Video: Palin hammers Obama over the surge in Wisconsin
posted at 2:00 pm on September 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Six and a half minutes of her from today’s stop in Cedarburg, followed by Maverick asking around the seven-minute mark if she isn’t, er, “the most marvelous running mate in the history of this nation.” The shot at Obama comes up front, swinging at a softball tossed yesterday by The One when he stupidly insisted that nobody anticipated the success of the surge. Meanwhile, Gallup’s three-day tracking poll sees a three-point bump for Maverick — and only one of those three days came after Palin’s speech. How much has the CW shifted? Enough that the same two Politico reporters who accused him of being desperate for picking her this weekend are now analyzing how she’s changed the race. Note especially the section on how McCain’s been liberated; like I’ve been saying, Palin isn’t a ploy to the middle, she’s a ploy to anchor the base so that Maverick himself can go after the middle. Case in point.
So suddenly has the momentum shifted that TPM claims Team Barry’s toying with the idea of abandoning its “ignore Palin” strategy and going after McCain over the fact that … Palin’s more gosh-darned popular than he is. Mind you, they were pushing the Eagleton meme two days ago; now, post-speech, they’re ready to argue that the ticket should be flipped. I can’t remotely fathom why they’d want to boost Palin’s credibility by emphasizing the fact of her appeal, unless they’re going for some sort of half-assed “celebrity” meme of their own vis-a-vis McCain. The problem is, the celebrity thing only works against Obama because he’s inexperienced; it’s the fact that people are so excited about a lightweight, not the fact that people are excited at all, that makes him seem ridiculous in those spots. If the Dems try it to McCain, it’s going to come off either like they’re congratulating him for finding such a killer running mate or as a backfiring commentary on why politicians with thin records really don’t deserve such adulation. Cross those fingers.
Exit question: Does the left really want to put its chips on comparing Sarah Palin to Pontius Pilate?
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If no one thought the surge would succeed why did we do it?
Obama really has no clue what is happening in the war does he.
petunia on September 5, 2008 at 2:29 PM
For all those starting to coach Sarah on what she should say, do, move her hands, what clothes to wear, and so on…
Let Sarah be Sarah.
(he said nicely)
Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Oh look… someone from the 26%…
CC
CapedConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Hahahah, nice :)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:30 PM
So Obama = Christ? Yeah, keep going with that one, guys. It’s working out well for you.
Matticus Finch on September 5, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Conventional wisdom.
Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 2:30 PM
We are at war in Wisconsin…against the Madistan ‘Rat Machine.
Seriously, it was a nice first appearance. Logistics could have been a bit better; much of the overflow crowd was relegated to stage right with no real sight of the stage, but they’re the ones that got to meet and greet McCain and Palin.
steveegg on September 5, 2008 at 2:30 PM
For a moment I thought he was going to mention foreign aid.
The voice in my head says:
Hey, get your hands of off our wallet!
MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
I could listen to her all day, even if most of that day is taken up with John McCain praise.
Karol on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Jaysus…the Baracky campaign is sinking faster than the Titanic.
Only gross negligence and stupidity could account for it, then again, we are talking about the DFL.
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
i have a great idea….
the mccain camp should plant a reporter to ask her a question like….who is the president of uzbekistan?
she will answer it correctly, while the media film it. it will be all over the news showing how she nailed it. someone is bound to ask her something like that. might as well be a plant.
dirty i know. but thats politics. im very machiavellian.
venicesurfer on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
The Lipstick Libs-Be-Gone!
max1 on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
With the utmost respect for the WW II vets, my battle image of McCain and Palin are the Allies with the beaches secured at Normandy and headed for Paris and on to Berlin–without the frolick-and-detour of Operation Market Garden.
Where’s my soundtrack from the movie Patton?
BuckeyeSam on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Motion seconded,
motion carried…
…sound of gavel banging.
Bullwinkle Obama it is!!!
petunia on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
I can now pull the (R) lever without holding my nose,..for no other reason than to hope she gets 8 years of solid VP experience and then runs for POTUS.
Alden Pyle on September 5, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Just an aside…
Does anyone remember in the movie ‘Fargo’ when the guy is out scraping his car windows off after his father in law stole his big land deal?? His goes kind of beserk with the ice scraper and pretty much throws a hissy fit??
I just get a mental picture of Keith Oblerman doing that same time every time Palin give a speech….
HEH!!!
BigWyo on September 5, 2008 at 2:32 PM
<blockquoteI LOVE Sarah, but they need to coach her not to look like she’s tracing the words she’s reading with her finger. Maybe I’m mistaken, it just looked that way a couple of times. Yes, yes, I know they ALL read scripts -and Obama is never without his teleprompter – which is why he’s always “looking up.” Of course, that may just be his perpetual nose in the air pose too.
Sugar Land on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Good observation. MSM will use that against her. Also they need to get off the Mccain POW story. She needs to be talking to the people about what her and MCcain are going to do help people in their everyday lives. What is the Change?
jamc1316 on September 5, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Kos posts the initial meme — in this case, “Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor” — attributing it to “a reader.”
Jim Treacher fired back: “So was Don Corleone”.
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001534.html
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Even though Cedarburg is north of Milwaukee, perhaps the reference is to northern Milwaukee.
geckomon on September 5, 2008 at 2:33 PM
LOL….Monty weeps as Sarah sends all that Alaskan oil to 3rd Army.
Limerick on September 5, 2008 at 2:34 PM
I just get a mental picture of Keith Oblerman doing that same time every time Palin give a speech….
Olberman? How about Baracky?
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Hence my new tag for him…
Don Vito Obamb’leone
Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Would someone do an artistic picture of a pit bull with lipstick on it? I would love to post it. Any artist, etc., etc Maybe with a hockey puck in it’s mouth? A hockey stick by it’s side, whatever.
Bambi on September 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM
I came within a hair of accepting a position with Blue Cross in Madison. Thankfully, something better came along before I was forced to make up my mind.
MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM
If the Dems want to run the whole Pilate thing then why don’t they actually analyze the situation.
Pontius Pilate sentenced an innocent man to death because his accusers stated that he had subverted the Jewish community. Pilate refused to uphold the standards of the office and cowardly abstained from voting on the matter.
He knowingly sentenced an innocent man to death for political expediency to appease a minority voice (but a loud one) within society.
I haven’t seen McCain do the wrong thing for political expediency. I’ve seen Obama do it multiple times.
Pilate threw a stranger under the bus. Obama has thrown most of his best friends.
darclon on September 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM
The celebrity meme only works against Obama because he cast himself as the messiah and the media hagiography was so extreme. Palin’s been bashed and bashed by the media and hasn’t designed her own VP seal, spoken in Germany or requested a stadium for her nomination speech.
obladioblada on September 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Cheese Whiz?
upinak on September 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Olby: So Mrs. Palin, who is the president of uzbekistan?
Gov. Palin: Islom Karimov. Who is the prime minister?
Olby: Uh, ahhhhhh, uh. Back to the countdown.
AverageJoe on September 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Capone/Biden ‘08-Change the Nation Can Do Without!
sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Where’s my soundtrack from the movie Patton?
BuckeyeSam on September 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Love this theme.
I see the charge against Beersheba by the Australian light horse in “The Lighthorsemen” (sadly not on DVD) with conservatives as the Aussies.
Conversely, the battle of Isandlwhana from “Zulu Dawn” with the haughty “we can’t be beat, we’re far superior” British as the libs.
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Indeed, plus how can they have it both ways?
She’s too new, but you can’t be entused and like her?
But Mr. Newsie you were “leg-tingling” since 2004 over Barry?
Back to you Keef!
sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM
That would be no joke. For the hell I give Madison, it’s a remarkably safe place. Certain parts of Milwaukee, though…I just don’t go to. Not until they legalize concealed carry.
MadisonConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM
“It’s over! It’s over! It’s over for the special interests!”
Does that include the Amnesty special interest?
jaime on September 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Another thought on Bullwinkle Moose:
We have a CD of kids Moose Songs…. We got it at Wisconsin Dells… Anyway one song is, “I Am a Very Handsome Moose… That would be a good Obama theme song. He has the ears for it!
Oh never mind! I just remember another song is, There’s a Chocolate Moose on the Loose…. that wouldn’t do at all. Gotta be more careful with that…
petunia on September 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Vicki McKenna makes it fun. ;)
MadisonConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM
McCain and Palin look like they are having fun.
Obama on the hand has been looking like his mom told him he had to eat his brocolli before he could have any desert lately.
The voice in my head says:
MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Obama sure has a surge of lapses in judgment.
Today Obama was saying dams can store wind energy, how no one knows — dams can then produce the power when needed. Well they pump water up the dam at night to get the power out the next day. The pumping uses the excess power from the water they pump back over the dam. But sadly, dams can only deliver what power they were designed for, no more. You want more, design a new dam. Who knew, Obama does not know what he is talking about.
tarpon on September 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Everyone knows we want their cheese. I’ll start the chant…”NO BLOOD FOR CHEESE…NO BLOOD FOR CHEESE…EVERYBODY NOW…NO BLOOD FOR CHEESE!”
sdd on September 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Well, he does have a nice rack on him.
carbon_footprint on September 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Notice how Zero has layed off the hair color. Gravitas and all that.
Limerick on September 5, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Don Vito Obamb’leone
Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 2:34 PM
HAHA! And now I will steal from you as I stole from Sven and use this great nickname on other blogs.
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Thank you, bob.
jaime on September 5, 2008 at 2:42 PM
OH GOOD GOD
My eyes! Aaaaaaaaarghhh!!!
*retch*
Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:42 PM
All in good time. This is how campaigns always go. You have to do some big rallies right away to capitalize on the momentum from the convention. Then you settle into a pattern of public appearances and press announcements where you flesh out your policy agenda and perhaps trot out your advisors so people get a look at your prospective team.
This campaign has been completely retooled on the fly in the last 10 days. As the underdog with the later convention, McCain got to watch and see the openings that Obama left him, and he moved to fill them. These include:
– women (obviously)
– blue collar workers
– small town voters
– evangelicals (I think they expected more of an overt play for them by Obama but it didn’t happen)
– the corruption issue (Obama did not mention it once, nor did any of the other speakers at the DNC)
– the “change the culture of Washington” issue, which Obama booted with his pick of Joe Biden
McCain is making a judgment that the 2006 elections were decided largely on the corruption/partisan cuture of Washington, and to the extent they were about the war in Iraq, that is to his benefit now because of the success of the surge.
This week has been all about laying out his themes, and then we will get into fleshing them out.
rockmom on September 5, 2008 at 2:43 PM
I didn’t she stored her notes there?
MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:43 PM
McCain and Palin look like they are having fun.
Don’t they though? Palin seems born for the stump-speech.
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Racist! Haha, jk.
CP on September 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I’ll be happy as long as she doesn’t say:
“I personally believe that US americans are unable to do so because summa people out there in our nation don’t have that, and I believe that our education like such as south africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our education over here in the US should help the US uh should help south africa and the iraq and the asian countries so we will be able to build up our future for us.”
Hmmm. Sounds like The One going off the teleprompter.
Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM
“Jesus was a community organizer. Pilate was a governor.”
And the comparisons to Christ just keep on coming.
No thanks, Obama. I’ve already got a Messiah.
Troika37 on September 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Obama’s favorite food on the campaign – waffles.
Palin’s favorite food on the campaign – Obama.
EyesOpen on September 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM
*retch*
Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:42 PM
My God…the first post where Grue isn’t eating. Has the earth stopped spinning or something? :-)
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM
What? Plant operatives the media to further your candidate?
Who do you think they are, MSNBC or something?
ExUrbanKevin on September 5, 2008 at 2:46 PM
+1
These guys REALLY do not want to play on our field. When’s the last time you think any of them actually picked up a Bible?
rockmom on September 5, 2008 at 2:46 PM
SWEET FANCY MOSES!
Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:46 PM
please tell me you have a link…that’s gold
sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Cool, another Vicki McKenna fan.
I live in Point and am surrounded by morons here at UWSP. Listening to Vicki keeps me sane.
Oh, and the Don Corleone was a community organizer line is great. Need to get a sign to put up in my office that says this.
PimFortuynsGhost on September 5, 2008 at 2:48 PM
bummer, MSNBC, I cannot, in good conscience click on that video link.
kirkill on September 5, 2008 at 2:48 PM
He tricked me, I thought it was the Bullwinkle picture again, I didn’t get to save it yesterday :( That picture killed my appetite… good Lord I didn’t need to see that…
*recovering… slowly*
Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I agree. It was distracting to see her put her head down to read lines out of a speech she delivered only two days ago. The crowd didn’t seem to mind, though. Hopefully they’ll review the tape and have her work on her delivery.
I loved the “Read My Lipstick” sign. Brilliant!
Kafir on September 5, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Reminds me of Obama’s cowardly manuevers to kill the Induced Infant Liability Act in Illinois…
I guess then it is not quite accurate to say Obama’s done nothing of note in his legislative career, though he doesn’t seem to want to crow about his efforts to deny human rights to children.
18-1 on September 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Regarding this: ala Lloyd Bentsen-Kos, I know Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a friend of mine and Obama is no Christ!
ConservativePartyNow on September 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Jesus was a community organizer?
I don’t think that word means what they think it means…
“render unto Caesar” anyone?
max1 on September 5, 2008 at 2:51 PM
McCain looks old and squinty. Palin needs to stop reading off the paper and look at the crowd. Yawn.
Xolom on September 5, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Another big problem with pumped water storage is that it is less than 50% efficient.
MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Meanwhile back at the ranch:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080905/D930HKN00.html
Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Let Sarah be Sarah.
(he said nicely)
Mr_Magoo
I miss watching your show every afternoon, after school.
I’m having trouble with my vision too.
Christine on September 5, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Meanwhile
back at the ranchfrom under the bus:Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Fixed.
Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Yeah, well they deserved it after attacking Georgia.
kirkill on September 5, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Gifted is the only way to describe talent like that. Sarah Palin is truly gifted.
petefrt on September 5, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Ugh, S-Shower & Shave time. Work ain’t what it is cracked up to be.
Later. The way this blog is moving today, by the time I get home, I expect to find out Biden resigned.
Limerick on September 5, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Naawww…I would much rather see the likes of Olberman peeing all over himself than Obama. Obama is just being Obama..OlberNoid has gone to great lengths and put in a lot of work to become the Complete Douche Bag that we’ve all come to know and despise….
BigWyo on September 5, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Oh man, listening to Obama speech clips you can tell he has lost his edge. It’s all “they don’t tell you nothin’ new..heh hehe…it’s just the same ol’ thing…heh heh..you know what I’m sayin’”?
He’s in trouble and he knows it. Nervous laughter and all.
Bishop on September 5, 2008 at 3:05 PM
I am sure you are correct. Just seems that Obama is hitting them hard on being out of touch with everyday people. With Sarah there is no way Obama should get away with this.
I, Too, wish Mccain would quite looking down at her notes.
Dang, I want our guys/gals to be perfect and win this thing.
jamc1316 on September 5, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Well, there’s one thing I can agree with Obama on. I too wish the ticket was reversed.
BowHuntingTexas on September 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Good call.
When Gov Sarah spoke on Wednesday I was hoping she would lead off with..
“I thought I would stand here like this so you could see if I was really as big a son of a bitch as you think I am.”
Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 3:09 PM
A giddy Ann Coulter’s new motto is: “She’s only a heartbeat away!”
TheBigOldDog on September 5, 2008 at 3:09 PM
McCain’s on fire in this vid. Sounded better than Palin, as a matter of fact.
RushBaby on September 5, 2008 at 3:11 PM
If you need me, I’ll be cleaning soda off my monitor.
Well-said!
ExUrbanKevin on September 5, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Mav was better here than last night. Where has this guy been? This is not the Mav I have known.
Wow. Shots at and shout out to the French!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 5, 2008 at 3:15 PM
“You will know their names. We will make them famous.”
Great line.
RushBaby on September 5, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Sugarland at 2:11:
I saw the wind blowing Sarah’s notes. Sheesh, give her time, she probably won’t need them by next week.
marybel on September 5, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Every time I hear Obama speak, I am reminded of one of my all-time favorite WWE wrestlers. I expect him to finish one of his speeches with…”do you smell what Barack is cookin!?”
74impala on September 5, 2008 at 3:20 PM
This is not the Mav I used to know…….stop the friggin bus and give the guy a hand.
David in ATL on September 5, 2008 at 3:21 PM
So Obama has invented the perfect Perpetual Motion Machine! Doesn’t Obidiot realize that it takes more energy to pump the water up than you get from letting it flow down through a turbine? Neither Congress nor the Obamessiah himself can repeal the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics! But they don’t teach that in Hahvid Law School or Community Organizer school! You want wind energy, build a wind turbine and a generator, and you don’t need a dam! Think of all the salmon and snail-darters that would save!
New Obama bumper sticker: Dam the wind, damn Amerikkka!
What an airhead!!!
Steve Z on September 5, 2008 at 3:21 PM
She’s still doing well, and the crowd obviously loves her. It’s unfortunate, though, that she’s so clearly reading her speech, to the point that she’s actually following the words on the page with her finger. That reinforces the left’s meme that she’s nothing more than a pretty lady who can read a speech well. I don’t believe for a second that that’s the case — I think she’s delivering a new stump speech for the first time, and it was likely cobbled together just last night from bits of her other two speeches. But that understanding won’t stop leftists from grabbing the clip of her following the words with her finger and reinforcing the idea that she’s just a reader and not a person who believes passionately what she’s saying and can communicate well extemporaneously.
John, on the other hand, was on fire.
aero on September 5, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Obama on O’Reilly
Not part and parcel of the same ideology? Is he joking?
Perverted the faith of Islam? Prove it. Perverted how and where?
awake on September 5, 2008 at 3:24 PM
The mccain campaign needs to take that barry quote and run it over shots of our American military working in Iraq and end the ad by saying mccain stood with thousands of Ameican military men and women in believing they would succeed at thier mission.
peacenprosperity on September 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Who is Obama’s VP? There is not one headline, one mention of this man, anywhere. Even Hillary got a headline today. Is he buckling under the pressure or smartly hiding under a rock so he doesn’t get sprayed from shrapnel coming off of Obama.
EyesOpen on September 5, 2008 at 3:28 PM
I’ve seen this on a T-shirt.
eigafan on September 5, 2008 at 3:32 PM
It’s easy to forget that – of the DOZENS of people we’ve seen run for President this year (with one possible exception) – Sarah is the only one who didn’t spend every waking moment of her life since early adolescence preparing for this campaign.
I assume she’s taking lots of advice, as anyone taking on a new job should. She’ll have to tread (for her) carefully, while she’s on unfamiliar terrain. BUT I have no doubt that she’ll sift through it and in very short order drop 90% of it and keep only that which is unquestionably Sarah’s own — That’s what Sarah does maybe better than anyone else.
Plus I really like the hairstyle she has in this clip.
logis on September 5, 2008 at 3:32 PM
I thought Biden was this multi facetted attack dog, secret weapon of the Obama campaign. Has this man said anything of revelance other than ‘Obama Bin Laden’. Come on Joe make a contribution to the conversation, its quickly slipping away.
EyesOpen on September 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM
She is devouring Obama!
I’m sure Obama’s campaign is just aghast at how she is tearing him apart. Pit-bull.
Biden beter prepare himself for the woodshed.
Theworldisnotenough on September 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Does anyone else here get a feeling that Palin may have changed this campaign in a very fundamental way?
Look at the way McCain actually seems energized. He’s hitting the conservative themes, hitting the patriotism and reform topics, and he’s having fun.
I have been extremely anti-McCain in the past, but he seems different now… and I don’t think its just my perception of him either.
It’s almost like he realizes that with the conservatives on his side, he really does have the chance to affect real, positive change… and it makes him giddy. So much so, that he’s almost following Palin’s conservative lead instead of pushing his moderate views. I get the feeling he didn’t realize how many disgruntled conservatives there really were… like after realizing he raised $7 million in one day… “If I’d known that I would have put her on the ticket sooner.”
Anyone else here see this, or is it just my wishful thinking?
dominigan on September 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Didn’t mean to sound too snarky about Palin apparently following the text with her finger. I did see lots of wind. Do you think we could invest in a paper weight or maybe a podium with a higher side to it? Okay, I’m overprotective, but still. And if nothing else, damn, Maverick seems to have more life in him now than ever. Probably a combination of really feeling for the first time in months that he can win this baby and partly from the relief that the most painful aspect for him – the big speech – is over.
Sugar Land on September 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM
I love Sarah, can’t wait for all the wonderful speeches and debates to come…………….
BUT…….. Note to John McCain and the RNC. I enjoyed Sarah’s speech so much I listened to it three times. Then I watched John’s speech twice.
When you get out on the trail, and you begin by repeating what was said just a few nights before, it leaves me…………… wanting.
Keep it fresh, go after Obama and the Democrats for their behaviour against the war for the past 5 years, and the Democratically controlled Congress for the past two.
There is plenty of ammo out there, don’t be aftaid to use it.
How about John McCain brining Sarah Palin to the Senate as a “guest” while he introduces legislation to allow us to drill and harvest our own energy in a bold new step to become energy independent? Then force the Democrats to either vote for or against it in the light of day before the American people. Then use that to bash them over the head at every turn?
Keep it fresh, keep it coming, and don’t ever, ever stop!
Seven Percent Solution on September 5, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Basically, I feel like Palin is influencing McCain’s views rather than the other way around.
dominigan on September 5, 2008 at 3:46 PM
This’ll knock it out of the park:
“There’s no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn’t mind who gets the credit.”
Is the Obama campaign REALLY this obtuse?
JeffWeimer on September 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM
+10 WOW! Now that’s an idea!
dominigan on September 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM
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