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Top Obama supporter to Ingraham: Shouldn’t Palin be home taking care of her kids? Update: Media annoyed at GOP criticism

posted at 4:24 pm on September 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Fair to call him a “top” supporter? Given the fact that he’s a member of The One’s national finance committee and advertises that fact in his HuffPo bio, I’m going with “yes.” His M.O. reminds me of Greenwald trying to rewrite the definition of “chickenhawk” so that it applies to the right but not the left: Start with the smear you want to use, then refine the parameters just enough to protect your own side from the tu quoque. In this case it means replacing the argument that mom should be home with the family with the more highly nuanced argument that any politician of either sex should be home when their family’s in crisis. Bristol’s pregnant and baby Trig has Down’s syndrome and, gosh, don’t you think a responsible mother gender-neutral parent would consider that before doing something as rash as running for high office? To which I reply: Am I hallucinating or isn’t there a guy on the other ticket who had a much worse family crisis than this, who in fact has been praised to the heavens for not quitting his job and instead making a heroic effort to manage both kids and career through hard times? Did I dream that? I could have sworn I heard something about it recently.

All part of the effort to freak-ify her, of course. She’s a bad mom with a chillbilly family better suited to Springer than to network election coverage. That’s why the AP’s including cute little details about school mascots in their stories of how many colleges she attended. And why “respectable” journals of left-wing thought are soliciting pieces from advice columnists. Exit question: Does the left really want to play a game of “children ruined by absentee political parents”? Because I know just the place to start.

Update: Don’t you mind what those conservatives are saying about the press, now. The coverage is fair because, well, we say it is:

After several primetime speakers at this week’s Republican National Convention unleashed a barrage of attacks on the news media for their coverage of vice-presidential nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, network news executives defended their coverage and dismissed the charges as a stale political strategy meant to distract viewers from legitimate election issues.

“It’s a time-honored marketing ploy and, every time they bash the media, it means they’re not talking about a vision or a plan,” CNN president Jon Klein said. “But the best antidote to cynical marketing is solid reporting.”…

“America has been presented with a total unknown who might be a heartbeat away from the presidency,” Klein said of Palin, “and Americans have every right to expect as much information as possible about this person so that they can make an informed choice. Certainly our critics are in favor of Americans making an informed choice, aren’t they?”

What Klein means by “informed choice,” of course, is having his reporters recycle Daily Kos rumors about whether Trig is really Palin’s child and wonder aloud whether the mother of a Down’s baby should really be doing something as selfish as running for vice president.

These morons understand that the public agrees with McCain’s campaign about this, yes?


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Compare that to McCain, who is milking his time out of harm’s way like he won the Vietnam war personally or something…what an embarrassment to soldiers everywhere he’s become in his old age.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Look, bozo: the fact that he made it back broken but alive, and with nothing to be ashamed of before his country is victory enough. He said so himself.

Why don’t you say what you just said to Col Buck Day? He was a POW in the same Hanoi Hilton as McCain. I dare you!

John Kerry is an embarrassment to soldiers, not McCain! Kerry betrayed them – publicly!

YOU, however, are an embarrassment to public education anywhere!

newton on September 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM

I guess this is why John Edwards dropped out of the race when Elizabeth’s cancer returned. To take care of her and the kids.

Oh, wait. That’s not what happened.

Laura on September 5, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Yeah, I brought that question up yesterday.

Interesting.

The Ugly American on September 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Compare that to McCain, who is milking his time out of harm’s way like he won the Vietnam war personally or something…what an embarrassment to soldiers everywhere he’s become in his old age.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM

I’m proud of McCain’s service then and now.

Btw I served in OIF I and III with Army LRSC

davenp35 on September 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Why do people waste a second of good space on the likes of alphie. This thing is nothing other than a leech, a tick, a troll…

Keemo on September 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM

And which high office did he hold? He run any campaigns?

Assuming he did, I suppose he’d conclude that a personal story like McCain’s bears no relevance toward evaluating the quality of his character? Sure. You keep at that line of reasoning.

Run away little progressive.

TheUnrepentantGeek on September 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Screw the trolls here. Use the energy wasted on them to write the Obama campaign and demand that Howard Gutman be terminated and an investigation be started into his campaign staff.

“There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us,” he said. “Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired.”

Damiano on September 5, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Why do people waste a second of good space on the likes of alphie. This thing is nothing other than a leech, a tick, a troll…

Keemo on September 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM

…cause it feels soooo good to throw a beatin’ on this Libtard…..

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 5:44 PM

I just don’t think you should project hypocritical views on to others. Nor should Baldi. You are both in error, in my true opinion, to do so.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 5:39 PM

First, oh good :)

On the “projection” – it’s not meant as such – for my part it’s just observation. You know, or I repeat, that I’ve never tried to convert anyone from one spectrum of politics to another, nor on religion. I leave these two to each’s own because both my parents drummed this into us kids.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:44 PM

I grew up next to a guy who won a chest full of medals in WWII, Rick.

Never heard about them until his funeral.

He never mentioned his heroism in the 20 years I lived next door to him…once.

Compare that to McCain, who is milking his time out of harm’s way like he won the Vietnam war personally or something…what an embarrassment to soldiers everywhere he’s become in his old age.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Exactly what does this have to do with Sarah Palin being told she should stay home and raise her kids? If you can’t make a good argument you just change the subject I guess.

thevastlane on September 5, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Look, bozo: the fact that he made it back broken but alive, and with nothing to be ashamed of before his country is victory enough. He said so himself.

I’m merely pointing out that McCain’s milking of his POW time goes beyond the bounds of what is considered decent behavior in the America…and the military.

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Not to mention, bozo: my husband’s grandparents were members of Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW). Were they alive today, they would be honored to stand alongside John McCain.

Did you see the veterans on the convention floor? There were plenty. And the throngs of VFW vets who greeted him at their convention this summer? And those soldiers and sailors who greet him wherever they encounter him?

Old vets embarrassed by him? Never! Ashamed to breathe the same air as bozos like you? Absolutely!

And yes, we here have given to the local VFW post over the years.

newton on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

for my part it’s just observation.

MDE, it’s wrong. It’s like seeing a sail on the horizon. It looks like 1 ship, but as you get closer you can see it’s 2+. There is distinction, not hypocrisy on this issue. One would expect the intensity of the reaction this past week, might lead to this conclusion, unless you consider the majority of the base deluded about their own values.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

[alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM]

‘Yo alphie, I grew up next to a guy who won a chest full of citations community organizing.

Never heard about them until his funeral.

He never mentioned his community organizing heroism in the 20 years I lived next door to him…once.

Compare that to Obama, who is milking his pitiful amount of time community organizing while actually absolutely squat for his community and everything to line the pockets of his rich corrupt buddies like Rezko, Ayers, Wright and lining his own and Michelle’s pocket.’

Here’s the sum total recollection of Obama’s accomplishments as community organizer (via QandO):

But if you ask Obama’s fellow organizers what his most significant accomplishments were, they point to two ventures: the expansion of a city summer-job program for South Side teenagers and the removal of asbestos from one of the area’s oldest housing projects. Those, they say, were his biggest victories.

Like I said over there, one of Obama’s biggest achievements was expanding an existing summer jobs program in a city that never saw a public spending program it didn’t like and the other was getting asbestos abated in a housing project during a time when everything publicly owned was being asbestos abated by Federal regulation? Give me a break, he’d have impressed e more if he said he handed out coffee and donuts at meetings.

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 5:49 PM

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM –

alphie, you blathering little twit…do I have to find you another porta-potty website for you to link to?

Your neighbor who served, and well, and honorably. Many many did likewise.

Prior to the flight deck fire on the Forrestal nobody heard of John McCain. After his transfer to the Oriskany, there were many who thought because of his high visibility being the son of one of the top admirals in the Navy, it’d be better to get him back to the States. John McCain chose otherwise.

When he was shot down, back in the days of three-networks and slow newspapers, it took less than a week for us here in the States to learn about the son of CINCPAC being a prisoner in North Vietnam. Took the North Vietnamese a lot longer to figure this out. At that point, John McCain’s captivity became part of the public domain. His “celebrity” was foisted upon him, he did not, a la John Kerry, take an 8mm movie camera with him and a Pentax to document his miltary prowess. The North Vietnamese plastered the world with his photos and films of him. When he refused to be released early, as a North Vietnamese attempt to sway public opinion, he refused, and he was no longer the subject of visual North Vietnamese propaganda.

John Mccain revealed a few “unknowns” about his captivity over the past week that were heretofore not something about which he liked to talk. In general, he soes not like to talk about it.

Your jejune rationalization that McCain is somehow flying totally on his military record and his alleged using the same for political expedience demonstrates clearly that you are simple-minded at best.

With that, here’s something you should spend some time enjoying. More appropriate to your proclivities.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2008 at 5:49 PM

actually absolutely = actually doing absolutely

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

His POW story is already known history. However, there is a new generation out there that discounts, rejects, and even mocks what he endured.

You are among those, bozo.

newton on September 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

We agree, fully!

MDS, if it makes you happier, let’s call it “distinction” :)

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM

With that, here’s something you should spend some time enjoying. More appropriate to your proclivities.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Link doesn’t work, coldwarrior.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Fine. I give up. Rumsfeld is right. There are unknown unknowns. Which is why the media et al miss the point here.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Fox news is having the same debate between the Obama camp and McCain camp. It is a waste of time because it just turns into a shouting match.

Same thing with environmental issues or oil. It is just a waste of time trying to engage these fanatics because they turn it into a shouting match, and if that doesn’t work they start breaking windows.

Same thing with these [expletive] trolls. Waste of time; ignore them.

rockhauler on September 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Thank you, Entelechy…I hate when that happens.

Nevertheless, here it is.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Same thing with these [expletive] trolls. Waste of time; ignore them.

rockhauler on September 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM

You’re right. I should never waste my time with idiots!

newton on September 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Fine. I give up. Rumsfeld is right. There are unknown unknowns. Which is why the media et al miss the point here.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM

What a good guy. If I were the real wife you’d have said “you’re right honey, we’ll agree to move on” :)

Just kidding around on a Friday. It’s a good time to be in the anti-media camp. It’s schadenfreudig beyond belief. Here’s hoing it won’t burn us later.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM

What you are advocating is that we be judgmental of other families lives. Which is what many conservatives reject.

Alright. I’ll pretend that I haven’t seen all the lamentations regarding purposeful single parenthood from the right side of the aisle–especially about how it has affected the black population.

Oh puh-leeeze. Conservatives are not saying men and women are the same.

Sure they are. Now.

They are saying that people have freedom to choose.

Andy in Agoura Hills on September 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Correct. Freedom to make the right choice or the wrong choice—and deal with the consequences of either. That’s what liberty is all about.

Should I run around and say, excuse me ma’am, since you have a period do you think it’s safe for you to own a gun? Or be in the military? Of course, not, it’s asinine.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 5:25 PM

An incredible non sequitur of a analogy stemming from your own preconceived notions. Here, let a retired military woman help you: “since you’re PREGNANT do you think it’s safe for you to be humping a 100-lb rucksack?”

And if they are not the same, then would it not follow that they would have different roles as parents?

baldilocks on September 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Gee…kinda depends on the parents – doesn’t it?

Why does the basic premise have to pertain to ALL parents?

What about individualism?

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM

Individualism ends where reality begins. Case in point (yuck alert).

As a full time single parent, of 17 year old twins, who I’ve raised by MYSELF since they were ONE?

I find your attitude offensive.

And?

You are buying into the Left Wing meme about what Conservatives believe, and what THEY say we think.

Romeo13 on September 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Do you have an example of

a) me buying into something new, i.e. something in which conservatives never claim to believe

b) me using a specific leftist meme

Pointing out that hypocrisy is not the sole propriety of the left, or the right, can get you in lots of trouble here :)

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM

True dat.

baldilocks on September 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM

I hate when that happens.

Nevertheless, here it is.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Know the mini-agony, from previous experience :)

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Baldi, to be in your sisterhood is dangerous but very reassuring :) And, we disagree on some items, as the record knows.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Actualy, no. That is the Leftist Mantra, but Conservatives prefer to win with dignity and honor.

If you abrogate your own rules, and throw away your own beliefs to win a political battle, how can you say you’ve “won” anything.

But then, Honor is an old concept, not in line with Progressive thinking.

Romeo13 on September 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Same thing with these [expletive] trolls. Waste of time; ignore them.

rockhauler on September 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM
You’re right. I should never waste my time with idiots!

newton on September 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Yup. I bet HotAir has had hundreds of new registrations in the past week from desperate Obama supporters (or worse) just looking for a forum to make potty.

I propose that any and all cleary over-the-top troll comments be completely ignored. It will take discipline, but it can be done.

I for one welcome Obama supporters with a real interest to discuss the thread topic. We conservatives will do our best to treat you with respect, provided it is reciprocated.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Major correction – Here’s hoping it won’t burn us later.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Exactly what does this have to do with Sarah Palin being told she should stay home and raise her kids? If you can’t make a good argument you just change the subject I guess.

Some woman are more comfortable letting other people raise their kids(it takes a village…), thevastlane.

How Palin will be judged on this choice is…hard to tell.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Individualism ends where reality begins. Case in point (yuck alert).

baldilocks on September 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Thanks alot…….I just puked a little…..

I know…you warned me…..

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I’m merely pointing out that McCain’s milking of his POW time goes beyond the bounds of what is considered decent behavior in the America…and the military.

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Please provide your military background to be able to speak about “decent behavior” or our soldiers.

BTW, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam? I was shocked to learn this.

Mallard T. Drake on September 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

…oh great. The Situation Room is on. Ah, here we go, topic of the day is the 6+% unemployment rate.

Good thing Obama has a plan to employee 35,000,000 people in this new Civil Service Protection Force or whatever the heck he was talking about.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

I can’t believe these media thugs can keep a straight face when they pretend to be insulted at the suggestion that they’re not objective.

jonezee on September 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

baldilocks on September 5, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Could you explain a little bit more what you are saying, because I want to make sure I understand. I have worked as a mother and stayed home as a mother. Guess for which I was disparaged. I don’t know what other conservatives have thought but I am against anyone pigeon holing me because I don’t do what THEY want me to. I am a little tired of folks talking about the Palin’s five children. Two are adults, one is in the army and the other, ready or not, is starting her own family. She will have three children at home along with a devoted husband and father. I don’t get the problem.

Cindy Munford on September 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

or our soldiers.

For our soldiers.

Mallard T. Drake on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

If you want some great evidence as to how biased the media are (in composition, at least), Google J. B. Williams’ wonderful article: “Exactly How Biased is the American Media?” (Posted on August 21, 2008.)

Here is a brief sample:

The Media Sectors and their to-date 2008 Political Investments
Computer & Internet – $24,255,207 (62% to Democrats)
Books, Magazines & Papers – $12,187,548 (78% to Democrats)
Computer Software – $8,922,053 (61% to Democrats)
Motion Picture Industry – $7,523,136 (88% to Democrats)
Cable & Satellite TV – $6,303,046 (63% to Democrats)
Music Recording Industry – $2,983,755 (79% to Democrats)
Television Production and Distribution – $2,322,587 (86% to Democrats)
These numbers are 2008 total individual and PAC donations coming from the people who make up these media sector industries.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Liberals just have a fit when people don’t fit into their stereotypes.

Hardtack on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Some woman are more comfortable letting other people raise their kids(it takes a village…)

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM

In your case, alice-

it took the Village People.

Eww Zing!

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Romeo13 on September 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM

I’m done with all the “honor” for this season. I’ve seen so much vacuous fluff until now, that all the rules apply, or don’t, now. I don’t care what is real and not any more.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Based on what I’m hearing from female friends and family, I’m wondering whether Palin should clarify her views on birth control. Everyone I’ve been talking to seems to think, based on media reports, that she’s opposed to it, but I don’t believe that’s the case.

Even my lefty girlfriends can understand why a woman would be pro-life, but opposing birth control is something most people associate with the fringe. If Palin is being misrepresented on this issue, she should set the record straight.

Infidoll on September 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Uh oh, Allahpundit has caught Palinmania. Heh, better late than never.

By the way… it’s OK Allah, you’re not in the tank, this is a right-wing blog after all.

Maxx on September 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Sure they are. Now.

? Where?

An incredible non sequitur of a analogy stemming from your own preconceived notions.

Let me break it down then. Women => more emotional. More emotional => react emotionally. Therefore unsafe with weapons? Unsafe with power? Unsafe, etc? We don’t ask questions like that because they are irrelevant. Americans believe in the individual, and the power of the individual will. Women can be tough as nails, but that doesn’t take away from their gentleness. It’s like Rush said, there is a image of conservative men not liking strong women; it’s totally false.

That’s what family is about, an individual unit having the power to decide the best situation for them. For the Palins that means Todd has been at times a stay at home father. I think the criticisms are stupid also because she has taken Trig to work with her and kept her with him.

Even if you want to claim that she shouldn’t ever leave the house without the baby, she’s been taking him. But that, of course, is rank hypocrisy.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM

“It’s a time-honored marketing ploy and, every time they bash the media, it means they’re not talking about a vision or a plan,” CNN president Jon Klein said. “But the best antidote to cynical marketing is solid reporting.”…

That’s an interesting excuse or explanation however you want to look at it. CNN is unabashedly in the tank for Obama: cynical reporting is solid marketing : that’s more like CNN I know.
The media bashing is a result of what we call the transparency of their bias.

But alas, what they report is not news, but opinion.

Kini on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Every time they open their mouths, they step in a pile of BS and THEN stick their foot in their mouths.

PappaMac on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

CNN Situation Room is friggin awesome right now. Live report at a McCain rally with the reporter having to scream to Wolf about what is happening.

Can it really be true, can Mavrick win this thing!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

If I were the real wife you’d have said “you’re right honey, we’ll agree to move on” :)

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Maybe so.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Did your neighbor run for public office? More specifically, for President of the United States? Because if he had, chances are that his time serving our country would be well known by all. Your guy, Obama, spends a lot of time yapping about his community organizing days, and about all the executive experience he’s gotten from campaigning for president. I guess you think that kind of experience is relevant and not embarrassing to all community organizers and campaigners in America?

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Oops, comment got broken up.

“maybe so”…but I doubt it. Especially since we are not just talking about ideas here, but rather labeling other people based on what we presume to know about them. I don’t like it at all. Not on the web, not in real life.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Howard Gutman was Evelyn Mulwray to Laura Ingraham’s Jake bitch slapping him to give a straight answer.

Gutman’s “My sister, My daughter, My sister, My daughter,” inbred responses pivoted from his non-swerving central point: if you are a parent of a special needs child, you must stay home and never show the child in public, ever.

Gutman thought he was so clever, rephrasing his central point without variation, digging his own inbred grave deeper with each of his spiteful responses. Obviously, his intent was to “confuse” the audience, but he was the one sounding confused that America disagrees with him! After all, Michelle summed it up for Obama’s campaign slogan: America is a downright mean country.

Who says? Who makes it mean? DNC

maverick muse on September 5, 2008 at 6:11 PM

BTW, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam? I was shocked to learn this.

Mallard T. Drake on September 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

What?? Who is this Kerry, and why is HE not running for president?

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Can it really be true, can Mavrick win this thing!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Not if CNN and MSNBC have something to say about it.

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 6:09 PM

To be sure, MDS, you wouldn’t have had to say that. I’m not a typical one. Not to worry. All’s good. May the stars remain aligned right into Nov.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Can it really be true, can Mavrick win this thing!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Yes, he can!

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Can it really be true, can Mavrick win this thing!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Not if CNN and MSNBC have something to say about it.

Palin introducing McCain right now in Michigan…it is like an Obama rally circa April 2008. Kind of goosebumpy…I think I know how those zealots felt!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Shouldn’t Palin be home taking care of her kids?

Funny, no one thought to ask that of Obama’s natural father, you know the one who abandoned BHO and his mom when he was a mere toddler.

Did anyone question his grandparents work habits while they toiled to raise him, feed him, house him, school him?

heroyalwhyness on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Yes, he can!

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Si se puede!!

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

You remember Kerry right? He had a super secret plan for Iraq, but he didn’t want to tip his hand to Republicans (on Larry King). Didn’t Obama almost say the same thing in Bill O’s interview?

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Can it really be true, can Mavrick win this thing!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Consider the fact that, THAT very thought is storming through Camp Obama right now.

What’s that tell ya?

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Here is a brief sample:

The Media Sectors and their to-date 2008 Political Investments
Computer & Internet – $24,255,207 (62% to Democrats)
Books, Magazines & Papers – $12,187,548 (78% to Democrats)
Computer Software – $8,922,053 (61% to Democrats)
Motion Picture Industry – $7,523,136 (88% to Democrats)
Cable & Satellite TV – $6,303,046 (63% to Democrats)
Music Recording Industry – $2,983,755 (79% to Democrats)
Television Production and Distribution – $2,322,587 (86% to Democrats)
These numbers are 2008 total individual and PAC donations coming from the people who make up these media sector industries.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Holy crap. It is not even close is it?

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

heroyalwhyness on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

That would be RACIST.

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Sarah Palin didn’t put her daughter on the front page of every newspaper, the freaking media did you butt wipe, with the help of the “f”ing Obama campaign.

PappaMac on September 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Si se puede!!

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Oui, il peut!

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Palin introducing McCain right now in Michigan…it is like an Obama rally circa April 2008. Kind of goosebumpy…I think I know how those zealots felt!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Yep! To the song “Eye of The Tiger”!

Fists are pumpin’…and not a styrofoam Greek column in site!

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Here is a brief sample:

The Media Sectors and their to-date 2008 Political Investments
Computer & Internet – $24,255,207 (62% to Democrats)
Books, Magazines & Papers – $12,187,548 (78% to Democrats)
Computer Software – $8,922,053 (61% to Democrats)
Motion Picture Industry – $7,523,136 (88% to Democrats)
Cable & Satellite TV – $6,303,046 (63% to Democrats)
Music Recording Industry – $2,983,755 (79% to Democrats)
Television Production and Distribution – $2,322,587 (86% to Democrats)
These numbers are 2008 total individual and PAC donations coming from the people who make up these media sector industries.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on September 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Interesting note:

All of these industries make net profit far in excess of the 8.5% of evil oil companies. Why isn’t Obama trying to fund his socialized system with their record profits?

Damiano on September 5, 2008 at 6:18 PM

“YES WE WILL!”

FiveWays on September 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM

….Ha. After Palins introduction, Wolf says she is sticking to what she said earlier. Ya, genius, it is called a stump speech…Geez Louise could this guy have any more snarky (and I think Wolf is one of more fair journalists).

Better hang on Sarah, the boys play rough!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Okay, Liberals and Conservatives. Is the truth relative or is it absolute?

baldilocks on September 5, 2008 at 5:02 PM

You are falling for the sophistry that all conservatives hold the same view on all topics. Just as there are some democrats who remain silent while holding a dissenting view, but remain loyal to the democrat party.

In my case I marvel at my ability to hold two different conflicting views at the same time with this debate being a classic case. As a result, I leave the decision up to the individuals who has to do the work; i.e. Gov Sarah Palin and her husband.

rockhauler on September 5, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

And that’s the difference between you and John McCain.

Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2008 at 6:22 PM

As a result, I leave the decision up to the individuals who has to do the work; i.e. Gov Sarah Palin and her husband.

rockhauler on September 5, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Which is presicely where it belongs, and makes it the more ridiculous for the feminist lefties to calim otherwise.

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Even my lefty girlfriends can understand why a woman would be pro-life, but opposing birth control is something most people associate with the fringe. If Palin is being misrepresented on this issue, she should set the record straight.

Infidoll on September 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Palin is a member of Feminists for Life. Maybe you should take a look. It may well be that the question answers itself.

I honestly don’t think she opposes birth control, but I wouldn’t be surprised she’d rather not choose to use it herself.

newton on September 5, 2008 at 6:23 PM

“Did your neighbor run for public office? More specifically, for President of the United States? Because if he had, chances are that his time serving our country would be well known by all.’

[Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:09 PM]

Right. More right than you know. Alphie’s neighbor was a WWII veteran and the voters then would have known it anyway, everyone except alphie, of course.

WWII vets came home heroes. Everyone one of them. I knew them all on my street, their service, where they fought, and what they did. They didn’t tell me, others did. But it did come up in the Ward paper every Veteran’s day because it was important to us. Papers were papers then, run by real people, not the hack lefty stooges and liars as they are now.

Vietnam vets were spit on by alphie’s side when they came home and are still looked down on as Ghengis Khan’s by his side thanks to the his 2004 Presidential Candidate. It no wonder McCain feels so few know about him. The papers hardly ever cover their heroic service and deeds.

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 6:24 PM

One of the most moving moments I had ever witnessed by a man was when, in front of 40 million people, and tens of thousands of his most ardent supporters. John McCain said, after being severely beaten and tortured, he “telegraphed” the man next door and said “they broke me”.
How hard for a man of such honor, ego, heritage, to know and then admit to all that he was broken. John McCain knows the depths of despair…and he wants none of that for his fellow man. That’s why I disagree with him on immigration, but don’t hold him in contempt. I understand his heart for his fellow man that is downtrodden who wants a better life.
Because of the POW’s the rules of engagement and what you can tell the enemy was forever changed…what a price to pay.

right2bright on September 5, 2008 at 6:24 PM

As I continue watch CNN for some bizarre reason: after the live Palin intro in Michigan, they cut away from McCain for anther story! Ah, probably for the best anyway.

The supreme genius of this pick (as has been pointed out) is that the normal VP role is attack dog, fair enough. But traditionally, the other side Pres candidate is not supposed to engage that same VP candidate. It is absolutely hilarious that Obama is having to fight it out with Palin while McCain looks and sounds presidential.

Also, the only Obama story was some lame ass speech he gave that resulted in some smattering of applause from the crowd, and I am assuming CNN cut the very best applause line to include in the story.

This is so sweet, I have gained 10 pounds since last Friday!

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Who cares what the mainstream media thinks? They are and always have been an enemy of the right and now it’s time to fight them. If they want to report, that’s fine but if they lie, cheat or falsey accuse then there should be an organized assault on them. They can only get away with their biased, slanted garbage as long as they’re allowed to do it. Free speech belongs to every American, not just a large gaggle of journalist majors.

rplat on September 5, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Entelechy on September 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Now in vampire :}

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:26 PM

I posted

You remember Kerry right? He had a super secret plan for Iraq, but he didn’t want to tip his hand to Republicans (on Larry King). Didn’t Obama almost say the same thing in Bill O’s interview?

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Here is Obama not “tipping his hat” with Bill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNAbmt88OHo

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Win at any cost applies to both sides….as it should.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Not as it should, but does you belief it should mean you lied to us about your neighbor?

Dusty on September 5, 2008 at 6:27 PM

its around 2:
40

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:27 PM

ugg i mean 2:40 ;P

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:27 PM

I posted

You remember Kerry right? He had a super secret plan for Iraq, but he didn’t want to tip his hand to Republicans (on Larry King). Didn’t Obama almost say the same thing in Bill O’s interview?
Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Here is Obama not “tipping his hat” with Bill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNAbmt88OHo

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:27 PM

I do not think Obama plan was or is any secret: Leave now regardless of cost.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM

“America has been presented with a total unknown who might be a heartbeat away from the presidency,” Klein said of Palin, “and Americans have every right to expect as much information as possible about this person so that they can make an informed choice. Certainly our critics are in favor of Americans making an informed choice, aren’t they?”

This statement could be made about the democratic nominee, whose not just a heartbeat away from the presidency, but in line for it. And Americans have every right to expect as much info as possible, for instance, the connection between Rezko, and Ayers. We don’t really know much about those particular associations do we? I know Obama dropped out of his church of 20 years and threw his pastor and mentor of 20 yrs under the bus, but that was more than just an association. That relationship should have been the end of his campaign and wasn’t. I’m not sure Americans really understand where Obama is coming from in relation to his pastor and church and oh, yeah, don’t forget Luis Farrakon. I personally would like to have that relationship probed with the same intensity as Sarah Palin and her family has been.

4shoes on September 5, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Vietnam vets were spit on by alphie’s side when they came home…

A phony story invented by Vietnam vets to milk even more attention for their losing effort, Dusty.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM

He’s not giving talking points…lmao. OMG.

“Getting rid of ‘it’ ” Z’OMG.

SouthernGent on September 5, 2008 at 6:32 PM

I do not think Obama plan was or is any secret: Leave now regardless of cost.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM

but this time it was Iran. Agreed on your Iraq point though.

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Can we pull off a McCain/Palin victory in November?

Yes, we can!

“Да, мы можем!”

“Ja können wir!”

“Sì, possiamo!”

“はい、私たちはそうすることができます!”

“Ja kan vi !”

coldwarrior on September 5, 2008 at 6:33 PM

…oh great. The Situation Room is on. Ah, here we go, topic of the day is the 6+% unemployment rate.

Good thing Obama has a plan to employee 35,000,000 people in this new Civil Service Protection Force or whatever the heck he was talking about.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

What we need to point out to others is that our country was doing just fine until the Democrats took control of congress in 2006. Since then gas has jumped up about two bucks and employment has fallen off about one percent. So much for their new ideas and management skills.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on September 5, 2008 at 6:34 PM

A phony story invented by Vietnam vets to milk even more attention for their losing effort, Dusty.

OK, I have had enough. Whoever you are, you need to get some serious psychological help. You are a sad human being. I truely hope that you are just a kid, so that you do grow up and WISE up long enough to feel ashamed by the warped thoughts expressed above.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Ae, hiki no kakou!

Kini on September 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM

guess this is why John Edwards dropped out of the race when Elizabeth’s cancer returned. To take care of her and the kids.

Oh, wait. That’s not what happened.

Laura on September 5, 2008 at 4:48 PM

To take care of her Rielle Hunter and the kids their bastard child.

Wade on September 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM

I am now accepting bets as to when the Obama campaign will say “Shouldn’t she be home baking something?”

Glenn Jericho on September 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM

Palin better not be a figure head in this administration. In several weeks, as things play out McCain should start outlining what she is going to be doing. His chance of being president is in her hands…

right2bright on September 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM

Could you explain a little bit more what you are saying, because I want to make sure I understand. I have worked as a mother and stayed home as a mother. Guess for which I was disparaged. I don’t know what other conservatives have thought but I am against anyone pigeon holing me because I don’t do what THEY want me to.

You did what you thought was right for your family as the Palins probably did. What I’m not saying is that everyone who has kids and who doesn’t have the traditional set up in their home is hypocritical. Hey, we all make choices. Reality happens and you pat yourself on the back for that choice or you have to make the best of the results of that choice.

What I’m saying is that when a person changes beliefs, he/she should change them because of new evidence–not because of who is doing the criticizing. And what I’m saying is that mothers and fathers have different roles–especially when it comes to parenting teenaged girls–and that it’s hypocritical to pretend that they don’t or that conservatives haven’t been saying for decades that they don’t.

And I’m warning folks not to fall into the manner of thinking that the liberal practitioners of the Unconstrained Vision use…to change beliefs when it suits our purposes aka flip-floping.

BHO: “As I’ve always said [insert two-faced pronouncement here].”

baldilocks on September 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM

I am now accepting bets as to when the Obama campaign will say “Shouldn’t she be home baking something?”

Glenn Jericho on September 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM

sounds like a perfect opportunity for Biden…

Ozprey on September 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM

I am now accepting bets as to when the Obama campaign will say “Shouldn’t she be home baking something?”

Glenn Jericho on September 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM

More like, “Joe Biden, because of personal reasons will have to leave the campaign”…

right2bright on September 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM

A phony story invented by Vietnam vets to milk even more attention for their losing effort, Dusty.

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM

You’re on a roll now. Who are your heroes? Those brave folks at Code Pink? People that bash America for being all that’s wrong in the world?

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM

I am now accepting bets as to when the Obama campaign will say “Shouldn’t she be home baking something?”

The fact is that there is such panic and hatred for this woman (Palin) right now, I really believe it is just a matter of time when a very high level Obama official makes a slip either open mike or something like that. Who knows what he or she will say, but it will be vicious.

Waterboy on September 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM

alphie on September 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM –

You pathetic little piece of s***!

coldwarrior on September 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Maybe Todd Palin and Jill Biden can each publish their favorite Moose Burger recipies!

Mallard T. Drake on September 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM

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