Video: Hemmer sandbags Beckel over saying Palin will self-destruct

posted at 2:45 pm on September 8, 2008 by Allahpundit

In which the Foxies do a little investigative journalism on private hallway conversations between their own pundits and producers. Worth watching just for Beckel’s Oliver-Hardy-esque comic flusterment. Is “flusterment” a word? It is now.

Here’s the first pitch in the game to present her as self-destructing, earning swings from the boss, Ramesh Ponnuru, and Treacher. The left understands perfectly well that a lie is as good as the truth, especially with a friendly media, which is why she can’t afford even arguable “gaffes” like this one. And yeah, I know, Biden has his share of gaffes too, but they won’t stick for the same reason McCain’s gaffes don’t stick anywhere except in Nutrootsville: Because he’s been in Washington for so long, no one except the most strident partisan believes he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Whereas with Palin, all it’ll take is one Sunni/Shia snafu at the debate and it’s Bill Paxson time.


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I thought she said…the difference between a hockey mom and a rott weiler was…or maybe it was a pig

Unless he genuinely thought she said that, the only pig was the guy on the left in that video.

MadisonConservative on September 8, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Missing the front page pic, Ed.

Karl on September 8, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Bill Paxton?

I’m sure at some point some friendly reporter should ask McCain what he wants his VP to do

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on September 8, 2008 at 2:50 PM

” That pit bull – you better watch because she bites ”

classic.

Beckel is a tool but I am sure he knows BHO is history already. Boo-hoo!

DeweyWins on September 8, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Sorry, AP! (pic still missing, though.)

Karl on September 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM

It was clear that Beckel was taken aback because the label “rottweiler” sounded kind of bad and Beckel thought that that was the ‘gotcha’ that Hemmer was trying. Hemmer didn’t seem to catch that, as he was really only interested in the ‘self-destruct’ part and Beckel’s ‘rottweiler’ was perfectly fine given the fact that Palin had compared herself to a pit bull – which Beckel explained well (for once).

I didn’t think this was a big deal.

progressoverpeace on September 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Wasn’t sure about Bill Hemmer when he was at Commie Novosti Network, but he escaped. Good journalist. As for Bob Beckel – totally PWN3D!!!!!!!!!! He is just an ass-clown blowhard of gargantuan proportions. And whoever that woman just destroys him at the end!

J.J. Sefton on September 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Beckel is about as worthless as, to quote another HA reader, “that Brit tranny” at the VMA’s.

I also don’t think you are giving Palin enough credit regarding her ability to survive gaffes.

PBoilermaker on September 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM

YOU WISH!

Heh….

‘keep firing moonbats’.

sven10077 on September 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM

I think it is Bill Paxton Allah.

carbon_footprint on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

“maybe it was a pig”….

Yes. Her quote was definitely “The difference between a pig and a hockey mom is lipstick….”

Do this people think before they open their mouths?

JadeNYU on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

this = these

New question: Do I review my posts before I submit them? Apparently not. :)

JadeNYU on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Allah,

this was not a gaffe not even close to a gaffe. If people really understood what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do they would understand beyond a doubt that these two services have cost and are costing the txpayers billions upon billions of dollars. Including lobbying, bribes, CEo postions stacked with political cronies. Gov Palin should come out and put the lie to these smears with all the facts and tell all about the scandel at these insitutions. This could be the first attack on corruption by McCain and Palin. It is a softball pitch for them to take up the cause of taxpayers and tie Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac around the Democratic Congress neck.

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Did he actually try to sneak the word “pig” in there to refer to Palin…??!??!!??

Scumbag.

kiltedscotsman5 on September 8, 2008 at 2:53 PM

If you listen carefully, Beckel actually called her a pig.

Redteam on September 8, 2008 at 2:53 PM

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

correct she was right on 2 levels

1) the feds just took the keys to the shop literally

2) both have always had a panic button to get bailed out

sven10077 on September 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM

With a wing and a prayer… how about a Hail Mary.

It also known as a Swan Song!

singlemalt_18 on September 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM

I thought she said…the difference between a hockey mom and a rott weiler was…or maybe it was a pig…

Beckel – having a history of hiring and bringing prostitutes to his MD home, then being blackmailed about it – should know something about being a “pig”.

aquaviva on September 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM

He was “connie Chunged”.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM

No big deal really, but it is endlessly amusing watching the lefties melt down while eating their own words.

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 2:55 PM

I would be more inclined to put my money on Bob Beckel self-destructing.

carbon_footprint on September 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM

He needs to go home and wash out his paniculous.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Ha! Loved seeing Beckel with his mouth agape looking like a deer in the headlights.

flipflop on September 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM

it’s Bill Paxson time.

Didn’t he play the President in ‘Independence Day’?

:)

DaveC on September 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Here’s the first pitch in the game to present her as self-destructing, earning swings

Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.”

Not only is there absolutely nothing wrong with what she said, but there is 200 billion reasons why she is right. Please don’t aid and abet the enemy when they play there orwellian word games.

peacenprosperity on September 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM

DaveC on September 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM

LOL

fossten on September 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM

Haha great screencap Allah. That was worth the wait.

carbon_footprint on September 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Ah, there’s the artificially pessimistic AP I’ve come to know and wonder about the mental state of. This is less than nothing. Beckel expresses a hope/valid concern, AP runs to a — oh, how could it ever happen — a gaffe Palin makes, and runs it against her supporters. “[W]hy she can’t afford even arguable “gaffes” like this one”? Uh, she’s gonna have them, even as everyone else in politics will.

Again, who is it on the Lefty blogs that does AP’s job?

Tommygun on September 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Who is going to go on record saying that Fannie and Freddie do not cost the taxpayers anything?

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Here’s the first pitch in the game to present her as self-destructing, earning swings

So as fnma and freddie mac have been buying up bad loans for the past 5 years with good taxpayer money they haven’t been costing us anything?

peacenprosperity on September 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Whereas with Palin, all it’ll take is one Sunni/Shia snafu at the debate and it’s Bill Paxson time

I doubt it. With all the slander building up, she is going to be automatically protected. People want to like her now and that goes a long way.

Spirit of 1776 on September 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM

It was a flusteredly reaction.

Homina homina…

JammieWearingFool on September 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Beckel whining like a scalded dog.

Hening on September 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Here’s the link to The Smoking Gun with pictures of Beckel’s consort.
Note: NSFW.

aquaviva on September 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM

People aren’t going to care about the “gaffe” now that taxpayers are indeed bailing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

People may care about the involvement of Obama cronies like Penny Pritzker and Jim Johnson in this mess, however.

Karl on September 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Cute how he tried to come back with the “lipstick on a pig” meme. I think there’s a bit of inside baseball we’re not aware of at FNC which could lead to some interesting on and off-air fireworks.

pt on September 8, 2008 at 3:01 PM

He calls her a pig also, the left at it’s best.

Rode Werk on September 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Whereas with Palin, all it’ll take is one Sunni/Shia snafu at the debate and it’s Bill Paxson time.

No it’s not Allah.

Why do you cede so much power to the MSM when 1) it hasn’t played out historically in the last 2 elections when we thought it couldn’t get much worse and 2) the MSM’s creditability has been in the crapper and steadily spiraling downward.

I know it’s hard, it’s hard for me too, but please try to have a little more faith in the American people.

BillyRayValentine on September 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM

The last gaffe Bill Paxton made was getting eaten in Aliens.

Or was it that tornado flick? The only gaffe missing from that one is the hump scene from Team America.

TheHat on September 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Remember they have hope,…hope and some change.

christene on September 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM

aquaviva on September 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM

and paid her by check,

What is it about Libs paying for prostitutes with checks??

carbon_footprint on September 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Bill Paxton Time – Game over Man!!

Bill Paxson Time – Jordan, to Paxson at the top of the key…Game Over!!!

Either way, Game over!! :-)

HarryStar on September 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM

sven10077 on September 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Yes the folks at Huffpo are either

1) betting on the stupidity of the general population always a bad bet

or
2) are themselves the stupid ones.

While you can make a case that the two are seperate from the gov from a legal case, they are tied closely to the government on a basic level. FM and FM has been the dumping grounds of Dems for political friends in repayment of campiagn help and funds. they have been mismanaged since the inception and their policies and “financial instruments” can be tied to the subprime debacle of last year and the ensuing credit crisis that has ultimately brought them down.

they need to be excised of all management, they need to be walled off high and strong from political appointments and favors etc.

I think this is the perfect opening salvo for Palin and McCain in their figth for reform. It would show the voters that they mean what they say.

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM

The small mistakes sinking campaign schtick never works, unless its a long series of such mistakes.

Bush got the name of the leader of one of the many “istan” countries, and nobody cared. That’s because very few of the public knew that answer either.

Add in the publics growing weariness with the press’s playing gotcha with candidates, and all of the smears that have been thrown at Palin already, and she would have to make a gaff on the order of “nitally lions” for it to make a difference.

MarkTheGreat on September 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM

The difference between a liberal pundit and a snotweasel is…uh…is…uh…

whitetop on September 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM

If she said what the media says she said. Was it “have” or was it “had”? Does anyone have video of her ACTUAL speech in Colorado. Let’s not accuse her of a gaffe without the actual soundbite please.

Sultry Beauty on September 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM

The moonbats were saying she’d self-destruct before her speech too. They were giddy with excitement.

lodge on September 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Whereas with Palin, all it’ll take is one Sunni/Shia snafu at the debate and it’s Bill Paxson time.

It must be a terrible thing to live in fear.

What an unfortunate way to go through life.

Why this particular fear is unfounded is Palin herself. She’s cool, she’s poised and she’s composed. There’s no Dan Quayle in her so she’s just not going to play along.

And that’s crucial for these things to work. Poor Quayle, every time he was asked a question he looked for all the world like he was searching through memories of lines he’d been fed that he could recite to stay out of trouble. And for that, he was an easy target.

Sarah Palin is not.

Everyone stumbles. How you recover is what counts. And I am suprmemely confident of the ‘Cuda’s ability to recover.

Of course, I’ve never been one to live my life in fear.

Typhoon on September 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Schweinchen are indignant.

Entelechy on September 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM

People not only want to like her, now, they do like her. After all in trying to discredit Governor Palin, the Dems have succeeded in insulting the following people:

WOMEN
WALMART SHOPPERS
SENIOR CITIZENS
MENTALLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE
WOMEN
ALASKANS
HOCKEY/SOCCER MOMS
WOMEN
MAYORS
LITTLE GIRLS THAT GROOM THEIR BABY BROTHERS
PEOPLE WHO HAVE UNEXPECTED PREGNANCIES
WOMEN
PRO-LIFERS
SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS AND THE PARENTS WHO LOVE THEM
WORKING MOTHERS
STAY AT HOME DADS
WOMEN
REGULAR PEOPLE
GOVERNORS
OH YEAH, AND WOMEN

Please feel free to add to the list.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Flusterment

Heh. Mom used to say “flustrated”. I really think she meant both things.

daveintexas on September 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Beckel must not have seen the O’Reilly interview with Obama. Proves without a doubt that Obama has not been challenged by the swooning media types that swallow his bull.Thsie interviews continue tonight. O’Reilly challenges Barry on almost every idea he raises. The rsult is a weak and babbling excuse for a leader. Even Geraldo, who I dislike, called him out for “being weak” and unpresidential. Watch and see if you could vote for someone who cowers at every turn. Beckel was a Mondale campaign manager that led the biggest failure in the history of politics. Mondale barely carried his home state of Minnesota and Reagan carried the other 49 states convincingly.

volsense on September 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Whereas with Palin, all it’ll take is one Sunni/Shia snafu at the debate and it’s Bill Paxson time.

No it’s not Allah.

Why do you cede so much power to the MSM when 1) it hasn’t played out historically in the last 2 elections when we thought it couldn’t get much worse and 2) the MSM’s creditability has been in the crapper and steadily spiraling downward.

I know it’s hard, it’s hard for me too, but please try to have a little more faith in the American people.

BillyRayValentine on September 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM

While I appreciate concern over the MSM’s bias, AP is getting a little desparate here.

Tommygun on September 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Heard it live this morning… the “pig” he slipped in was the money quote. What a tool.

Chicost84 on September 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Almost as good as TheBigOldDog’s Obama list. (Where’d he go, BTW?) Nicely done.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM

No, No Bob. Pigs become political pundants on television.

TooTall on September 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM

The best part about having Palin as VP pick is the leeway she’ll get for any supposed gaffes. Of course the media will be all over it but the public will be extremely forgiving. Just as with the “experience” arguement the “gaffe” arguement will also backfire because of the plethora of examples we have from both Obama and Biden.

Could you imagine being so stupid as to argue that the “gaffes” that Biden and Obama make are because they know what they’re talking about? Oh man would that ever be a gift!

Capitalist Infidel on September 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM

How can a man so fat that he can barely get up out of his chair have the nerve to call anyone a pig?

baldilocks on September 8, 2008 at 3:11 PM

He inferred Palin was a pig. Her quote was some thing along the lines of; Do you know the difference between a Pit Bull and a Hockey mom? One wares lipstick. His comment was a play on the old saying about a pig is still a pig even with lipstick on. Now of course Palin wasn’t talking about a Pit Bull with lipstick so in my opinion he inferred Palin was a pig. It was mean and unwarranted but nicely done in my opinion.

jmarcure on September 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Please post your reply at Huffpo….this nailed it.

nyrofan on September 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Bob Beckel is the guy who contacted Republican electors in 2000 trying to get them to change and vote for Al Gore in the electoral college. When called on it later, he said he was just ‘contacting’ them to see how they were voting. Mr. Beckel will lie, cheat, and steal his way to win an election. What credibility does he have as political pundit?

jerseyman on September 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Man I love Andrea Tantaros.

She’s a Conservative Greek Goddess

BJ on September 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Palin was quite correct to make such a comment about Fannie & Freddie. What it has revealed is how astoundingly ignorant the dumb [liberal] masses evidently are about these two entities.

Palin keeps getting sharper.

LimeyGeek on September 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Please feel free to add to the list.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Rednecks,
Hillbillies,
Trailer Trash,
Native Americans,
Eskimos
Beauty Queens,
Female Basketball players
Fishermen,
Hunters
People that like her.

jmarcure on September 8, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.”

If someone tries to claim Palin was claiming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do not get money from a federal budget appropriation, they are trying to change her words.

These agencies took on too much risk, with taxpayers holding the bag as soon as the risk needs to be paid.

When federal regulators saw misleading accounting to hide the problem, they had to act.

Right_of_Attila on September 8, 2008 at 3:18 PM

I can’t see the video, but I will say that 1) “Government sponsored private companies” is an oxymoron and 2) Good luck explaining the companies aren’t taxpayer funded on a day when people are being told the companies are being bailed out by the taxpayer.

BigD on September 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM

The attacks have taken on a consistent pattern.
1. Attack/accuse Palin
2. Broadcast to MSM
3. Hard evidence comes out that totally proves the attack baseless (ususally the next day.)

Palin actually faked her daughter’s pregnancy. Next day, word comes out that her daughter is still very pregnant.
Palin chastised for saying Fannie/Mae costs taxpayers billions, only to be bailed out (by the taxpayers) the next day.

jerseyman on September 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Please post your reply at Huffpo….this nailed it.

nyrofan on September 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM

I do not have an account there nor do I want one. However, I have no problems with others posting it there. I do not even care if anyone credits it to me. Feel free to use it as you see fit.

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Beckle usually isn’t so bad for a Lib. He usually seems fairly reasonable, but he’s got this one WAY wrong.

Re:O’Reilly He does eat Obama up in those interviews, but gosh he’s annoying. Almost as annoying as Obama.

gmoonster on September 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM

This economist/ political scientist (if in fact he is) the HuffPo quotes is a disgrace. No serious economist would deny that Fannie and Freddy cost tax payers’ money. And to say that Palin does “not have a clue” about FanFred actually “doesn’t speak well for” him.

And this Beckel guy just said that hockey moms are pigs.

evenfarer on September 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Stop being such a pussy, Allah. She won’t be “game over” if she makes a gaffe in the debate. The conservatives are not going anywhere, and the ex-Oprah posse is personally invested. It’s all good. She’s good enough to get it done and not step on her dick hockey stick.

Froggy on September 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM

The difference between a liberal pundit and a snotweasel is…uh…is…uh…

whitetop on September 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Answer: Snotweasel’s have honor?

kirkill on September 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Please feel free to add to the list.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM

chillbillies
ruaral america
pentacostals
teenage mothers (while not as big now as 40 years ago many mothers in the 50′s and 60′s and 70′s got their start in motherhood in the teenage years. and have raised their children to be outstanding adults
Reagan republicians/democrats
libertianians
AIP members
Canada
Those that try to live their lives by the bible

hell let’s just say about 60% of the population

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM

Palin’s Gaffe?

Well then THIS should more than bury it:

The American Spectator

Fanny, Freddie, and Obama

Published 9/8/2008 12:08:38 AM

When President George W. Bush nominated Henry Paulson to serve as Treasury Secretary, Republicans raised a red flag that Paulson, who, along with his wife, has strong ties to the Democrat party, would not be an honest broker with Republicans.

That seems to have been borne out, with sources inside of Treasury reporting that Paulson briefed Sen. Barack Obama and his campaign advisers on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailout plan before offering such a briefing to the McCain campaign.

In fact, the McCain campaign had sought a similar briefing several days ago as word spread that a bailout plan was to be unveiled and had been turned down by Paulson’s senior staff.

The next question is: Why was the Obama campaign so keen on getting advanced word about the bailout?

“They have a huge problem with the mortgage and housing market story, and everyone is missing it,” says a Republican political media consultant with ties to the Obama campaign due to the bipartisan nature of the firm he does work with.

“You look at Obama’s economic advisers, the guys he has counted on from day one and who have raised him a ton — and I mean a ton — of money: Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, both of them are waist to neck deep in the mortgage debacle.”

Both Raines and Johnson have served as CEO of Fannie Mae, with Raines taking over from Johnson. Both are key political and economic advisers to Obama.

“How can Obama go out with a straight face and saw it was Republicans who made this mess, when it is his key advisers who ran the agencies that made the big mess what it is?” says a Democrat House member who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. “It’s his people who are responsible for what may well be the single largest government bailout in history. And every single one of them made millions off the collapse that are lining Obama’s campaign coffers. If the McCain campaign lets this one go, they deserve to lose.”

It isn’t just Fannie Mae where Obama has a problem. Another close political adviser, in fact the one man responsible for rallying support for Obama early on among Congressional Democrats, is Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who served on the Board of Directors for Freddie Mac after leaving the Clinton White House. According to Freddie Mac insiders, Emanuel during his time on the board opposed every reform proposed by the Bush Administration that would have impacted Freddie and Fannie Mae.

Emanuel claimed to be neutral in the primary race between the wife of his old boss and his longtime Chicago acquaintance, Obama. But the chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, who would be first in line for the vacated Senate seat of Obama should he win the presidency, quickly dumped Clinton when it was clear Obama had a head of steam for the nomination.

“We ought to be able to — rightly — hang the Fannie and Freddie scandal around the neck of Obama, if they can get out in front,” says a House Republican. “Middle-class folks’ mortgages are probably safe, but the American taxpayer will also be paying for this scandal for years to come.”

This will KILL OMBAMA

FiveWays on September 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Since when is a show-prep meeting with a producer “private”?

logis on September 8, 2008 at 3:29 PM

“You know, those things are supposed to be personal.”

What’s that supposed to mean? Anything you say to a PRODUCER cannot be used on the air?

Call the Whaambulaaance – he looked like he was about to stroke out right then and there.

tru2tx on September 8, 2008 at 3:30 PM

So Palin’s “gaffe” was that she’s prophetic?

No wonder they want to burn her at the stake. Can’t have heretical prophets.

The Monster on September 8, 2008 at 3:30 PM

It looks like we know what the new wacko Democrat line of attack is now. “OK, she’s experienced. But she’s still a pro-life pig.”

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2JjNmM5NjU0NDI3ZGJhOGY1MWJlYjQ0ZGE5NWJmMzk=

econavenger on September 8, 2008 at 3:31 PM

hmmmm Just musing here, but I think maybe it’s possible that Michelle Obama may have lost her baby-daddy the race, even without exposition of the extand-or-not-extant “Whitey tape.” Can’t know for sure, but my gut tells me that Michelle was fiercely against Barry’s choosing Hillary as VP. (I think I read that somewhere too, but not sure). Had Barry chosen Hillary, it’s doubtful that McCain would have gone with Palin…no Palin no Pile-On of Republican voters…

max1 on September 8, 2008 at 3:33 PM

fyi my previous post about Michelle O nixing Shrillary
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/michelle_vetoes_hillary.html

max1 on September 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM

You should have heard that blow hard when he was asked about Obama’s Columbia days, I thought he was going to blow.

He’s a doofus

reshas1 on September 8, 2008 at 3:36 PM

She better hurry because BO’s wheels are already coming off.

ronsfi on September 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM

max1 on September 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Yep. And even if, by some unfathomable miracle, the Messiah somehow gets Michelle Ma’Belle to relent, he’s already burned enough bridges with Hillary that any attempt to recruit her will likely be rebuffed with hyena laughter.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 8, 2008 at 3:39 PM

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 8, 2008 at 3:39 PM

It sure is gooooood eatin’ ain’t it! :)

max1 on September 8, 2008 at 3:40 PM

evenfarer on September 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM

agreed. I am reposting a post I made in the headlines section earlier today on the pain and cost of FM and FM to the taxpayers:

It would be nice if people understood what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do. They buy home loans from banks repackage those loans into security instruments like CDOs and SIV’s. They then take these bundled instruments and sell them on the open market (not only to Americian but too other countries like China russia, etc you know those countries that fund our run away spending). They can do this because before yesterday there has always been an implied backing from the Federal government and thus FM and FM were able to get money from the market below market rates. Thus they played the spread between market rates and the rates charged to them. They made money from this spread and from “fees” of selling the home loans packages.

Now with homes prices dropping FM and FM have been unable to sell the home loans packages on the open market. There capital was being eaten up as the home loans built up on there books. With no capital they could not buy the loans from the banks and the banks could not sell their home loans and thus the banks capital was also being eaten up and thus no one was lending money leading to the credit crisis that has dropped the dow 3,000 pts, and increased the loss of home prices.

With the takeover on Sunday the Americian taxpayer just got on the hook for $5 Trillion. I would say that is too expensive for the avg taxpayer. Regardless of that. The loss in stock market vaules of stocks, the loss of home equaity and the loss of jobs caused by this illiquid credit crisis caused in large part because of mismanagement of FM and FM also points to these insitutions being too expensive to the tax payer.

Another smear by the left. McCain campiagn needs to knock this down now. Gov Palin was 100% correct on this issue. FM and FM are too big ($5trillion in home loans) and too expensive ($5 trillion tax libility, loss of stock market vaules, loss of jobs, loss of home equaity) for the tax payer.

This is another example of why liberals should not be handed the keys to our economy. They have no idea what they are talking about.

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 1:18 PM

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 3:42 PM

WOMEN
WALMART SHOPPERS
SENIOR CITIZENS
MENTALLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE
WOMEN
ALASKANS
HOCKEY/SOCCER MOMS
WOMEN
MAYORS
LITTLE GIRLS THAT GROOM THEIR BABY BROTHERS
PEOPLE WHO HAVE UNEXPECTED PREGNANCIES
WOMEN
PRO-LIFERS
SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS AND THE PARENTS WHO LOVE THEM
WORKING MOTHERS
STAY AT HOME DADS
WOMEN
REGULAR PEOPLE
GOVERNORS
OH YEAH, AND WOMEN

Please feel free to add to the list.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Rednecks,
Hillbillies,
Trailer Trash,
Native Americans,
Eskimos
Beauty Queens,
Female Basketball players
Fishermen,
Hunters
People that like her.

jmarcure on September 8, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Please feel free to add to the list.

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM

chillbillies
ruaral america
pentacostals
teenage mothers (while not as big now as 40 years ago many mothers in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s got their start in motherhood in the teenage years. and have raised their children to be outstanding adults
Reagan republicians/democrats
libertianians
AIP members
Canada
Those that try to live their lives by the bible

hell let’s just say about 60% of the population

unseen on September 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM

A women that likes to Fish.
that like Sarah Palin.
that have an Education.
that wear hair up and pulled back.
that breast feed.
that have children after 40.
Italians
Jews
Gun owners
Bus drivers
President George Bush
Condi Rice
White Folks
Churches
Armed Forces
Iraqi People
Israel
American Flag.

my list goes back to when obama started to run for President.

christene on September 8, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Wow Andrea had the best line there, stuff like that makes her my favorite Republican Strategist.

Rbastid on September 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM

fyi my previous post about Michelle O nixing Shrillary
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/michelle_vetoes_hillary.html

max1 on September 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Oh, the irony!

bloggless on September 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM

If the McCain campaign lets this one go, they deserve to lose.”

This will KILL OMBAMA

FiveWays on September 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM

I hope Neil Cavuto brings this up on his show in ten minutes….

This is bigger than the flag flap and it received over 700 posts!

tru2tx on September 8, 2008 at 3:52 PM

You heard it here.

TheSitRep on September 8, 2008 at 3:53 PM

“Del Paxton. You are my biggest fan.”

– Guy Patterson

SlimyBill on September 8, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I read the first link that goes to a huffington post piece. What’s really interesting about that piece is that the folks that are quoted in the article as righteously pointing out her gaffe themselves make all sorts of gaffes. One person calls fannie and freddie private companies. Of course, that isn’t entirely true. They are Government Sponsored Entities which are private companies that are also an extension of the government, and that is part of the problem.

Another one proclaims that they have never received a credit line from the government. Of course, Michelle herself debunked that a while ago, and in fact, one of the perks of being a GSE is that you get this special credit line from the treasury that no other company gets.

mike volpe on September 8, 2008 at 3:57 PM

I’m never terribly impressed by gotcha journalism that airs private conversations.

It serves only to stunt actual debate, both private and public.

krakatoa on September 8, 2008 at 3:59 PM

I’m never terribly impressed by gotcha journalism that airs private conversations.

It serves only to stunt actual debate, both private and public.

krakatoa on September 8, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Right. Or in Peggy Noonan’s case, disclose to the public the difference between what you write and what you actually think.

BigD on September 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Put me in the boat with Ramesh, I’m not seeing the gaffe. And it’s too insider-y to try to explain so it won’t fly.

Especially with the expected bailout to come.

Doing a Google search of +”Fannie Mae” +bailout I get 951,000 hits… or 13,158 News hits alone. I doubt all those were after her speech; so everyone knew what was coming, and what it could cost (or, more accurately, thought they knew).

But they aren’t “too expensive to taxpayers”? Where does the bailout money come from?

I’ll admit I’m not an expert here, and I wouldn’t claim to be… and there’s certainly more than enough room here for me to be wrong. But this doesn’t sound like a gaffe to me.

It may play as a “whoops, that ain’t right” with the true insiders who live and breathe this stuff; but for outsiders (i.e. voters) It’d probably take a 5 page document to explain to me how this was a gaffe.

And if you have to explain the joke, it stops being as funny.

gekkobear on September 8, 2008 at 4:05 PM

“Del Paxton. You are my biggest fan.”

– Guy Patterson

SlimyBill on September 8, 2008 at 3:53 PM

+1

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 8, 2008 at 4:07 PM

The two questions I’ve submitted to Hemmer’s “BYA” segment were featured so I’m partial to him.

PS Michelle and Neil just spoke on the Fannie/Freddie issue.

Domino on September 8, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Didn’t he play the President in ‘Independence Day’?

:)

DaveC

He was the guy who wet himself in True Lies.

OC Chuck on September 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I don’t know who that young lady is, but I admire her spirit. “You wish!”

Jim Treacher on September 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Beckel’s one to be calling somebody a pig. This is the guy who paid a prostitute with a check, then was surprised when she tried to blackmail him with it.

He’s a total waste of skin. His only redeeming value is I’ve now seen him be totally gobsmacked a couple of times, once by Corsi and once by Hemmer, and it’s a beautiful thing seeing such a dirtbag get drilled one in his drooling, filthy gob.

mr.blacksheep on September 8, 2008 at 4:26 PM

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