Obama on McCain/Palin: “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig”; Update: Video added; Update: “A pathetic attempt to play the gender card”
posted at 7:08 pm on September 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Perfectly innocent, I’m sure, just like Michelle’s bon mot last week about the importance of choosing a running mate who’s smart was perfectly innocent. Even though in that case, as in this one, reporters on the scene were so struck by the audience’s laughter they went out of their way to mention it.
Just your right-wing media exaggerating things as usual.
“That’s not change,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of what Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is offering.
“You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”
The crowd rose and applauded, some of them no doubt thinking he may have been alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.”
That’s Jake Tapper and a co-author, themselves “no doubt thinking” that Obama was kinda sorta calling Palin a pig. Otherwise they wouldn’t have wasted a post on what was otherwise a throwaway line at a random town hall.
And they’re not the only ones who took it that way.
Exit question: I defended him when he took heat from women for the “likeable enough” comment and his Annie Oakley goof on Hillary, but then came “sweetie” and now this. How come The One keeps running into these funny little misunderstandings with comments aimed at women politicians?
Update: Bear in mind as the inevitable nutroots naysaying about this gets going how insistent and ingenious they were in spinning secret offensive subtexts out of McCain’s ads. They’ll drill through six feet of bedrock to find “code” in something a conservative says, but they won’t dust off the topsoil of Obama’s comments.
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Update: Here’s the video; the McCain camp is already coming after him for it. He doesn’t overemphasize the line, as you might think he would if he really wanted to hammer the point, but then if he hammered the point he wouldn’t have plausible deniability. Having watched it, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt — more so than Kaus is, apparently — just because I hate when the left pulls this with innocent statements made by conservatives. But again, the point isn’t what he actually meant, which we can’t know; the point is how different those secret liberal racial/gender decoder rings seem to work when it’s one of their guys in the hot seat. David Bellavia, a war hero, got smeared with accusations of unconscious racism on MSNBC for making an innocent remark about Tiger Woods. Fortunately, the Messiah is above such unconscious impulses.
Update: And right on cue, here’s the governor of New York drilling through six feet of bedrock.
Update: Here’s Gov. Jane Swift laying into Obama on Team Maverick’s conference call this afternoon.
Update: The campaign that played the race card so skillfully against the Clintons suddenly locates its scruples.
“Enough is enough,” Obama senior adviser Anita Dunn said in a statement e-mailed to reporters
“The McCain campaign’s attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy – the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health care plan just last year,” she continued. “This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run.”
Here’s a story of McCain using it last year. Hillary, of course, hadn’t made any lipstick references to herself before then so there was no context for McCain to play off of.
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sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Well, you need classes too. I’m an old man!
Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Here’s the comeback to Obama:
“You can take the ears off a donkey, but it’s still an ass.”
PackerBronco on September 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Obama is UNFIT to lead
JihadKiller1s1k on September 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM
If he wasn’t guilty, he ought to have backpedaled the instant he realized that he’d–supposedly–unwittingly walked into a double entendre.
But he follows up with the fish line? Really? Because if that applies to McCain, it’s unconscionable, and if it’s another dig at Palin, it’s worse.
TexasDan on September 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM
McCains stupid to take this on directly. He has no leg to stand on that he said it about Palin. He doesn’t.
He should just let all the minions do it
Chuck Schick on September 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM
oops….yet another burden….feel like Sisyphus now….apologies.
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:22 PM
bingo we hurt Barry by insulting him and taking the goal…outwhining a democrat is like outstinking a skunk…you can do it but why?
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Awwww, Poor Bill looks so downcast and somber…is the little baby gonna cry?
surrounded on September 9, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Is this a trap?
The lunatics at Kos are saying that McCain has twice referred to Hillary in this matter and this is a trap.
My pessimism meter just rose, er fell, er, whatever happens to it when I get just a bit more pessimistic.
aquaviva on September 9, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Ew. I’m glad I missed that.
Apparently the Right Reverend Wright likes white chicks better than Barry does.
baldilocks on September 9, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Saw him re: Ayers on O’rielly.
He can lie with the best of them. Right out of Alynski’s playbook. Lie, lie, lie. Whatever it takes.
marklmail on September 9, 2008 at 9:25 PM
How soon will Biden drops him from the ticket?
Little Boomer on September 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Dear Governor Paterson, was Saul Alinsky black?
Connie on September 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM
No it’s the context and Obama’s body language and delivery.
McCain camp just cant get off message with this. Put it out and walk away. NO WHINING!
Drudge knew it had legs.
186k on September 9, 2008 at 9:28 PM
the smoking gun that Obama’s remark was a direct attack on Palin.
Democratic Congressman Russ Carnahan on Tuesday – introducing Joe Biden at a campaign event – ripped into Palin’s record and punctuated it with this snarky jab. “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” he said. Obama himself used similar langauge later in the day about the McCain-Palin reform rhetoric, saying “You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said. “It’s still a pig.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13315.html
The Obama campaign is calculating that it must reckon with Palin and the big public boost she has provided McCain in the past week. When Palin was first named, the Obama staff attacked, then he pulled back. Now, reflecting the threat posed by Palin, Obama is taking the unusual route of attacking the opposition’s No. 2, a job that would more typically be left to Biden, who focused more on McCain and President Bush.
unseen on September 9, 2008 at 9:28 PM
what an asswipe. He’s losing it, and all he can do is act like a ten year old bully. Anyone who’s followed his campaign for the last 15+ month’s recognizes his ugly for what it is; just ask Hillary.
anniekc on September 9, 2008 at 9:29 PM
If what is going on at this site with so many of the comments is representative of America, then America is over.
HalJordan on September 9, 2008 at 9:29 PM
I would tend to agree with Allah’s take on this… BUT, shouldn’t we also consider that we’re talking about The One, here. His only claim to fame is speaking. And the left excuses his nuanced and stammering answers to real questions as being “thoughtful”. So let’s just agree that he knew what he was saying. Now, if Palin wasn’t a woman, this would obviously not be news, so I don’t like the double standard outrage, HOWEVER, we all know about Palin’s pit bull/lipstick comment from the RNCC, and you’d have to be stupid to believe Obama doesn’t know about the comment.
So, when you consider all of this, and if you believe The One is such an intelligent thinker and speaker, you’d have to assume he knew what he was doing… or that it would have at least hit him as he said it, causing an immediate follow-up to stop any potential controversy. I haven’t had any respect for this lying SOB for quite a while, but after he let Biden attack Palin using her Down’s child today, he’s really starting to piss me off.
RightWinged on September 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM
I’m wondering if there is video of McCain using the phrase in regards to Hillary’s health care plan. I don’t think Obama meant this innocently, given the way he smiled and then told his follow up joke. But if McCain is on video using the same phrase it would be best not to go after this himself. I’m sure there will be some good YouTube clips coming soon.
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM
The Palin link was intentional. We know for sure because it connected with the crowd and he didn’t look surprised. Not at all.
John on September 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I was initially inclined to give BO the benefit of the doubt, but then I read the quote in context. Most people would give him a pass about the old fish remark, but I don’t think people will feel the same way about Obama insinuating that a female VP candidate is a pig. Stupid. And for what?
Infidoll on September 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM
The Wapo is excusing Obama’s commment as “a common turn of phrase, one that Obama has used for years,” and cites every possible example of its use over the years, including one by McCain, but fails to mention the Plain aimed uses by Democratic operatives cited in this thread earlier. CBS thinks nothing of it.
But, Reuters (!) seems to get it, or at least that it might have been a possible dig, given his audience’s previous reaction whenever he mentioned Palin’s name.
So, whether intentional or not, I think Obama’s going to get away with it as neither a gaffe, nor a slur, and will feel enabled to do even more.
Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM
“It’s not about experience, it’s all about the JUDGMENT”.
- Barack Obama a long time ago
(this judgment is going to get us into world war III)
nemo239 on September 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM
And if they wise up, Obama is going to stay glued to his teleprompter from now on. Just like they’ve kept Michelle Obama from talking and making ‘mistakes’ like her ‘i’m finally proud of my country’ remark.
Obama has weeks and weeks to prepare for his 3 town halls with McCain. I think he’s doing what he can to not make mistakes like this. But they are only going to occur when he’s off prompter.
wise_man on September 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM
The politics of pork and change.
Texas Rainmaker on September 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM
This guys is an idiot, he’s probably trying to talk like an average Joe, it doesn’t come off too well. He IS unfit to Lead…
reshas1 on September 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM
then vote, donate, propagate….
HIT FAST
HIT HARD
HIT OFTEN
FIGHT GOP FIGHT!
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Somebody posted a link to that story earlier today. I’ve been waiting for a thread on it. Wright seduced his current wife after she and her husband (who were Wright’s congregants) came to him for marriage counseling. Now he’s been committing adultery with the (white) wife of a fellow pastor. The man’s a total sleazeball, and he had the nerve to stand up in a pulpit for years and lecture “Amerikkka” about its poor morals? What a hypocrite. And this is the low-life that Barry Obama chose to be his spiritual mentor. And he’s calling Gov. Palin a pig? I’m sure Barry knows all about pigs, having wallowed in the filth with them for so many years.
AZCoyote on September 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM
carbon_footprint on September 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM
When you look at polls, you look at trends. The trend by Bambi and Biden is to use lipstick on purpose. I can’t wait for Michelle to come soon and say, “Guess what, Sarah? I wear lipstick, too!” Ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
SouthernGent on September 9, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Demanding an apology is not playing the victim. It just puts the other on notice. It lets him know you know just what he did.
And that lame crack about McCain doing the same thing will not fly. If it was that easy or simple or obvious so many people would not have noticed this at all.
McCain just said that you could put bring back Hillary’s plan, but it would still be the same bad idea. That was his reference.
Obama’s was quite different.
And this is Mr. Sensitive. Can not even be seen in the same ad with a white woman. nosiree, not pretty boy.
Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I read the Obama’s comment before I saw the video and said naaa..stupid but naaaa…, then I viewed the video and it’s clear what Obama was saying.
186k on September 9, 2008 at 9:39 PM
If letting Sarah be at a minimum subtly grouped with a pig is what it takes to unleash the beast known as Aunt Esther I’ll take that insult….
we get Esther off prompter the same week as Barry the race is over.
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:41 PM
From The DailyKos
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:42 PM
That might be the trap they’re talking about.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Watch his body language right before he says it. He knew exactly what he was doing.
jamc1316 on September 9, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Here’s the update from the Obama campaign…
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Palin_Truth_Squad_strikes_back_at_Obama_comment.html
What do you think?
Marsh on September 9, 2008 at 9:44 PM
HalJordan on September 9, 2008 at 9:29 PM
As the left has said this is WAR. They were the ones smearing Palin for weeks now over every little thing she said. They twisted her prayer to the troops, they attacked her religion. Hell they even attacked her resposne to Fannie Mae. they are the ones that said they were bring a gun to a knife fight. When the right pulls its own guns out they run away and weep under the bed. the left remind me of a little barking poodle. when the big dog shows up they run away.
unseen on September 9, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Loxondonta:
It depends on what you mean by “get away with it”. I don’t think that he will admit what he did. I doubt that his followers will admit to it in public either. But it makes him look stupid and that is not really all that inspiring.
Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Hey folks! This is an ancient slur. The second cave politician who used it thought it was funny, too. The significance is Bambi’s desperation. He has a teleprompter moment, “er, unh, and, uh” and the best he can produce is this?
He’s running!! Really running now. Not just as an exercise in Alinsky theory but, finally, for his political life. This is what happens when too pretty Mama’s boys step into the sea of reality.
Bye, bye, Bambi.
Now let’s work on Hose and Senate races.
Caststeel on September 9, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Thanks for that. It was a magical and historical moment…it was deeply impassioned and, unmistakably, he meant every word.
surrounded on September 9, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I dislike most everything I know about Obama, but this is silly.
He used an old saying. It’s been around for yeeearrrs.
PC kneejerking.
Just like with Oprah.
go ahead…call me a foolish troll. (eyeroll)
bridgetown on September 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM
No time to read all the comments, so if this has already been covered, my apologies:
But what I want to know, now that obama himself has brought up the lipstick thing:
Why does HE use that unflattering shade of blue lipstick on his own lips?
The only reason I can think that a GQ metrosexual sort of guy like him would wear blue lipstick is because his mean dominatrix wife makes him do it, even in public.
/snark
LegendHasIt on September 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Fight, not whine….
donate, volunteer, propagate….
the best revenge is Vice-President Sarah Palin killing his bill in a tiebreaker if he ever shows up after he loses.
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:48 PM
BTW Let’s end this thread. Way too much effort devoted to the turd’s 2,587th slip. “Only a distraction.”
The Senate and House races need attention. Help these folks since this is a tri-parite (?) government. Leave no Democrat “unstoned”.
Caststeel on September 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM
IMO Obama was trying to be all ‘down home just one of the folks’ with this comment. He attempts to be folksy every once in a while and has been worse lately. It may not be a slam at Palin, and I don’t think it is, but it comes off as condescending. Sort of, “I’ll just talk all folksy and they’ll vote for me.”
Deanna on September 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM
yup….
ad mocking Barry’s Big Day in Belin…”phallic”…..
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM
I think Camp Obama was trying to lure McCain into making accusations of sexism so Obama could retort with McCain’s “lipstick on a pig” retort towards Hillary.
I think they’re are trying to paint the McCain camp as hyper-sensitive towards everything sexist- and thus nutualize Palin.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM
If letting Sarah be at a minimum subtly grouped with a pig is what it takes to unleash the beast known as Aunt Esther I’ll take that insult….
we get Esther off prompter the same week as Barry the race is over.
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I can’t stop laughing :)) Wow, I really needed to calm down and lighten up.
Agree completely, btw.
Cody1991 on September 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM
I think you probably have a point, but i’m not looking this gift horse too closely in the mouth…is that wrong?
surrounded on September 9, 2008 at 9:50 PM
I think Slick Willy used that excuse one night, “Honest, honey, they had a pig over at the Agriculture Department and I was posing for a picture and I guess it must have gotten some lipstick on my collar.”
flyoverland on September 9, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Oops House
But hose has a certain ring to it, too.
Caststeel on September 9, 2008 at 9:51 PM
This whole thing was a weak trap set by Obama. Sandbagging.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:51 PM
bridgetown:
A lot of things are old sayings, it depends on the context they are used in as to whether or not some offense is intended. And anyone who saw this whole thing, could clearly see the context.
Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Bingo!
davenp35 on September 9, 2008 at 9:52 PM
McCain commenting on Reaganomics to a newsie: “Oh that was a coon’s age ago…”
come on barry it’s just an expression…
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I think Camp Obama was trying to lure McCain into making accusations of sexism so Obama could retort with McCain’s “lipstick on a pig” retort towards Hillary.
I think they’re are trying to paint the McCain camp as hyper-sensitive towards everything sexist- and thus nutualize Palin.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM
That’s what I was thinking too. But, will it work?
Marsh on September 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I think you might be right. If that’s the case than Obama really is just a dirty politician (which we already knew), but he may be smarter than we gave him credit for. As long as Palin doesn’t play the victim card during the race McCain’s camp should still be able to use this against Obama.
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Video: Palin, Obama & Lipstick (together)
You stay classy, Obama.
Cuffy Meigs on September 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Everybody-
Go back and read:
and then read:
This was an attempt to trap McCain.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Biden used the Lipstick phrase another day. I have to dig up the video though
William Amos on September 9, 2008 at 9:54 PM
You can take the banana oil out of Obama, but he’s still a schmuck.
profitsbeard on September 9, 2008 at 9:55 PM
It’s about as common as calling an elitist “uppity”… but they got their burkas in a wad over that one.
Texas Rainmaker on September 9, 2008 at 9:55 PM
carbon_footprint on September 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Thanks for that. I got lost in lipstick for a minute there. The way you laid it out it should be a poster. I just e-mailed it to my family and friends.
I think a lot of this can be blamed on Obama’s refusal to have town hall debates.. remember that? He’s trying to be more manly now to make up for it and he is just acting like an angry boy.
nemo239 on September 9, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I think, going by the conference call, has taken a weak tack on this. The strength of this argument is in how consistent the stream of double entendre’ have been, given Biden’s, Gutman’s, Axlerod’s and other comments, right back to the very first issued by the campaign shortly after the announcement.
Any one of the comments, on their own, has plausible deniblity. But, when you look at the full stream, it’s clear that there is a calculated campaign to belittle Gov. Palin.
Also, anyone who is questioning media bias need only listen to the questions on that conference call and the tone of the reporters asking the questions.
Damiano on September 9, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Fiveways:
Yeah, but he had to act like a complete ass to get a response? The One, the great orator has to explain something like this when Drudge runs that headline?
Believe it or not most Americans do not want to vote for a man who goes to so much trouble to attack the other guy’s VP..especially if he does it in such a clumsy and obnoxious sort of way.
Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Right!
McCain needs to be careful to NOT overplay this.
They are trying to paint Palin as an hysterical hyper-sensitive woman.
DON’T FALL FOR IT!
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 9:57 PM
McCain should just mention it tell his voters…”you can compliment the Senator’s wit by donating to Sarah and I” and moving on….
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Thank you for seeing the pattern though you allow for the plausible deniability.
I would bet a million dollars on this if we could get internal campaign emails. Anyone who knows political hardball knows you take the signature moments and phrases of the opponent and destroy them in the minds of the people.
That’s why Trig was cleverly attacked by the Kos minions first. He represented the initial danger.
You’re dealing with a woman though and people said her kids aren’t fair game. Oops, too late. OK, so now the woman herself is the new danger and seen as fair game for open attack. The Obama people haven’t been focused on McCain for a week. He’s meaningless now. She though is now a pitbull and a barracuda in the minds of America and is devouring Obama’s career. That mental image must be destroyed and she must be pushed over the edge mentally, because they think she can’t handle the national stage if it means her and her whole family will be constantly insulted and ridiculed for 4-16 years.
It’s a good amoral strategy if she were a weak woman.
But, here’s the thing, you just cannot do this to a woman in America if it means you cleverly insinuate that she’s really just a pig followed by a smelly fish reference, even if you say you’re just responding to animal nicknames she started or think you can get away with saying it was about Bush and McCain.
Even if she were not the focus of constant hardball sexism, it still would be out of line.
econavenger on September 9, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 9:45 PM
What I mean is that no matter what Obama says that might be bad, it will simply be swept aside as irrelevant, which seems to be happening; or will be used to paint the McCain/Palin response as whining, which also seems to be happening; or worse, will be used to criticize McCain for his past usage of the phrase, which is perfectly acceptable for Obama, but evidence of sexism for McCain, which also seems to be happening.
I guess I’m disheartened at the notion that no matter whether Obama’s “lipstick” remark was simply inartfull, an insensitive gaffe, or an intentional slur, the MSM seem to be the writers of history these days.
Thanks. That slipped my mind during this thread.(Did anyone mention I’m OLD?)
Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 9:59 PM
I thought he was referring to Nancy Pelosi.
Fuquay Steve on September 9, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Beckel said it, why not Barry O?
TinMan13 on September 9, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Sarah should respond, “They REALLY don’t Senator McCain and me to go to Washington to clean things up, do they?” The more worried they are, the harder they are going to fight it.
stenwin77 on September 9, 2008 at 10:00 PM
and that would be a good throwaway line….
“leave the Speaker alone Senator O’bama”
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I agree- but we don’t want the McCain Camp to LOOK like they are protecting the “poor helpless woman”-
BECAUSE (and mark my words here) the NEXT thing they will say is- “Well if Palin is THAT sensitive, then how do you expect her to lead?”
This is an attempt to make her look emotional and weak!
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Thanks. I think it was a twofer: McCain & Palin.
Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Hold your martyrdom for now.
There are simply too many lipstick/pig references by Democrats in the short time since Palin made her lipstick-pitbull ad-lib during the RNC. Beckel made a pig one yesterday and Juan Cole made one today using lipstick.
Now that might sound a little tin-foil hattish, but ever since the drilling controversy came up and, as a result, every Dem great and small began using the phrase “we can’t drill our way out of this,” many observers figure out that the Dems send out a list of things to say–the proverbial ‘talking points.’
This time it was lipstick/pig references and it has backfired on Obama.
baldilocks on September 9, 2008 at 10:02 PM
I thought the saying was you can put perfume on a pig but its still a pig .
BHO is an ass and will always be one .
Mojack420 on September 9, 2008 at 10:02 PM
correct…let’s leave the hypersensitive PC insta-victim reflex to Barry…there was black in that commercial…O’bama
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I had to think I believe Obama used the Lipstick joke the night of the Michigan speech. I will have to go get video again
William Amos on September 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Five WAys:
It does not matter if it is a trap. It is clumsy. It is stupid and it follows days and days of silly attacks and over the top crap directed at Palin. I am not saying McCain needs to challenge Obama to a duel or something, but considering the behavior of the Obama campaign for the last several days they are obviously the ones who created this situation. The more Obama says about it, the more that clip will be played.
Terrye on September 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Yep!
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Dude, it’s been 12 days.
SouthernDem on September 9, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Team McCain’s communications team sucks. I think we can all agree on that. They were alpha and they played beta. They are retarded…
ninjapirate on September 9, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Agree 100%. No whining from McCain/Palin, especially from Palin. At this point, I’m sorry I got upset by this. I have to remember: liberals can say anything, conservatives can’t.
Loxodonta on September 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM
No comparison to McCain.
I’ll say it again Obama’s delivery says it all.
Where is Hillary by the way? Oh that’s right Obama wouldn’t put a woman on the ticket.
186k on September 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM
the brains are either John or Schmidt….anyway nut up and clock ‘em against later.
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM
As discussed at Ace’s:
By all means, McCain/Palin should stay above the fray and ignore it.
But there is NO REASON for US not to mass email and carpet-bomb every comment thread in the world with this.
Cuffy Meigs on September 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM
I agree it was clumsy. The key here is for McCain to temper the criticism WITHOUT making Palin look sensitive.
It could backfire for Obama. The shear lack of sophistication of this trap reeks of desperation.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Fiveways: I don’t think this will work the way the Obama team hoped it would. Everyone who heard that clip were shocked. And that was BEFORE McCain said anything about it. To accuse McCain of playing the gender card would be to accuse ALL of us of it too. I don’t think McCain could have or should have ignored it. It was so freaking obvious, especially coming on the heals of all the other garbage they’ve thrown at her.
Marsh on September 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM
I agree. He did the same thing to Hillary during the primaries. At one of his speeches, he made a smarmy remark about Hillary, then raised his middle finger to his face. The crowd went wild, laughing and cheering, while he stood there and smirked. Later he claimed that he was just scratching his face, he wasn’t giving Hillary the bird.
He knew exactly what he was doing then, just as now. He takes these low-class swipes at women in a manner that’s calculated to give him plausible deniability. The man’s a sleazebag.
AZCoyote on September 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM
This coming from the same group that claims McCain and Palin disrespected Jesus Christ and all community organizers?
Funny.
I do question the instant “McCain did it too” response.
186k on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Thank you Ace. It’s good to know he caught the same thing I did. ….yep…the gut still works…..
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
This creep should be very familiar with pigs considering his background and choice of mates. His filthy mouth should never utter Palin and pig in the same sentence. I truly hate this guy now.
UnEasyRider on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Note to Anita: It’s one thing to use the expression when talking about a candidate’s policy, quite another when talking about a candidate and his running mate who happens to be a woman, you tool.
SuperCool on September 9, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Right now CNN is saying McCain’s camp is blowing this out of proportion, and that he said the same thing about Clinton’s health care plan. They’re basically giving Obama a pass and telling McCain to stop whinning and show Palin to the press.
If, somehow, this was Obama’s plan when scripting those comments… damn.
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2008 at 10:10 PM
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