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Video: Palin hammers Obama over the surge in Wisconsin

posted at 2:00 pm on September 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Six and a half minutes of her from today’s stop in Cedarburg, followed by Maverick asking around the seven-minute mark if she isn’t, er, “the most marvelous running mate in the history of this nation.” The shot at Obama comes up front, swinging at a softball tossed yesterday by The One when he stupidly insisted that nobody anticipated the success of the surge. Meanwhile, Gallup’s three-day tracking poll sees a three-point bump for Maverick — and only one of those three days came after Palin’s speech. How much has the CW shifted? Enough that the same two Politico reporters who accused him of being desperate for picking her this weekend are now analyzing how she’s changed the race. Note especially the section on how McCain’s been liberated; like I’ve been saying, Palin isn’t a ploy to the middle, she’s a ploy to anchor the base so that Maverick himself can go after the middle. Case in point.

So suddenly has the momentum shifted that TPM claims Team Barry’s toying with the idea of abandoning its “ignore Palin” strategy and going after McCain over the fact that … Palin’s more gosh-darned popular than he is. Mind you, they were pushing the Eagleton meme two days ago; now, post-speech, they’re ready to argue that the ticket should be flipped. I can’t remotely fathom why they’d want to boost Palin’s credibility by emphasizing the fact of her appeal, unless they’re going for some sort of half-assed “celebrity” meme of their own vis-a-vis McCain. The problem is, the celebrity thing only works against Obama because he’s inexperienced; it’s the fact that people are so excited about a lightweight, not the fact that people are excited at all, that makes him seem ridiculous in those spots. If the Dems try it to McCain, it’s going to come off either like they’re congratulating him for finding such a killer running mate or as a backfiring commentary on why politicians with thin records really don’t deserve such adulation. Cross those fingers.

Exit question: Does the left really want to put its chips on comparing Sarah Palin to Pontius Pilate?


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and once again showing the Bill-O though not hard on Barry gave him enough rope to hoist himself….

“uh uh uh nobody knew it’d uh go so well…”

except Bush, McCain, Biden, Clitnon, Petrateus, Franks….etc etc etc

Bambi-against the surge before finally being drug kicking and screaming to victory!

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Exit question: Does the left really want to put its chips on comparing Sarah Palin to Pontius Pilate?

Yes. They are just that stupid.

ManlyRash on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

has Ed been spiking your drink AP?

a Palin post without a “but” portion? :P

First Krauthammer, and now you?

tsk tsk tsk

YellowDawg on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Obama, how does it feel to be the moose?

Cicero43 on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

The surge in Wisconsin?
Doggone, I didn’t even know we were at war in Wisconsin.

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

It was this populist broadside about developing an energy policy to cut dependence on foreign oil — which could have been delivered by any Democrat:

“My fellow Americans, when I’m president, we’re going to embark on the most ambitious national project in decades. We’re going to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don’t like us very much.”

Nonsense. The Dems would never refer to Middle East countries that don’t like us very much. They’d blame us for not being liked.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Exit question: Does the left really want to put its chips on comparing Sarah Palin to Pontius Pilate?

KOS already did, it’s only a matter of time before the more mainstream left follows suit.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I was for the surge in Wisconsin before I was against it.

Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

But I’m sure Obama’s already in favor of surrendering in Wisconsin.

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

oh goodness, who wants to bet they’ll be pushing the Jesus-community organizer angle?

It’s amazing, it’s like these loonies have no idea when we refer to him as a messiah, it’s in derision.

YellowDawg on September 5, 2008 at 2:06 PM

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

Mr. D on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM

She really is a terrific pick. She is going to flummox Obama.

Just out of curiosity, don’t these speeches and the campaign ads fall under this umbrella too?

Because they’re an insult to people’s intelligence almost by definition. They’re always full of distortions and larded up with crap designed to appeal to niche constituencies I don’t care about. I could watch them as pure performance, I guess, but that would be even more cynical. Better to just skip them.

If the Dems try it to McCain, it’s going to come off like they’re congratulating him for finding such a killer running mate.

Haha. I bet Joe Biden isn’t a guy pushing this idea. This was a truly inspired pick by McCain. What a difference a week makes.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM

But I’m sure Obama’s already in favor of surrendering in Wisconsin.

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

we mus uh um allow the erm cows to uh um um y’know have back their erm uh um land….

can’t hear myself

thank you goodnight

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Wisconsin is techniclaly a country since Eu-Claire or however it’s spelled is actually a state according to Obama.

YellowDawg on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Go pitbull, Go!!!!

Sarah kicks more ass than Master of Puppets.

Agent of the Cross on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM

I grew up in Wisconsin. She is going to appeal to people there in a BIG way. It’s been close the last couple of elections (voter fraud in Milwaukee) – but I think we may win it this time.

capitalist piglet on September 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM

KOS already did, it’s only a matter of time before the more mainstream left follows suit.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Grue you lovable gremilin…

KEEP IT UP!

We are inside their OODA Loop.

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM

And of course, I’m working, with half of my team off today.

If I missed my only chance to glimpse Sarah Reagan with my own eyes, someone’s losing teeth.

MadisonConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:09 PM

oh goodness, who wants to bet they’ll be pushing the Jesus-community organizer angle?

It’s amazing, it’s like these loonies have no idea when we refer to him as a messiah, it’s in derision.

YellowDawg on September 5, 2008 at 2:06 PM
—–
Of course Jesus was a community organizer! So was Saul of Tarsus, aka St. Paul. You know, the guy that big dome in London is named after.

They just weren’t organizing kingdoms on earth, unlike The One.

Mew

acat on September 5, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Obama, how does it feel to be the moose?

Cicero43 on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Thanks for the laugh.

What a week…

Rightwingsparkle on September 5, 2008 at 2:09 PM

I couldn’t be more pleased with her on the ticket. Just what we need: plain talk and common sense to cut through the wall of crap being ceaselessly spun by the Obama campaign.

Keep on ‘em Sarah.

Citizen Duck on September 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM

The surge in Wisconsin?
Doggone, I didn’t even know we were at war in Wisconsin.

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

I got the shit kicked out of me in Wisconsin.

embittered redleg on September 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM

But I’m sure Obama’s already in favor of surrendering in Wisconsin.
Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

LOL. Beat us all to it. Surrender meme kind of automatic when Don Vito Obamb’leone is brought to mind.

Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM

YellowDawg on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

KP is gradually moving him towards that 10 scorecard ranking. Good for her. Takes a strong woman to move a stubborn man.

a capella on September 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM

I LOVE Sarah, but they need to coach her not to look like she’s tracing the words she’s reading with her finger. Maybe I’m mistaken, it just looked that way a couple of times. Yes, yes, I know they ALL read scripts -and Obama is never without his teleprompter – which is why he’s always “looking up.” Of course, that may just be his perpetual nose in the air pose too.

Sugar Land on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM

:D

Go pitbull, Go!!!!

Sarah kicks more ass than Master of Puppets.

Agent of the Cross on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM

The mental image of Sarah’cuda sniping down some Moonbats to Metallica is quite amusing.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

any word on how large these crowds are?

jp on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Ok, I’ll say it. The striped suit has got to go.

Limerick on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

The surge in Wisconsin?
Doggone, I didn’t even know we were at war in Wisconsin.

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

As far as I’m concerned, Madison is continually at war with reality. It’s a thrill living behind enemy lines.

MadisonConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Governor Palin, regarding Senator McCain: A leader you isn’t looking for a fight, but certainly isn’t afraid of one.

Senator Obama, regarding Governor Palin: Mommy! She’s picking on me!

Loxodonta on September 5, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Bullwinkle Hussein Obama just found out that its moose hunting season.

eaglewingz08 on September 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Am I the only person that thinks “Read My Lipstick” is absolutely brilliant?

Damiano on September 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Look how re-energized McCain seems!

Rightwingsparkle on September 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Gallup Polls: 44-48

Sarah is 44 years old and Alaska is the 48th state in the union.

Well, AP, are the stars beginning to align for a Mccain/Palin victory?

Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

old joe is shaken in his boots ……

I have to debate her?

Mojack420 on September 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

I think it is just a bit ironic they are speaking in front of an “eatery”

I question the location! (laugh)

Grue, you must be proud.

kybowexar on September 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Team McCain just sent along his speeches for the remainder of the campaign.

******

(Applause)

John: Thank you very much. Thank you. Now, here’s Sarah. Sarah?

******

amerpundit on September 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Mav…stop hugging your running mate. STOP!

.

.

.

It’s making the rest of us jealous.

Slublog on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Ok, I’ll say it. The striped suit has got to go.

Limerick on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

She is not a prisoner to the oantsuit….

her beauty is such she could campaign in a burlap bag and I’d go see her.

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

When Palin starts to lose her place in the speech, she switches to that cute little playful tone she does so well… I don’t know why, but it’s very effective. It’s like she’s saying “yeah, I’m reading a speech… so sue me, I’m having fun.”

DaveS on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

*pantsuit

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Actual AK is 49th

ConservativePartyNow on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

amerpundit on September 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

He’s taking up too much time. Get to Sarah already.

MadisonConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Eeep. It looks like she’s looking down at her notes a lot.

That makes me nervous.

It's Vintage, Duh on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Did you see the sign???

READ MY LIP-STICK

mad saint jack on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

any word on how large these crowds are?

Fox said “thousands” FWIW.

ex-Democrat on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

I know you can’t have an original speech for every campaign stop, but in this Internet-age, they really need to increase the variance a bit.

LimeyGeek on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Hey, putting Sarah in front of the “EATERY” sign — I hate to get all DKos/DU conspiratorial, but do you think there’s some kind of subliminal message there?

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Look how re-energized McCain seems!
Rightwingsparkle on September 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Ahhh… the influence of a good woman.

Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM

I love the “Read My Lipstick!” sign.

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM

McCain is so much better on the stump than off a teleprompter.

someone on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

John looks so happy like he doesn’t know what to do. Ha it is so wonderful to see this ticket!

kerrhome on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Am I the only person that thinks “Read My Lipstick” is absolutely brilliant? – Damiano on September 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Nope. I’m right there with yu, Damiano. I think it was brilliantly inspired and wouldn’t be surprised if we hear her use it again. She’s beautiful enough to be able to get away with it, whereas Hillary, for example, is not.

ManlyRash on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

With the way things are going for John and Sarah, bho will have to get acorn out stat going to grave yards getting new voters signed up. Gotta love this. I’m the happiest I have been in months.
L

letget on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

So the Dems are saying that our #2 is as good as our #1 ?? then we have 2 number ones to their 2 number twos ??

redrock on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

That sign said, “Read my lipstick!” teehee

petunia on September 5, 2008 at 2:18 PM

She needs new soundbites…

Everyone who is there probaly already heard that speech…

Romeo13 on September 5, 2008 at 2:18 PM

[mad saint jack on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM]

LOL, yes. Love it! I want one signed by Sarah. Gosh, I hope they campaign in NYS. I think they can take it.

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Hey, putting Sarah in front of the “EATERY” sign — I hate to get all DKos/DU conspiratorial, but do you think there’s some kind of subliminal message there? – Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Scene begins to fade as Markos Moulitsas runs toward the crowd screaming “Soylen Green is Democrats…it’s Democrats!”

ManlyRash on September 5, 2008 at 2:18 PM

I hate to get all DKos/DU conspiratorial

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Then don’t.

MadisonConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Palin’s killing Jesus; again? *shudders*

lorien1973 on September 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM

To the McCain Campaign:

John, stop staring at her notes XD

Thank you,
BoB

apollyonbob on September 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM

I know you can’t have an original speech for every campaign stop, but in this Internet-age, they really need to increase the variance a bit.

LimeyGeek on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Agree. I know the points have to be made, but it hurts when everyone knows the next line. For goodness sake, 37,000,000 people saw the speech live and millions afterward. The same points need to be made, but with slight changes.

Sugar Land on September 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM

2 number twos ??

redrock on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

\

Absolutely! Obama/Biden: Two number two’s. And they stink!

Loxodonta on September 5, 2008 at 2:20 PM

[Romeo13 on September 5, 2008 at 2:18 PM]

True but it’s good to use ‘em at least twice in a row and then as you say mix them up to keep it fresh and new.

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 2:20 PM

LimeyGeek on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Did you watch Greta last night? She says they all do it. It’s death for the reporters.

lorien1973 on September 5, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Eeep. It looks like she’s looking down at her notes a lot.

That makes me nervous.

It’s Vintage, Duh on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

She’s allowed…if they hit her for it too hard all John has to do in a debate is go into a mocking “uh uh um y’know”….”seriously friends we all use teleprompters and notes even my good opponent here”….it’ll bring down the house

sven10077 on September 5, 2008 at 2:20 PM

“Nonsense. The Dems would never refer to Middle East countries that don’t like us very much. They’d blame us for not being liked.”

No, the Dems would blame the JOOOZ and Israel because they and they alone are the cause of the world’s misery.

And this is the party that Jewish voters support election after election as if Roosevelt and Truman were still in office. As if.

This is one Jew who will NEVER vote Dem. As I had stated elsewhere, to be Jewish and vote Dem today is the equivalent of walking into the gas chamber and believing that water was going to come out of the shower heads.

J.J. Sefton on September 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Actual AK is 49th

ConservativePartyNow on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Crap! I should have read ahead. It’s 48th in population. (No wonder Sarah isn’t qualified running that dinky little state!)

Mr_Magoo on September 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Mav…stop hugging your running mate. STOP!

Slublog on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

DEMs are considering asking Obama to hug Biden some more…

AverageJoe on September 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM

putting Sarah in front of the “EATERY” sign

Yeah… Eatery our dust!

Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Actual AK is 49th

ConservativePartyNow on September 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Righto. Arizona is 48th.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on September 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM

one thing that i have noticed is that the drudge report seems to be more positive with mccain now that palin is on the ticket. drudge has never been a fan of john mccain. even during the election drudge seemed to be very positive of obama.

now, things look different. yesterday was all positive palin on drudge. positive reviews. the bold red headline, 37,270,000 with a nice pic of her.

drudge report does have a lot of influence in elections. he seems to be falling of the mccain/palin ticket now.

anyone else noticed that?

venicesurfer on September 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM

They should tie in Afghanistan to Obama’s opposition to the surge and support for withdrawal from Iraq, and show how Obama was purely motivated by political opportunism on those issues even at the cost of Iraq descending into total collapse.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/03/the_evolving_barack_obama.asp

In July of 2004, the day after his speech at the Democratic convention catapulted him into the national spotlight, Barack Obama told a group of reporters in Boston that the United States had an “absolute obligation” to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success.

“The failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster,” he said at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, according to an audiotape of the session. “It would dishonor the 900-plus men and women who have already died. . . . It would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective.”

When it became clear that only a Democratic candidate who had a serious chance of getting the nomination was one who opposed Bush on the surge and would abandon Iraq by withdrawing, all the Democratic nominees were trying to appease the Move.Org/Kos crowd by seeing who could get out of Iraq the fastest.

McCain and Palin should hammer Obama on this point. That if he were elected and the Move.Org/Kos kids/Code Pink whacko’s start screaming to get out of Afghanistan, Obama would capitulate like he did on Iraq and show that dishonoring the troops, betraying the people, and concern about National security means nothing to him if it hurts his political fortunes.

gumble on September 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM

I think Governor Palin has increased Senator McCain’s enthusiasm and confidence as much as the base. Awesome.

Loxodonta on September 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM

IF she bones up on Foreign Policy and KNOWS the names of all of the leaders, the “inexperience card” is off the table. THEN:

Drilling
+
Border Security
+
Anti-Socialism
+
Obama’s Friends
+
Biden’s 2 Aneurysms
=
Victory

marklmail on September 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM

LOVE Sarah, but they need to coach her not to look like she’s tracing the words she’s reading with her finger. Maybe I’m mistaken, it just looked that way a couple of times. Yes, yes, I know they ALL read scripts -and Obama is never without his teleprompter – which is why he’s always “looking up.” Of course, that may just be his perpetual nose in the air pose too.

Sugar Land on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

She really needs to work on this. She shouldn’t be looking down at the podium while speaking, she needs to be looking at the audience.

Mark1971 on September 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM

falling for*

venicesurfer on September 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM

BARACK: “The surge in Wisconsin is just another Bush administration diversion from the real terrorist threat . . . in Illinois!”

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM

Ok, I’ll say it. The striped suit has got to go.

Limerick on September 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Really? Because one of my favorite outfits is just like that. I don’t know why people don’t like her hair or clothes and yeah it’s sexist but the way it is with women. Anyway I had the opposite thoughts about the stripes.

petunia on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM

I got the shit kicked out of me in Wisconsin.

I was waiting for the Stripes reference on this thread, embittered redleg. I grew up in Wisconsin and it’s definitely safer in Czechoslovakia. Not too hard to tell that a Chicago guy wrote that line….

Mr. D on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM

She’s beautiful enough to be able to get away with it, whereas Hillary, for example, is not.

ManlyRash on September 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Depends on your standards.

Chuck Schick on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM

Everytime Sarah-cuda speaks, I picture the battle scenes in 300.

Spartan Palin; Let history show, that few stood against many.

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM

DEMs are considering asking Obama to hug Biden some more…

AverageJoe on September 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM

I remember Kerry and Edwards…. Gay Porn

Tony Soprano on September 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM

The surge in Wisconsin?
Doggone, I didn’t even know we were at war in Wisconsin.

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Pre-emptive measures against an angry uprising of the locals, just in case Aaron Rodgers bombs out against the Vikings on Monday night.

jon1979 on September 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM

What do the letters CW stand for?

jaime on September 5, 2008 at 2:25 PM

They had a surge in Wisconsin??

Dang it, I told them they need a surge in Chicago.

The voice in my head says:

Is Wisconsin the 56th or the 57th state?

MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Damn those dangled participles.

pugwriter on September 5, 2008 at 2:25 PM

i have a great idea….

the mccain camp should plant a reporter to ask her a question like….who is the president of uzbekistan?

she will answer it correctly, while the media film it. it will be all over the news showing how she nailed it. someone is bound to ask her something like that. might as well be a plant.

dirty i know. but thats politics. im very machiavellian.

venicesurfer on September 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Did you watch Greta last night? She says they all do it. It’s death for the reporters.

lorien1973 on September 5, 2008 at 2:20 PM

I bet it’s death. Think of the opportunity that presents though. The reporters are a fuel-starved fire….so mix things up enough to grab attention and throw some gas on it!

LimeyGeek on September 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM

i think the headline should be..

palin hammers obama in wisconsin over the surge.

venicesurfer on September 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Bullwinkle Hussein Obama just found out that its moose hunting season.

Bullwinkle Obama…. now I like the sounds of that…

CC

CapedConservative on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM

What do the letters CW stand for?

jaime on September 5, 2008 at 2:25 PM

“Common Wisdom”

apollyonbob on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Grue in the Attic on September 5, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Oh, Grue — it’s OK, John McCain was a community organizer, too.

Cuffy Meigs on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM

What do the letters CW stand for?

jaime on September 5, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Conquer Wisconsin

Ali-Bubba on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I can hear the deep, hearty laughter of one Hillary Clinton from where I sit…

bridgetown on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Depends on your standards. – Chuck Schick on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM

Or blood alcohol level. *shudder*

ManlyRash on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM

wow, from virtually unknown to TOTALLY over rated in less than a week. Few can boast such an accomplishment.

I’m sorry she’s mediocre at best, and Even with McCain’s hard ralphie, he’s still barely a conservative. You people are all quite easy to please.

beefytee on September 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Teams that are running well don’t typically leak like this.

It’s often a sign that the insiders are getting desperate and are using the media to get back at each other.

The voice in my head says:

Where did you put the popcorn?

MarkTheGreat on September 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM

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