Republican convention, night four: Some guy to speak, denying us a double dip of Palinmania; Update: Or will he?
posted at 7:32 pm on September 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The line-up’s noticeably weaker than last night’s, consisting mainly of the host governor plus McCain’s inner circle/cronies: Mel Martinez and Pawlenty in the eight o’clock hour, Grahamnesty and Ridge at nine, then Maverick at 10. Totally disinterested after last night’s blowout? Don’t be. Remember, something like 70 percent of the public says the VP choice is irrelevant. If there are votes to be swung, tonight’s speech may well do more to swing them than Palin’s did.
If you missed Ed’s post about the contrast with Obama’s speech that they’re trying to draw through the staging, here it is. “There will be no negativity,” says Mark Salter, apparently not taking Limbaugh’s advice to have McCain come out and say, “I’m looking forward to working with Democrats in November — those that are left, anyway.” (Follow the link for video of that during his appearance on Neil Cavuto today.) Instead, they’re going to emphasize … change. Exit quotation from Spengler’s cynical optimism about McCain’s chances:
Obama will spend the rest of his life wondering why he rejected the obvious road to victory, that is, choosing Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential nominee. However reluctantly, Clinton would have had to accept. McCain’s choice of vice presidential candidate made obvious after the fact what the party professionals felt in their fingertips at the stadium extravaganza yesterday: rejecting Clinton in favor of the colorless, unpopular, tangle-tongued Washington perennial Joe Biden was a statement of weakness. McCain’s selection was a statement of strength. America’s voters will forgive many things in a politician, including sexual misconduct, but they will not forgive weakness.
That is why McCain will win in November, and by a landslide, barring some unforeseen event. Obama is the most talented and persuasive politician of his generation, the intellectual superior of all his competitors, but a fatally insecure personality. American voters are not intellectual, but they are shrewd, like animals. They can smell insecurity, and the convention stank of it. Obama’s prospective defeat is entirely of its own making.
Update (Ed): We may indeed get a second dose of Palinmania, although indirectly. Word is that the GOP will play the bio video that got scratched last night when Rudy Giuliani’s speech ran too long.
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Ann Curry not loking happy…I love watchin gliberals cry
LordMaximus on September 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Can someone tell me what expertise Obama has in economics? Has anyone seen his tax returns? This guy didn’t own a stock until 2005, and didn’t have any interest income in 2004? WTF?
I wouldn’t let Obama run a lemonade stand.
BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Krauthammer is so smart.
SouthernGent on September 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
The MSM is looking at the same polls we are showing people overwhelmingly think they are in the tank for BO.
Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Yes, I just saw that. Fox is getting unbalanced IMHO.
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Eating her way thru the prison wall as we speak.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Get him a copy of Loose Change and Red Bull, stat!
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Maybe their management told them the histrionics of late were way too much
clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
He’s earned the right to play whatever damned song he likes.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
——-
I don’t think playing songs from draft dodgers will poll well but hey, knock yourself out.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Krauthammer agreed with me (must have been following this thread) about MAC going after Independents in this speech.
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Who was the crazy person that ran down the aisle?
Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Until I got here I thought it was Rywall, so I guess it must have been Thing (aka alphie).
Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
How can they?
They have a binary math problem and the answer ain’t gonna be pretty for Barry.
1) they can stay in the tank as McCain gains momentum undermining their long-term viability as percieved pros
2) they can back off and reduce pressure as little as they dare and try to salvage credibility as/IF McCain grows….
Barry is running out of cash…he spends a lot and gets little result for his buck really….well unless you factor in that he has in essence bought his nomination with other folks’ money
McCain has been running a rather guerilla campaign to this point….
I think McCain is about to surge….funds, and tension say so.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I’m really getting tired of Sourkraut and Mortified Kondrake these two are sooo inside the beltway they can’t see their nose in front of their faces.
We don’t want more 9% approval congress we want outsiders, reformers, citizens, term limits!
Get rid of the fossils and carreerists!
dhunter on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
The crowd was trying to drown out the crazy person (Code Pink) ravings.
baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Dave Rywall must be from Newfoundland,umm,
thats like Vermont!!!
And Heart are American’s,who settled in Vancouver,Canada
before they made it big,that means,Dave,the Dork comment
should be recinded,like an apology,eh!
canopfor on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
I don’t think playing songs from draft dodgers will poll well but hey, knock yourself out.
Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Biden was in a band along with Clinton? Cool, maybe I will vote for him after all.
Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Not Rywall. He was the one on the Zamboni.
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
moveon.org baby….
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
even the MSNBC floor reporter-guy (Ron Allen?) is being unusually … um. Positive?
Dude.
Olbermann IS being decent. So far.
Kinda’ scary. Take the demon out of him, and he might not be so bad (ala SportsCenter).
yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
1. Wolfson had nothing against Palin’s speech; he needed to get back some lefty cred;
2. Wallace called him on McCain taking the GOP to task in general;
3. Wolfson had nothing
Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Just remember … if McCain wins Sarah Palin gets to be VP!!
Illinidiva on September 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I enjoy your blog baldilocks
clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Was that Penn Gillette of Penn & Teller I saw in the crowd?
pseudonominus on September 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I don’t think many people know or care, but knock yourself out. Really. Knock yourself out.
Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Need a club, Karl?
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I actually just read that Obama raised $10 million from Palin’s speech last night… “she hurt me, give me money! wawawa!”
El_Terrible on September 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
is brit like 100 years old? he’s complaining about the loud campaign music.
anna on September 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Toobin: “Worst speech by a nominee since Jimmy Carter..I found it shockingly bad.”
LordMaximus on September 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Mac is going to draw in independents because he mentioned corruption in both parties (as he should have) instead of blaming the other side as Obama did; that was a strong move.
Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Jeffrey Toobin is calling it the worst speech by a presidential candidate……what a boob.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
No, Dave does.
Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
sorry to step on toes, lord.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Did he pull in enough to make some more Greek columns?
He needs to compensate again.
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Yeah, wanna help you out, karl. hit him hard.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Thanks. :-)
baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
What’s a toobin?
clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Yes, Dave, seriously knock yourself out.
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Hope Allah posts video of the code pink’ers – I missed that.
gxpgxp on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Clip of unusual activity in the MSNBC booth prior to tonight’s RNC events and speeches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enKnbMLNiiA
D2Boston on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
toobin=ooze from tingle’s leg.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
CNN Online is panning the speech, but the comments are pure boilerplate.
time will tell. I liked it.
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
at the rate of monetary consumption Barry goes through about 8 million a week….
Ammericanthinker says there are rumors he regrets not going public now….
this means in essence that unless he keeps getting easy donations at some point barnstorming will either take a backseat or not….if Barry is doing the fundraiser we get to see “Smokin’ Joe Biden” doing the barnstorming….
yeah good luck Joe
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Yup. He’s credible on that, whether we liked it at the time or not.
Maquis on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Just got back from “Back to School Night” after my son had his first two weeks in kindergarten…………….
…………… so what did I miss, besides the drinking game?
Seven Percent Solution on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Dave is a Canadian? My God don’t they have their own politicians he can piss and moan about? I know I don’t go on Canadian blogs and tell Canucks who to vote for. But then again.
Being a Canadian must be really boring if you have to harass Americans about politics.
Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
I actually found the speech sort of inspiring. He’s no Sarah Palin but I felt his authenticity showed. The ’serve a cause greater than your own self-interest’ line was something I needed to hear. After tonight I feel a bit better about voting for McCain instead of just against Obama.
scotch amy on September 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
You’re 7 shots behind, seven.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Heh.
yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
The crowd stepped all over that speech. Too amped up I guess.
Especially liked the delegations cheering after hearing a name of a dude from their state .. right before McCain finished his sentence .. “..who was killed in Iraq.”
Found myself saying “pleeease shut up” several times .. his rhythm hiccuped every time they started the loathed and mindless USA! USA! cheer .. the crowd chant equivalent to the chest bump.
All in all though he did well.
cgoode777 on September 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I can’t possibly keep up with the posts here. By the time I finish one page, the next page is loading. By the time I finish writing something to post, yet another page is loading.
Loxodonta on September 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Forensic medical terminology! Above my pay grade
clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Seven Percent Solution on September 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
McCain gave a good, solid speech on what he will do as president and what makes him different from Obama (without mentioning Obama very much). It was a real contrast. America now has a choice.
Video here:
http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/john-mccain-acceptance-speech-republican-national-convention-full-video-9408
bnelson44 on September 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
I love it when anti-war types like Dave boohoo using an anti-war artist to undermine the anti-war left.
Oh the irony!
Texas Gal on September 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Come to think of it, other than Dudley Dooright, I don’t think I could name a Canadian politician.
yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
The USA chant > the O-BA-MA chant
Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
heh.
BadgerHawk on September 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Don’t make me get the club, Karl.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
noooooo greta
anna on September 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Thats always my problem too…by the time i gather my thoughts the election will be over.
surrounded on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
That’s the price of thoughtful commentary! Now if one is a troll, the job is much easier!
Maquis on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
But he was from WWII wasn’t he? There haven’t been any interesting ones in 2 generations
clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
McCain’s poll numbers will crater as people learn about “Heart-gate.” We can only hope Dave doesn’t get this info out to dKos and TPM.
Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Greta LOVES Hillary.
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Shannon Tweed time.
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Tigh was Tigh….anyway sooner or later I am going to learn to sleep normally again.
I think in the end Barry ceded control of the narrative of ‘change” like that shrink in the headlines said earlier by being cornered into picking Joe Biden….
now there are two ways you can look at Joe….
1) Aunt Esther picked him by badmouthing HILLARY!
2) McCain picked him by taking the overall lack of enthusiasm in the Democratic party to be his sidekick and using Georgia to force him into a choice while he bodysurfed….
Neither one bodes well…and frankly by only calling out Bush and refusing to nail Nan and Dirty Harry he surrendered “change”….
they just left a huge potential opening for coattails.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
david gregory just said “education is a civil right” is carbon copy of something george bush said. what a douche.
anna on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Even David Gregory’s being level headed.
Did someone spike the kool aid?
yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
hmmmmm… Well, McCain’s speech was no Palin, but he finished strong and it should make for a good commercial, “Fight!”
El_Terrible on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
McCain has to get Independents if he is going to win. This is a big country, lots of people out there. You have to look like more than a partisan politician if you want to win. I think Obama was too confrontational in his speech.
Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
It explains so much doesn’t it.
Big Orange on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Rush and ROve? I’m up.
tehd on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
David Gregory: “McCain is using Bush themes used in 2000.” And is continuing to make the case for Obama. WOW…just WOW.
LOLOLOLOL
LordMaximus on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I agree.. The only line I remember from his speech is when he yelled “ENOUGH!”
El_Terrible on September 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I’m not a troll; I just type fast.
I think Treacher has his A material queued up on keyboard macros.
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
sources close to hotair call DRywall, Codename Gypsum…DeepShoat the most explosive mole in all blogging
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Obama was angry, while McCain swelled with pride, humility and dignity. A great contrast
clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
his rhythm hiccuped every time they started the loathed and mindless USA! USA! cheer
Loathed and mindless? Who loathes it and why mindless?
At the beginning the crowd was chanting to drown out the screaming Rywall-Pink protesters, after that it was just enthusiasm.
Loathed? Are you sure you’re in the right country?
Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Will someone hit that idiot on fox with a foam finger..geez
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I must have missed that part.
The last bit with Olbrmn and Gregory seemed rather civil. Bits of criticism, sure; but, not overtly over the top.
Maybe it’s the whiskey in me.
yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Instant reaction by my Obama-supporting husband (who thought Palin was a knockout last night):
Bad speech, great man. Bad news for Dems is that GOP is now united and Dems still aren’t despite all the happy talk in Denver.
Instant reaction by me: very reminiscent of George H.W. Bush’s speech in 1988. A lot of people did not have a great instant reaction than that speech either, especially coming on the heels of the last great Ronald Reagan speech. But it brilliantly told a story of who Bush was, where he came from, and where he wanted to take the country. And so did McCain’s tonight. I heard a lot of echoes of “I want a kinder and gentler nation,” and “I’m a quiet man, but I hear the quiet people others don’t.”
Oh, and Cindy McCain is one of the greatest
womenhuman beings on the planet. I am so glad they gave her her due tonight. I may vote for her to be First Lady as much as I will vote for him to be President.rockmom on September 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I got to tell you that call to fight at the end kind of got to me. I did not know the old boy had that in him. I felt a little tug, you know what I mean?
Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
ive only seen the last 3 pages or so of comments, but i take it the general consensus is that he is “no Palin’….its true, she was dynamite last night, but this speech was strong, sober, and most imnportantly, heartfelt, just the way it should have been.
i approve this message, go McCain/Palin!
surrounded on September 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Agreed.
surrounded on September 4, 2008 at 11:50 PM
YES!!
What a wonderful First Lady Cindy McCain will be!!!
Texas Gal on September 4, 2008 at 11:50 PM
that stand up and fight thing was quite awesome.
moron delegates waving into fox cameras in back of karl are annoying me.
anna on September 4, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Ok…let me in on it, what is “heart gate”?
Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Absolutely!
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I’m way late, but I’ll toss in my two cents and see what everyone thinks.
The speech was meant for America, not the crowd around him. I don’t think they realized that, hence the really awkward cheering in all the wrong spots. It was a bit rough, as he usually is with a teleprompter. I liked how civil he was towards Obama and never took a sigle jab at him. I think that will play well.
Policy was much more in depth than Obama’s speech, and I loved the part about education. I wish he’d talked about pork barrel spending more. It’s dynamite for him.
The end was moving to the point of me misting up, but I’ve been through SERE and have heard the secret briefings of what they did to some of those guys, so when I hear him speak I can’t help but visualize.
The final minute of the speech saved it. It was very authentic and real, and you could see his passion coming through as the crowd was cheering. The final minute made me like it.
BadgerHawk on September 4, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Well, I think trolls pretty much self-identify, but I surely didn’t have you in mind when I posted that! Some of these folks are pretty sharp though, n’est-ce pas? Me, I usually lurk and hit targets of opportunity, depends on whether I’m suffering from the vapors or not.
Maquis on September 4, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Is Heart a Canadian band or an American band?
The fate of the free world hangs on the answer.
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:51 PM
ROFLMAO!!!
Texas Gal on September 4, 2008 at 11:52 PM
At the very end Olberman reminded those watching that McCain gave an interview in US News & World Report after he came home and said that he did contemplate suicide and did sign some sort of statement (my ears exploded at that point so I missed the details).
I knew Olby would have to have the last word.
Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Great speech, the ending was fantastic with McCain’s call to duty over the cheers of the crowd was magic. Just cut that out and slap it on a commercial and run a couple of times every morning and afternoon. Independents, Reagan Democrats, welcome home!
Kevin71 on September 4, 2008 at 11:52 PM
+1
Spirit of 1776 on September 4, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Man, what that said to me was he thinks he can win this election and he really does intend to try to work with those two douchebags. Harry Reid is the one who is going to look like a horse’s ass if McCain wins, for saying he can’t stand him. Democrats are full of non-righteous anger, and angry campaigns never win.
rockmom on September 4, 2008 at 11:53 PM
No worries, I didn’t feel targeted…I just saw an opening for another comment. :)
sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Bishop…..times a wastin’
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I think Obama was trying to come off as firm and resolute but when you just spent the evening bashing America, you can only come off angry.
Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Olby the SWIFTBOATER!!!
surrounded on September 4, 2008 at 11:54 PM
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