The plaintive wail from Team Obama
posted at 8:08 am on September 4, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Ever since signing up for Barack Obama’s magic text message announcing his running mate — in the middle of the night — I’ve been plagued by e-mails on a daily basis. It gives one a good look at the workings of the campaign and how they use events for fundraising, the real purpose of the gimmicky announcement mechanism. Today, the campaign sent out an appeal based on the fact that Sarah Palin kicked Barack Obama’s rear end in her speech last night, after having it tenderized by Rudy Giuliani first.
Let’s step through a few of the passages from David Plouffe:
I wasn’t planning on sending you something tonight. But if you saw what I saw from the Republican convention, you know that it demands a response.
In other words, the Obama campaign will fall into the trap of having the top of its ticket get into a debate with the bottom of the GOP ticket.
I saw John McCain’s attack squad of negative, cynical politicians. They lied about Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and they attacked you for being a part of this campaign.
In other words … Mom! Mom! Sister hit me back! After constantly referring to the governor as the “mayor of Wasilly“, Obama has no room to talk about negative and cynical.
Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack’s experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed. …
Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.
Well, no, they mocked the notion that that experience somehow trumps being a mayor. You see, mayors get held accountable for their policies and their ability to remain in touch. Palin managed to do so well that she got re-elected, and then elected Governor.
By the way, which of the two has actually risked their career to reform the system to kick out-of-touch politicians out of the system? Barack Obama played along with the Daley machine in Chicago. Palin fought her own party to end corruption in Alaska. Which one is the friend of out-of-touch politicians?
It’s now clear that John McCain’s campaign has decided that desperate lies and personal attacks — on Barack Obama and on you — are the only way they can earn a third term for the Bush policies that McCain has supported more than 90 percent of the time.
You know, it’s funny, but nowhere in this e-mail does Plouffe (or his flunky who wrote this, more likely) ever actually identify a single lie in either speech last night. They complain about Giuliani and Palin making fun of Obama, which they certainly did, but never do they refute one factual statement they made. Plouffe et al just like calling Palin a liar — while their allies keep spinning myths about her political affiliation, the maternity of her last child, her marital fidelity, and her ability to manage her family.
Mom! Mom! Sister hit me back … and she hits too hard for a girl!
Update: Andrew Malcolm has a good post on the Palin speech, and the entire text of it. See if you can find any lies. The only thing I find is a pretty good diagnosis of Obamamania.
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Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.Community organizing is how ordinary people like Obama get to rub elbows with politicians and make contacts for future state senate runs
Community organizing is how people who can’t get elected shake down out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies; see Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al.
saint kansas on September 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM
This is a delightful example of Leftist PROJECTION.
Witness the attacks, smears – call them what you will – of the days since the Palin selection, and what comes of it in the Palin acceptance speech? Merely substance trumping style.
It was not only fair to scorn “those Styrofoam Greek columns [being] hauled back to some studio lot” but an excellent metaphor for the entire Obama candidacy.
IF THE SHOE FITS…
Lockstein13 on September 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM
As opposed to all you intellectual giants on the Left, who routinely refute every point made by your opponents by accusing them of being racists?
AZCoyote on September 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Jinx – you owe me a beer.
Candy Slice on September 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM
And HEY!
That Styrofoam Greek Column jab was a LOW BLOW to Stryofoam Greek “Choosen One’s” everywhere!
Bastards!
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM
You’ve probably spent your life living in neighborhoods that don’t need to be organized by outsiders before anything can be accomplished.
MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Nope. Not a one in sight. Just a mayor named Sarah Palin.
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Ahh, so you mock community organizing,
Guilty as charged, especially the Chicago version. I’m not going to cry about a bunch of demagogues being outed as useless race-pimps.
Fifty million dollars from the Annenberg Community Challenge controlled by Barack the Community Organizer, and the neighborhood he “organized” is in worse shape than when he started.
Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Well…..if the ‘gina fits……….
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Heh…none here either.
Where I’m from we have Churches and outreach ministries for that sort of thing.
Maybe if Churches in Chicago spent more time doing Godly works and less time Goddamning America with J. Wright and Ice Ice Friar there would be no need for pro busy bodies eh?
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Obama belittled Palin’s Chief Executive experience, specifically neglecting to mention her two years as GOVERNOR of America’s largest state, strategically located on the Bering Strait 50 miles from Russia, Alaskan National Guard carrying on a most significant contribution to our national defense, containing America’s richest oil reserves and vast natural resources, and Palin’s successful reforms saving huge sums of private citizen tax dollars from exploitation, and balancing a state budget that oversees a multi-billion dollar industry.
Barack Nada Obama is a drone and dreg on society.
maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Ditto. Finally exposed for the cockroaches that they are.
BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Point is you all took a giant dump on community organizing for months before Palin came a long. Now that you realize all the millions of good Americans who do community organizing might be insulted by your elitist pat on their heads, you back pedal and make the debate about her mayorship vs his community organizing. Textbook backpedaling.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM
I prayed all day for Sarah to rise to the occasion and deliver a great speech.
It was superb, delivered with poise, grace and wit.
I couldn’t sleep all night I was so excited at the end.
We will win in November.
McCain/Palin 2008 all the way. Lets pull some coattails in House and Senate as well.
txdoc on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM
heh heh! You forgot to add, Sarah’s effectively put BO in the slow cooker. Moms all over the country love their crock pots.
bloggless on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Sweet Sarah Palin
She’s not Obama’s bitch
She swung for the flagpole
And connected on the first pitch.
Burma Shave
Doc Rochester on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
How many votes did Biden get in the New Hampshire primary for President again? Oh that’s right, 638.
Next.
fossten on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Considering all this is going on in the Democratic mecca of Chicago I am at a loss as to how politicians “can be out of touch”….
Bueller, Bueller?
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
I’ve been trying since Friday to come up with some Chuck Norris comment. The best I’ve got is that “Palin is Norris in a dress,” but that really doesn’t do her justice. Maybe something like “in his next life, Chuck wants to come back as Sarah,” but that’s still not quite right. Any thoughts out there?
ncc770 on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
BREAKING NEWS:
In a protest response to Palin’s racist smear of “community organizers”- Barry Hussein Obama just burnt his bra…..STILL DEVELOPING…….
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Obamas rebuttal:
Ah,I’m ah,um deeply offended ah,um,by this attack,um ah
how should I say this ah,um,ah,um,or put this,um,ah,um,
a community ah um,organizer is ah,um how can I um ah,
explain ah the um pain of this ah um……….(Snark!)hehe.
canopfor on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM
WHAAAAAAAA! MOMMY MOMMY! THAT LADY CALLED ME A BAD NAME AND HURT MY WITTLE FEELINGS! WHAAAAAAAAAA! (sob….weep…weep…sniff* sniff*) WHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
Thanks for proving my point…
You had no idea what Palin would say, or what she was like, and you chose not to watch, because you don’t form your own opinions.
Had other plans. Probably would have watched her, otherwise. What exactly make you think I don’t form my own opinions?
Tom,explain to me how Sarah Palin’s comment
about “community organizer”is a racist state
ment?
Not really sure where this comes from?
If you want to criticize the speech, maybe you should watch it.
I didn’t criticize the speech. In fact, you’ll that I wrote it seems like she did a good job. I criticized the line, which I did see a clip of.
Tom_Shipley on September 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Sarah Palini started out as a community organizer. She was president of the P.T.A.! Tenderize much?
bloggless on September 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM
No the debate has always been about the idiocy of a person citing “I was a community organizer damnit!” as a serious criterion for higher office.
Sarah Palin is a governor, she was a mayor…she did not worry about whether or not the local crackhead got to keep their power on for free she worried about whether or not the entire community would get municipal services….that you can’t see the “nuance” and allowed your guy to play the “wasilly” card is your problem not mine.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Yes. F**K Chuck – he was a stooge of Huck. He’s yesterday’s news.
From this point going forward it’s Sarah’cuda – the Arctic Fox
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Someone tell Barry, it’s time to get out the LIPSTICK. Might I suggest “commie pink”?
bloggless on September 4, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Point is you all took a giant dump on community organizing for months before Palin came a long. Now that you realize all the millions of good Americans who do community organizing might be insulted by your elitist pat on their heads, you back pedal and make the debate about her mayorship vs his community organizing. Textbook backpedaling.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM
txdoc on September 4, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Chuck Norris thought Bruce Lee was the toughest opponent he had ever faced.
And then Chuck met The Palinator…….
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:00 AM
What’s a low blow matter matter when Jesse cut his nuts out anyway?!
Akzed on September 4, 2008 at 9:01 AM
As a person who has done community organizing work (it’s been a few years admittedly), Mr. Rywall, I am not insulted. I fully agree with what the vast majority of commentors here are saying: being a community organizer is not comprable to being a mayor. Period.
Anna on September 4, 2008 at 9:01 AM
Somebody tell Team BO to quit whining, and they might want to put on a helmet… a cup or something. Jeez, sack up.
Chicost84 on September 4, 2008 at 9:01 AM
Here Tommy……here’s a hanky…..now blow……
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:01 AM
If “community organziers” want to engage in 93% block voting they reap what they sow end of story. Sarah Palin has 25,000 or so employees that report TO HER. Barry had a kid go buy donuts.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:01 AM
I get those emails too.
They are comic relief.
TheSitRep on September 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM
MILLIONS?! That is for to laugh. You mean – at most – a few thousand, if that. And most, if not all, of them are Democrat party hacks and operatives. Give it up, gypsum board…you are on the losing end of the argument.
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM
I did see that. What I’m saying is that it wasn’t a blistering attack on community organizers, so much as a comment on experience. She delivered it in a bemused, almost sarcastic way. In the context of speech/delivery, it’s brilliant.
Spirit of 1776 on September 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM
Obama is nothing but an articulate Al Sharpton, without the weight problem, bad hair, bad teeth, and bad breath.
He was part of a voter fraud organization called ACORN.
He was handed his Senate seat on a silver platter where democrats are a 10-1 majority. He had no opposition at all.
roninacreage on September 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM
At least she won her election by actually beating her opponent, instead of using the courts to get them kicked off the ballot.
For what it’s worth, in a “tiny town” to use your condescending phrase, winning by 600 votes is a landslide.
Bush won Florida by only a few dozen votes.
MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM
More Chuck Liddell than Chuck Norris. Now I know what they mean by “fire and nice.” That speech was the rhetorical equivalent of a UFC fight, and that’s one bloody mat Obama needs to clean up.
Disturb the Universe on September 4, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Though after the Duke case, and Sharpton/Jackson various histories, I don’t think that is ground Obama wants to fight on anyway.
Spirit of 1776 on September 4, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Actually Barry needs a pair of steel-belted panties.
…just sayin’…….
…..as Tommy weeps……..
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:03 AM
How desperate are the lefty scum???
Drudge has linked to a Boston Globe “story” claiming a Boston “hairstylist” says Sarah-cuda’s hairstyle is “20 years out of date”… and that may indicate her position on domestic issues as well.
I LOVE THE SMELL OF FEAR IN THE MORNING !!!!
Always Right on September 4, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Yep. A “community organizer” is neither a charity worker nor a social worket. A “community organizer” isn’t about serving food in soup lines. Far from being motivated by altruism, a “community organizer” agitates local people for his/her own political purposes, putting them into the service of his/her own political objectives, a la Saul Alinsky. It’s using the people whom you ask to look to you for help to leverage political pressure for your own purposes. It’s all done under the guise of altruism, however hypocritical that may be.
It wasn’t more than a few years ago that, if you were a “community organizer”, you were embarrassed in most circles to describe yourself that way, as it connoted you were a politically ambitious, rabble-rousing n’er-do-well. So normally you used other words to describe what you did.
The assertion that being a “community organizer” is favorable experience for becoming President is ludicrous. It insults the intelligence of everyday folks. It begs for every bit of the mockery and ridicule it might get.
petefrt on September 4, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Barrack The Magic Negro……
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:04 AM
The community organizer
linewasdid a lot oflowblow,I fixed that.
bloggless on September 4, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Senator Obama will not be available today. He’s at the dry cleaners getting the lipstick removed.
Loxodonta on September 4, 2008 at 9:05 AM
If all you’ve got is Sarah’s hair donks maybe you can explain why Barack “Denzel” O’bama is looking older than Morgan Freeman of late?
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Bitter bible holding gun clingers
typical white woman
“avergae white voter”
Yeah Barry sure is a uniter.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Keep the reports from Team Obambi coming, Ed.
I love the way they try to get the base excited by telling them they’ve been insulted too! I’m kinda surprised that Team Barry didn’t promise to outlaw this sort of “hate speech”.
Not only can they not point to a single lie, but they still can’t point to an actual accomplishment from the community organizer on a personal journey.
Buy Danish on September 4, 2008 at 9:06 AM
I hope McCain really DIDN’T vet Palin:
JUDGEMENT!
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Hear, hear! And worth repeating, in part:
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM
jesse jackson is a community organizer. They shake down businesses to enrich themselves. barry is a minor league jesse jackson, that’s why jackson hates him. jackson thinks barry hasn’t earned his cred.
peacenprosperity on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM
mock, ridicule, disparage, insult, condescend …
The whole gamut.
MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Eh..I was waiting for the fashion mavens to come down on Gov. Palin. I thought she was almost deliciously anti-fashion last night. No fancy hairdo, no expensive clown-colored suit, no silly jewelry. She dressed and looked like a real executive woman looks. Millions of women watching could see that immediately.
rockmom on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Obama, the closet organizer, can’t allow the spotlight on his own ZERO experience.
Obama has a long and intricate record stealing tax dollars appropriated for the indigent and needy elderly citizens. Obama had the gall to bring up Matthew @ Saddleback Church, “In as much as you do it to the least of these my brethren, you do it unto me.” Not only has Obama failed to help his indigent Kenyan DIRECT relations whom he writes of so fondly, Obama STEALS from the starving and the homeless and helpless old folks in Chicago, LEAVING THEM OUT ON THE STREETS TO DIE IN THE WINDY CITY.
Not to be outdone by himself, Obama succeeded in misappropriating EDUCATIONAL GRANTS FOR CHILDREN from reaching the children, diverted into his own and his Board Member’s pockets. Therein, offending one of these “little ones” he left in ignorance to grow a warped existence, Obama consigns himself metaphorically to wearing the millstone and sleeping with the fish.
maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Ok. She’s got one cut up, wrapped and in the freezer.
Another on the ground, gutted and ready to drag out.
All that between baking the morning bread and signing an appropriations veto.
Looking around, while wiping the tallow off of her skinning knife, she beguilingly smiled and said “NEXT”.
No small wonder the Dems are in a cold sweat this morning.
Yoop on September 4, 2008 at 9:08 AM
But…but…but…he sounds so……Black Southern Baptist Preacher-like when he spews those empty platitudes!
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Obama is a gelded donkey.
We won’t need to worry about the Iranians or Al Qaeda if this metrosexual poof takes office. The Mexican drug gangs will make short work of this balless jackass.
NoDonkey on September 4, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Governor Palin is a fashion plate. A real woman’s fashion plate. Great hair, great figure, great class, great sense of style. She embodies what every woman would like to be.
bloggless on September 4, 2008 at 9:09 AM
There are seriously MILLIONS of community organizers? Shouldn’t these communities be organized by now? Seriously WHAT do they do – that we need MILLIONS of them? And seriously – whose payrolling these MILLIONS?
Candy Slice on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
A perfect image.
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
BTW, I am not a professional hairstylist,
but Sarah’s hair looks just fine to me!!!
Always Right on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Community Organizer= Hey can we sign you up and
register you as a Democrat,oh you don’t have any
id,and your in the country illegally,well,h#ll,
thats what were here for,to use you for are very
own interests and keep you down as a victim,by
the Evil Neocon rightwingers,hey,would you like
a nice cup of Liberal Koolaid!!!(Snark)haha.
canopfor on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
He loads all the Southside Chicago welfare recipients and illegal aliens onto the buses and gets them down to their polling places so that they can vote themselves some more entitlements.
It was even worse than that, Bishop. Obama and Ayers received $160 Million from Annenberg. (The first grant was $50 Million, then they applied for and received two more grants of $110 Million — for a total of $160 Million).
Obama spent the money paying for things like Juneteenth parties (Juneteenth is a holiday celebrating the emancipation of some slaves), while at the same time refusing to pay for programs to improve math and science skills.
An independent study found that, despite spending $160 Million, Obama managed to make zero improvement in the quality of education in Chicago public schools.
AZCoyote on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
NOW IT’S OFFICIAL : Hairstyle Wars
…I only hope Joe’s implants count, otherwise he’s got some ’splainin’ to do…
Lockstein13 on September 4, 2008 at 9:11 AM
Now you yahoos are claiming that in a country of 300 million people there are only a few thousand community organizers.
The glue you’re sniffing is quite strong.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 9:11 AM
They ‘work” in major Metro areas….areas not by conincidence that tilt heavyily donk….
Question: If donk policy is so great at aiding the poor and fixing problems why isn’t N’walins a veritable Babylon of wealth and power it has plenty of legacy donk rule and plenty of community organzing?
Answer:???
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Sarah can easily change her hairstyle, but what is poor Barry to do?
FTR, Sarah woud look great with any hairstyle.
fogw on September 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM
“Community organizer” is a role described by Obama (and Hillary) idol Saul Alinsky, who described how an outside organizer could enter a community, listen closely to discover the real or imagined community grievences, and then, after recruiting the local power brokers (including the church), build a local power base and subsequently leverage that to ultimately consolidate all power. That’s the Alinsky “system”. Obama has spent his adult life following the playbook nearly perfectly.
bofh on September 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Team Obama sent out the panicked fund raising email last night because their focus group loved the speech. They fear being perceived as losers. And they especially fear the loss of support (financial) that will happen if John McCain does as an effective job as Sarah Palin did last night.
meci on September 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM
The new HairStyle craze sweeping America:
The SarahDo
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM
“millions” Drywall
You are claiming at a minimum that 1 our of every 150 people is a self-proclaimed and recognized “community organzier” and don’t try the “well um uh yeah PTA and such”…..
you guys rejected her experience and her story and she has been active in that sense since she had kids so YOU rejected “community organizing” if that’s the case….
barry just got stuffed by a 5′2″ point guard chum.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Can somebody explain the line the Democrats use:
“McCain has supported Bush more than 90 percent of the time.”
How do they come up with that?
Bush does not vote on things in the Senate – he either signs the legislation or doesn’t or vetoes it.
Where is this ranking of Senators and how much they support Bush? What is Obama’s and Biden’s official ranking on how much he has supported Bush?
albill on September 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Ok, what did Obama accomplish as a community organizer? Community organizing comprises the bulk of Obama’s resume (under “work experience”), what does Chicago have to show for it?
RightOFLeft on September 4, 2008 at 9:16 AM
Oh, and as far as the criticism that she only won 600-something votes to be mayor: the fact is that she probably personally knows almost all of theose 600 people, and if she had screwed up they would have been in her kitchen demanding action. Small town mayors are ACCOUNTABLE because everyone knows them. It’s a pretty good place to launch a political career. There are dozens of men and women in Congress who started out as small town mayors.
Barack Obama’s service as a community organizer would not be so subject to ridicule if it were the case that he built a following in the job and rode that into the State Senate. Instead, he befriended a handful of powerful WHITE PEOPLE in the liberal salons of Chicago, and then used street-thug tactics to disqualify his opponents from the ballot. He could have been a gas station attendant for 3 years and done the same thing.
rockmom on September 4, 2008 at 9:16 AM
I didn’t notice Barry fixing much of anything while siphoning millions to the “right people”
Annenburg-Community Organizing America can do without….
I’m Colonel Tigh and the schoolteacher and I support this message.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:16 AM
I found many lies in Obama’s speech. If there were none in Palin’s, then that really sucks for Obama.
Seixon on September 4, 2008 at 9:17 AM
This simply exposes the entirety of the liberal ponzi game they’ve been playing on the very same people they claim to be serving.
Obama at the three-card Monte table on the street corner on MIchigan Avenue…yep, that’s organizing the community.
coldwarrior on September 4, 2008 at 9:17 AM
There should be a community organization that helps stupid people remove their party blinders.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM
When does Allah finally slouch out of bed and serve up a big ole’ steamy-pile of “all that’s wrong with this Palin broad”?
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM
And the Kool-Aid you’ve been drinking is pretty potent, gypsum board. Whether there are thousands or millions of “community organizers” is unimportant and tangential. Fact is that they are nothing more than party hacks and operatives. This is certainly the case in Chicago, per AZCoyote on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM above.
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM
Palin was tremendous last night. She can hang Obama’s San Francisco remarks around his neck and make that loser wear them until November 4. Obama will pay for those remarks for the rest of the campaign. People HATE to hear about stuff you say about them behind their backs.
Someone on Morning Joe also made a good point (if it has been made) that Palin reached out to relatives of special needs people which is a group that crosses all ideological lines. They are very activist.
This woman has no downsides.
Rudy was great too. Rudy was like a high school dissecting a frog in lab class.
BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Reminds me of the story of Winston Churchill who was approached by Lady Astor after he had consumed quite a few brandys.
She said, “Mr. Churchill, you are drunk.”
He replied, “Madame, you are ugly. You are very ugly. Tomorrow I shall be sober.”
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:21 AM
There is it is called Log Cabin Republicans and Lincoln Republicans….
you ought to go.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Since Obama has never explained how he has come up with the numbers, all answers are guesses.
The only way you can come close to this 90% number is by looking at all votes taken in the Senate and assuming that anytime McCain voted with the majority of Republicans, he was voting the way Bush wanted him to.
The problem with this method is that the vast majority of senate votes are on symbolic or procedural issues.
That is, they are approving a resolution to honor National Broccoli month, or they are voting to adjurn for the day.
When counted this way, Obama voted with Bush over 80% of the time.
MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 9:22 AM
We tried, but the Republican party just can’t gain any traction in the big cities.
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Obama would like us to think that his being a “community organizer” is evidence of his altruism (if not his presidential experience).
Almost by definition. a “community organizer” is a political activist who lives off the backs of his constituency, who are of course the very people whom he purports to help.
Let’s not be fooled, Mother Theresa was an altruist. But Saul Alinsky was a “community organizer”.
petefrt on September 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Cats are sleeping with dogs. Mika B. seems to advocating for Palin to some tool of a Democratic woman politician. Talking points.
BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM
I have never seen drywall write something so glaringly self referential before.
MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Fixed.
fossten on September 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Fact is that they are nothing more than party hacks and operatives.
ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM
———-
Yeah those Rotary Club as*holes, they’re such hacks. And the Shriners too. Oh, and the United Way and the Food Bank. Those as*holes are a bunch of hacks.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Wow, that was lame.
fossten on September 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM
canopfor on September 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Community Organizer= Hey can we sign you up and
register you as a Democrat,oh you don’t have any
id,and your in the country illegally,well,h#ll, you can use Tony Rezko’s address while he’s visiting another residence.
Fixed!
Rovin on September 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM
BTW, Catholics with bumper stickers “I love being Catholic” stuck beside “American for Obama” display schizophrenic confusion.
I heard a veteran hyping yesterday that McCain SAID that he was going to re-institute the draft and start a war against Iran. I let the vet’s first statement go. But as no one rebutted him, he went on and on. To which I told him, “That’s not what McCain said.” When he turned to look at his opponent, he stopped short. It doesn’t take a bully or a pit bull to just say no to a lie being spread in public.
First, Iran is going to do what Iran does, regardless of hell or high water. It is Islam’s nature to advance Islam without regard for their conceived infidels, submissive or not.
Any “all out WWIII” is something that McCain will do his utmost to prevent. Should terrorists, Iran and/or Russia, China and Korea begin WWIII attacking the USA, there is no alternative but to defend our security.
I knew Fred Thompson’s speeches regarding building up the military in order to protect the USA. But NO Republican POTUS candidate has been or is promoting the draft.
A quick GOOGLE substantiated what I already knew:
McCain’s record AGAINST instituting the draft is based on three points well noted in Townhall discussions online.
1. Volunteer enlistment has its ideological strengths.
2. There is no way to enforce a “fair” draft; rich kids will always get off the hook.
3. Historically, draft durations don’t meet the expenses of military training, now extremely high tech. The military could not afford the draft.
The little old lady complaining about Albuquerque’s Veterans Hospital simply chewed on McCain’s ear, and he let her know that he understood her complaints. Her dramatization in her final breath was not McCain’s call to re-institute the draft. But why would the ubertards ever let the truth get in the way of their whole cloth stories?
maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Excuse me, but where did anybody anywhere start calling community organizers “as*holes?” Can you say straw man?
fossten on September 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM
I doubt they’d be able to help you, Rywall, as your blinders appear to be attached with Super Glue.
Surgery may be required.
AZCoyote on September 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM
I think ABarry knew precisely who and what she was talking about. Rotarians are not vote peddling racial grievance hustlers….
Not a single rotarian I know preens as though they were really a mayor….well except the mayor but I digress.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Thank you – I think that is a succinct yet quite descriptive way of putting it.
Candy Slice on September 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM
The best thing they could do for their communities is get a job so they can afford to start seeing a qualified mental health practitioner.
peacenprosperity on September 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM
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