And no, she’s not a religious extremist, either

posted at 11:00 am on September 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

At least this smear didn’t have anything to do with Sarah Palin’s gender, but it also didn’t have anything to do with the truth, either.  Critics have pointed to Palin’s Pentacostal religion as evidence of religious extremism, criticizing the practices of their church, as our NARN producer Mathew Reynolds noted on Thursday.  The Miami Herald reported on Palin’s religious spookiness:

Sarah Palin often identifies herself simply as Christian.

Yet John McCain’s running mate has deep roots in Pentecostalism, a spirit-filled Christian tradition that is one of the fastest growing in the world. It’s often derided by outsiders and Bible-believers alike.

Palin was baptized Roman Catholic as a newborn. She was then baptized in a Pentecostal Assemblies of God church as a teen and attended that church until six years ago, when she and her family adopted a different home church, an independent evangelical church.

The New York Times debunks that particular myth today in a look at Palin and the role religion plays in her life.  Deep into the article, readers find this factoid that the Miami Herald somehow missed:

One of the musical directors at the church, Adele Morgan, who has known Ms. Palin since the third grade, said the Palins moved to the nondenominational Wasilla Bible Church in 2002, in part because its ministry is less “extreme” than Pentecostal churches like the Assemblies of God, which practice speaking in tongues and miraculous healings.

“A lot of churches are about music and media and having a big profile,” Ms. Morgan said. “We are against that. That is why it is so attractive to politicians because they can just sit there and be safe.”

“We’ve gotten a lot of their people when the other churches get too extreme,” Ms. Morgan continued. However, she added, “If you lift your hands when we’re singing, we’re not going to shoot you down.”

So much for the Palin-as-religious-extremist theme.  Even if one was inclined to think of Pentacostalists in such terms — and I’d recommend Matt’s post for an exploration of why it’s not extremism but merely enthusiastic expression — Palin clearly wanted a quieter form of worship.  The Herald didn’t make the significance of their move clear, and wanted to leave the impression that Palin’s religious beliefs somehow made her part of a fringe movement.

Still waiting for the Palin-as-extraterrestrial story to appear on MS-NBC ….

Update: Our first comment on this post points out something remarkable about the national media.  How long did it take for them to investigate the political radicalism at Trinity United Church of Christ and Jeremiah Wright?  15 months.  How long did it take for them to start with Palin and her religious beliefs?  Less than a week.

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(Biblical tongues are human languages, and are always spoken to humans who understand and TRANSLATE them for others to understand)

this is such BS. you cannot point to a verse that states tongues are human languages. tongues and the interpreation are given from God, the interpretation is not a translation of what is spoken, its a revelation from God.

right4life on September 7, 2008 at 9:14 AM

why don’t you try reading what the bible ACTUALLY says, instead of trying to write your own.

right4life on September 7, 2008 at 9:15 AM

This is such BS.

right4life on September 7, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Not interested in the swearing, thanks (Colossians 3:8).

You cannot point to a verse that states tongues are human languages.

Yes, I can. But, really, you’re starting to scare me now…lol… you better think real hard about what you’re saying, okay. Tongues means languages. One of the definitions of tongues is:

noun: a human written or spoken language used by a community; opposed to e.g. a computer language

Not only that, but the word “tongue” only has two meanings in the Bible:

1. THE TONGUE, a member of the body, the organ of speech;
2. A TONGUE, i.e. the LANGUAGE used by a particular people in distinction from that of other nations.

Here are some examples.

“And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and COOL MY TONGUE; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:24

And the second meaning:

“And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again BEFORE MANY PEOPLES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES, and kings.” Revelation 10:11

Other examples:

“TONGUE of the wise…” Proverbs 15:2

“…a lying TONGUE” Proverbs 12:19

“…I will gather all nations and TONGUES” Isaiah 66:18

There are no other meanings. The word ALWAYS means either:

1. The literal tongue in the body, the organ of speech; or
2. A specific language spoken by a particular group of people.

Now read what happened on the day of Pentecost. Acts chapter 2 makes it clear that the apostles were speaking in human languages (Acts 2:6-11).

“And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues (languages), as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded (confused), because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues (languages) the wonderful works of God.” Acts 2:6-11

SUMMARY: These verses show tongues are human languages. Furthermore, the word “tongue” only has two meanings in the Bible: a member of the body, AND specific languages spoken by a particular group of people. I hope that helps.

apacalyps on September 7, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Why don’t you try reading what the Bible ACTUALLY says, instead of trying to write your own.

right4life on September 7, 2008 at 9:15 AM

Don’t play childish games with me.

apacalyps on September 7, 2008 at 7:00 PM

I Thank God for the gift of tongues, and it is truly a gift, and not something I do on my own.

right4life on September 6, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Unless you have an interpretor translating what you’re saying, and unless you’re speaking in a human language, you are a barbarian (1 Corinthians 14:11). Quite possibly being led by a demonic spirit.

“So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.” I Corinthians 14:9

If you’re mumbling or muttering unintelligible gibberish you DON’T have a gift from God, you have a GIFT FROM SATAN!!

apacalyps on September 7, 2008 at 7:15 PM