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The Recycled Flags of the DNCC; Update: Pathetic spin by Team O

posted at 12:00 pm on September 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Democrats brought out tens of thousands of American flags to Invesco Field, saluting Barack Obama as he spoke from the Styrofoam columns of the Barackopolis at the conclusion of the Democratic convention.  Perhaps some of them took the flags home as souvenirs, but where did the rest go?  According to David Harsanyi, they went into the trash — and would have gone to a landfill, except for a worker at Invesco who rescued them from the dumpsters:

This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage. Guerrilla campaigning. They will use these flags at their own event today in Colorado Springs with John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Before McCain speaks today, veterans will haul these garbage bags filled with flags out onto the stage — with dramatic effect, no doubt — and tell the story.

Didn’t anyone make arrangements for better disposal of these flags from Invesco?  At the very least, they were an investment that could have been re-used at rallies in Colorado as well as the rest of the nation during the general election.  Instead, they’ve handed a dramatic moment to John McCain and Sarah Palin, as well as relieved them of the cost of 12,000 such flags — as well as a full 3′x5′ flag that also wound up in the trash.

Remember when the DNCC was supposed to be the “greenest convention ever”?  How they worried about the color of the food and using organic materials in their merchandise?  I guess we can see where the “green” concern ends … at red, white, and blue.

Still … I hope the RNCC did a better job rescuing discarded flags at the Xcel Center.

Update: If you want to know how to properly dispose of flags, you can check the US Flag Code. If you’re still confused, contact your local American Legion or VFW, and they will help you dispose of them.  (h/t: Indythinker in comments)

Update II: I’m getting e-mails saying that we need to “stop the lies” because Team Obama put this out as a statement:

Stories circulating about flags from the Democratic National Convention are false. More than 125,000 American-made flags were distributed at the Convention – any flags removed from the Convention after the event were taken without authorization.  It’s disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe their intended purpose. We have the utmost respect for the American flag and it’s sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt.

They claim that the flags were “bundled” for return to their manufacturer.  If so, it’s the first time I’ve ever heard of anyone bundling returned merchandise in Hefty bags and storing them “in and around dumpsters” while awaiting the RMA.  Here’s the picture that ran in the Denver Post:

I sincerely doubt that these flags got sold to Team Obama in Hefty bags.  And let’s try to parse this story down with some common sense:

  • Why would a manufacturer provide a refund on open product?  They certainly couldn’t resell them, especially not after being left like this at Invesco.
  • 12,000 flags must have cost at least $2,000 or so, and probably more.  Once Democrats discovered the “theft”, why didn’t they report it to the police?  It’s been more than a week apparently since they were “stolen”, and Team Obama just discovered it?
  • Leaving material in and around dumpsters, especially in Hefty bags, makes it look like trash.  That’s hardly a way to store American flags, and it’s certainly not a way to keep janitors and waste management people from taking them to landfills.

Instead of just saying that their people made a really stupid error and apologizing, though, Team Obama decided to tell a ridiculous lie to get themselves off the hook.

Update III: David Harsanyi now has several updates to his first report, including this:

I just spoke with the person at Invesco who found the flags and he thinks both sides are exaggerating a bit. The person claims the majority of the bags with flags in them were near the trash, on a dock, and would have been thrown away. The person thinks it was probably an “oversight” by the Democrats rather than any nefarious plot against the flag. But the person doesn’t believe anyone was coming to get them: “The flags were there for a week and a day and no one came looking for them.”

No one suggested here that it was a “nefarious plot”, and like Harsanyi, I hardly think that Obama would have directed his staff to throw 12,000 American flags in a dumpster.  In fact, until Team Obama issued this ludicrous statement, the story didn’t have anything to do with them.   However, the obvious carelessness with which the DNCC treated the flags is a rather revealing moment for them, and the lie for people in Obama’s organization.

Update IV: Gateway Pundit has pictures of individual flags sitting in trash bags, but that’s not the DNCC’s fault; it’s the fault of the individuals who threw out their flags.  The DNCC couldn’t possibly be expected to sort through all of the thousands of bags of normal trash.  They can be expected to know better than to toss 12,000 American flags in with it.

Jazz Shaw’s following the story at TMV.


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Obama’s Friend Terrorist Bill Ayers shows his love of country!

Mr. Joe on September 6, 2008 at 2:13 PM

OMG!

Look at that picture on Fox!!!

IrishEi on September 6, 2008 at 2:14 PM

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:13 PM –

Several hundred full-size flags…$25-$50 a pop…that ain’t chump change.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM

I think they’ve distributed all 12,000 of them!

IrishEi on September 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Obama, on Fix, live…doing his Flip Wilson gig…talking about the GOP “They must think you’re stupid! Snicker, snicker.” Not a lot of people in his crowd, a handful compared to Colorado Springs.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Has anyone seen Obama’s missing gravitas lately? I think I spotted the Governor wearing it.

econavenger on September 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM

IrishEi on September 6, 2008 at 2:14 PM

D E V A S T A T I N G

CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Just shown on Fox: Oh my! A sea of rescued flags at the McCain/Palin rally! What a sight!

TheBigOldDog on September 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Carl Cameron on Fox is reporting that McCain staff have asked that if anyone doesn’t want to take the flags home, return them to the staff members and they will be placed at cemeteries and other memorials around the country.

Kevin71 on September 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Someone is paying attention to Hot Air commenters!

Missy on September 6, 2008 at 2:16 PM

No way Obama is going to be able to ignore this one.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Oh to be a fly on the wall!

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:16 PM

IrishEi on September 6, 2008 at 2:14 PM –

A sea of Americans. A sea of American Flags. Sun shining in a blue sky. I’m liking this new morning in America theme.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Ed, the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) are also legally allowed to respectfully ‘retire’ a flag and I can tell you, it is a bit of a somber ceremony when you retire “ol’ Glory”. Every Scout I’ve seen while there has been dead silent, and it’s there that I think people understand the full meaning of our Nation’s flag. Generaly the time to “retire” a flag is after it becomes so worn (Tattered/ripped/frayed from high winds for example, and/or the colors fade).

Razgriez on September 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM

TheBigOldDog on September 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM

I repeat: D E V A S T A T I N G

and beautiful, too.

I wonder if anyone else is carrying it… looks like CNN may have been doing the story live, too.

CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM

I’m watching DirecTV’s newsmix station it shows CNN,MSNBC,FOX and others (8 in all) at the same time.

FOX is the only one mentioning the flags so far.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Gonna see those images in some ads, you betcha.

CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Has everyone also seen THIS???

How stupid are these people???

Mr. Right on September 6, 2008 at 2:19 PM

The unemployment number yesterday was worse than had been forecast. The Palin pick is very positive for several reasons, but ultimately this election will likely come down to the economy as the dominant issue, not flags or pins.

They need to avoid additional Phil Gramm type mistakes, even Kudlow has called the current economic problems a “type of recession”. McCain can win on this issue but he still has a lot of work to do.

dedalus on September 6, 2008 at 2:07 PM

The campaign will come down to, like ALL campaigns do, to whoever can FRAME the issues in a way that grabs the countries attention (i.e. “It’s the economy, stupid.”)

This image won’t kill Obama (mostly because the MSM won’t run to much with it), but it DOES give McCain further ammo to frame the debate and define which issues are the important ones.

Religious_Zealot on September 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Yet another example of the corruption of the media.

TheBigOldDog on September 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Hey – I got the Newsmix, too – have a feeling it’s gonna be on a lot over the next couple months at Polit-Junkie HQs. I know they were reporting from the invent, but caught only the tail end of the report.

Over.

CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM

OBAMA WAS RIGHT

We should judge his ability to be President based on the management of his pathetic imploding campaign!

econavenger on September 6, 2008 at 2:21 PM

In case some of you have missed this, here are some more photos from Invesco somebody posted here earlier.

Obama convention throw US Flags in the Trash

TheBigOldDog on September 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM

I thought the libs believed in recycling.

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Religious_Zealot on September 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM –

Ya know, McCain can readily use this week’s economic figures to his advantage, if he ties it all closely to energy indpendence and new energy policy, and puts the blame squarely where it belongs…Reid and Pelosi standing in the way of development for purely partisan reasons. When McCain’s program of a vast orientation towards new energy gets underway it will require thousands to fill the first level jobs, and thousands more in secondary and tertiary industries and services, and where is the manpower for that going to come from? Americans. Thousands and thousands of them.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:24 PM

OBAMA WAS RIGHT

We should judge his ability to be President based on the management of his pathetic imploding campaign!

econavenger on September 6, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Beautiful…that’s right…us it Johnny.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Didn’t the Democrtas also print up flyers or– that had the American flag upside down?

Take a photo of both side by side… will tell a tall tale

theblacksheepwasright on September 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Also, don’t forget the local Boy Scout Troops that also retire flags properly and with dignity.

HarryStar on September 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM

This episode is another example of how liberalism in general and Obama’s blatant Marxism and utter lack of understanding of the principles and traits of leadership have solidified the liberal view that our Nation can be discarded, as citizens we can be discarded, and our national symbols can be discarded.

All in the name of Hope and Change.

grumpy_old_soldier on September 6, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Religious_Zealot on September 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM

It gives McCain some attention. What he does with that attention is up to him.

bnelson44 on September 6, 2008 at 2:29 PM

CNN: “Democratic official claims flag controversy is FALSE!!!”

I just switched over so don’t know the particulars but they do have a shot of the people waving flags at the rally today in CO Springs.

tru2tx on September 6, 2008 at 2:29 PM

It’s moronic non-stories like these that make the rest of the world laugh at America.

Are you so fu**ing short on issues to talk about in the campaign that you have to bring up irrelevant sh*t like this?

At the most, this is just a waste of campaign materials.

But you yahoos are turning it into some huge patriotism issue.

If McCain brings out “the garbage bags of flags” he’s just another jacka*s grandstander. He’s going to place unclaimed flags on graves? How fu*king crass and exploitive.

You Americans show such incredible disrespect for your flag it’s amazing this is even on the radar. You make the cheesiest, tackiest souvenirs imaginable with the stars and stripes all over them. You make bikinis, bandanas, coffee cups, dog clothes, lighters, etc etc – all with the precious stars and stripes on it. Talk about hypocrisy.

The whole thing is beyond stupid.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Typical from a marxist like Obama. Toss out the flags instead of handing them out to folks.

tx2654 on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

CNN covering it. DNC’s denying the story. Says The flags were going to be used again…blames the trash guys…no story here…nothing to seem move along.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Palin speaking on Fox now.

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Sfokli butffrel srgyuo?

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Ah, the voice of reason. Everybody shut up and change your mind. Dave, you aren’t an American?

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM

CNN covering it. DNC’s denying the story. Says The flags were going to be used again…blames the trash guys…no story here…nothing to seem move along.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Barry throws the garbagemen under the bus.

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

What are you so upset about? Want Obama to win?

bnelson44 on September 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM

What the Obamatron’s do not understand is how seamlessly the McCain/Palin campaign is being run. How the discovery of these tossed-out Flags was quietly handled until the right moment to use it and set up the mechanism to be there, in Colorado Springs, with an orderly distribution of these flags, and having Fox standing by to publicize all of it.

Now, compare that to the much highlighted and publicity- filled pre-announcement of Obama’s 3 a.m. internet announcement of Biden being selected that actually went out well after 4 a.m. with many not getting their promised email or text message until well after 9 a.m..

From a purely administrative and logistics aspect…which company would you hire to take care of your business?

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM

bnelson44 on September 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Did you notice in Dave’s rant he said YOU AMERICANS. HMMMMMMM!

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM

McCain used boy scouts to get the flags for him?

What an exploitive, manipulative a*s he is.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM

He works for the Canadian Broadcasting Company I hear.

Eh.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM –

Being a Canadian, you have no idea at all what that simple piece of cloth means to so many of us Americans.

Having been to Canada many times, I’ve seen the Maple Leaf used in all sorts of tacky ways, so get off that high horse of yours and return to the toddlers’ rocking horse.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Spoken like a true anarchist.

Can’t you get a point across without using the f-bomb?

Obviously you see the writing on the wall, dude. You’re going down and the only way to make yourself feel better is to rant like that.

Do you eat food with that mouth?

tru2tx on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Dave Rywall

If you are too narrow minded to be able to tell the difference between an American flag in a garbage bag and putting an American flag on a bikini (tacky, yet still a display of patriotism nonetheless)then perhaps you show yourself to be just as juvenile as having to highlight your weak argument with “fu** this and fu** that”. Here, try this link if you want to engage in that sort of debate. This thread is for the adults to talk.

CapitalistPig on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Sarah lookin’ extra-lovely today. Event is on FOX and CNN

SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM

CapitalistPig on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Guess we had the same idea. At least you gave him somewhere to go…

tru2tx on September 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM

The only problem with so much tv coverage is you hear the same lines over and over. I know they cannot write a new speech every day….

HawaiiLwyr on September 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM

He works for the Canadian Broadcasting Company I hear.

Eh.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM
————
If you’re going to try to look all clever you should at least get the name right. Your worldview remains tiny. Good luck with that.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM

McCain used boy scouts to get the flags for him?

What an exploitive, manipulative a*s he is.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Yes, McCain used the boy scouts in a covert operation to break into Invesco Field and steal the flags.

He paid them off with ice cream after they were successful in their mission.

Keep talking Dave ~ you just keep proving exactly how little you know about “us Americans”.

IrishGirl17 on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM

How can anyone expect them to deal with something as stupid as thousands of flags? Really! I mean, they were busy cutting down trees to make thousands of biodegradable hotel key-cards that will be thrown out after 1 use! You know, instead of using plastic ones that can be reused for decades before being recycled.
/sarcasm

Damiano on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM

First they will come for your guns.

Then they will come for your Bible.

Lastly they will come for your Flag.

I will use my guns to protect my Bible and my Flag, and will die if I must, wrapped in that Flag.

Yoop on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

I had no idea. Gosh, I adore it when people who don’t know me, can’t vote and haven’t a clue, chastise me. And he is always so serious, everything is the end of the world. Well thanks for the information because now I can care even less.

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Reghuted fpljioom hobgtd, hgdtjk?

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Having been to Canada many times, I’ve seen the Maple Leaf used in all sorts of tacky ways, so get off that high horse of yours and return to the toddlers’ rocking horse.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM
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We don’t worship the flag. Your country’s hypocritical treasuring of the flag remains hilarious. Keep making those bikinis and g strings with the stars and stripes on them.

—————-
putting an American flag on a bikini (tacky, yet still a display of patriotism nonetheless
—————-
Ahhh, right. So there are limits to how much respect you;ll give your flag. Sexualize it on a woman’s body and it’s okay. Hooray!

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Saw this on the news this morning. Those people really are clueless.

Hog Wild on September 6, 2008 at 2:42 PM

If you question my patriotism, you are a RACIST! – Obama

“This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage. Guerrilla campaigning. They will use these flags at their own event today in Colorado Springs with John McCain and Sarah Palin.”

We’ll, I guess I’m a RACIST!

(and a patriot!)

crash72 on September 6, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Being a Canadian, you have no idea at all what that simple piece of cloth means to so many of us Americans.

Having been to Canada many times, I’ve seen the Maple Leaf used in all sorts of tacky ways, so get off that high horse of yours and return to the toddlers’ rocking horse.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM

That reminds me of Canadian Norm MacDonald’s routine about the flag: The US flag is revered by Americans because it is so symbolic (stripes representing the 13 colonies and stars representing all the states). The Canadian flag, however, is just a big leaf…it almost invites incineration.

Nosferightu on September 6, 2008 at 2:43 PM

HawaiiLwyr on September 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM

It was the same with Reagan. They will throw some new stuff in but it is too soon.

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:43 PM

The DNC should have left explicit instructions as to how to dispose of the flags. They should have not waited until the maintenance guys noticed the flags being disposed of like common garbage.

The DNC can deny it all they want, but the buck stops with them.

newton on September 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Yes, McCain used the boy scouts in a covert operation to break into Invesco Field and steal the flags.

He paid them off with ice cream after they were successful in their mission.

Keep talking Dave ~ you just keep proving exactly how little you know about “us Americans”.

IrishGirl17 on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM
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Aww, are thing moving too fast for you? Sorry you can’t keep up. From Fox news:

————–
“Boy Scouts were sorting 84 bags of flags in Colorado Saturday morning, before a McCain supporter had veterans distribute them to the audience.

“We want to find good homes for these flags,” he said, adding that whatever flags remained would be placed at memorials throughout Colorado.”

————

Why does McCain have to announce publicly that he;s placing the rest of the flags on memorials throughout Colorado? Exploiting the dead to help his campaign. Now THAT’S patriotic. No, wait – sick.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM

You Americans.. – Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

We Americans planted our flag on the moon. Those of us who love our country love our flag.

You Canadians have done nothing of consequence in the history of the world but supply the Americans with first rate hockey players, second rate comedians and third rate news broadcasters.

Canada isn’t even a fart in the American hurricane. For all practical purposes you are a protectorate of the United States of America.

You are nothing. Nothing. Get used to it.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM

FOXNews just said the crowd was “about 11,000″. Sweet.

SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Is there nothing to fix in YOUR country? Please go try!

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:47 PM

McCain used boy scouts to get the flags for him? What an exploitive, manipulative a*s he is. – Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Sounds like the Cowpie Canuck is getting desperate.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 2:48 PM

You are nothing. Nothing. Get used to it.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM

They always have Dieppe.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM

So, you want to turn this into a rotten tomatoes throw against McCain…

Methinks you’re the sicko here.

At least he’s doing the RIGHT THING here. Unlike the DNC, who should have not waited until a week after their convention was over to remember there were flags to handle in the first place.

The DNC should have called the Boy Scouts… Oh wait… That’s right! They don’t like the Boy Scouts: they think of these kids as the KKK!

Or maybe, they should have called the local VFWs… Oh, wait… They don’t like the VFW! They only pretend to like them!

newton on September 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Why does McCain have to announce publicly that he;s placing the rest of the flags on memorials throughout Colorado? Exploiting the dead to help his campaign. Now THAT’S patriotic. No, wait – sick. – Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Pure desperation on your part. Pure schadenfreude on mine. Thanks, canuck. You never fail to deliver.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Sarah lookin’ extra-lovely today. Event is on FOX and CNN

SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM

This woman is like a drug. I cannot get enough.

eyesky on September 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Wet diapers observed all over the world, on ‘grown-ups’.

Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Guys, I think this troll is a member of the Canadian Human Rights Commission – the same thugs who want to shut Mark Steyn off!

Wait a second… Why isn’t he minding the business of his own darned country?!? Canada is a Leftist paradise… Why the heck is he even butting his stupid self around here?

newton on September 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Ahem….

On the day the hostages (in Iran) were seized, six American diplomats evaded capture and remained in hiding at the Swedish and Canadian embassies. In 1979, the Canadian Parliament held a secret session for the first time since World War II in order to pass special legislation allowing Canadian passports to be issued to some American citizens so that they could escape. Six American diplomats boarded a flight to Zürich, Switzerland, on January 28, 1980. Their escape and rescue from Iran by Canadian ambassador Ken Taylor has come to be known as the Canadian Caper.[38]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis#Canadian_Caper

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Country First

faraway on September 6, 2008 at 2:53 PM

We Americans planted our flag on the moon. Those of us who love our country love our flag.

You Canadians have done nothing of consequence in the history of the world but supply the Americans with first rate hockey players, second rate comedians and third rate news broadcasters.

Canada isn’t even a fart in the American hurricane. For all practical purposes you are a protectorate of the United States of America.

You are nothing. Nothing. Get used to it.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM
—————–
Your ignorance of my country is not surprising and neither is your disrespect. At least I know tiny-minded people like you will never amount to much, so at least the world can carry on knowing your existence is entirely unnoteworthy. If you had a shred of self-awareness, that would upset you.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:53 PM

They always have Dieppe.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM
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Ah, disrespect for the war dead. How incredibly ignorant of you.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:54 PM

McCain used boy scouts to get the flags for him?

Yes, McCain used the boy scouts in a covert operation to break into Invesco Field and steal the flags.

He paid them off with ice cream after they were successful in their mission.

Keep talking Dave ~ you just keep proving exactly how little you know about “us Americans”.

IrishGirl17 on September 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM
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Aww, are thing moving too fast for you? Sorry you can’t keep up. From Fox news:

No sweetie, apparently things are moving way too fast for you. But you keep trying to keep up with the rest of us here. We’ll get you to understand American sarcasm eventually.

Then again….I hardly think that you’re worth the effort.

IrishGirl17 on September 6, 2008 at 2:55 PM

And I have a small “world view”, after living in Europe as a civilian for over 10 years and learning two foreign languages from scratch.

Ok.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 2:55 PM

The whole thing is beyond stupid.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Hmmm got under your skin didn’t it.

petunia on September 6, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM –

How’s that Liberal Government in Ottawa doing these days?

Oh, yeah, it’s been replaced.

How’s free speech in Canada going these days?

Oh, yeah, your Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the right to political expression lies at the core of the guarantee of free expression and warrants a high degree of constitutional protection, there is nevertheless a danger that political advertising may manipulate or oppress the voter.”

And those commissions designed to assist Sharia in Canada? And those new “hate speech” laws.

Give up your sovereignty to not offend immigrants?

I’ve a good number of Candian friends, all voted Harper last time around, and a lot of decent Canadians are doing a great job in Afghanistan, so I won’t broadbrush Canada the way you seem to enjoy doing with America. But, you, sir, are the proper example of why the Conservatives in Canada elected Harper and why Conservatives in Canada will work like hell to keep your kind from the reins of power.

Sorta like us Americans being hell-bent to keep Obama and his ilk from gaining power here.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Sarah lookin’ extra-lovely today. Event is on FOX and CNN

SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM

This woman is like a drug. I cannot get enough.

eyesky on September 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM
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Ahh, so you like the VP candidate because he looks “extra-lovely”.
How politically astute of you both.

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

It sure got you riled up. Bwahaha! You’re Messiah is done and he was killed in no small part by his supporters. You know, people just like you. People who go to his rallies and throw the flags in the garbage on the way out the door. Average AMERICANS get a good look at your brethern about every 4 years and reject them completely. All of that rejection has made them very angry and more grotesque every election cycle. My hope is that you folks never smarten up and learn how to better hide who you truly are.

TheBigOldDog on September 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:53 PM

I would never disrespect your country, nor would I go to a blog about your election and stick my nose where it doesn’t belong. I believe that your people know what’s best for your country. So who is really being discourteous?

Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM

Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Just out of curiousity, Dave, why do you get your jollys posting on an American political website?

Why don’t you hang around your own country’s political chat rooms and pontificate to your fellow Canooks?

Not as interesting as “AMERICANS”?

Douchebag.

tru2tx on September 6, 2008 at 2:59 PM

It’s extremely likely that this was the fault of a disposal service hired to clean up after the convention, rather than the Democratic Party

Every single one of those flags was either dropped on the floor or stuffed directly into the trash by a DNC convention goer before any disposal service came along.

By definition those convention participants are the truest representatives of the Democrat party.

DarkCurrent on September 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Your ignorance of my country is not surprising and neither is your disrespect.

This from a canuck who pokes his pot-stirring troll nose into an American blog site, heaving rhetorical bombs left and right – mostly to the right. You opened the door the moment you uttered the words “You Americans…” I have heard those words before and every single time they were a preamble to yet another dreary anti-American screed.

I know much more about your country than you can possibly imagine, canuck. The difference is…I just don’t care.

Like I said…you are nothing.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Dave, it is OUR country and OUR Flag and OUR election.

Not yours.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM

The DNC should have left explicit instructions as to how to dispose of the flags. They should have not waited until the maintenance guys noticed the flags being disposed of like common garbage.

The DNC can deny it all they want, but the buck stops with them.

newton on September 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM

I’m sure that when a flag is something to be burned and spit upon they did not even consider that it was something of symbolic value beyond the cloth and stick…

It is a sad thing, the Democratic party.

petunia on September 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM

There’s nothing wrong with Canada that expelling DRywall won’t fix.
What a hoser, eh!

Vince on September 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Sorry Canadian, but I’m not impressed. Consider it their penance for coddling Vietnam War draft dodgers.

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM

I would never disrespect your country, nor would I go to a blog about your election and stick my nose where it doesn’t belong

That’s because you’d fall asleep reading about our elections. Here’s our Obama out on the hustings meeting the “hillbillies.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBvScvmoGyk

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM

I’ve read your comments here at HA and you always same like a decent fellow, this was not directed to you, my friend, but to the troll that shall go unnamed. I know about war dead. I was soul survivor from an ambush in Nam, over 100 “war” dead in one afternoon. I came out alone.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Vince on September 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM –

So long as they don’t expell him to the U.S..

Now, compare Dave with the recent Australian and British posters we have. A world of difference and deference apart.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Ahh, so you like the VP candidate because he looks “extra-lovely”. How politically astute of you both. – Dave Rywall on September 6, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Looks like the canuck is flustered. Not a fan of the ladies, eh Trebek?

ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Drywall’s falling apart – but there are probably more Drywallish (if not quite Drywall-level) a-holes in the US than there are Canadians in the world.

It may take Canada a couple of generations, if ever, to get over the harm its left-liberal governments and pseudo-intelligentsia have done to it, but there are a lot of great, solid people up there.

That said – given the DNC response, claiming that the flags were “stolen” – it will be interesting to see if this story does indeed go anywhere.

CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 3:07 PM

1GooDDaDDy on September 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM

No problem. I know the anti-Canadian sentiment is not being directed at me, but probably like you I never pass up a chance to defend my country.

CanadianGuy on September 6, 2008 at 3:07 PM

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