New McCain ad: Obama wants to teach kindergarteners “comprehensive sex education”
posted at 9:31 pm on September 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The only thing I dislike more than defending The One is defending him over and over again on the same charge. This is a perennial accusation against him, dating first from his Senate race with Alan Keyes, then recycled last year by Romney, and now coopted by Maverick for a little culture-war magic. David Brody at CBN wrote a useful post the last time it came up: Essentially, “comprehensive” sex education for young kids would go no further than teaching them what constitutes inappropriate touching by adults. To watch this, you’d think Barry wants to give them coloring books titled, “Why Does It Burn When I Pee?”
The obligatory Obama camp outrage, via HuffPo: “It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why.”
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AP would rather take all the crap the leftards can levy than nail Barry’s balls to the floorboard….
a lot of us don’t want to see it played that way.
sven10077 on September 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Eh – watching it again, not as bad. I recant my unforced error assessment, especially if it is a web only ad.
Editor on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
This ad must have been the idea of the McCain campaign moron who didn’t know the difference between the Walter Reed Medical Center in DC and the Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, California. The result of that idiocy was that McCain began his convention speech with that awful green background attributable to a lawn associated with a building nobody could identify until after the speech.
Every time things are going good….
BuckeyeSam on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Read the article I linked above and you’ll see what is age appropriate for a 6 year old in Massachusetts and see what happens when you as a parent disagree with their judgment. You can also go on YouTube (I’m assuming it’s still there) and see for yourself the actually lessons being taught in a kindergarten in Cambridge, MA.
TheBigOldDog on September 9, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Oh, you must be the official sunshine-pumper. I think you’d fit in better with the Obamaton crowd.
WisCon on September 9, 2008 at 10:10 PM
The same people who said three months ago that MaCain “will not fight back or attack”, now say he shouldnt fight back or attack.
Vigilante on September 9, 2008 at 10:11 PM
I think they are called these strange creatures who are being left out of the mix…………… mythology once called them “parents”.
(… and yes, I am a parent of a six year old, and I take full responsibility for his education in all aspects of this world.)
Seven Percent Solution on September 9, 2008 at 10:11 PM
McCain is absolutely right to point this out. Public schools have a million problems and not one of them stems from lack of sex education for kindergarteners. This is just more “for the children claptrap” to make the party that worships at the alter of abortion look as though the care about children, they don’t.
The problems with the public schools need to be prioritized and worked in that order, this problem isn’t even on the list. I also don’t trust the public schools with sex education, especially with all the perversion they are already trying to push on kids. Does anyone remember Joycelyn Elders that wanted to teach kids how to masturbate? I’m with Romney on this one, watch the video here.
These are the same public schools that want to teach that homosexually is normal. No matter what you believe about that, the fact is, that goes directly against Biblical teachings and Christian parents don’t want their kids to hear it. If the public schools can’t teach religion then they can’t teach anti-religion either. And if the Public schools can’t be the servant of the people and respect their wishes on such matter then its time to close them down.
Maxx on September 9, 2008 at 10:11 PM
You don’t want Obama’s record exposed? Why not? The other side has dozens of people trying to undermine Palin right now. I don’t feel bad for Obama, let him explain what his sex ed plan was about? What is age appropriate? I am sure he has no answer.
Here is a quote from an ABC article on this matter:
“‘Nobody’s suggesting that kindergartners are going to be getting information about sex in the way that we think about it,’ Obama said. ‘If they ask a teacher ‘where do babies come from,’ that providing information that the fact is that it’s not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing. Although again, that’s going to be determined on a case by case basis by local communities and local school boards.’”
So he wants to pass a bill to give license to whatever the school board comes up with? How in the hell would he know what that would be or how “appropriate” it might be. The bill failed and for good reason. This is all fair game.
echosyst on September 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Does anyone really believe a far left wing liberal like Obama would stop at “inappropriate touching?” Of course not, that’s just to get in the door. Only the most naive and inexperienced political observers would believe that it would end with “inappropriate touching.”
Capitalist Infidel on September 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM
So are you guyz saying Bill’s passed/supported by a candidate for President are off limits ….
Humn… That’s a new one to me… Guess I better catch up…
Guess we better get back to talking about the kids of a VP candidate instead… What was McCain thinking about making an ad about an actual bill by Obama… What a cretin…
sarc. meter @ 10
Y314K on September 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I have a lot to say on this subject, as I’ve served 6 years on the Health Advisory committee for my public school district.
AP, you should not defend him in this matter until you have actually reviewed the curriculums that far-left liberal ideology has out there available for use in public schools. Literally, everything and anything goes. It is no joke that some curriculums begin indoctrinating kindergarten children with ideology “if it feels good, do it…and let us show you how”. I have seen these curriculums and have fought against them being used in my district. It is truly outrageous. Fortunately I was able to keep the nasty stuff out of my district with the help of some other conservative minded parents on the committee.
I strongly believe in the latency period and too much info too soon is extremely damaging to our kids.
If anyone would like to educate themselves on the liberal ideology that they wish to indoctrinate our kids with, check out SEICUS and Kinsey.
I hate comprehensive sex ed, but I live in a realistic world and realize that I have to compromise a little being in a public school district. I can “opt-out” my kids from anything I wish. Obviously, this topic is best taught at home.
That’s my 2 cents.
ConMom on September 9, 2008 at 10:13 PM
And if you were in Massachusetts and disagreed with their detrmination of what is appropriate for your 6 year old you could find yourself in jail. Read this from the Ultra Left Wing Boston Globe:
Arrested father had point to make
TheBigOldDog on September 9, 2008 at 10:14 PM
I should mention our district is “abstinence based” through some hard-fought negotiations and parents showing up at school board meetings. I am pretty happy with the final product.
ConMom on September 9, 2008 at 10:16 PM
It is sad that AP spends about 1/2 of his time on Hot Air apologizing for what he sees as us dumb ass Christian Conservatives. It seems that every atheist I know is a condescending prick with delusions of grandeur. This election is a battle for the heart and soul of this nation and these issues are part of that. It is a moral confrontation and what gets taught to our children is definitely relevant.
echosyst on September 9, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Kinda like Bill Clinton “inappropriate touching” Monica Lewinski………. it was never “sex, it was just “inappropriate touching.”
What say you Barak “Feeldoe” Obama…………?
Seven Percent Solution on September 9, 2008 at 10:18 PM
AP, do you have kids? I do and I do not want Barack Obama or any teacher for that matter, to teach my kids about anything regarding sex. We can handle that.
poljunkie on September 9, 2008 at 10:18 PM
They need to skip this crap and get on with his 3 time vote to deny health care for babies who survived abortions.
FiveWays on September 9, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Are you a Frank Zappa fan AP?
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And oh yes, a big reason why I like this site is because I see a little something called fairness here, which is a rarity in the political blogosphere.
toliver on September 9, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Have you been introduced to Saint Olaf?
a capella on September 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Hi again.
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Dave,
The problem is that people don’t trust Obama with defining “age appropriate”. While I don’t think that’s good enough reason for an ad, it’s a reasonable position considering for one, his lies about his extreme pro-abortion/infanticide record
aikidoka on September 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Call me old school but I like to read the dang bill
There are several troubling passages in the bill.
Bottom line, (IMO) the ad is on solid ground.
Diogenes of Sinope on September 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Obama voted yes to this version in committee: “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.” (S.B. 99: Illinois Senate Health And Human Services Committee, Passed, 7-4-0, 3/6/03, Obama Voted Yea)
So the McCain campaign ad is accurate. I don’t see how there can be an argument that Obama didn’t vote for it.
It was later amended to this:
7 (a) If any school district provides courses of
8 instruction designed to promote wholesome and comprehensive
9 understanding of the emotional, psychological, physiological,
10 hygienic and social responsibility aspects of family life,
11 then such courses of instruction shall include the teaching
12 of prevention of unintended pregnancy and all options related
13 to unintended pregnancy,
as the alternatives to abortion,14 appropriate to the various grade levels; and whenever such
15 courses of instruction are provided in any of grades K 6
16 through 12, then such courses also shall include age
17 appropriate instruction on the prevention of sexually
18 transmitted infections, including the prevention,
19 transmission and spread of HIV
AIDS.Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
You couldn’t be more wrong Allah. I didn’t know until I saw this ad that Obama was for sex education in kindergarten. Of all the legislation he has voted “present” on, THIS of all bills gets his approval. This tells me a lot about Obama and none of its good.
Parents will want to know this about Obama whether it violates Allah’s sense of fairness or not. I think the public schools have shown us we can’t even trust them to teach our kids math, why should we trust them with sex education? The public schools are failing our children in every area, yet Democrats support bolstering education in the area of sex education, its outrageous.
Maxx on September 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Wow, the same could be said about you Dave. How’d that meeting with your math teacher about percentages and ratios about approval ratings go? Did you learn anything? I’m guessing you haven’t learned anything about morals and decency.
MobileVideoEngineer on September 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I don’t trust the liberal teachers out there. I can’t. I have seen the damage of what they have done time and time again. I have a Christian friend who’s very liberal dad is on the school board in a major US capital city. He would tell me about some of the things the school board would try to get into the curriculum with his dad leading the charge.
I do not and can not trust a large percentage of our school boards decisions.
I still remember my high school principal having an affair (admitted to btw) with a friend of mine.. which was still going on at our 10 year reunion. I remember one of my teachers eating marijuana brownies at an after school function, right in front of me. We have teacher sex scandals all over the place now days.
I won’t trust a public school with my child or anyone else’s.
GoodBoy on September 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
You’re obnoxious, but you ain’t heavy, you’re his brother.
Tav on September 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Roger that………… here in California, the progressive liberal teacher’s union are trying to re-invent the term “education”. You would not believe the battles, that after working a long day and paying your taxes to pay their salaries, you have to attend every single teacher’s meeting, board meeting, PTA meeting, just to keep a handle on it.
Most important, when my son asks “why?”…….. No matter how tired, or distracted, or frustrated I get, I always answer with the truth, and the belief’s of this Country that I was raised on……
Seven Percent Solution on September 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Ha ha – now the spot has been debunked into the toilet.
Every article McCain has chosen to trumpet except for on actually sh*ts on him more than Obama.
Heck of a job, McBush.
Dave Rywall on September 9, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Dave says: “Ha ha – now the spot has been debunked into the toilet.”
How is this not accurate?
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Obama voted yes to this version in committee: “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.” (S.B. 99: Illinois Senate Health And Human Services Committee, Passed, 7-4-0, 3/6/03, Obama Voted Yea)
So the McCain campaign ad is accurate. I don’t see how there can be an argument that Obama didn’t vote for it.
It was later amended to this:
7 (a) If any school district provides courses of
8 instruction designed to promote wholesome and comprehensive
9 understanding of the emotional, psychological, physiological,
10 hygienic and social responsibility aspects of family life,
11 then such courses of instruction shall include the teaching
12 of prevention of unintended pregnancy and all options related
13 to unintended pregnancy, as the alternatives to abortion,
14 appropriate to the various grade levels; and whenever such
15 courses of instruction are provided in any of grades K 6
16 through 12, then such courses also shall include age
17 appropriate instruction on the prevention of sexually
18 transmitted infections, including the prevention,
19 transmission and spread of HIV AIDS.
Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Gute gnade!!
You are not insinuating that I was threatening to write you off are you?
The one thing you Atheists are missing from a Deist’s core values is courage.
Show me an Atheist commentator surrounding sex/education, and a total commitment to destroying the liberals premises in here, and then I’ll retract the above statement.
You cannot, because you just wish the religious people would not be involved in politics, because in your world view that is the problem.
But since the religious people won’t go away in politics, your view is in the minority and therefore technically voided out. Which is why you’re whining.
Get over yourself and quit hiding your nuts like Obama.
If you want to win the influence of the day, you have to quit harping on a single issue, ie, religious influence and instead, vote with, and pull for the majority good here.
Like I said.. get over yourself, (look it up if you don’t know what it means).
Mcguyver on September 9, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Well, I was right. McCain has come from a completely different direction with a new attack. Obama gave a big old speech on education today full of wonky goodness and liberal NEA claptrap. Bet he doesn;t want folks to now the REST of the story, does he? McCain is helpfully filling in the blanks.
If this jerk thinks he can skate to the White House without his paper-thin record actually being examined, he needs to think again. The media obvioously are not going to do it so McCain is going to have to.
rockmom on September 9, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Another “Don’t pay attention to the truth that is presented because I don’t want to offend the “Great One”" post by AP. I swear, this is getting absolutely ridiculous. Try actually learning the facts Allah instead of spewing a bunch of “Hot Air” so to speak.
I wouldn’t be surprised if 90% of the people who are outraged by this ad haven’t even read the bill. Way to listen to the lame stream media and Obama’s surrogates. First you don’t want to talk about him being Muslim and yell “STICK TO THE ISSUES.” So what is the stupid excuse now that John is going after Obama on the issues?
MobileVideoEngineer on September 9, 2008 at 10:30 PM
dude, stop confusing drywall with facts!
:-)
:-)
Buckaroo on September 9, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:28 PM
—————-
The fu*king thing says:
“appropriate to the various grade levels”
APPROPRIATE.
TO.
THE.
VARIOUS.
GRADE.
LEVELS.
So sure, it’s accurate.
Next.
Dave Rywall on September 9, 2008 at 10:32 PM
You seem to casually overlook that Obama voted yes to a version without “appropriate to the various grade levels”.
Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:35 PM
not withstanding the open ended question of “what IS appropriate to the various grade levels?”
Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Clearly AP takes Obama’s assertion that all material would be “age appropriate” at face value. Of course Obama is a proven liar, so I have to question’s AP’s judgment on that. We have been burned by the libs in academia we can’t even count. It sometimes takes years to de-program our kids and we have folks just “trusting” people like Obama.
echosyst on September 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM
drywall, newsflash — about 50% of the country laughs at the sleaze your nihilistic, collectivistic gang of thugs considers “appropriate” …
Buckaroo on September 9, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Hey Drywall, ANSWER THE QUESTION! WHAT IS AGE APPROPRIATE IN YOUR WORLD FOR A SIX YEAR OLD?
echosyst on September 9, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Here is plenty of reasons not to trust the public schools to teach anything about sex at all, let along kindergarteners that could so easily be abused by the teaches under the guise of such a program. Read this entire list and see if you still want your five year old exposed to a program where teachers could so easily take advantage of them and simply claim it was part of the “program.”
Maxx on September 9, 2008 at 10:37 PM
“You seem to casually overlook that Obama voted yes to a version without “appropriate to the various grade levels”.”
again with the facts — yer killin’ him!
:-)
Buckaroo on September 9, 2008 at 10:38 PM
I wanna be an Internet Ranger
Live the life of keystroke pushin’ danger
But keep me out of the drop zone
Cause’ I just wanna stay at home
Tav on September 9, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Dave: do you acknowledge that Obama voted for a version that did not include the “appropriate” clause?
Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Next? OK…………….. from an earlier post, and since you like using profanity so much, I will just call you “Coward“:
Seven Percent Solution on September 9, 2008 at 10:39 PM
That “appropriate” clause-less version passed the committee and went back to the floor where it could have been passed into law. How is that inaccurate Dave?
Ridiculous on September 9, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Yeah. What a scumbag.
Besides, if you can’t figure out masturbation on your own, maybe you need to be held back a grade. Or two.
jaleach on September 9, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I like how they removed the line
as the alternatives to abortion
in this part of the bill:
We wouldn’t want children knowing they could give their children up for adoption as opposed to the MANY great ways of having an abortion.
Sorry, Allah, Obama should be on the hook for this crap.
Vincenzo on September 9, 2008 at 10:43 PM
McCain became my hero when he put out this ad. Maybe this will wake parents up to the sexual agendas put forth by Planned Parenthood and Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN brags on its website that it presently has programs in 4,000 taxpayer funded public schools, which includes “The Day of Silence”, a day to support and honor homosexual behavior.
Check out the article8 website and peruse the materials being taught to children, in Massachusetts. Don’t miss the article on GLSEN’s “Little Black Book”, which was passed out to children, as young as 11 years old, in Brookline, MA.
It’s the how to be a homosexual manual for children – with photos. Also look at the actual videos of very young children being taught about homosexuality, which they maintain is just another choice.
The latest Planned Parenthood (PP) video for kids is worth a look-see, too. It’s the “Take Care Down There” video, which is beyond horrific.
Hannity recently had a segment about this video, on his show “Hannity’s America”. You can find it on YouTube. Just search Planned Parenthood’s Take Care Down There and Barack Obama and wait for the video to load, which will take a minute. Click on each of the green tags to view each video. Thank you Barack.
McCain is correct regarding Obama.
sinsing on September 9, 2008 at 10:46 PM
First you don’t want to talk about him being Muslim and yell “STICK TO THE ISSUES.” So what is the stupid excuse now that John is going after Obama on the issues?
MobileVideoEngineer on September 9, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Does anyone have an answer?
MobileVideoEngineer on September 9, 2008 at 10:48 PM
You know, at this point, the image that keeps coming to my head is that of Eagles LB slash Center Chuck Bednarik, who became famous not only for being a “60 minute man” on the football field, but for laying a hit on Frank Gifford that knocked him out of the game for a year.
Here’s the picture:
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/06/eagles.jpg
The quote Bednarik said to Gifford while he was laying lifeles on the ground:
“This F___ing game is over.”
Pack it up Obama, the ‘Cuda and McCain Train just knocked you out.
Vincenzo on September 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Me thinks this;
That Jocylin Elders who wanted to introduce pleasuring
oneself in kindergarten,must have,some where along the
way,taught Hopey and Changey the fine are of reproduction!!
But,Kindergarten is about colours,shapes,words,sound of
words,etc,etc!
This crap by Liberals is not normal,its borderline sick!!
Message to the DNC,Do you really believe the average,normal
person wants sex ed taught in Kindergarten,or junior Kinder
garten!!
The DNC is starting to mirrior Bill Clinton and Monica in
the debauchment and besmircment of the Oval Office!!
Enough already!!
canopfor on September 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM
I’m sorry, but that is “age appropriate” sex education or “selective” sex education (parallel construction). Comprehensive sex education to me would indicate teaching kids all about sex. Sort of like comprehensive immigration reform attempted to reform all of the immigration problems. A comprehensive exam at the end of the semester covers everything that was covered during the semester. I think you’re wrong. Sorry.
DWSC on September 9, 2008 at 10:53 PM
It is, of course, incrementalism. Those who were saying that bride and groom marriages would get the axe following gay marriage were called bigots and homophobes a few years ago when the Democrats started their agitating for gay marriage. Now it’s “party A” and “Party B” for weddings in California.
I wonder if anyone would argue that Democrats would no longer have any political agenda if they were to succeed at implementing all of their current agenda – Be it their socialism agenda, pervert agenda, anti-sovereignty agenda, or whatever. Of course that isn’t the case, they could no longer exist unless they keep pushing it further along.
Buddahpundit on September 9, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Bill’s passed during the short career of a politician that votes present most of the time are off the table… You hear that McCain…
When you don’t have much of a record… And are running on personality…. It’s unfair to bring up u’r one accomplishment…
Let’s just stick to calling woman sweetie’s & pigs…
Y314K on September 9, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Like I said…
… you Atheists don’t have courage, in this case, to debate me on the issue at hand.
Sooo, good night, Sweethearts.
Mcguyver on September 9, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Am I the only one that would rather not have some jackass 30 year old teacher telling my child what is and what isn’t inapproriate touching?
Thanks but no thanks.
I’d like them to show my child where the square block goes and where the circle block goes. Also, I’d like them to makesure everyone honors naptime, and that they eat their lunch.
WTF. I’m smart, I’m educated. I went to college. I lived in NYC. I DONT WANT A-HOLES TEACHING MY F-ING 6 YEAR OLD ABOUT SEX OR ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO IT.
COME ON ALREADY!
Vincenzo on September 9, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Hopeys response;
Well,um this is ah,um really delicate issue ah um ah to
discuss,um um um ah,how can I ah ah um ah try and say ah
this ah um um ah,oh ya,I think ah um every ah um um young-
ster ah should ah um um ah experience ah um parts of ah life
ah um ah um ah ah……………………(Snark!) haha.
canopfor on September 9, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Ridiculous- Thanks for looking up the details.
For those who want to check his sources, try:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/Read.aspx?guid=137df2ef-785f-4172-b9ee-91dc78a715a9
There’s a complete fact-checkable bibliography at the end of the press release.
(In passing, this is remarkably good work — which candidate was supposed to be internet-ready, again?)
McCain seems on very solid ground, here.
The data includes a press release from the Obama campaign citing the SEICUS standards for sex ed.
Then it includes a link (pdf) to the SEICUS standards, where you can read about what should be taught at “Level 1″ (ages 5-8): (Most of it is *quite* vague, and I’m only listing some of the things…)
- correct scientific names for all the parts of male and female genitalia
- “Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.”
- Discussion of vaginal intercourse (as a part of “where babies come from”)
- Discussion of homosexuality (attraction, not intercourse)
- No mention of transsexuality (until age 9)
- “Most children are curious about their bodies.”
- “Bodies can feel good when touched.” [I'd love to see a lesson plan for 1st-graders based on this bullet point... -me]
- “Touching and rubbing one’s own genitals to feel good is called masturbation.”
- “Some boys and girls masturbate and others do not.”
- “Masturbation should be done in a private place.”
- “People often kiss, hug, touch, and engage in other sexual behaviors with one another to show caring and to feel good.”
- Oddly, the message “Children are not physically or emotionally ready for sexual intercourse and other sexual behaviors.” was left out of the 5-8 yr old curriculum, and left for those 9 years and up.
- “Both girls and boys may discover that their bodies feel good when touched.”
- vague discussion of STD’s, ending with the relatively uncontroversial: “Children who find needles on the ground should not touch them and should tell an adult.”
- an extensive, and probably uncontroversial, set of points on sexual abuse
- a bunch of points on “stereotyping others is bad” and “different people have different religions” — not sure why they’re part of sex ed, but, also probably relatively uncontroversial.
Honestly… these aren’t that shocking — though I can see why parents would be uncomfortable with teachers discussing masturbation with their 5- to 8-year-old kids.
However, it’s clearly the case that these go beyond protection from molestation — the McCain ad seems to be on solid ground.
But don’t take my word for it — follow the link, read the original sources, and judge for yourself. This is the Information Age.
ClintACK on September 9, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Guidelines for Comprehensive Sex Education (SIECUS – third edition)
Link for anyone curious as to what exactly “comprehensive” means. Search through the doc for “Level 1″ descriptions. This is what the libs want to teach age 5 – 8. There is plenty of indoctrination evident and no consideration of the latency period.
ConMom on September 9, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I’m glad it a “perennial accusation,” such an outrageous vote by Obama should haunt him for the rest of his political life.
McCain was absolutely right to expose Obama’s vote for such a ridiculous position, Alen Keyes was right too and though I hardly ever agree with Romney, he got this one right also. And I hope every Republican candidate that ever runs against Obama in the future, forever more, continues to bring this fact to light in every single election. It’s the kind of liberal Democratic stupidity that needs wide exposure.
Maxx on September 9, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Even in pretty conservative Arizona the liberal agenda of the school is almost immpossible to fight. This kind of agenda is exactly why so many now opt to homeschool.
The wishes of parents are not considered. And they lie. Janet Napolitano pushed all day Kindergarten. But the sneaky thing was the ads always said it was “optional”. So okay I’m all for everyone to do what they want. If some parents think that is best for their kid great. So I voted for it. Guess what. It was “optional” for the school. The parents didn’t have a choice.
My youngest daughter could read and do math. She had been to two years of Pre-school. She didn’t need to be at school all day. I wanted her to be a kid. I wanted those half days to be park days and go shopping with Mom days. My last year with Emma during school hours. They tricked me into voting for the last thing I wanted!
One of my older kids had had all day kindergarten. It made absolutely no difference in the long run. And now Emma is in 4th grade and she is exactly where you would expect… no benefit. A total waste of half my percious 5 year-olds life that I can never get back.
I don’t trust Barack to have the best interest of my children at heart. He doesn’t know the first thing about raising kids. I do. I have six and four grandkids. McCain knows about raising kids. Romney knows a thing or two about raising kids.
Have a parent meeting. Give parents information you think they should be sure their kids know about inappropriate touching if you think this is an issue. Don’t take over.
And I think the ad is as fair as most. The real point is that Obama didn’t get anything done ACCEPT sex-ed.
petunia on September 9, 2008 at 10:59 PM
LOL, the headline of this blog just makes me laugh… I bet Obama won’t like this… I will now watch the ad, and I hope that I can come back and say good job
El_Terrible on September 9, 2008 at 11:02 PM
There is nothing wrong with that ad. It is time that everyone finally got the idea that this is a war to the finish. The stakes are enormous. This is bare knuckles toe to toe one haymaker at a time fight.
Harry Truman was correct “if you can’t stand the heat you need to stay out of the kitchen.”
If these ads bother you then you had better switch to the Disney Channel for the next 57 days it is going to get worse.
Jdripper on September 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM
honour naptime…
Vincenzo on Sept 9,2008 at 10:55PM.
Vincenzo:Looks like a hired guard is going to be needed
to make sure the precious toddlers are safe,in
a Obama/Biden DEBAUCHEROUR ADMINISTRATION!!!!!
haha.
canopfor on September 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Here in Mass, the guy Obama plagarizes from (Deval Patrick) seems to think teaching comprehensive sex ed to kidergarteners should include teaching them why they should choose to be gay.
eski502 on September 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I want a reverand wright ad – especially now that video clips from the O’reilly interview can be used.
eski502 on September 9, 2008 at 11:04 PM
“El_Terrible on September 9, 2008 at 11:02 PM”
/slaps forehead
i just now get the “comp. imm. reform” joke withthe headline!
//der!
Buckaroo on September 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Thank God my daughter doesn’t have to hear about shemales until 3rd grade.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
Vincenzo on September 9, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Allah, could you possibly put a link up to the actual law Obama tried to pass? I’m trying to find his actual words on this issue and can’t. I need primary sources to understand what Obama really thinks.
eski502 on September 9, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Sex ed in schools should be limited to basic biology.
I come from a family of public school teachers. I still don’t trust public school.
Sex ed is for parents to teach–and yes, I know some parents are horrible, but I refuse to plan society based on the lowest common denominator.
Private schools can teach it if they want–parents can decide if the school merits tuition.
But nowadays public school teachers can’t even do basic math, let alone be trusted with talking about sex.
Montana on September 9, 2008 at 11:11 PM
I know the background surrounding this ad, and I’m not opposed to Obama’s position, but I can see why they are doing this. They are getting into Obama’s head. They are going to irritate him and keep him on the defensive.
“if your opponent is quick to anger seek to irritate him”
They keep doing this to him and we’ll see Obama lash out at “bible thumpers” or “religious clingers” any day now. Maybe Obama could even drop in the word “lipstick” for good measure.
El_Terrible on September 9, 2008 at 11:11 PM
We all know that liberalism and the homosexual agenda are inseparable. I have no doubt in my mind that an opening like this would be used to push the notion that homosexuality is on par and as normal as heterosexuality. The inherent health risks of that behavior would be conveniently left out of the discussion as are the harmful emotional and physical side effects of abortion. If the libs are so concerned with “medical accuracy,” when are they going to admit that the anus is neither a sexual or reproductive organ and the misuse of it spreads numerous diseases, some of which are deadly?
echosyst on September 9, 2008 at 11:12 PM
What ever happened to the days when Home Ec. was taught?
Thank you to ClintACK and ConMom for the info. It does not stop at a “no touch zone” class because we have tons of evidence fully explaining the Left’s agenda for kids. “Heather Has Two Mommies” would have been unheard of when I was in elementary school. What changed to allow this? Sex ed classes. We went from “this is how you create and have babies” to “here is how you use a condom, go forth and have fun!” The line is constantly moving with these people.
When my girls were still in public school they had “Earth Awareness Week”. What, like they did not know they lived on the Earth? And we went through the whole deal about recycling. I am all for being a good steward, but now we have this huge debate over global warming and that mess is being taught to kids as if it was a religion!
The ad goes to judgement and values placement. For those of us that have dealt with public schools constantly moving the line; we see the validity of the ad. Association, associations, associations. Who does Obama align himself with? Radicals.
freeus on September 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Interesting. It seems that Allahpundit may be taking his talking points from the Obama campaign.
Jim M. on September 9, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Considering that the Obama campaign and their allies could care less about protecting Sarah Palin’s children, I could care less if the McCain campaign decides to misconstrue the nuances of Obama’s education record. Unlike Obama’s campaign, McCain’s campaign isn’t going after anyone’s family. In fact, the campaign has really steered clear of Michelle Obama’s gaffe machine.
Illinidiva on September 9, 2008 at 11:40 PM
The point wasn’t sex education at all really. It doesn’t even matter what “comprehensive” means in this sense at all. The point was he has no significant accomplishment on education yet he takes time to battle for comprehensive sex education. Maybe I’ve gone stupid, but the point was merely that he has his priorities in the wrong place.
TheBlueSite on September 9, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Dave Rywall’s posts condensed to audio
fossten on September 9, 2008 at 11:50 PM
OK, I’m next. Uh, Dave? And, I guess Allah?
I put it in bold, since apparently it’s difficult to read otherwise. What, exactly, would the “age appropriate” discussion for kindergartners be like, related to “the prevention, transmission, and spread of HIV AIDS”?
Further, nothing in the Brody File column debunks this story in any way, other than a statement by Obama that the kindergarten sex ed classes might include a warning about inappropriate touching. Obama spent several years lying right through his teeth about his Illinois GA vote on infanticide, so I think it’s fair to want to see the actual language of the bill, with all due respect to HRH, The One.
Jaibones on September 9, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Truer words have rarely been spoken.
Jaibones on September 9, 2008 at 11:53 PM
There is NO reason for anyone to teach my child “comprehensive” sex education in kindergarten, period.
Your proclamation that’s it’s all very benign, may be true today but once liberals start twisting sex ed, anything is possible.
RJL on September 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Regardless of the truth, I think this is a bad tactic by the McCain camp.
We got the social conservatives. We need to be hitting Obama on taxes, energy policy, and what that means for the economy.
Sackett on September 10, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Public schools always blame parents for the high teen pregnancy rates but isn’t it a lot more likely that it’s the public schools’ perverted and morally bankrupt sex education programs that are responsible? Of course it is, parents don’t want to see their children’s lives get off track with such problems. But the public schools push the liberal agenda that basically says anything goes and… Oh, here’s a condom.
The government needs to get out of the education business all together because it has totally failed and utterly destroyed our once fine education system. But until such time as we can reintroduce God to the classrooms and kick the government out, we need to make sure we give the public schools no more opportunities to teach perversion to our kids. Noting the devastation caused by liberal policies in public schools we especially cannot allow “sex education” with totally untrustworthy teachers anywhere near kindergarteners.
Since this proposed legislation was insane and totally inappropriate, isn’t it befitting that Obama supported it? Thanks to McCain, we all know it now.
Maxx on September 10, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Solid ad. Solid to point it out.
indythinker on September 10, 2008 at 12:13 AM
AP, I think you need to check your sources again. You wrote:
No, it’d go a little further than that. He’s quoted saying:
Heywood U. Reedmore on September 10, 2008 at 12:13 AM
I can’t believe they are teaching 6 graders about condoms and contraceptives. When I was in 6th grade, the boys and girls were separated and given a rudimentary explanation of where babies came from. The parents were expected to follow it up at home.
Blake on September 10, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Wow, if Obama was using that document to show what he was thinking, then I retract my earlier condemnation of this ad. That document is positively frightening.
WisCon on September 10, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Some wise commenter here earlier today said that the McCain campaign is directly targeting women of childbearing age, as they are the key voting bloc of the last few elections. This ad seems to confirm that theory. Younger moms with babies and young children will not like Barack Obama doing nothing concrete for schools but pushing sex ed for young children.
rockmom on September 10, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Sadly, today’s children are saddled with adult-themed issues far too soon.
Before the liberal hegemony defiled our media, social, cultural and educational establishments, children used to be able to at least make it partway through adolescence healthy, innocent and free. Today, that kind of innocence is routinely mocked and ridiculed.
A direct outgrowth of the hedonistic “If it feels good do it/Do what thou will” influence is the current bumper crop of creeps, predators and child molesters that we now have to protect our children from. Yeah, years ago we had a few of them, but today they have formal advocacy groups (NAMBLA) and lawyers (ACLU) that fight for them at the drop of a hat.
Is it any wonder that so many people take exception with the left’s predilection with the plight of the American deviate?
electric-rascal on September 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM
The sex-ed issue goes to a lot more than just social conservatives. It runs right into the moderates, who know as well as anyone that our public schools are pathetic jokes and that the liberals have been on a decades long push to wrest total control of kids from the parents.
progressoverpeace on September 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM
They need to withdraw this ad right now. Are you listening, McCain campaign bots?
Baphomet on September 10, 2008 at 12:31 AM
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It is worse than that. It is “If anyone ever thought it would feel good, then eveyone must be taught how to do it and be forced to celebrate it.”
AnotherOpinion on September 10, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I could certainly use some age-appropriate sex-ed. Do forty somethings get anything out of this? Or are we supposed to continue to have to rely on the ’street’ for our educationment?
Come on, o’Bama, us old white guys are looking for some support too. Quit focusing on the kids so much.
trailboss on September 10, 2008 at 12:39 AM
You question McCains honor? I question your ability to do research before diving headlong into the HuffPo position. I think you owe us all an apology.
Maxx on September 10, 2008 at 12:42 AM
If someone bothered to study Illinois SB 99 they would find a very readable definition of the bill in question.
I see no indication in the language of the bill that it was intended as Senator Obama professes: to educate K – 12 students about sexual predatory actions against youth.
What I see as the objective is to prevent against sexual transmitted diseases, especially HIV.
Now, what the hell does a Kindergartner need to know about contacting HIV? And, doesn’t this imply prevention such as condoms, etc.?
Alan Keyes through McCain are right to raise this as an issue.
Captain America on September 10, 2008 at 12:42 AM
It should also be pointed out (as it was in a video I recently saw) that Senator Obama was working in tandem with Planned Parenthood for passage of Illinois SB 99.
Captain America on September 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I’m glad I read the thread. For obvious reasons, I was under the impression McCain was wrong – but those links are very enlightening.
capitalist piglet on September 10, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Let’s not forget how Obama blatantly lied about his record and votes on the born alive issue. I have zero confidence in any denial from his campaign regarding their characterization of the bill as being accurate.
If someone has a copy of the bill or bills in question with a link, that would be helpful. It does not appear that the comments made regarding a twisting of the truth by the McCain camp can be supported without those references. Until then, I fail to see how one can definitively state that :
From what has been posted above about the initial version Obama voted for and the revised version that he voted to pass (or was it “present”?), there is indeed an issue here that is fair game for criticism. Particularly in light of Obama’s lack of any record of substance on his legislative history.
Jim M. on September 10, 2008 at 1:02 AM
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