TV Newser: Is Matthews a fall guy for Olbermann?

posted at 5:39 pm on September 8, 2008 by Allahpundit

Yeah, I think so. They’re both chin-deep in the tank, but where Olby’s bias is driven by near-pathological antipathy to conservatives, Matthews’s is driven by fanboy admiration for The One. That makes his tone easier to digest and leaves him capable of at least tolerating the presence of Republicans, not to mention criticizing Obama in ways that would leave Olbermann sweaty and stuttering.

An NBC News executive believes the Olbermann-Matthews pairing was dicey almost from the start — on the night of the New Hampshire primary, when Olbermann and others on his panel mocked John McCain’s victory speech. “It evolved into the monster that it is, and no one was minding the image,” says the executive. “They banked on the team to do the events, and little by little the slippery slope lost its ground.”…

In Washington, home base for 11-year MSNBC veteran Matthews, the perception is that he has become the fall guy. “There’s a real sense of unfairness that Chris is being made to pay for Keith’s behavior. Not just on Chris’ part — others at the network recognize it, too,” a person close to the situation tells us.

What led MSNBC to pull the trap door? Oddly, according to TV Newser, it was Olbermann’s on-air heart-ache about the GOP’s 9/11 convention video while performing his, ahem, anchor duties. “I found it ironic and instructive that I could have easily said exactly what I did say, exactly when I did say it, if I had been wearing a different hat, and nobody would have taken any issue,” said Olby to the NYT yesterday. And actually, I agree with him: This moronic charade, in which MSNBC expected audiences to believe a propagandist could set down his bias like a heavy load when doing “neutral” newscasting, is an insult to everyone’s intelligence, including his. Which is why it’s so very curious to revisit this Broadcasting & Cable piece from July and find him asserting, “We know there are different roles for us… And the viewers know there are different roles.” How does that square with his lament to the Times about the silly formalistic overemphasis on wearing “different hats”?

Kaus has your exit question but I guess I should offer one of my own, so sound off: Is Matthews collateral damage here?

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If I could stop laughing I would be able to type my thoughts.

Oh man,,,,, never mind – laughing is more fun.

jake-the-goose on September 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM

No matter.
Have you seen who the replacement is?
Out of the frying pan and into the volcano.

shooter on September 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

Who cares.

Two turds down- thousands to go….

FiveWays on September 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM

I’d prefer if they were all like Olbermann. He doesn’t fool anyone but some of these other folks do. Like how so many people think Larry King is neutral. Or how so many women apparently thought Oprah wasn’t a die hard liberal until recently.

D0WNT0WN on September 8, 2008 at 5:45 PM

What’s Olby’s beef with Conservatives? Was his mom a Conservative who deserted him as a child and this is his revenge? The guy is rabid.

DerKrieger on September 8, 2008 at 5:47 PM

They are both “Liberal” Political Hacks”. “Good Riddance”.

bucko36 on September 8, 2008 at 5:47 PM

No journalist should be a fan of any politician while doing the job. It’s fine to have an honest reaction (“What a good speech”), but cheerleading and protectionism is obvious to anyone. It might be me, but I think every journalist’s first tool is skepticism. These guys lost it long ago and are paying the price now.

beatcanvas on September 8, 2008 at 5:47 PM

beatcanvas on September 8, 2008 at 5:47 PM

They’re just products of the Liberal educations they received in college. The next group that needs to fall after the MSM and Hollywood is academia.

DerKrieger on September 8, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Was Mapes collateral damage from Danny Boy’s follies? Get in the tank with bottom feeders, wind up sinking in the sludge.

bbz123 on September 8, 2008 at 5:49 PM

What’s Olby’s beef with Conservatives?

Apparently a Republican sold him that rat on his head (called a toupee) and he’s never really gotten over it…..

FiveWays on September 8, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

Damage? Seriously Allah, do you want Matthews to feel tingly via the leg with you standing around him?

EWWW!

upinak on September 8, 2008 at 5:51 PM

“They banked on the team to do the events, and little by little the slippery slope lost its ground.”…

That is so much bullshit! MSNBC decided who their audience would be, and believeing all the BDS floating around in their bubble, believed EVERYONE else in the country felt the same way.

Unfortunately for them, the BDS crowd is not that big a demographic (numbers wise or money wise).

Matthews tarred himself with Keefums brush, so he can suffer along with him.

I don’t think any of this came out of MSNMC’s management. Those people have crap for brains. Someone higher is pulling the strings.

GarandFan on September 8, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Yes, tingle boy is getting a bad rap here.

Matthews hates “neocons” and not, as with Olbermann, Republicans or even conservatives generally (although he hasn’t the foggies idea as to what a “necon” is: hint, Chris, Cheney isn’t one). Matthews simply cannot – would not – say, as Olbermann did, that “Republicans are the leading terror group in America.” He just wouldn’t.

My guess is that if they moved Olbermann and not Matthews that Olbermann would have walked. Or put up a big stink with this netroots allies. And that lovely crowd of good cheer is a good chunk of MSNBC’s latenight viewership especially now with the addition of Maddow.

Expect Olbermann to be even more outrageous in the coming weeks to prove his mettle (to his No. 1 fan: himself).

SteveMG on September 8, 2008 at 5:51 PM

With apologies to May West: “Forget about the collateral, honey. Let’s just talk about the damage…”

Bruno Strozek on September 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM

All liberals are glad their mothers were conservative other wise they would have been left in a trash can somewhere with their brains leaking out. Come to think of it,it sounds like some of their brains did leak out.

Especialy KO’s.

Rick007 on September 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM

At the very least, Matthews was karmic damage.

rw on September 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Hopefully, Chris will soon do a sitdown with 60 Minutes and tell all.:) His ego is too big to just let it slide without remark to someone. Perhaps just a leak to unknown sources? Good times ahead.

a capella on September 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Collateral damage? Nope.

Sure, Keef is a belligerent, offensive idiot. But the point of that is that he is completely unable to separate anchoring from commentary.

Matthews is inept in the same way. Just because he’s a tingly moron who would proudly suck off Obama for the honor of being in his presence does not change the fundamental problem.

Liberal slant aside, they cannot report news or anchor coverage. They can only offer commentary. Neither can help themselves.

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

Right. Whatever. Hey, my shoe’s untied…

juanito on September 8, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Unfortunately, Keith’s demotion is not nearly as satisfying as an outright firing would have been.

alwyr on September 8, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Chris Tingle starring in Prisoner of Love…the torrid story of an old donk reenflamed to the heights of passion by a young strapping Liberal……

“3 thumbs up”

sven10077 on September 8, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Olby just says what the rest of the MSM is thinking. He’s just dumb enough to do it.

Valiant on September 8, 2008 at 5:54 PM

That makes his tone easier to digest and leaves him capable of at least tolerating the presence of Republicans

Really? Is there another Chris Matthews that I’m not aware of? How soon we forget.

Gregor on September 8, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Poor Chris Matthews.

Poor, poor Chris Matthews. I weep for the collateral damage that is Christ Matthews. He didn’t deserve it. Boo hoo. *watches the yuotube video where Chris Mathews insulted Michelle Malkin.* Never mind. F* him.

wise_man on September 8, 2008 at 5:56 PM

The real hack who should be walking the plank with these two loons is the executive who thought this was a smart idea. He’s the same guy who caved and tossed Imus I think.

JAW on September 8, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Matthews is less of an idiot than Uberdunce, although I wouldn’t really consider that a compliment.

Captain Hate on September 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM

No, and who cares? He’s a turd, incapable of anything even remotely resembling journalism. Olbermann’s a megalomaniac leftist nitwit. Each richly deserves the return to opinion-only stupidity from whence they came.

And MSNBC so richly deserves the sewer in which they wallow.

Jaibones on September 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Matthews’s is driven by fanboy admiration for The One.

Years past I used to watch him because he obviously loves politics. I’d enjoy switching channels on election nights, his show being one among the preferred ones. He was always gracious toward the winners, no matter which party.

In the last two years his “tingling” love for Obama is what drove me away, to the point where now I don’t care if he’s the fall guy, or not. He was unfair to Hillary too. He should have maintained his integrity.

I guess he wanted to cry in the U.S.A., as he did in South Africa. His wife might have something to say to him.

Entelechy on September 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM

More good news… Ace nailed it better than I can.

Age-Old Racial Fears Stirred as McCain/Palin Begins Stealing Everyone’s White Women Away.

White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama’s favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that’s one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences.

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM

The only interesting thing about the Olberman implosion is how long it took.

It was as inevitable as the sunrise.

And I don’t see Matthews as collateral damage; I see him as complicit in the behavior – and since he’s several orders of magnitudes more intelligent than Olberman, he carries a far larger share of the responsibility.

Matthews should have known better. Olberman was and is too stupid to even understand what he was doing was wrong.

Professor Blather on September 8, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I can’t imagine why anyone would want to sponsor that crap. Corporate suicide, I guess.

Ronnie on September 8, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Tell me Chris…does a pink slip give you a thrill up your leg??

right2bright on September 8, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Professor Blather on September 8, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Nice to see you again Prof.

upinak on September 8, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Exit answer: reap/sow, lay down dogs/get up fleas, etc.

Citizen Duck on September 8, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Between Olby’s demotion, McCain’s spike in the polls, and the non-stop display of Sarah Palin images in the media, I’ve been sporting wood all day.

rsrobinson on September 8, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Dami, with so many women tired of the Democrap party, the BS, the BS throwing and of course smear upon smear… You didn’t think it would turn for the better when Sarah arrived?

upinak on September 8, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Olby is a borderline nutjob with Matthews just about as delusional. The real question is where do failures like this duo go when they are already at rock bottom?

volsense on September 8, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?
I would call Matthews more of an associated figure that also supported the enemy effort, who was destroyed along with the high-value target. Kind of like the getting Adam Gadahn with the same Hellfire that took out Abu Laith al-Libi

gridlock2 on September 8, 2008 at 6:04 PM

I don’t watch MSNBC, but this was fairly unprofessional behavior on Matthews’ part, and not just the defensiveness.

calbear on September 8, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Have to wonder how many people have deleted Olby and Matthews from their “friends list” on their I-phones.

coldwarrior on September 8, 2008 at 6:05 PM

From what I’ve seen the remaking of MSNBCs image is going to take more than this.

They need to rethink this whole balancing Fox thing. Fox balanced them… and yet it didn’t even really slant very far right at all.

So jumping off the left side of the cliff like they did… well it’s going to take someone who actually knows where the middle is to fix MSNBC and I’m not seeing anyone qualified.

petunia on September 8, 2008 at 6:05 PM

I don’t think the “collateral” damage went far enough. Jeff Zucker and Steve Capus should pay as well. It was their grand experiment that blew up in their face. Shouldn’t they have some of the blowback?

d1carter on September 8, 2008 at 6:06 PM

rsrobinson on September 8, 2008 at 6:02 PM

TMI, sir. :|

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 8, 2008 at 6:06 PM

I too just wonder why the implosion of MSNBC is so slow, but oh so entertaining! And to think I used to like Olby on Sports Center many many years ago…I didn’t know he was such a nutjob.

kirkill on September 8, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

I Vote Who Cares!

Hunt035 on September 8, 2008 at 6:07 PM

When you are a pawn for the King, you are taken out before the King in normal play. If your opponent is wise, only a few pawns need to be taken out before the checkmate of your King.

In any case, you’d think the pawns would eventually get the message that they are expendable.

coldwarrior on September 8, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Matthews is just as big an ass and he wasn’t doing his job either. Both were commentating when they should have been reporting as journalists; a alien concept at MSNBC.

katieanne on September 8, 2008 at 6:08 PM

I have a soft spot in my heart – or maybe my head – for Matthews because he was and is a strong anti-communist. He loved Reagan’s anti-communism just as much as he loved JFK’s (his book on Nixon’s and JFK’s friendship isn’t too bad).

That alone makes me want to give him a semi-pass.

As I said: soft spot in my head, okay?

SteveMG on September 8, 2008 at 6:08 PM

rsrobinson on September 8, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Gross.

Hunt035 on September 8, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Dami, with so many women tired of the Democrap party, the BS, the BS throwing and of course smear upon smear… You didn’t think it would turn for the better when Sarah arrived?

upinak on September 8, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Nah. I am pessimistic but not stupid. I’ve liked Sarah as the choice for about a month before the announcement. I went to bed heartbroken that it looked like McCain has wimped out with Pawlenty 2 Thursdays ago, only to start shouting and dancing in front of my TV on Friday.

Now, I am just having fun watching the meltdown between poll/ deleted blogs/ NYT weak attempt and an apology/ Olby/ Tingly back at the kiddie table/ etc.

It’s been a great day and I am loving rubbing lefties noses in it.

Okay- Olby and Matthews down… CNN is next. We need Wolf & Campbell kicked to the curb and I will be dancing in the streets.

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 6:12 PM

No journalist should be a fan of any politician while doing the job. It’s fine to have an honest reaction (”What a good speech”), but cheerleading and protectionism is obvious to anyone. It might be me, but I think every journalist’s first tool is skepticism. These guys lost it long ago and are paying the price now.

beatcanvas on September 8, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Dead on. Good post.

StatenItaly08 on September 8, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Not sure where to put this…This is ABSOLUTELY the most vile thing I have seen so far.

Marsh on September 8, 2008 at 6:14 PM

ooops. Here’s the link…http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5907#comments

Marsh on September 8, 2008 at 6:15 PM

My fun is gone. I was really enjoying their fall. Won’t make much difference with David “Communist Infiltraitor” Gregory taking over. The only good news is… as Omama continues his slide the MSNBC gang will go as crazy as pet coons. All lead to the dicipline area by the nap of their necks by Sir Gregory.

Griz on September 8, 2008 at 6:15 PM

sorry, let me try once more…http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31188_DUmmies_Hit_Bottom_Dig

Marsh on September 8, 2008 at 6:16 PM

TMI, sir. :|

*eats*

Wrong time to use your signature dude…lol

GoodBoy on September 8, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 6:12 PM

If I said I have known for months and hinted… would you hate me?

upinak on September 8, 2008 at 6:19 PM

I think they got Matthews out of the spot to keep Olbermann happy. Olbermann was the bigger problem — he’s a famous diva, and his ego has been swelling to dangerous-even-for-him proportions lately — but if they moved Olbermann and not Matthews, Olbermann would go nuclear. MSNBC can’t risk that; they’re tied to him now. They need him. He’s not just part of their plan; he *is* their plan. And he and Matthews were squabbling on live TV. If things kept up, MSNBC would be looking at an amazing public blowout down the road. No choice: they had to move the boys into separate rooms.

It’s nothing to do with the appearance of bias, or with the question screening at the RNC. It’s all about MSNBC taking a small blow now so they don’t take a major one later. Because if Olbermann and Matthews really got into it later in the election season — loudly and on TV, to be shown on YouTube and every late-night comic’s show — MSNBC would wind up with serious problems. They’re not going to let that happen.

Well-Armed Lamb on September 8, 2008 at 6:20 PM

TV Newser: Is Matthews a fall guy for Olbermann?

The people in charge at MSNBC just can’t seem to get it right.

PSSST, MSNBC executives: You have three terrible, three stooges, that are keeping your network at the bottom of the barrel. Olbermann, Matthews, and white house combative dope David Gregory are the worst, of the worst! You could probably hire four blond chicks, at a million per head, like from FOX News, for what what you’re paying Keith Overbite, and get some terrific results. Or just keep sinking deeper in the news muddle puddle!

byteshredder on September 8, 2008 at 6:20 PM

What do you guys get out of this quote from the article:

An NBC News correspondent told us, it was “a move that needed to happen. There was a perception in the political world that what was going on at MSNBC was bleeding over into NBC News. It was an easy front for the GOP to exploit and thus a shake-up needed to happen.”

It was “an easy front for the GOP to exploit?” What the hell is that? Here’s how I read that line:

“Olbie and Matthews on the news team made our bias against McCain too easy to attack. So we removed them and put in Gregory, who also hates the GOP but is slightly less obvious about it, so we can regain plausible deniability.”

Outlander on September 8, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

Are you kidding? Who’s the Media Elite now, Allah?

Here’s your real exit question: Did we just see Sarah Palin’s first amazing demonstration of national leadership?

NYT: When the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin lamented media bias during her speech, attendees of the Republican convention loudly chanted “NBC.”

And hours later, Matthews and Obby are smoldering piles of charcoal. Here’s an even better exit question: Will Sarah Palin have a chilling effect on moonbat journalism?

HelenW on September 8, 2008 at 6:24 PM

They are both equally despicable.

Montana on September 8, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Dogs and fleas
Dogs and fleas

Bicyea on September 8, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Gives me a thrill right up both my middle fingers.

trailboss on September 8, 2008 at 6:26 PM

It was “an easy front for the GOP to exploit?” What the hell is that? Here’s how I read that line:

“Olbie and Matthews on the news team made our bias against McCain too easy to attack. So we removed them and put in Gregory, who also hates the GOP but is slightly less obvious about it, so we can regain plausible deniability.”

Outlander on September 8, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Correct analysis.

They got on the phone w/O-pollo and he said “you aren’t helping” they then thought through “what if O-pollo goes back to Mt O-lympus?”

And saw visions of John McCain’s press secretary smiling like Jack in the “Shining”….

sven10077 on September 8, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

Absolutely not. And I don’t care why they are in the tank for the donks. They’re biased and intentionally attempting to pervert our political process. Screw them both and all of the msm.

Blake on September 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM

They’re both a couple of absolute nutters; complete whack jobs that don’t deserve the honor of the position they were in. Look at what Rosie O’Donnell did to network TV; she boosted the ratings for all of the wrong reasons, and was eventually deemed “harmful”. Both of these men are in the same category with Rosie; complete far left nut cases. All of these people are out of the mainstream and appeal to a very small portion of the population. This begs the question “why do companies like GE promote and support such people sitting in important positions”? Matthews is a little bit closer to the ground than Olbermann, as only a few reach as far into the sky as old candy-man Keith.

BTW: Olbermann is an absolute embarrassment to the male race. This according to my wife. To me, he’s just a typical sissy-pussy Liberal male that was given a spotlight to showcase his ultra radical views. Keith is Rosie, only difference is that Keith might stand up while *******.

Keemo on September 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Both Olbermann and Matthews are verbose, obnoxious, rude and downright mean partisans.

During a MSNBC discussion, about John Kerry’s fitness to serve, as President of the United States, which included Chris Matthews, Michelle Malkin and San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, a few years ago, Matthews was so cruel and evil to Michelle Malkin that even democrat Zell Miller was forced to attack Matthews for his treatment of Malkin.

Matthews’ behavior was shocking and that of an arrogant bully. He doesn’t deserve coddling of any kind. He’s a grown man and it is time he takes responsibility for his unacceptable behavior.

Both men should have been demoted or fired a long time ago.

sinsing on September 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM

And hours later, Matthews and Obby are smoldering piles of charcoal. Here’s an even better exit question: Will Sarah Palin have a chilling effect on moonbat journalism?

HelenW on September 8, 2008 at 6:24 PM

only after the DNC takes Markos behind the woodshed and says, “thanks for all the help now SanFranNan is just a whip.”

sven10077 on September 8, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Treacher nailed this.

This mother of five has put the entire mainstream media on timeout.

Damiano on September 8, 2008 at 6:33 PM

From the way I read it, they are still going to be “analysts” they will just have Gregory there to babysit them. We haven’t really lost them, they are just putting on their proper hats.

Sue on September 8, 2008 at 6:37 PM

The only difference is their outward demeanor . . . Olbermann is a rabid rodent and Mathews is a coiled rattlesnake. Both are repulsive and dangerous.

rplat on September 8, 2008 at 6:40 PM

He should have maintained his integrity. Entelechy on September 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM

How does Matthews “maintain” something that is no longer there? I believe Matthews loved Olbermann’s infectious “airborne” disease, along with the rest of the crew. Only the embarassment of folks on the floor of the RNC chanting NBC,NBC got to the execs and advertisers who looked in the mirror and didn’t like what they saw.

The question still remains—–what took them so long to realize these two were a national laughing-stock?

Rovin on September 8, 2008 at 6:40 PM

The spin of all spin came fromn Denver’s 9News, (NBC Afiliate)this morning they said on air they were relieved because there was swabbaling among the two. (Sorry for the spelling)

KBird on September 8, 2008 at 6:43 PM

“I found it ironic and instructive that I could have easily said exactly what I did say, exactly when I did say it, if I had been wearing a different hat, and nobody would have taken any issue,” said Olby to the NYT yesterday. And actually, I agree with him:

Um..I find it hilarious that he would say that, given that on that infamous night, I watched him sign off (about 1:00 a.m.) with him plugging the 9/11 remembrance show that he will we doing on Thursday..ask my cat if you don’t believe me because the water I had just sipped flew out and landed on him!

Pam on September 8, 2008 at 6:45 PM

Frick and Frack deserved what they got. Tried to push their hatred for the right off as news, didn’t cut it. It was so blatant, I knew it would catch up to them sooner than later-surprised it happened when it did.

Static21 on September 8, 2008 at 6:47 PM

No tears here. Matthews’ downfall began when Zell Miller asked him, “Chris, do you know what a metty-fer is?”

rivlax on September 8, 2008 at 6:48 PM

I would hate to live in the world as MW and KO percieve it.

They must live in a special kind of hell.

TheSitRep on September 8, 2008 at 6:49 PM

Um..I find it hilarious that he would say that, given that on that infamous night, I watched him sign off (about 1:00 a.m.) with him plugging the 9/11 remembrance show that he will we doing on Thursday..ask my cat if you don’t believe me because the water I had just sipped flew out and landed on him!

Pam on September 8, 2008 at 6:45 PM

Pam “sprayed” her cat and two dogs got neutered—-on to globel warming!

Rovin on September 8, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Marsh on September 8, 2008 at 6:16 PM

I’m not suprised…

jerrytbg on September 8, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Rovin on September 8, 2008 at 6:50 PM

He was so mad at me! :)

Pam on September 8, 2008 at 6:58 PM

Gah, Allah, is this a blog post, or a final exam?

Hey, you have immigration on your mind, but WTH does that have to do with Olby and Matthews? I guess I’d have to ask Hitch. He knows these things.

Look, MSNBC must have gotten significant flak to admit to any degree at all that Olby was giving Republicans ammunition, since in reality they could care less what Republicans think. They gambled on wild putrescent nutroots/truther hate carrying the day, and it didn’t work out — yet. Olby gets yanked from what’s laughingly called the straight news — for now.

Matthews, who pretty much sold whatever integrity he had left over the last years (I think he had some, at least in the dim past, maybe) This is his reward for not bailing out when he saw the handwriting on the wall — someone who could carry the crazy further and more vitriolically than he. He made himself the fallguy. No pity.

Nichevo on September 8, 2008 at 7:00 PM

Yep, I’m still laughing at their just desserts too.

Maybe Chrissy’s next leg tingle will be at the hands of Olby shaking his pant leg looking for some respect. Or something.

notta_dhimmi on September 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM

om what I’ve seen the remaking of MSNBCs image is going to take more than this.

They need to rethink this whole balancing Fox thing. Fox balanced them… and yet it didn’t even really slant very far right at all.

So jumping off the left side of the cliff like they did… well it’s going to take someone who actually knows where the middle is to fix MSNBC and I’m not seeing anyone qualified.

petunia on September 8, 2008 at 6:05 PM

The Normal media all of them, CBS, NBC, ABC are slanted left of normal public audience.

MSNBC does NOT even need to exist! Its rabid propaganda thats all it is, FOX News is what i would call, Center Right(where the American electorate is, the country MOST OF THE PEOPLE are center right thats just reality)

Unfortunately, we are stuck with a liberal press, liberal late night talk show hosts and comics, liberal day time talk show hosts… a liberal entertainment industry, it’s so out of sink with what the people are, you know how the saying goes, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, the media is corrupt and has been exposed in a major way, everyone knew it before it was obvious but people just stood by and accepted it, and said “oh well.. theres nothing we can do..” .

Chakra Hammer on September 8, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Good riddance to Bathtub boy and Chris Tingle

RocketmanBob on September 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Well, at least KO has his new pet, rachel maddow, starting tonite. Think she’ll add some badly needed balance to the typical discourse heard on MSNBC? Think again…here is her thoughts on presenting both sides of an issue:

If it’s not illuminating to present two sides of an issue, I don’t want to,” she said.

DrW on September 8, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Stupid.

ZK on September 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Matthews used to be a sensible man. Halfway capable. If Obama loses he’ll wriggle his way out from under the MSNBC mess, spend a year or two in the wildnerness, I predict he’ll be sane again and rehabilitated by 2010.

Olbermann…I’ve never been able to figure out whether his bile is real, or just a shtick that he figured America was ready to buy, and that’d be saleable long enough for him to get filthy rich off of it. I’ve generally leaned toward the latter, and I still think that’s the case. He’s gone too far to ever be considered a serious newsman, but maybe he figures that he can always go back to sports.

Memo to Keith: my guess is that Sarah’s done with that, maybe she’ll be NBA commissioner after a couple terms in the Oval Office. Just hopin’.

JEM on September 8, 2008 at 7:51 PM

“Is Matthews collateral damage here?”

No. Mom said once, “Remember when you asked if you could jump off the bridge Jimmy jumped off? Well, Jimmy’s dead.”

Well, Mom didn’t really (have to) tell me that but Matthews is a big boy and he should have known better than to jump off the bridge Olby did.

Dusty on September 8, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Matthews is a blowhard but I have never had a problem with him because I never viewed him as anything but an analyst. Regardless of what position MSNBC put him in, he was there to give his left-leaning opinion.

Olbermann, on the other hand, showed that he is nothing more than a whore. I’ve said before that if O’Reilly had been on MSNBC first and had taken up the liberal cause, Olbermann would have gladly gone to Fox, sucked up to Sean Hannity and been Fox’s conservative guy. Olbermann is a trained monkey with no ethics whatsoever. I pray this new liberal chick gets insane ratings and they dump his ass. That is all NBC wants, someone who is a better draw then that idiot.

grdred944 on September 8, 2008 at 8:36 PM

*watches the yuotube video where Chris Mathews insulted Michelle Malkin.* Never mind. F* him.

wise_man on September 8, 2008 at 5:56 PM

*Watches the youtube where Jon Stewart skewers him and his stupid book.* Feel much better.

fossten on September 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Maybe they could have their own cooking show. They certainly can’t do real news.

Mojave Mark on September 8, 2008 at 9:23 PM

I can watch Mathwes on occassion but Olby is just offensive and eltist.

kangjie on September 8, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Both Olbermann and Matthews are verbose, obnoxious, rude and downright mean partisans.

sinsing on September 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM

This OT, but Alan Colmes drives me nuts! I am seriously thinking of starting an Olby Watch blog on Colmes. He was just on and is “asking the tough Sarah Palin questions” with the nice lady who wrote that book on Palin. She’s in Alaska and can hardly hear him and he’s doing his usual sarcastic grilling.

::stabs leg with knife as typing::

Mr_Magoo on September 8, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Is Matthews collateral damage here?

It’s hard to feel too badly for him but, I have to say, he was starting to look a little like a hostage toward the end of MSNBC’s coverage of the GOP convention. Just before they were about to sign off on Wednesday, when Olby was worriedly predicting that community organizers all over America would rise up against Rudy and Palin’s repeated taunting (still waiting on that), the look on Matthews’ face was priceless.

Infidoll on September 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Olby is the pitcher and Matthews is the catcher. :)

Seriously, if you think MSNBC is reconsidering their network’s obvious liberal bias, think again:

Wow, who saw this coming?

Dagnar on September 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM

FiveWays on September 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM

No way, when he spoke out against the chosen one, it was only to save his sorry butt as he knew they were way over the line. Mathews is more astute version of Colmes, Oby is just a ,,??? help me out here.

N4646W on September 9, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Collateral? If you go after a Muslim terrorist leader and blow him up in a room full of underlings, can you really call that collateral, or just icing on the cake.

SKYFOX on September 9, 2008 at 4:49 AM

I also vot “who cares?”

I think that MSNBC made a business decision for better or for worse. Matthews, unfortunate for him, also made a business decision to sit beside the crazy fella.

matthew26 on September 9, 2008 at 10:09 AM

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