Guy who requested $740 million in earmarks on Palin: You can’t really be for change if you’re pro-earmark
posted at 3:58 pm on September 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Indeed. To truly represent change, you have to request earmarks for your wife’s employer.
I was hoping against hope that he’d come after her on this point. And now, my dream’s come true.
Obama then went point by point through education, tax policy, energy policy and health care telling voters why McCain’s version of change is not change like the kind he will bring.
Obama then opened up rare criticism on VP nominee Sarah Palin, “I know the governor of Alaska has been, you know, saying she is change. And that is great. She is a skillful politician. But when you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person. That is not change, come on. I mean, words mean something. You can’t just make stuff up. You can’t just make stuff up. We have a choice to make and the choice is clear.”
She’s not the “champion anti-earmark person,” Barry. McCain is. The ball having been placed on the tee, Team Maverick swings away:
Barack Obama has requested the equivalent of one million dollars in new pork barrel spending for every working day he’s been in the U.S Senate, while John McCain has never once asked for an earmark, and Governor Palin has vetoed hundreds of millions in government spending including killing the infamous “bridge to nowhere”. Just like so many other issues Barack Obama is all talk, has no record to back it up and isn’t ready to make change. — Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008
This makes two prominent examples of Palin’s own political liabilities leaving The One in no position to criticize. Serious exit question: Am I missing something or is he actually suggesting that opposing earmarks after initially taking them is more grievously offensive to Change than the pork parade he’s been running for his cronies and bundlers ? Because if he is, if he thinks opportunistically changing one’s mind about earmarks for political gain is some kind of cardinal sin, then this critique is even more gloriously nuanced than we thought.
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Grasping at straws, as they have been for a week.
OneGyT on September 6, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Goodness Gracious!
I LOVE this campaign season!
Keep talking Barry!
originalpechanga on September 6, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Sarah Palin has thrown Obama completely off of his game. This is fun to watch.
rsrobinson on September 6, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Karl Rove – YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!
(He knew this was going to happen when he told Sarah Palin to talk about the Bridge to Nowhere)
HawaiiLwyr on September 6, 2008 at 4:04 PM
The wheels on the bus are coming off,
Coming off, coming off…
tgibson1962 on September 6, 2008 at 4:05 PM
They just dont get it. They see it as “Well Obama went through the fire so he is on firm ground now”
No Obama HASNT gone through ANY fire. He has ducked and dodged everything. He still has too many unanswered questions to be sitting around trying to throwing out questions.
Its the “WE WILL NOT BE SWIFTBOATED DAMN IT” meme. Trouble is they just dont know how flawed a candidate Obama is. We on the right have been critical of things McCain has done. We dont idol worship him.
The Left cant see Obama’s flaws through all the “Light” he brings to them.
William Amos on September 6, 2008 at 4:05 PM
He should be aiming for McCain, not Palin. But like a poor marksman, he keeps missing the target.
No matter. The Big Mo belongs to the GOP for the moment, and I suspect that they will benefit from the twin propulsion units of MSM backlash and the freshness that is Palinmania.
Dr Tom Colburn of Oklahoma would make for a great Fiscal Czar in a McCain/Palin administration, by the way. He hasn’t ask for any earmarks as well. We Sooners are proud of him! :D
itzWicks on September 6, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Barry should get back to healing the planet and reversing global warming. After all, this isn”t just ah ahhhh ah tree-hugging sprout-eating liberal issue.
John Doe on September 6, 2008 at 4:06 PM
“yep, candidate tin ear. worst case i evah seen!”
:-)
:-)
Buckaroo on September 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM
when the candidate for potus is arguing about the other party’s candidate for veep, it means he has lost.
period.
it’s over.
reliapundit on September 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Obama needs to stop giving his long-winded speeches, smile pretty and randomly yell “hope!!!” and “Change!!!!” Any other time he talks, he sounds like a newbie. Ever since Sarah Palin joined the race, he sounds whiny and desperate.
That ain’t no way to win a Presidency….
mjk on September 6, 2008 at 4:09 PM
test
faraway on September 6, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Obviously Obama does not understand the different roles a politician plays.
A mayor has much different responsibilities then a Gov. A mayor tries to obtain more for her city from the state. It is up to the Gov. and Leg. to budget that.
Obama does not understand the simplest of ideas…however he did support this mayor.
Here is his support.
Obama, if this is the type of mayor you support, we don’t want your support.
right2bright on September 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I think trying to explain exactly what he is thinking is a waste of time. He’s just a fundamentally dishonest person who has no problem lying to get ahead. Sounds awfully similar to the last successful candidate the Democrats put forward.
TheNolan on September 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM
That’s because she’s just being herself and he IS playing a game. And BTW Barry, she’s just running for VP, not POTUS.
It’s amazing that the Dhimmicrats would allow this guy who has NO RECORD of doing anything to be their standard bearer. Hillary would have probably beaten McCain had she been on the top or bottom of the ticket. He fears strong women I guess. Heh, heh, heh.
Mojave Mark on September 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Rare? All Obama talks about is Palin; that’s why it’s so funny.
lorien1973 on September 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Just what has he learned since being President?
cyclosarin on September 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Please, unleash MICHELLE OBAMA on Sarah Palin. Please, Obama. I beg you.
SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Let us not forget that a large earmark request was for his wife’s place of work…….
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!!!!
azcop on September 6, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Testes – that which the Dems lack
ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 4:13 PM
This guy reminds me of Homer Simpson singing “I am so smart, S-M-R-T…..D’OH!
Patrick S on September 6, 2008 at 4:13 PM
It seems to me that McCain gives Palin some “cover” for her switch, making it appear (or become) more authentic than otherwise.
If McCain had switched from pro-earmark to anti-earmark, then Obama might be able to score points or at least mitigate the harm done by being such a profligate user of these measures himself.
The public is disgusted with this type of spending unless, of course, it’s their own representative (full discloser: my Republican congressman is the leader in the GOP on earmarks; we’ve received lots of goodies).
Advantage McCain. Why Obama is taking this course mystifies me unless it’s another example of him thinking that he can talk people (Ahmadinejad or the electorate) into believing anything.
SteveMG on September 6, 2008 at 4:13 PM
The Presidential candidate is still campaigning against her…this is unbelievably wonderful.
You can almost hear the conflicting strategy being hastily tossed around by his army of 300 advisors. They are in disarray.
Topsecretk9 on September 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Does no good unless the MSM calls him out on it. His devotees are ignorant.
ctmom on September 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Can you explain this fantasy to a Yankee, Southern?
Why’s it got you all excited?
alphie on September 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
After watching the first segment of O’Reilly’s interview with Obama, I’m predicting that it will be useless.
That said, Obama’s $1M earmark to his wife’s salary a year after it increased her salary from $122K in 2004 to $317K in 2005 demands not merely questions but an investigation. Common sense leads to the conclusion that Obama’s earmark was a wrongful quid pro quo. I hope McCain investigates him.
BuckeyeSam on September 6, 2008 at 4:16 PM
rsrobinson on September 6, 2008 at 4:03 PM –
Thrown Obama off his game?
Have you seen the various spots on TV today, showing Obama at his rallies?
Off his game?
Since the Den Convention Obama has hasn’t had game.
Contrast the two Presidential candidates.
One is optimistic, talks upliftingly about America, and America’s promise.
The other one is a downer lately…complaining, not sure of himself, you can tell that in the inflection and strained phrases and theatrics.
One Vice presidential candidate has America all over, it shines, it comes through, it inspires, it resonates.
The other VP candidate…wait a minute, has anyone seen the other VP candidate recently?
Anyway, back to the point…
Now, if you were hiring someone to work for you…which one of these candidates would you want on your team?
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 4:17 PM
I just wanna seem some chickens roosting, alphie pooh.
SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Obama throwing himself under the bus in 5…4…3…2…
My kitty says:
Et tu Brute on September 6, 2008 at 4:20 PM
This is sort of a secondary point but,
He’s falling into the same trap Botch McWaffleson blundered into four years ago. He’s on the defensive and he’s trying to do the “pint by point” thing on the nuances of each and every talking point he’s supposed to stick to. Yawn. So much for new and exciting.
forest on September 6, 2008 at 4:20 PM
After the expensive makeover, the huge re-introduction and US Weekly cover, and the primetime speaking part at the DNCC, David Axelrod has convinced Obama to work out a deal with Putin to have her involuntarily admitted into the Russian witness protection program.
BuckeyeSam on September 6, 2008 at 4:21 PM
The more interesting question, AP, is why is Obama going after Palin? Isn’t that Biden’s job?
It seems to me that a campaign uses its big gun only if it’s shooting at a target that they’re worried about.
It’s clear that the Obama campaign still hasn’t figured out how to respond to Palin. But they’re worried, that’s for sure.
SteveMG on September 6, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Hey at least he called her the governor of Alaska. To bad everything else he has said is so stupid.
Gracelynn on September 6, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Hell, Biden seems to think HE’s the presidential candidate, and damned if he’ll look less than presidential.
Patrick S on September 6, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Funny cover on McCain and Palin at Weekly Standard.
http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/534rlysq.asp
BuckeyeSam on September 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM
SteveMG on September 6, 2008 at 4:21 PM –
Isn’t it clear? Obama is running against Palin. Doesn’t have the experience to run against McCain. Biden is running against…ummm…anyone seen “old Joe” lately?
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM
That’s not true! The wheels are just not touching the ground anymore from all the people he has tossed under the bus.
Corsair on September 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Biden is in Delaware this weekend as he has no scheduled appearances. He has already made so many gaffes. Plugs mike has been unplugged! LMAO
txdoc on September 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
He is not getting publicity because he says nice things about Sarah and acknowledges the sexism. Joe is too honest for the Obama ticket, frankly. He is not going to be ‘on message’ all the time consequently.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Because Michelle will be…Michelle. And that is all we want her to be.
ManlyRash on September 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
The audacity of doublespeak.
flipflop on September 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
McCain’s people gotta be absolutely giddy over this. Talk about off his game! This is exactly where they want him to be. “But, but, um, I’m changier!”
forest on September 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
That’s it O!, you’re already in electoral quicksand owing to the public’s growing recognition of the hypocritical unfairness MSM’s rapid smear force; and you’re flailin’ about wildly, son…
As long as you do that you, and your electoral numbers, will continue to sink!
RocketmanBob on September 6, 2008 at 4:30 PM
She’s been quarantined.
lodge on September 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM –
Think Biden might be at home re-thinking his life’s choices right about now?
Naw..forget that…re-thinking presupposes one has actually thought in the first place.
Never mind.
coldwarrior on September 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
You know, Obama just opened up and extra added attack on himself here too, not just that he’s earmark king…but Palin has the best response…she can say that she was a first in favor of the bridge to nowhere, but changed her mind for whatever reason…
“You see, unlike our oppenent, I’m not afraid to change my mind for the better, afraid to change when I might have had it wrong”
This highlights Obama’s having not supprted the surge and afraid to admit he was wrong
AND
Allows McCain to actually change on some of the issues that he would seem flip-floppy now
Drilling in Anwr
Tougher on Immigration
etc.
Topsecretk9 on September 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Check this out…
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/09/04/our-operating-budget-was-not-reduced-director-of-teen-center/
ninjapirate on September 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Obama, Biden’s Son Linked by Earmarks is that change?
Barack Obama: I trusted Rezko, Senator says friend raised more money than previously known Is that Change?
Chakra Hammer on September 6, 2008 at 4:33 PM
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/09/04/our-operating-budget-was-not-reduced-director-of-teen-center/
ninjapirate on September 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Obama and his Rezko ties Obama’s slumlord friend, is that Change?
How could a “Community Organizer” be friends with a slumlord?
Chakra Hammer on September 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I so want to see the internal polls for the BO camp. They must be devastating with the demeanor he had during press questioning, today.
Editor on September 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Because Michelle O can be counted on to say something monumentally out of touch with most Americans, something she has frequently done until they put her in a bubble, or maybe they just put a muzzle on her.
Hog Wild on September 6, 2008 at 4:37 PM
the wheels on the bus “used” to go round and round…now it is stuck in the mud with no idea where to go….
Darn McCain has me trumped on every subject I bring up…..lol
SDarchitect on September 6, 2008 at 4:37 PM
A good pirate you are.
Patrick S on September 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Lt. Obama broke radio silence and now Admiral McCain has him located and under attack.
pedestrian on September 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Barack Obama: “As Charlie Brown’s teacher once said, ‘Waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa’ “…
Patrick S on September 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM
This, coming from Obama, should be Quote of this Century.
It’s too much fun to see the lefties wet their diapers. For 19 months the media gave them a total break. Now, Palin has only 2 months to lose some of her varnish, and no one’s listening, least of all her.
She’s not affected by mickeymice and nats.
They must be extremely perturbed at their pill getting back at them. It’s schadenfreudig, to say the least.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Semi-OT: Read between the lines of the just-released Gallup tracking poll report at http://www.gallup.com/poll/110047/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Shrinks-Points.aspx
Especially, the elliptical “This includes a strong night for McCain in Friday’s interviewing, the first full night of interviewing following his acceptance speech” and “[t]he test for McCain will be whether he can do more than return the race to the absolute tie seen at the beginning of the convention period, and actually lead Obama by a significant margin for the first time since late April/early May.”
Fingers crossed this means what I think it means – that if Hero/Hottie does anywhere near as well against Zero/Who? the next couple of days as on Fri, by Monday or Tuesday this race will upside down from where it’s been all year to this point. The Evans-Novak report also spoke about this “crushing” (to Democrats) possibility – apparently virtually an assumption among insiders and pros. Again, going out on a speculative limb, if the massive amounts of internal polling conducted by campaigns are anything like this – desperate and out-of-control actions and statements on the way to some kind of shake-up or major message shift – should not be surprising.
Hope I’m not setting myself up for disappointment – so, against a jinx, I’ll just add that, if McCain’s within the margin of error, that’s better than most people thought possible.
CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Alas, she’s not affected by gnats.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM
From “Why They Hate Her” by Jeffrey Bell:
Palin’s life story undermines the central narrative of the left that survives after the failure of communism and socialism. The left has no choice but to go nuts!
Obama has to attack Palin – he cannot help himself.
Right_of_Attila on September 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Obviously we see the contradictions in the arguments Obama and his campaign have made, and we can separate fact from fiction. However, take a look at the faces of TheOne’s disciples and guess how many of the liberal thinkers understand. They’re a bunch of uneducated rednecks who only need the seed planted and they’ll believe everything else he creates.
.
I always hate going to the polling centers for voting. It’s just incredibly scary knowing these people are allowed to vote and dictate our fate.
stacman on September 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
LOL!!!!
4shoes on September 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
And muzzled and tranquilized. However, why should she have anything to do with S. Palin? She’s not running for anything, yet.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 4:49 PM
The bus’ breaks are screeching. The noise is unbearable.
Entelechy on September 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
+1 Would love to see a mash-up!
CK MacLeod on September 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Send your friends every legitimate Rezko, Ayers, Socialist links that you can. Obama and Michelle must be stopped.
marklmail on September 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Lobbyists! Obama doesn’t employ lobbyist!
…unless you count Howard Gutman, who is also apparently immune to Obama’s promise to fire anyone involved with slandering mothers and children.
http://perfunction.typepad.com/perfunction/2008/09/waiting-for-gut.html
Damiano on September 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM
The young’uns would (erroneously) call it “irony”…
I LOVE the smell of Democratic hypocrisy in the morning….
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Lockstein13 on September 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Buck up. FiveThirtyEight.com (an Obama-leaning site that uses algorithms to project winners), says McCain looks to have a 4+ night Friday night. That’ll put him barely ahead. If it’s higher it’ll be fantastic.
SouthernGent on September 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Obama = KHAAAN!
Karl on September 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
You should see the ugly column Ellen Goodman wrote. I swear it is worse then when they go after W. I guess the have to squeeze a lot of hate in before November.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Also, anyone who wants to look at the bottom part of the chart of the RCP average will note the wheels started coming off in late June. The World Tour and the Convention briefly interrupted this trend, which seems set to resume based on the current tracking polls.
Karl on September 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM
not to be a downer but since this thread is about “Barack and Change”….
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/06/obama-i-couldnt-take-your-guns-even-if-i-wanted-to/#comment-1391284
I posted my first series of other people’s posts stories and small analysis…
“be gentle with me”.
thanks
sven10077 on September 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM
He’s coming apart. Just gibberish.
Cicero43 on September 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
and maybe we should start pushing the media to ask why Barry doctors the transcripts or THEY do….?
sven10077 on September 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Man is this guy smarterer or what?
jukin on September 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM
My compliments on this terrific compilation. I had missed some of the linked sources and I’m just chuckling away at the waves of anxiety that seem to be hitting the BO camp.
SayWhat on September 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I thought she was “inexperienced”.
TooTall on September 6, 2008 at 5:04 PM
He should change his name to Barack Hypocrite Obama. He would not even have to buy new silver, he could keep the same initials.
Terrye on September 6, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Even if 40 million people saw McCain’s speech, that’s only a fraction of the electorate. It takes a few days for word of mouth to spread to family, friends and co-workers.
Although the base was excited about Palin immediately, all the slime that spewed out of the media cancelled that out among independents. As the full story emerges on each of the rumors, it will come back to haunt the MSM and the Rocky/Bullwinkle ticket.
pedestrian on September 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I guess the have to squeeze a lot of hate in before November.
Cindy Munford on September 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Thats for sure,
If Sarah Palin keeps rosy amidst these communist machine gun charges she will prove that people of the US respond eventually to brighter pictures.
She isnt a lawyer, she has a tight family with no different challenges than anybody else,
And they appear to be very happy.
Jon McCain seems to enjoy this person because he looks energised,
Lastly, Obama has lost some shine.
Its the optimism that many are reacting to with Sarah,
shes closer to any of us , than any of the other candidates ( including McCain ) and most of the past.
Sonosam on September 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Someone suggested a fiscal czar for McCain, if it is not going to be Phil Graham – I hope it is Thomas Sowell. He’d be perfect match for McCain.
Spread the word!
kybowexar on September 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Dr Walter Williams would be another,
nice thought.
Sonosam on September 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Sonosam, I thought of him as well. I would also love to hear either man’s response when the media accuses McCain of tokenism.
kybowexar on September 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Rumor has it that David Axelrod is loosing his hair, and on antacids. Hope it wasn’t anything Governor Palin said.
BTW Barry; since “words have meaning”, have you fired Gutman yet? Or was your statment about “firing” one of those “nuance” Democratic statements that means nothing?
GarandFan on September 6, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Put on a national stage to speak directly to the American public (ala Sarah Palin), Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell would dispel any such idiot claims in a heartbeat.
Patrick S on September 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM
This has been said before, but I think if it’s Palin versus Obama he loses. I can’t believe he keeps stepping in it like this. First, he mocks here mayoral stint, and she fires broadsides at him in front of millions Wednesday night, making him look like a buffoon. Now this…whatever she wanted for Wasilla is dwarfed by what she cut from AK’s budget, and that is further dwarfed by what HE has requested, even funneling money to his wife’s employer.
This dude is nothing but your typical Chicago politician, and I hope Palin’s presence brings that out of him.
changer1701 on September 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM
“You once dipped your toe into the cesspool in which I swim daily!” Strong argument there, Bare.
Bud Norton on September 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Obama Gets Porked.
By himself.
(A T-shirt in embryo.)
profitsbeard on September 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM
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Good one!!
Deanna on September 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Another benefit of either Williams or Sowell – people would not only have a chance to understand what is going on with the Economy, but start to care what the Secretary of the Treasure (or whatever post either had) had to say.
Williams would be more sedate and polite, but I think Sowell would fit in more with McCain. Sowell smiles nicely and speaks very pleasantly, but he takes no prisoners.
kybowexar on September 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM
This man has trouble forming a cohesive sentence. Harvard should place a gag order on him.
bloggless on September 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM
What a douche.
I said everything else I needed to say in the Headlines thread.
Now I’m just venting.
SuperCool on September 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Slumlords for Obama!
Chakra Hammer on September 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM
I think Obama and crew are more than just nervous, they’re having an anxiety attack. It’s hard to concentrate when you have a sword suspended over your head…in this case it’s named the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
Obama has still not used his chairmanship of the CAC to prove his executive experience. Hmmm…wonder why that is? LOL
Deanna on September 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Barry is losing his zest.
Is it because the Democrats are The NO ENERGY Party?
profitsbeard on September 6, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Obama is simply not very bright. Apparently the madrassah he attended didn’t teach the parable about the mote in one’s eye. Predictably, he doesn’t seem to have picked it up later on at Harvard either.
He either has to be the least self-aware person on the planet or he is laughing his ass off that his supporters actually believe the crap he makes up. I know I am.
Ben Franklen on September 6, 2008 at 5:42 PM
NOT to drag this thread through religion, but the Bible does say Satan appears as an angel of light and appears like a sheep in wolves clothing. Actually that can apply to Liberals in general.
Mr_Magoo on September 6, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Earmarks are what is wrong with Washington, seems like McCain understands that. I have yet to hear him say he will abolish earmarks … he had said he will veto pork, but why not propose that earmarks be abolished and all spending request go on the record for recorded votes.
Energy “All the Above” and earmark reform, the winning duo.
tarpon on September 6, 2008 at 5:52 PM
True. Biden should be countering Palin and Obama – McCain. Barry can’t let go though. He’s too thin skinned and his advisors have been telling him to get tougher (or so I’ve read). Meanwhile Team McCain keeps baiting him through the Lipsticked Pitbull aka Caribou Barbie.
Classic. I suspect Rove.
Mr_Magoo on September 6, 2008 at 5:53 PM
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