really sounded like he was giving the audience a chance to “get it”. And “get it”, they certainly did.

capitalist piglet on September 10, 2008 at 2:24 AM

Congratulations, Mr. Hussein Obama,
.
With that sentence, you just infuriated a million undecided women into voting McCain-Palin. (Nobody can do stupid as well as can an arrogant yet vacuous person, having so much to be modest about.)

DavePa on September 10, 2008 at 3:19 AM

I’ll look into that. Love that old stuff. In fact, as a child it was WB that indroduced me to classical music. Good times….

Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:52 PM

KILL THE WABBIT, KILL THE WABBIT, KILL THE WABBIT!

“Of course, you realize that this means war…”

or even,

“He don’t know me very well, do he?”

Bugs Bunny, the quintessential American.

Palin is to Bugs Bunny

as

Obama is to Barney the Dinosaur (with apologies to Barney)

turfmann on September 10, 2008 at 3:45 AM

Disingenuous deniability denied. He meant it.

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Mark Jaquith on September 10, 2008 at 4:13 AM

ALLOTTAPUNDIT: “Having watched it, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt — more so than Kaus is, apparently — just because I hate when the left pulls this with innocent statements made by conservatives.”

RUBBISH, AP.

They destroyed George Allen for “macaca.”

Time to wipe out this GENUINE sleaze and send him back to the Chicago Machine where he belongs.

NO APOLOGIES.

Lockstein13 on September 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM

Obama photoshop fun!

Mr. Right on September 10, 2008 at 4:33 AM

RUBBISH, AP.

They destroyed George Allen for “macaca.”

Time to wipe out this GENUINE sleaze and send him back to the Chicago Machine where he belongs.

NO APOLOGIES.

Lockstein13 on September 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM

The ONLY apology I will accept is when he has to call her “Madam Vice-President”……let’s make it happen.

sven10077 on September 10, 2008 at 4:58 AM

Agreed, sven10077 4:58am, though calling her “Madam VP” would only be protocol, that is to say, a customarily accepted sign of respect, NOT an apology.

But it would be nice to see Zerobama eat-crow-for-breakfast.

But we digress….

NO excuses for this behavior. NEVER FORGET:

To say “politics is ‘hardball’” is redundant.

Lockstein13 on September 10, 2008 at 5:17 AM

Lockstein13 on September 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM

Of course we will never know but I thought George Allen sealed his own fate when he started using quotes from novels that Webb had written in a attempt to paint Webb as a deviate. It was trifling.

As to Sen. Obama’s statement, I don’t think it makes any difference if he was referring to Gov. Palin, The One, the smartest person ever should have known that’s how it would be perceived by a lot of folks. I keep coming back to his own reference in the This Week interview, something to the effect that they throw the stone and hide the hand. Referring to the use of subordinates to smear opponents. Which he as every intention of doing with 527’s. He just wasn’t even smart enough to use a subordinate in this case.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2008 at 5:55 AM

It’s obvious the slime has risen to the top of the swamp here. He can get away with it because you can’t put lipstick on slime.

oakpack on September 10, 2008 at 6:05 AM

It is time for Sarah to open up a big can of whup-ass on Obama for this remark.

Not with the gender card, but the “Obama insults everyone’s intelligence” card:

I don’t care where Obama puts his lipstick on change, but I do care about how he insults your intelligence.

I do care that he runs up a million dollars a day of your money in earmarks for his friends, including his running mate’s son.

I do care that he lectures everyone so sweetly about caring for the least of us, then votes to let babies born alive in an abortion die alone without any care whatsoever.

I do care that [fill in the blank.]

I do care that [fill in another blank.]

I do care that he insults your intelligence with all his changes he has made in position after he won the Democrat nomination.

Who can keep up with them all? And they just keep coming.

Right_of_Attila on September 10, 2008 at 6:15 AM

Cindy M., Speaking of interviews…worth all 5:25min.
O’Reilly/Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lqjuW2V7K4

Re: Allen. I had understood that it was the “remark” that did him in; certainly, there are usually a number of factors/events which can cause decline/failure.

I am interested in the additional point which you raise: The Webb book quotes may indeed have been a sign of desperation…just as “lipstick on a pig.” Obama needs to be hammered, hammered, hammered for this (metaphorically, please). He’s desperate, time to go for the jugular (even with 8 weeks left).

____________________________

I only hope “oakpack” is wrong…but, even though “you can’t put lipstick on slime,” you can still drain the swamp.

Lockstein13 on September 10, 2008 at 6:17 AM

I’ll look into that. Love that old stuff. In fact, as a child it was WB that indroduced me to classical music. Good times….

Ozprey on September 9, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Cartoons also had some nice Czech music.

Johan Klaus on September 10, 2008 at 6:24 AM

Lockstein13 on September 10, 2008 at 6:17 AM

Putting lipstick on slime is kinda like nailing jello to a tree. It just doesn’t stick.

oakpack on September 10, 2008 at 6:37 AM

Having watched it, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt — more so than Kaus is, apparently — just because I hate when the left pulls this with innocent statements made by conservatives.

AP

Oh, gimme a break!

You want to give him a break like its some sort of affirmative action requirement.

C’Mon AP, he’s got the “pig” and the “old fish” statements back to back. What? You think it was an ad lib moment? Just a coincidence?

Obama throws a hanging curve and you tell your best hitter to take the walk?

Ummmm, let’s win this, okay AP?

Saltysam on September 10, 2008 at 6:49 AM

Who said… Nov 2004

Vice President Dick Cheney quipped in a stump speech yesterday, with reference to John Kerry’s claims he would be a credible war president.

“As we say in Wyoming, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,”

Who asked… Sep 2008

Sarah Palin asked her audience.

“What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull?
Lipstick.

Who said… Sep 2008

Obama poked fun at McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” “It’s still a pig.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”

“We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

Who has more fun than I do listening to politicians? Sep 2008

J_Gocht on September 10, 2008 at 6:59 AM

Someone is going to have to take him aside pretty soon and tell him to stop bringing up Palin period. It’s totally derailed his campaign and shows how he handles adversity — he melts down.

CanadianGuy on September 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Lipstick first. He’s been melting down since Berlin.

Schadenfreude on September 10, 2008 at 6:59 AM

Who has more fun than I do listening to politicians? Sep 2008

J_Gocht on September 10, 2008 at 6:59 AM

I do. The ultimate fun is always mine.

Schadenfreude on September 10, 2008 at 7:02 AM

Plus J_Gocht, your logic is flawed. I wouldn’t put your samples in a Logic 101 book, for sure.

Schadenfreude on September 10, 2008 at 7:04 AM

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one because it is a very old joke that is used many times over. However, when you add that with Palin using the “lipstick on a pitbull” joke just last week and then Biden also using a reference to lipstick yesterday, I think it becomes clear that the intent was covertly malicious.

jparks1972 on September 10, 2008 at 7:21 AM

Yeah, Obama said this, stupid as it was. But think a minute,,, who does it really sound like??
His Pastor of 20 years Jeremiah Wright!

JellyToast on September 10, 2008 at 7:21 AM

Can you say PANIC! RATTLED LIGHTWEIGHT!

Liberals and the far left are AFRAID of STRONG WOMEN.

Has anyone told Obama he is running for President against McCain?

DVPTexFla on September 10, 2008 at 7:23 AM

Does anyone think it’s strange that Obama’s only options were to help his community (which wasn’t really his) or to get rich on Wall street? Wasn’t he fresh from Columbia with a secret GPA at this point and didn’t decide to go to Harvard until after his organizing began to disappoint him?

sleepyhead on September 10, 2008 at 7:28 AM

McCain has a new ad out on this: “Lipstick”

lodge on September 10, 2008 at 7:30 AM

Don’t Muslims hate pigs?

bloggless on September 10, 2008 at 7:39 AM

McCain Lipstick Ad.

zb42 on September 10, 2008 at 7:42 AM

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one because it is a very old joke that is used many times over. However, when you add that with Palin using the “lipstick on a pitbull” joke just last week and then Biden also using a reference to lipstick yesterday, I think it becomes clear that the intent was covertly malicious.

jparks1972 on September 10, 2008 at 7:21 AM

And when you add that Obama’s understands politics 101:

B. Obama- “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”

In this case he brought a diaper to a water balloon fight.
Bad move.

Saltysam on September 10, 2008 at 7:47 AM

And Muslims do hate pigs.

Disturb the Universe on September 10, 2008 at 7:54 AM

Wow. McCain actually said the same thing about Hilary a few months ago, almost word for word:

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,”

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/mccain_rolls_out_health_plan_a.html

How about dem apples? Don’t wet your pants.

ashain on September 10, 2008 at 7:55 AM

How about dem apples? Don’t wet your pants.

ashain on September 10, 2008 at 7:55 AM

about dat talking point….?

It’s been a coon’s age since I’ve heard Barry give a…..

what that ain’t pithy?

sven10077 on September 10, 2008 at 7:57 AM

ashain on September 10, 2008 at 7:55 AM

Good luck with that dog. It won’t hunt.

Saltysam on September 10, 2008 at 7:57 AM

…the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health care plan just last year,”

The fact that Obama’s camp was prepared with that defense indicates that they knew they exactly what they were doing.

ctmom on September 10, 2008 at 7:59 AM

This comment is late to the party, but I was too incensed about the Young Barry Obama’s comments last night to put together a coherent thought.

If you’re a 50-something-plus female, when you were in high school, one of the worst things a female at that time could be called was a “pig.” It was a “kinder and gentler” time I guess. So what I’m saying here is this: That word, whatever Young Barry Obama “meant” by it, is a word that resonates in a very visceral negative way with one of the main demographic groups that he needs to win over if he wants to win this election. Bad form, Barry. It was also self-indulgent and unnecessarily stupid.

labwriter on September 10, 2008 at 8:03 AM

Did a grown man that is running for POTUS really just use the “But He Daid It First” defense? That excuse never flew with my momma and I can’t imagine it flying here. Whether the comment was intentional or not, his response is a dumb one.

He should have tried either:

“It’s a common turn of phrase used in politics and was certainly not directed at Ms. Palin. I apologize for using cliches.”

Or

“Did she make a lipstick reference in her speech? I honestly don’t remember much of what she said as I tend to focus only on the substance of what is said and not the style.”

Either minimize the comment or minimize the fact Ms. Palin referenced it. Don’t say, “McCain did it so I can do it too!!!!”

JadeNYU on September 10, 2008 at 8:05 AM

Wow. McCain actually said the same thing about Hilary a few months ago, almost word for word:

Again,, it won’t matter what we debate here. It doesn’t matter how all the talking heads spin this. What will matter for Obama is how will middle America and American women in general take this remark!
American women will hear this as calling Sarah Palin a pig.
Spin it and twist it anyway you want. It was a dumb thing for him to say and makes him look like an incompetent, desperate angry man.
It also makes him sound a lot like his ol pastor Jeremiah Wright, the pastor he said he never listened to.

JellyToast on September 10, 2008 at 8:08 AM

Good luck with that dog. It won’t hunt.

Saltysam on September 10, 2008 at 7:57 AM

The double standard is pretty damn embarrassing.

ashain on September 10, 2008 at 8:08 AM

Of course it’s an old joke, nobody is saying Obama invented it (since we all know he has never said anything byng original – even Hopenchange was test driven by Axelrod’s other client, Deval Patrick). The point is:

You Do Not Say It About A Woman.

Republicans have been forced in this campaign to put many old expressions on the shelf, such as:

—Pot calling the kettle black
—Call a spade a spade

And rightfully so. Yet Barack Obama gets away with using expressions in the primaries like “throwing the kitchen sink” and “periodically…when she’s down” and “sweetie.” And now “lipstick on a pig.” Believe me, women are on to this game and we’re not going to let him get away with it anymore. The man is a misogynist, pure and simple – he was too filled with hate to win the election by taking Hillary Clinton as his running mate, and now he is blowing the election by showing that he cannot resist taking cheap shots at John McCain’s female running mate.

I’m just waiting for the “bitch set me up” line to come out.

rockmom on September 10, 2008 at 8:10 AM

The double standard is pretty damn embarrassing.

ashain on September 10, 2008 at 8:08 AM

You mean sort of like Barry flipping off Hillary and then shrugging but going into apoplexy over the “pallic symbols” in the celebrity ads?

yeah I can see that

sven10077 on September 10, 2008 at 8:17 AM

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