The Recycled Flags of the DNCC; Update: Pathetic spin by Team O
posted at 12:00 pm on September 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Democrats brought out tens of thousands of American flags to Invesco Field, saluting Barack Obama as he spoke from the Styrofoam columns of the Barackopolis at the conclusion of the Democratic convention. Perhaps some of them took the flags home as souvenirs, but where did the rest go? According to David Harsanyi, they went into the trash — and would have gone to a landfill, except for a worker at Invesco who rescued them from the dumpsters:
This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage. Guerrilla campaigning. They will use these flags at their own event today in Colorado Springs with John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Before McCain speaks today, veterans will haul these garbage bags filled with flags out onto the stage — with dramatic effect, no doubt — and tell the story.
Didn’t anyone make arrangements for better disposal of these flags from Invesco? At the very least, they were an investment that could have been re-used at rallies in Colorado as well as the rest of the nation during the general election. Instead, they’ve handed a dramatic moment to John McCain and Sarah Palin, as well as relieved them of the cost of 12,000 such flags — as well as a full 3′x5′ flag that also wound up in the trash.
Remember when the DNCC was supposed to be the “greenest convention ever”? How they worried about the color of the food and using organic materials in their merchandise? I guess we can see where the “green” concern ends … at red, white, and blue.
Still … I hope the RNCC did a better job rescuing discarded flags at the Xcel Center.
Update: If you want to know how to properly dispose of flags, you can check the US Flag Code. If you’re still confused, contact your local American Legion or VFW, and they will help you dispose of them. (h/t: Indythinker in comments)
Update II: I’m getting e-mails saying that we need to “stop the lies” because Team Obama put this out as a statement:
Stories circulating about flags from the Democratic National Convention are false. More than 125,000 American-made flags were distributed at the Convention – any flags removed from the Convention after the event were taken without authorization. It’s disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe their intended purpose. We have the utmost respect for the American flag and it’s sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt.
They claim that the flags were “bundled” for return to their manufacturer. If so, it’s the first time I’ve ever heard of anyone bundling returned merchandise in Hefty bags and storing them “in and around dumpsters” while awaiting the RMA. Here’s the picture that ran in the Denver Post:

I sincerely doubt that these flags got sold to Team Obama in Hefty bags. And let’s try to parse this story down with some common sense:
- Why would a manufacturer provide a refund on open product? They certainly couldn’t resell them, especially not after being left like this at Invesco.
- 12,000 flags must have cost at least $2,000 or so, and probably more. Once Democrats discovered the “theft”, why didn’t they report it to the police? It’s been more than a week apparently since they were “stolen”, and Team Obama just discovered it?
- Leaving material in and around dumpsters, especially in Hefty bags, makes it look like trash. That’s hardly a way to store American flags, and it’s certainly not a way to keep janitors and waste management people from taking them to landfills.
Instead of just saying that their people made a really stupid error and apologizing, though, Team Obama decided to tell a ridiculous lie to get themselves off the hook.
Update III: David Harsanyi now has several updates to his first report, including this:
I just spoke with the person at Invesco who found the flags and he thinks both sides are exaggerating a bit. The person claims the majority of the bags with flags in them were near the trash, on a dock, and would have been thrown away. The person thinks it was probably an “oversight” by the Democrats rather than any nefarious plot against the flag. But the person doesn’t believe anyone was coming to get them: “The flags were there for a week and a day and no one came looking for them.”
No one suggested here that it was a “nefarious plot”, and like Harsanyi, I hardly think that Obama would have directed his staff to throw 12,000 American flags in a dumpster. In fact, until Team Obama issued this ludicrous statement, the story didn’t have anything to do with them. However, the obvious carelessness with which the DNCC treated the flags is a rather revealing moment for them, and the lie for people in Obama’s organization.
Update IV: Gateway Pundit has pictures of individual flags sitting in trash bags, but that’s not the DNCC’s fault; it’s the fault of the individuals who threw out their flags. The DNCC couldn’t possibly be expected to sort through all of the thousands of bags of normal trash. They can be expected to know better than to toss 12,000 American flags in with it.
Jazz Shaw’s following the story at TMV.
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Walking the edge of banning.
People get banned for using the shortened word for Japanese…The wrong word for Gays…The wrong word for Mexican…The wrong word for Blacks…keep pushing the envelope and you will be next.
right2bright on September 6, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Have been out all afternoon and just logged on. To those who feel the American flag is ‘just a symbol’ I say may God take pity on your empty soul. There are many who have left their lives on battlefields to protect and defend that glorious symbol. Anyone who feels it is ‘just a symbol’ doesn’t get the meaning of patriotism and will never get it, they just take freedom for granted. As for those who left the flag in garbage bags, anyone with a scintilla of intelligence will realize that is just one lame excuse. If those people truly were returning them for credit, they would have been shipped back already. Bet the styrofoam columns were carefully preserved (probably for the Smithsonian). They have no regard for the flag or what it represents. What can you expect from Marxists and Socialists.
red131 on September 6, 2008 at 5:10 PM
I don’t know what the Obamaniacs and the other Dems are bitching about. Aren’t they all for recycling and “being green”?
Yup! And the Obama campaign will whine like a little girl about how they are “picking on poor widdle Barak for what his BFF did. After all, isn’t terrorism the highest form of dissent?”
Nahanni on September 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 5:10 PM –
Awesome…simply awesome.
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I like the “it’s just a flag” explanation by some.
Yeah, well, the Nazi Swastika was just a flag too. Don’t tell me that doesn’t mean something.
Don’t tell me the American flag doesn’t mean something to people who fight and work to become American citizens. Don’t tell me that flag doesn’t mean something when you’re in another country without a passport. Don’t tell me that flag doesn’t mean something to the people liberated from brutal regimes.
As much as some people hate the country they live in, do not ever tell me that the American flag means nothing. Putzes.
mjk on September 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM
I bet you’ve never gotten your hands dirty making a living in your whole miserable life, Nancy. You’re an insurance salesman. What does that make you, the King of Siam?
…elitism. Chairman Mao approves.
SilverStar830 on September 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Let’s see. You want to return a product to a manufacturer claiming it was not used. Do you:
A. Put it back in the box it was shipped in, place a return mailing label and postage on it, and delivery it to the Post office; or
B. Stuff as many into a plastic garbage bag as the bag will hold and set the bags beside the dumpster with no label, postage or identification of any kind?
Answer will be posted below. Take your time.
Jim M. on September 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 5:10 PM
I’m crying.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 5:25 PM
If the flag is a representation of our country, then wouldn’t what you wrote effectively say, “it’s disrespectful to treat the flag [a representation of our country] that way, but to treat a representation of the flag [a representation of the country] like that is ok?” You’re right, the flag code was out of “love and respect.” I’m not trying to split hairs, but the purpose of the flag code is to make citizens aware of the proper etiquette and traditions of respect for the flag, which is why there are rules against apparels and napkins with such representations. These rules are also the reason they can’t get a Constitutional Amendment to ban flag desecration (i.e. burning). If we banned flag burning, then they’d just get a picture of the flag and burn that, or they’d burn a flag shirt or some such.
You’re very right, most folks don’t mean any harm and love this country and mean no disrespect for the flag. My overriding point is that if people wished to respect the flag, they’d start by following the official rules for respecting the flag. (No, I wouldn’t call the cops or punch somebody. I’d approach them by saying, “hey man, not to be rude, but I wasn’t sure if you knew the flag code says such and such…”)
Send_Me on September 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Yes, and you can bet that Hillary Clinton and Obama personally oversaw the removal and disposal of the flags. If given the chance, they would have preferred to burn the flags but unfortunately ran out of time.
It’s surprising that the Dems didn’t demand that everything used in the convention be recycled, if possible. My bet is that Republicans can find a lot of other things that were handled inappropriately when the convention ended.
bayam on September 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Funny I noticed that today too. Try the “key” words “Memorial Day Adventure” and it should pop up. Or here:
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Don’t be an idiot, this was a huge screw up politically.
I’d like to know the name of the idiot who actually oversaw disposal of the flags. Was it the contractor’s company that made the decision? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that US flags have resale value, not to mention the complete lack of regard for the environment that comes in throwing something like this away.
What do conventions normally do with flags after an event?
bayam on September 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM
alphied:
When the Democrats took control of Congress in the fall of 2006, after years of Republican control…the unemployment rate was about 4.5%. The price of gas was about $2.25 a gallon. The price of oil was about $60 a barrel and the deficit was half what it is now.
So, if this is what the Democrats can do in two short years controlling the Congress…what makes you think that total control of the government would not be worse?
BTW, when it comes to Bill Clinton and the economy, remember he is the guy who brought you NAFTA, which Obama promises to renegotiate. He also looked the other way when the lending practices we have heard so much about really got started. I know, I had a real estate license and I can remember when all those mortgage companies with their 100% loans first started operating. He was the guy who failed to notice Enron. He failed to notice the impending dot com crash that hit the economy about the time he left. That surplus he was so proud of was gone before Bush laid his hand on that bible.
In truth I don’t think that politics has as much to do with the economy as some people claim. Business cycles just happen.
btw, it is interesting how you changed the subject from some idiot Democrats throwing thousands of flags into the trash.
Terrye on September 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM
RobertinAustin, thanks for the tears.
This from the party which is “for the children”.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 5:35 PM
bayam:
I wondered the same thing. I would think that they would go to the American Legion or the VFW. In fact if you have an old flag in tatters or whatever, those are the best places to take it. But the Legion will distribute flags for veterans events and things like that.
Terrye on September 6, 2008 at 5:38 PM
McCain gave these flags to his supporters today at rally
William Amos on September 6, 2008 at 5:41 PM
The second would be a representation of a representation of our country. It’s clearly a step removed.
I think the flag belongs to the people, honestly, and certainly it’s meaning does. I don’t object to the flag code, but clearly it’s not enforced by society. Lots of patriots break it with love. There isn’t a societal backlash against flag-oriented things. There is no mandate for that part of the etiquette, in other words.
No, they would start by respecting the flag. The rules are a guideline so respect the flag, it’s an attempt to add gravitas by tradition. I think the blood spilt for the flag respects it far more than any rules ever can or ever will. For example, etiquette requires the replacement of torn or holed flags. Yet when replacement flags were issued in CW (for ex) units wouldn’t give up their old, etiquette breaking ones.
I’m not advocating removal of the code though. And I don’t object, fwiw, for a Constitutional adment on flag burning. As long as it’s the will of the people, fine by me.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2008 at 5:41 PM
? I think you have misread me entirely. My first comment in this thread plainly states that it was horrible decision political and a sad decision non-politically.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2008 at 5:43 PM
We had Marines at my high school during that time and I had been pretty mouthy with them. I remember I called them Reagan’s little fascist jar heads.
I started pulling away from my friends and was just hanging out by myself during that time. I came to school after I had my revelation and I had painted over my anarchist circle A on the back of my leather jacket. They all freaked out. I had bright orange hair, I was into the punk scene when it wasn’t cool and trendy, and I walked up two a couple of Marine recruiters that I had insulted and stuck my hand out to shake theirs. They just kind of looked at me not sure if I was setting them up for a prank. I explained to them what I had discovered and told them I was deeply and truly sorry for insulting them. The guy about gave me a hug. I was teary eyed when I was talking with them.
Like McCain, I learned to love my country, and I learned it from a young man who died in the mud 1 year almost to the day before I was born.
Well, my free thinking liberal friends showed their true colors. I found out who the real fascist were.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Glad you shared your history. It’s storybook.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Thanks for that Robert. Much appreciated. *wipes tear from eye
RobertCSampson on September 6, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I too had tears for RobertinAustin’s story.
Thank you.
Anna on September 6, 2008 at 5:53 PM
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Your killing me. Not really this is a super story. I am a firm believer that God talks to us everyday, just most of the time we don’t listen.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 5:53 PM
I missed your post earlier RA, sorry I would have commented on it sooner but it was hard to see the keyboard through the water in my eyes.
Welcome home my brother.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 5:54 PM
The US Flag Code.
Having a paper plate or napkin or other item with stars and stripes on them is not a Flag. It is decoration. Using stars and stripes, even cloth objects, is bunting, not a Flag.
A representational “flag” like a few stars and a few stripes on a credit card is not a Flag, nor is displaying a portion of a Flag on advetising not considered a Flag.
Yes, the symbolism is there, the suggestion of the Flag and what it represents is there…but unlesss the paper plates or napkins displays a full face proportional Flag, there is no wrongdoing. Tacky for some, disrespectful for many, but no impropriety. If an object has a full face proportional Flag on it, it is a Flag, under the Flag Code. Cutting apart a Flag to make a shirt, or poncho, or as decoration…that’s still a Flag..and comes under the Flag Code. Wearing a Flag patch on the sleeve or breast of a uniform is a Flag. And the Flag should be removed before disposing of the article of clothing.
These Invesco Field flags, all 12,000 of them were collected after the event, which means, especially those found in trash bags along with refuse, that they had been collected off the floor and field at Invesco…had been discarded. Bagging and assembling these discarded flags near the dumpsters suggests that they were not destined to be “returned” to the manufacturer nor saved for later use. Had they been collected, and placed in a separate room at Invesco, properly folded or stacked, sorted by size, and the Invesco custodial crews informed that they’d be picked up at a particular date for removal, then, the apologists might have as valid point.
But they didn’t and they don’t. Now, claiming that the GOP somehow “stole” them or paid someone to scarf them up…it rings hollow because it is hollow. It is a lie.
On the personal side, if I saw someone burning the Flag, I wouldn’t call the cops, but someone would have to call the cops and the EMT squad. The cops to get me off the limp body of the guy doing the burning as I pummeled him toward non-existance and the EMT’s to try to render necessary life-saving measures to the guy who tried to burn the Flag. I’d be exercising my freedom of expression, and get charged with assualt/battery…I’d pay my fine, do whatever time imposed. And, out of respect for so many I have known, and so many whom I’ll never know, I’d feel good about it.
As for the Flag Code…it isn’t taught in our schools, and Flag Day, 14 June, is observed by very very few anymore. Wish it wasn’t so. Head down to your local public grade school or high school and try to pass out copies of the Flag Code sometime. Just try giving them to the school principal. Share your results. The ACLU has been over this one many many times already. Too inflamatory to try to instill respect for the Flag in many many school districts. Anti-immigrant in others. Anti-Muslim in others.
6 pages of comments on this issue. Guess we’ve covered the basics. Wish we didn’t have to.
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Thank you for the leads, 1GooDDaDDy. I can’t tell you how glad I am that I asked for it.
I urge everyone to go watch his videos of his family’s experience ‘displaying’ the U.S. Flag.
Start here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyMv-myhFs
God bless you and your entire family.
PattyAnn on September 6, 2008 at 5:55 PM
And RobertInAustin, you should be proud of your personal journey. Very proud indeed. Awesome. It really is.
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Don’t much know about that, but the GOP did just as good a job as the democrats did in hiding how it’s convention and parties and expensive food and booze were mostly paid for by lobbyists.
KentAllard on September 6, 2008 at 5:59 PM
I just found as a liberal I didn’t believe in anything. I was the sum of everything. It was all about me. The class envy, the bitterness.
I began to look at my country in a whole new light. I came to belive, and still do, that we are the greatest nation on the face of the earth at this time. I say that because people will leave behind everything they know, or ever knew, and in some cases risk life and limb just to get here and have a shot at making it. People don’t do that to get into socialized/communist countries.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:01 PM
1. William Ayres standing on the flag.
2. This picture of flags ready to be throw away.
Both images are etched in my mind as an example of the dems campaign.
Gulf Coast on September 6, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Thank you m’lady.
I believe in putting your money where your mouth is.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 6:06 PM
I just write this because of peope like Alphie. He has nothing to believe in that is greater than himself and the collective. That is why he fights so hard to defend it. His system has never created nations, they have only consumed the resources and destroyed nations. Let’s see socialism/communism create a workers paradise from scratch.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:09 PM
I’m with ya Robert.
As a former Liberal, I used to think that any displays of patriotism were stupid, simple-minded, hickish, almost nazi-like, and utter cornball nonsense.
Then as my opinion was very gradually changing-
9/11 happened.
I bought my first flag on Sept 12 2001.
I fly it on every national Holiday. I never leave it up over night. And it NEVER touches the ground.
On 9/11 I realized that being an American was not only an honor-
it was a PRIVILEGE-
paid for in blood.
FiveWays on September 6, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Yeah, Robert.
The Confederacy living off welfare from California and New York is the best your ilk have achieved.
Remember your manners and say thanks to the dirty hippies paying for your primitive lifestyles.
alphie on September 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM
KentAllard on September 6, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Please who cares. Are you against Planned Parenthood? They are lobbyists. Do you think a little food and drink for the masses of people at either convention is going to wreck the Republic? Lobbyists are a form for free speech, AARP, PETA, NAACP, NRA, RIGHT TO LIFE, these are all lobbyist. They have a right to exist and it is politician to be honest or not.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Stupid Dems. They had the chance to burn hundreds of flag and get all self-righteous when someone who didn’t know this got mad.
baldilocks on September 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM
alphie on September 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM
What the hell does that mean? You say nothing almost as well as Sen. Obama.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Yutti hoodtaly wagility frollhgry, baoooutcom?
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 6:19 PM
You exercised your freedom of speech alice-
now it’s my turn.
Go f*ck yourself scumbag.
Your existence is proof of this country’s tremendous capacity to grant freedom to all-
even the turds-
like you.
FiveWays on September 6, 2008 at 6:21 PM
“Breeders” – an epithet used by homosexuals to describe heterosexuals. Hmmmmm. Interesting.
ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 6:22 PM
*YAWN*
ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Guys, don’t get mad at Alphie, all he has is sound and fury such signifying nothing. I mean, really, it’s all he has.
Also, I was born and raised on Southern California. Business is fleeing the state along with the jobs. Again, socialism drying up resources and destroying a state.
Again, create a workers paradise from scratch.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:25 PM
RiA, please look into having your story printed. Millions need to read it. The time is now.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 6:28 PM
FiveWays on September 6, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Don’t hold back, tell him how you really feel. LOL!!!
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Your local Boy Scout Troop will help with that too.
Don Carne on September 6, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Yeah-
I’m getting too damn subtle these days…….
FiveWays on September 6, 2008 at 6:35 PM
It’s pretty simple, FiveWays.
If y’all want to call yourselves capitalists…stop taking handouts from the federal government.
alphie on September 6, 2008 at 6:35 PM
If a flag is just a flag, why can’t South Carolina put the Confederate Battle Flag back a top their state house? Dems shouldn’t mind that I guess, because “it’s just a flag.”
Buford on September 6, 2008 at 6:35 PM
FYI, this story is 100% bullshit.
Good job getting over 500 comments on a story with no truth to it.
AJB on September 6, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Entelechy,
Why not just copy and pass along to all your friends in your address book? Much quicker, people get inspired and best of all it’s free.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Yet ANOTHER example of team Obama’s disdain for this country. As soon as the cameras were off the flag they pretended to revere went in to the trash like the imperialist symbol they truly see it as.
This should be a real shocker, but the MSM/DNC cabal will cover it up and only Fox News viewers will hear of it. The cabal can’t let something stupid like the flag of the United States of America get in the way of the Messiah’s ascension to the throne.
Woody on September 6, 2008 at 6:40 PM
Sorry for so many posts. I am writing on the iPhone.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:41 PM
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:39 PM
No seriously, she’s right. You need to write. I don’t know where you should put it but I bet the folks here have plenty of good ideas.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Let’s do both, now that we have your permission. Thank you,
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 6:42 PM
FiveWays on September 6, 2008 at 6:35 PM
I think the favorite Hot Air term is nuance.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Actually, bayam, it is not surprising. The Dems are as phony on this issue as they are on all the others. Just ask Algore.
ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 6:44 PM
AJB on September 6, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Could be but you better come back with another source because the one you sited isn’t going to work.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 6:45 PM
RiA, start here.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Froody dradad yo…ah…um…wastila ah…um…poratdy?
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 6:45 PM
THIS STORY IS COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT:
Ed, if you had any sense of integrity you would update your post with a retraction and an apology.
AJB on September 6, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Alphie,
I get no handouts.
I have payed for my EMS schooling. I got no grants, no loans. I lived in a 20ft travel trailer while I was in school. I was one of “the least of these” that Obama talks about and I did it all without any of his help, or the help of any community activist.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM
RiA, I tried to send you a link, but it’s in the mill. Google “Veterans and Military Publications”, for a start.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Hmph, So much for that story.
Stay classy McCain bots.
LibertarianConservative on September 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Geez…HufPo as a source?
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Comment 534: What they said (comments 1 – 533).
It’s comforting to know that a post about disrespecting the flag can generate 534 comments in just a few hours. Makes me humble in the presence of conservative patriots.
God Bless America.
Mr_Magoo on September 6, 2008 at 6:52 PM
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Gave me goosebumps…
and
“Memorial Day Adventure” by 1GooDDaDDy
Very educational and entertaining. Incredibly timely to watch today. That was a heckuva smack upside the head!
tru2tx on September 6, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Before you fall for the HuffPoo, see this video. The leftie is not saying that it’s not true, he just says that politics is being played, “so close to 9/11, and especially in the spirit of co-visiting the site”…yada, yada, yada.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 6:53 PM
The leftie also keeps saying “the flags were waved during the convention and that’s patriotic” – he doesn’t deny what happened to them afterwards.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM
I’m sure this has already been said, but can’t wait to see THAT video. That will help as Ohio has mosved from toss-up to Leans Republican in the Rasmussen polls.
Mr_Magoo on September 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM
everyone on here has my permission to do with my story as you wish. If you like to write one of those novels “inspired” by a true story, feel free. I do not need, nor do I want any credit. If you do sell your writings, please keep enough for yourself and donate some to a good charity is all I ask.
RobertInAustin on September 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Huffington as a source? Does the Ko’s give you your biblical guidance
swassociates on September 6, 2008 at 6:56 PM
LibertarianConservative on September 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM –
An Anonymous “source” within the Obama campaign makes a claim and you buy it lock stock and barrel? No proffer of evidence, nothing. (Still waiting for Burkett who was allegedly handed the TANG “documents” to come around with the name of the person who allegedly passed them to him.)
The Obamatrons will be playing catch-up all the way till 5 November, as McCain/Palin set the agenda for the next 60 days. If we keep the Obama campaign, and their blog sock-puppets, forced to react off-message…this is going to be child’s play.
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 7:01 PM
When we were surrounded at Khe Sahn by 40.000 P/O commies, I knew we (Marines) had finally had them just where we wanted them. In our sights.
No dif. in SacTown.
Lefties are what I eat for breakfast.
I’ve been smacked by better people and had a beer with them later…not this time.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 7:02 PM
AJB..
Oh now that’s a really credible source…
Now using the thingy on your shoulders.. what else is the dem party supposed to say.. oops we got caught..
Here’s the thing.. if you “plan” (operative word) on using these items again later, then you “plan” on how you are going to move them again.. Given they come in master boxes anyone with a brain would “plan” on returning them to those same boxes for use to transport to their next “planned” destination..
You certainly don’t put them in “trash” bags next to “trash” bins and not have people think they aren’t trash..
They had to make up a story and the one they created sounds “plausible” to those who go baaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
theblacksheepwasright on September 6, 2008 at 7:03 PM
AJB on September 6, 2008 at 6:46 PM
AJB, your post merely links to a hard-left hate site claiming that an anonymous democrat party “official” denies the flag account.
Isn’t anyone in the Democrat Party man enough to go on record and refute the charge?
If the story is false, it ought to be refuted by a named source, and it ought to be put in a press release to credible media outlets, not floated as a rumor on a hard-left hate site.
Thank you.
jeff_from_mpls on September 6, 2008 at 7:04 PM
HA HA HA HA BUSTED! WELFARE MENTALITY! LACK OF WORK ETHIC! To hell with these flags just throw em away.
sonnyspats1 on September 6, 2008 at 7:05 PM
A flag is a symbol of our country.
Those were not so much flags as they were just temporary props to fool a few Americans into thinking that Barack Hussain Obama likes teh U.S.
TheSitRep on September 6, 2008 at 7:06 PM
AJB on September 6, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Anonymous sources from the campaign from the Huffington Post, I know I am sorry about everything I wrote here.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 7:07 PM
I don’t know if anyone else has said this, but why not take those extra flags and put them on the graves of veterans? I’m sure that there has to be plenty of graves that have a faded or worn flag, or flags that have blown away. My uncle was a veteran, and every time we visit his grave, the flag we put there is often gone. So why not honor our vets and fallen soldiers by planting a flag on their final resting place?
Honoris Causa…
Silverblade
Silverblade on September 6, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Silverblade on September 6, 2008 at 7:20 PM
It was suggested. They gave them to the folks at the rally and requested that they treat them respectfully. I am under the impression that these flags fell into the campaigns’ lap and they did the best they could with the situation.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Please do and get it thing published. I’d love to read it.
indythinker on September 6, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Wait a minute.
AJB may be right about the flag story being reported wrong by McCain. Afterall, AJB cites an unimpeachable source to counter this claim.
LOL!!!!!!!
FiveWays on September 6, 2008 at 7:27 PM
The obama camp says they had plans for the flags,..my question is “if obamatheliar camp was sooooo worried about the American Flags and the plans they had,…WHY then did they not notice them missing until September 6th?”
christene on September 6, 2008 at 7:35 PM
AJB..
One other point.. I personally get booths at conventions..
Rules of use are anything left on the convention floor or elsewhere 24 hours after doors are closed is understood will be thrown away..
Given these sat for 8 days.. they were destined for the trash but someone saved them..
Easy way to find out.. check into the rules of use for Invesco Field.. you’ll find given shceduling for football all items were to be cleared out within 24-48 hours but certainly not 8 days…
theblacksheepwasright on September 6, 2008 at 7:35 PM
christene on September 6, 2008 at 7:35 PM –
Your on track, christene. This is how investigative work works best. Take the “story” apart on the little things, the obvious things, but the things that are lost in the lie process because the liar is focused on the big lie.
theblacksheepwasright on September 6, 2008 at 7:35 PM –
Again, on the right track. If these flags were “left” for someone to pick up later, and Invesco Field was being prepared for todays’ Dodge Ram Challenge why were they not sequestered away safely and not left in the service bay/loading dock at Invesco?
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Now let me see. First, they were going to be sent back to the manufacturer.
No…wait… to be used at another event. Yeah, that’s it -
Huff Po can’t even get the straight story on their own story.
AJB needs to apologize to Ed.
tru2tx on September 6, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Riiiiiiiggghhht!!! Because the Dems say that it is…
Thanks for the clarification.
IrishGirl17 on September 6, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Or maybe they ran out of $4 gasoline, they couldn’t afford it and windmills weren’t up to speed.
txdoc on September 6, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Plausible deniability…uh, er…no.
alwaysright43 on September 6, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Liar, liar pants on fire.
NoFanofLibs on September 6, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Sure and Obama crapped his flag boxers when the story got out.
txdoc on September 6, 2008 at 8:06 PM
I was under the impression that was the picture after they had been saved. There are links in this thread I believe that have the flags in trash bags along with water bottles, pizza boxes, etc. The story of them not to be trashed is completely unbelievable.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Just a few of the other pictures of the Invesco flags…
Sure doesn’t look like “leftover bundles” to me.
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 8:09 PM
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